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+ Show Spoiler [Speculation] +Well, my speculation on the matter is that I was originally targeted and the Bugs replaced in, so they changed the kill but not the RB because they obviously had some kind of blue read (lmao) on me or I wouldn't have been RB'd in the first place. Whether he was hit because he's a vet or because he was suspicious of Gambit means pretty much nothing to me at this point - my thought process is that scum saw Bugs enter the game and chose to kill him instead of me.
Similarly, I would consolidate on Zealos, so I'm feeling pretty good about this lynch if these are the competing wagons.
I'm reading the thread trying to put shit together, if anyone needs anything let me know.
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I'd like a zealos lynch more than gambit as well. Obviously I'd like to lynch into a vet like VE or kita even more but that's apparently not going to happen.
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we have 8? voters out of 28 players LOL
I'm fine with killing Zealos, it seems as if the arguments we're having indicate that they're either both scum or both so terrible that they shouldn't live anyway.
Zealos was saying he was going to be out till sometime through day 2 because of exams or something like that. I want to see what he says now that he's probably done with that stuff.
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On May 31 2012 05:09 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 05:08 Ange777 wrote:
I would prefer voting Gambit over Zealos. A Zealos lynch won't give us much info. If the possibility of him being mason is the only reason against it, I'd still vote for Gambit. Do you think Gambit's posts have been scummier? What information do you expect to glean from a Gambit lynch?
To be honest, I think both are at a same scummy level. Posting a big list with names and commenting on them seems like a nice way to fake a townvibe. They don't really address any follow up questions (especially Gambit with his two posts only). Wiggles quoted some people soft defending Gambit which could give us some information if we lynch Gambit. For a lack of a better lynch target I am willing to give a Gambit lynch a try.
I tried to look into some other cases but didn't find anything really convincing yet. I am a bit suspicious of supersoft though:
On May 30 2012 23:42 supersoft wrote:
You claimed before any PMs went out that told people they were hit. Scumteam know who they hit. obviously they dont have to wait for claims to know who was hit. WTF dude.
How could you know if PMs were out or not?
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On May 31 2012 05:21 marvellosity wrote:
P.S. - I want a good reason why people aren't voting Zealos. Why is Gambit a stronger lynch?
Why is Zealos a stronger lynch in your opinion?
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On May 31 2012 05:35 Ange777 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 05:21 marvellosity wrote:
P.S. - I want a good reason why people aren't voting Zealos. Why is Gambit a stronger lynch? Why is Zealos a stronger lynch in your opinion?
I've basically answered that in previous posts, check my filter
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On May 31 2012 05:42 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 05:35 Ange777 wrote:On May 31 2012 05:21 marvellosity wrote:
P.S. - I want a good reason why people aren't voting Zealos. Why is Gambit a stronger lynch? Why is Zealos a stronger lynch in your opinion? I've basically answered that in previous posts, check my filter
My bad, I immediately replied when I saw your post and must have skipped that one.
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Ok, I'm finally done, I can understand why people are voting for me, but I'm having a quick look over things and will try to post some thoughts.
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On May 28 2012 18:34 Zealos wrote:
I'd also like to note - I'm pretty lurky Day1 atm, I'm pretty busy, however, I'll have finished my last exam come midway through day2, and will become a lot more active then.
One reason why I don't want to go vote for him. I'd rather him be here to defend himself before putting a vote down.
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I don't like the fact that you have been afk all the time today when people suggested to lynch gambit, not doing a thing at all.
