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Pure-SC2
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1440 Posts
April 28 2012 19:00 GMT
#225
It does seem like an easy bandwagon forming on AcecAnoka which Lazer and Mordanis have jumped on without stating any reasoning other than lurking. So is this a lurker lynch then or do you think he's scum?

O.Golden_ne posted a good case against him which seems to have some merit, as has Splinter[eP].

That takes the count up to 4 on AcecAnoka I believe.
"Every time I visit community sites, I'm just embarrassed. There's so much witch hunting and name calling and arguing and gossip. Misogynist comments against women. It's just embarrassing." – Tasteless
Pure-SC2
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1440 Posts
April 28 2012 19:07 GMT
#228
So it seems the majority votes forming on Veriat and AcecAnoka.

Who actually has a solid scum read on either of them?

2 people have made reasonable cases against AcecAnoka after which he's been bandwagoned up to 4 votes.

On Veriant, The_Zen_Man has made a reasonable case against him while yomi's on him for lurking. Our werewolf loving friend has now bandwagoned on here with no reasoning other than "because Veriant looks extremely bad right now" taking it up to 3.

So the questions are, who looks scumier, AcecAnoka or Veriant? And if the answer is neither, or not conclusive, then who is pushing for their lynches and why?
"Every time I visit community sites, I'm just embarrassed. There's so much witch hunting and name calling and arguing and gossip. Misogynist comments against women. It's just embarrassing." – Tasteless
Pure-SC2
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1440 Posts
April 28 2012 19:12 GMT
#230
As I typed that, the werewolf bandwagon switched from Veriant to AcecAnoka, taked Veriant down to 2 and AcecAnoka up to 5.

WhySoMuch seems to like the bandwagon based of who's voting for AcecAnoka, not because he think's he's scum. Hmm.
"Every time I visit community sites, I'm just embarrassed. There's so much witch hunting and name calling and arguing and gossip. Misogynist comments against women. It's just embarrassing." – Tasteless
Pure-SC2
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1440 Posts
April 28 2012 19:16 GMT
#235
Artanis - I think the vote count was wrong. AcesAnoka unvoted Yomi and hasn't made a subsequent vote.
"Every time I visit community sites, I'm just embarrassed. There's so much witch hunting and name calling and arguing and gossip. Misogynist comments against women. It's just embarrassing." – Tasteless
Pure-SC2
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1440 Posts
April 28 2012 19:18 GMT
#237
In the space of 20 minutes, WhySoMuch has flipped votes 3 times. I'm getting more and more suspicious of this guy.
"Every time I visit community sites, I'm just embarrassed. There's so much witch hunting and name calling and arguing and gossip. Misogynist comments against women. It's just embarrassing." – Tasteless
Pure-SC2
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1440 Posts
April 28 2012 19:20 GMT
#238
I want to make sure I'm voting for a lynch on someone I believe is scum, or that there is a reason I believe is good enough. I'm not going to bandwagon onto a vote because thats what other people are doing, I'm going to do it for my own reasons.

There is still plenty of time left to vote and I'm busy looking at who's doing what and trying to understand why. Suggest you do the same.
"Every time I visit community sites, I'm just embarrassed. There's so much witch hunting and name calling and arguing and gossip. Misogynist comments against women. It's just embarrassing." – Tasteless
Pure-SC2
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1440 Posts
April 28 2012 19:23 GMT
#239
@Mordanis - if we lynch a townie, we score a hit for the mafia before they even have to make one themselves. Think about that for a moment.

Why are you voting for AcesAnoka?
"Every time I visit community sites, I'm just embarrassed. There's so much witch hunting and name calling and arguing and gossip. Misogynist comments against women. It's just embarrassing." – Tasteless
Pure-SC2
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1440 Posts
April 28 2012 19:38 GMT
#245
If it's down to AcecAnoka and Veriant, then I find Veriant most suspicious.

He has a weak case on The_Zen_Man which even after building on, doesn't really say anything to make me see what he is getting at. The basis of it is that The_Zen_Man is fishy, and was overly defensive. So in the back and forth between Veriant and The_Zen_Man, I get a stronger town read on The_Zen_Man and thought his case on Veriant had some good merit.

When I look at Veriant's filter I see these constant attempts to fit in with everyone else without really contributing. When he did finally contribute there was no substance, just feeding off other peoples posts. It's not looking good.

AcecAnoka looks suspicious, I'd have to agree with that. I haven't heard enough from him to push for a lynch unless we're lynching him for lurking, but at this stage as he doesn't have a vote he is liable to be mod killed.

I'm curious where Yomi is at and what he thinks of todays developments.

