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On May 04 2012 03:03 nreekay324 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 02:43 WhySoMuch wrote:
What I meant is to pretend that you are the angel that protected someone from getting killed, If you are the angel, you are now sure that whoever you protected is a town, therefore leave some sort of subtle clue on who you "protected". Okay, angel=medic, I get what you were saying now. But, isn't that kinda detrimental to the town if the angel/medic does that? I mean the best we gain is a confirmed townie through the clues. But if the mafia reads up on these clues, then they have an easy target (the medic). Also, if we, as a town, try to help cover it up by throwing out decoy clues, then doesn't that just muddy up everything and give the mafia a chance to throw out decoy clues that could be really misleading to us? Anyway, this could be arbitrary as there could be a veteran that took the hit.
Right they do, but the medic is going to be leaving a clue anyways, so it's the best that we can do.
And no it doesn't really muddy everything up, mafia can't really give clues that will mislead us because the only way the clues come in to play is if they are Night killed, and Mafia won't be night killed
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On May 04 2012 03:03 nreekay324 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 02:43 WhySoMuch wrote:
What I meant is to pretend that you are the angel that protected someone from getting killed, If you are the angel, you are now sure that whoever you protected is a town, therefore leave some sort of subtle clue on who you "protected". Okay, angel=medic, I get what you were saying now. But, isn't that kinda detrimental to the town if the angel/medic does that? I mean the best we gain is a confirmed townie through the clues. But if the mafia reads up on these clues, then they have an easy target (the medic). Also, if we, as a town, try to help cover it up by throwing out decoy clues, then doesn't that just muddy up everything and give the mafia a chance to throw out decoy clues that could be really misleading to us? Anyway, this could be arbitrary as there could be a veteran that took the hit.
This conversation is interesting, because after the day post I was quite close to suggesting that the medic claim.
Because barring a counter-claim, having 2 very likely townies is very useful for narrowing down the search.
In the end my plan was to ask the medic to claim right at the end of the next night - that way he still gets his actions in, can tell us what he's done, and as we'll have 1 less (probably 2 less after night) players, narrowing down the field is very helpful.
I hadn't actually realised Veteran was possible in this setup - probably Veteran shoud just be quiet and take the hits I guess.
Re: breadcrumbs/'subtle clues' - the point is that you shouldn't be able to find them easily by just reading posts, but once pointed out the pattern is clear.
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Mordanis - marv is fine. We should lynch him because he's scum and not worry about if he's getting mod-killed.
WSM - My evidence was both quantity and quality. "I don't need a fancy case" does NOT persuade the rest of town to vote along with you, and if you really think someone is scum, you should want town to vote with you.
I also don't put as much faith into this 'lie' as you put it.
My other half regularly goes to bed and reads twitter/other shit on his phone before he sleeps.
I don't like the idea of lynching someone for what may or may not be a 'lie' when my case brings recurring and hard evidence of golden's failure to scumhunt.
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Yes, I know, I go to bed and spend 30 min on my phone, but he said he couldn't change his vote. That is the whole part that makes this scummy. You can't follow along and then not be able to change his vote.
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On May 04 2012 03:15 WhySoMuch wrote:
Yes, I know, I go to bed and spend 30 min on my phone, but he said he couldn't change his vote. That is the whole part that makes this scummy. You can't follow along and then not be able to change his vote.
I obviously hadn't looked at your post clearly enough. I thought the lie was simply he went asleep but also followed the thread.
Right, it looks pretty bad.
At the very least he needs to respond to it, which he has not.
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On my phone so excuse brevity. Look at what I posted/quoted on Lazer.
Initially states he is out (not home) and following on mobile. Then, when making his case on why he was one of the ones who didnt vote Veriat, says he was home, and didnt follow it as he went to bed early.
This is a massive difference.
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On May 04 2012 03:46 Pure-SC2 wrote:
On my phone so excuse brevity. Look at what I posted/quoted on Lazer.
Initially states he is out (not home) and following on mobile. Then, when making his case on why he was one of the ones who didnt vote Veriat, says he was home, and didnt follow it as he went to bed early.
This is a massive difference.
Unless I'm mistaken, he didn't say he was home - he just said he went to bed early.
But yes, I do agree with you/WSM that it looks pretty nasty.