And now that you're an option as well you get in here telling people you're done and will have a look over things. What time is it in the UK right now? 22:00? :p
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On May 31 2012 05:18 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 05:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
^^
Now that we're in the consolidation phase marvel, do you REALLY have a problem with a Gambit lynch or were you just trying to get info from Bugs? I feel a lot more confident in a Zealos lynch. I read over like 4 of his previous games when I was looking at him in Magic and I think I have a handle on him. After I pointed it out how he started town/scum games in mafia, he's come in here trying really hard to make his first post look like 'townie' Zealos. Too hard. Then he hasn't followed it up with any substance. Only more weird and scummy posts. Town Zealos would be dishing out his reads, but he's cowering in fear hoping the topic of conversation would move on from him. I would consolidate on Gambit. His two posts are a bundle of nothingness disguised as somethingness. It's also possible that wbg was hit because he was suspicious of Gambit, but this doesn't have to be the case - could have just been hitting a vet. Anyway: ##Vote: Zealos
You say I'd be dishing out my reads, and yet the only other large mafia game I've played in I was scum. You have no point of comparison. If I'm honest, I'm really struggling to keep up with this thread at all, there's so much more to read than in the mini games :S
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On May 31 2012 06:00 Toadesstern wrote:
I don't like the fact that you have been afk all the time today when people suggested to lynch gambit, not doing a thing at all.
And now that you're an option as well you get in here telling people you're done and will have a look over things. What time is it in the UK right now? 22:00? :p
that was obviously directed at Zealos.
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catching up from pg. 51. looks like I missed a billion pages.
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OK! Now he can defend himself :3
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On May 31 2012 06:00 Zealos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 05:18 marvellosity wrote:On May 31 2012 05:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
^^
Now that we're in the consolidation phase marvel, do you REALLY have a problem with a Gambit lynch or were you just trying to get info from Bugs? I feel a lot more confident in a Zealos lynch. I read over like 4 of his previous games when I was looking at him in Magic and I think I have a handle on him. After I pointed it out how he started town/scum games in mafia, he's come in here trying really hard to make his first post look like 'townie' Zealos. Too hard. Then he hasn't followed it up with any substance. Only more weird and scummy posts. Town Zealos would be dishing out his reads, but he's cowering in fear hoping the topic of conversation would move on from him. I would consolidate on Gambit. His two posts are a bundle of nothingness disguised as somethingness. It's also possible that wbg was hit because he was suspicious of Gambit, but this doesn't have to be the case - could have just been hitting a vet. Anyway: ##Vote: Zealos You say I'd be dishing out my reads, and yet the only other large mafia game I've played in I was scum. You have no point of comparison. If I'm honest, I'm really struggling to keep up with this thread at all, there's so much more to read than in the mini games :S
The most notable point of comparison is Game of Thrones.
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wait, I'm up for lynch? :o
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Sorry, was gone for a bit.
Alright, hat off. Now that we've actually got mod-confirmation that the roles and alignments match up, I'm un-voting Toad (duh). As far as I see it, that's no longer an issue at all and the bits that Toad was secretive about can be confirmed by Gambit.
Assuming Gambit comes back and says he's a mason, I'm willing to accept his claim as well. The alternative is to think that he just happened to put "Mason Recruiter" without being one, and that's too farfetched. We could wait for confirmation from someone masoned with him, but the name of the role is good enough for me.
I don't think that MZ and Toad both being scum is more likely at this point. Willing to revisit this later if it's absolutely necessary, but that's too far out there.
And yes, Toad, I do realize you were forced to out another blue. But you'd already stated that you got a town read from Gambit, and his saying "Mason Recruiter" stood out if anyone read carefully. So, sorry if you think he wouldn't have been outed, but he became enough of a topic of discussion that I thought it would have come out anyway if that were the case.
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On May 31 2012 06:04 EchelonTee wrote:
wait, I'm up for lynch? :o
nope. Gambit or Zealos are up for a lynch.
And I could be wrong about the mason recruiter thing but that stood out and I thought about it because as mentioned I'm not a normal mason.
Now that everyone got on the recruiter part anyways:
The thing about my mason thing is that it's really not a mason like "you get to talk to this one guy". It's more like the gay-phone-session from AC.
That's why I said I'm secure against manipulation because I'm not just talking with one guy.
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I mean, we have 2 hours and ~1/3 the votes. It seems as though the last two hours are going to be fraught with hasty decisions and lots of screaming and yelling.
Anyone wanna sing Kumbaya with me before this whole thing goes south?
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Oo probulous replaced in. Someone claimed mason buddy to Gambit? This is TL L all over again -.-
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