##vote: Veriat
"Every time I visit community sites, I'm just embarrassed. There's so much witch hunting and name calling and arguing and gossip. Misogynist comments against women. It's just embarrassing." – Tasteless
Pure-SC2
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1440 Posts
April 28 2012 19:40 GMT
#248
EBWOP:

##Vote: Veriat
"Every time I visit community sites, I'm just embarrassed. There's so much witch hunting and name calling and arguing and gossip. Misogynist comments against women. It's just embarrassing." – Tasteless
Pure-SC2
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1440 Posts
April 28 2012 19:43 GMT
#251
AcesAnoka doesn't have a vote right now - it wasn't reflected in the vote count
"Every time I visit community sites, I'm just embarrassed. There's so much witch hunting and name calling and arguing and gossip. Misogynist comments against women. It's just embarrassing." – Tasteless
Pure-SC2
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1440 Posts
April 28 2012 20:04 GMT
#255
@O.Golden_ne - I think that Veriat has been shown to be more suspicious that AcesAnoka in what has already been posted.

I'm not saying AcesAnoka doesn't look suspicious because he most certainly does, but Veriats filter plays out like someone trying hard to fit in with everyones views, has avoided posting anything original (until essentially forced into it), and when he did it was weak and lacking any substance. All of which I can see a scummy motivation behind.
"Every time I visit community sites, I'm just embarrassed. There's so much witch hunting and name calling and arguing and gossip. Misogynist comments against women. It's just embarrassing." – Tasteless
Pure-SC2
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1440 Posts
April 28 2012 22:58 GMT
#283
Well done town
"Every time I visit community sites, I'm just embarrassed. There's so much witch hunting and name calling and arguing and gossip. Misogynist comments against women. It's just embarrassing." – Tasteless
Pure-SC2
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1440 Posts
April 29 2012 21:46 GMT
#299
Top Scum reads:

nreekay324 - His filter reads suspicious to me. I see a vote for WhySoMuch, follwed by an unbolded unvote. He then leaves it at that. He makes no comment against the most suspicious person in the game so far, who was proven to be mafia. So he votes for WhySoMuch, and has FoS against Golden, Me, Yomi and The_Zen_Man (incidently all of which voted for Veriat). Very suspicious.

Jailbreaker - I've had an off read on him from the beginning. There isn't a lot there to analyse. However he does come in a few hours before the lynch deadline and posts in a sort of defense against AcesAnoka, saying we don't have enough info to point fingers at him. How does he feel about Veriat? Other than pointing him out in a post about Lurkers (which includes 6 others), he doesn't seem to have any scum read on him other than pointing out one of his posts sounds like a regurgitation on Golden's posts.


Other notes:

AcesAnoka - not sure about him, but do note that he doesn't have an opinion on Veriat until after he's flipped mafia. I get a novice townie feel here, but it is suspicious that he doesn't mention Veriat. Worth keeping an eye on.

WhySoMuch - flipped around a lot prior to the voting deadline. I don't like seeing this though in this instance not sure it means anything. If he was scum I don't think he'd state he was certain I was town, but then I didn't think Veriat would say he looked scummy before flipping mafia.

For what it's worth, Lazermonkey never had any posted suspicions on Veriat. Not saying this means anything, just noting for the record.
"Every time I visit community sites, I'm just embarrassed. There's so much witch hunting and name calling and arguing and gossip. Misogynist comments against women. It's just embarrassing." – Tasteless
Pure-SC2
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1440 Posts
April 30 2012 08:27 GMT
#311
Poor yomi

Although it's sad we lost yomi in the night, I think getting the successful lynch on day 1 is a huge plus for us, and means we can push to lynch any lurkers meaning everyone has to stay active during this day.

So lets stay active, and either identify who's lurking and/or who are the most suspicious people out there.

For starters, I want to here my top scum reads respond to my comments on them - thats means you nreekay324 and Jailbreaker.
"Every time I visit community sites, I'm just embarrassed. There's so much witch hunting and name calling and arguing and gossip. Misogynist comments against women. It's just embarrassing." – Tasteless
Pure-SC2
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1440 Posts
April 30 2012 08:58 GMT
#312
Why was yomi killed?

Mafia hit people for a reason. What was the reason behind yomi getting whacked? Well in the course of day 1, other than getting annoyed by WhySoMuch, he had genuine suspicions of two people, Veriat and nreekay324.

We know one of them was scum, and nreekay324 is my strongest scum read (refer to my night post just before the deadline). If you were the two remaining mafia, and you had seem yomi lead the lynch on one of your scum buddies, and he had found you suspicious, wouldn't that make him a good target?