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On May 04 2012 03:04 Mordanis wrote:
Is Golden definitely out? I'm sort of worried that he's saying that he's just saying he's going to leave so we don't vote for him, and I'd love a host to explain what the situation is, just so we all know everything that's happening.
If golden is definitely out, I see no reason to lynch him. If he isn't out, then I'll have to read Marv's case closer and read through his filter myself.
can only assume that he PMed artanis about this, as i have recieved nothing. therefore, we will have to wait for artanis to give an answer as to whether or not he will be modkilled or replaced.
in the OP are rules regarding cheating, including getting yourself modkilled to benefit your team. just something dor everyone to note. Later there is playing for your win condition. do it.
if anyone needs to PM a host related to complaints in the game or modkills or having to leave, I would appreciate it if you would PM me as well, to avoid situations like this..
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I have been PMed about it and we're looking for a replacement. If none will be found, he will be modkilled after the lynch takes effect.
Apologies for not posting this earlier, I missed the question.
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Anyway, talking of someone with no content as of late: helloooooo Mordanis. *raises eyebrow suspiciously*
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SexDoll will be replacing O.Golden_ne. Everyone say hello!
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sup yo
gonna start reading
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Hi SexDoll. You're scum. Discuss
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if someone can gimme a sentence or so on how experienced the remaining players are i'd appreciate it
i play quite a bit on 2p2. im better as a villager than as a mafia
and so far i find it hard to differentiate who's saying what cus avatars are so small
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lol. this is gonna be good. I know sexdoll, he's sick as a villager.
But I'm pretty sure he just slipped 
SexyyyDoll, How'd you know to call the bad guys mafias, yet called all of us Villagers?
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btw the proper term is Mafia and Town. I have repeatedly been bashed for using Wolves/Villagers
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On April 27 2012 05:27 Lazermonkey wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 04:33 Jailbreaker wrote:
with all this nonsense talk about scheduals and lynch/no lynch, we're forgetting about the real issue here:
THERE'S MAFIA SCUM AMONG US.
I know it is day one, but does it have to be so passive? I don't want to vote for the wrong person based on three posts But yet your own post doesn't really contribute much at all. If you think not enough people are posting or that they are posting useless stuff, wouldn't it be better if you did some analysis yourself? I think everyone are conscious about that we have mafia among us and everyone would like to avoid dumb misslynches. You are stating the obvious here. Your post is even a bit counterproductive in that you discouraging people from making posts about lynch/no lynch. Afaik there isn't much else to talk about atm but please let us know if there is something. Talking about peoples opinions about lynching gives us a tell on their gameplan/motives etc. so I find nothing bad with it. I'm off to bed now. There is a chance that I will not be able to post to much untill 20:00 CEST tomorrow.
so reading through, I dislike this post from lazermonkey
he attacks known townsperson jailbreaker for trying to start some real discussions on the ppls roles instead of just talking about mechanics. he's not even discouraging the advice, he's just pointing out some perceived hypocrisy in his post. The problem with that is that his post is jailbreakers post is ACTUALLY helpful. It's most likely role neutral, but a townsperson is more likely to see the good with the bad. Mafia see the bad and ignore the good.
He also says "i think everyone are conscious..." which can be a mafia tell sometimes. The reasoning behind it is that his post looks over edited, and if I had to guess, I would say that he replaced "everyone" for "townspeople" and mafia would be more likely to remove that in fear they might get attacked for it in some way
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whysomuch, who are you on 2p2
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On April 27 2012 18:15 Pure-SC2 wrote:clipped- You think that it's suspicious that Yomi asks why voted for him after you didn't state a reason? What?! Show nested quote +I vote for Yomi because I feel like you are starting a bandwagon against whysomuch so early in the game
then he asks why i voted for him. I think that is suspicious. - On top of that you've tried to shut down valid discussion on no lynch, and have stated you don't care if we miss-lynch because collateral damage happens. I'm not sure about you. Seems too aggressive to be scummy, but something seems off.
I don't like the last sentence from Pure
can someone tell me a little bit about Pure's game?
If he's a good towny then the last sentence is scummy. He obviously sees the aggression of the dude he's quoting as towny but is reluctant to give the read. It almost reads angry, like he knows he can't get away with pushing him because he's clearing himself with aggression
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