Interesting points related to the hit on yomi:
- After the first day post, nreekay324 states "looks like my suspicions about yomi may have been wrong though..." - this is interesting in that if nreekay324 knows yomi is about to die and flip town it's a good way to clear himself from his earlier stated suspicions of yomi.
- People who found yomi suspicious: Jailbreaker, AcesAnoka, nreekay324
"Every time I visit community sites, I'm just embarrassed. There's so much witch hunting and name calling and arguing and gossip. Misogynist comments against women. It's just embarrassing." – Tasteless
Pure-SC2
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1440 Posts
April 30 2012 09:49 GMT
#314
@WhySoMuch - your case on Golden, well it's not a case at all. He responds to your voting on him and provides solid reasoning and defense, and your case is built around the fact that he had a solid scum read (which he posted a case around) and didn't want to flip off it the moment a bandwagon formed. Your voting behaviour in the lead up to the lynch is waaaay more suspicious than his.

You're tunneling him hard, and with no case to back it up its essentially cluttering up the thread.
"Every time I visit community sites, I'm just embarrassed. There's so much witch hunting and name calling and arguing and gossip. Misogynist comments against women. It's just embarrassing." – Tasteless
Pure-SC2
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1440 Posts
April 30 2012 22:07 GMT
#334
Good to hear from you nreekay324. Splinter, you need to provide us with some original analysis.

Marvellosity - welcome to the game. We're going to need you to go through everything as much as possible and give us your reads. I appreciate it's hard coming in late like this, and AcesAnoka has done you no favours in the things he has posted.

The_Zen_Man - I have 100% town certainty on you. I liked your case, and there is definitely some merit there, but there are also a few areas that do point WhySoMuch as town. I have a very mixed read on him and regardless of what his actual alignment is, I don't trust him or his posting style at all.

I'm going to go through the Jailbreaker files in more detail as I've had a scum read on him since very early on.

On top of that, it's really over to Splinter and Marvellosity to contribute.
"Every time I visit community sites, I'm just embarrassed. There's so much witch hunting and name calling and arguing and gossip. Misogynist comments against women. It's just embarrassing." – Tasteless
Pure-SC2
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1440 Posts
April 30 2012 22:42 GMT
#336
WhySoMuch - you don't speak for the town. So far at least 3 people have found your actions suspicious, so if you really are town you need to start thinking a bit more about how you're playing and what you're actually doing to help the town.
"Every time I visit community sites, I'm just embarrassed. There's so much witch hunting and name calling and arguing and gossip. Misogynist comments against women. It's just embarrassing." – Tasteless
Pure-SC2
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1440 Posts
May 01 2012 09:08 GMT
#363
On May 01 2012 12:03 marvellosity wrote:
To Pure: I see you posted two scumreads. Which would you prefer to lynch today and why?


Well, since my posting them, there have been some good developments (including your arrival) that have put more information out there for everyone.

As I posted yesterday, nreekay was my strongest read but he made a good post that seemed a marked improvement over his earlier posts. However, I hadn't seen it the way Mordanis had, who raised a really good point in that it seemed contrived. However, nreekay has since posted further and I think for the moment has lowered his scum rating in my eyes but will remain a person of suspicion for me.

Jailbreaker has moved to the top of my list and he is now receiving a lot of heat. What is his response to the cases against him? He's remained silent through it all further increasing suspicion. At this stage he would be my prime lynch candidate.

Splinter - well he's either uninterested town or lurky mafia. He's contributed nothing to this day and his last post was that he'll dump his thoughts when he gets home from work. Where is this post?

Marvellosity - I think you've done a good job so far, but I think Golden had a good point regarding your focus on WhySoMuch. So based on your filter reviews, who are your strongest scum reads and why?

WhySoMuch - he is causing so much confusion and distraction with the way he is posting. I actually have a neutral read on him but my plan is to just ignore him for now. He's either playing a very deep and layered deception play or has so many bad preconceived notions of what to look for that it's just not worth engaging in. He may need to be looked at closer depending on what happens over the day/night cycle.
"Every time I visit community sites, I'm just embarrassed. There's so much witch hunting and name calling and arguing and gossip. Misogynist comments against women. It's just embarrassing." – Tasteless
Pure-SC2
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1440 Posts
May 01 2012 09:40 GMT
#366
It is interesting that nreekay voted for Jailbreaker and didn't provide any of his own reasoning why. Soft bandwagoning.
"Every time I visit community sites, I'm just embarrassed. There's so much witch hunting and name calling and arguing and gossip. Misogynist comments against women. It's just embarrassing." – Tasteless
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