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On April 24 2012 21:26 iGrok wrote: I will be requesting a ban for LIII. So I wouldn't /in if I were you. I'm under the impression that this game is open to anyone, as opposed to following the banlist: On April 22 2012 03:20 Kurumi wrote: Signups: This game is open to anyone. Signups will remain open until 30 spots are filled. | ||
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On April 24 2012 21:29 iGrok wrote: If a TL Mafia doesn't follow the ban list, I'll, as you so elegantly put it in LIII, eat my hat. Fair enough. In that case, I am /out until such time as I hear that this game does not follow the ban list. | ||
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In any case, I'm /in until I'm /out, so to speak. | ||
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Kurumi, feeling overwhelmed, reaches once more for the trusty trout that always lays on the desk. Enormous in both length and weight, this trout is kept perpetually wet and floppy by the unending tears of Kurumi's poor, abused townies. It all began with the best of intentions. This was probably how it was for the Spanish Inquisition, or the McCarthy hearings, or the Waterboarders. It was about stamping out the worst elements of society. Kurumi needed emergency powers for the emergency job. But soon, soon the powers became more than just a means, but an end in and off themselves. Soon Kurumi began seeking to trout-slap more and more. In time, it became not the last resort, but the best option, the only option. This was once merely the price of justice. Now, it's something else. The changes came slowly at first. Most didn't notice them, or didn't care, and accepted them. And who could blame them? They chose a comfortable life. We traded lack of trout-slappings for security, but soon found ourselves with neither. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/xuBMB.png) EDIT: I didn't mean to give you ridiculously long arms, but I drew the trout, then I drew both stick figure heads, and I kinda just had to make it fit from there. btw that thing in the middle is a trout in case that's not clear. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/xNaE8.png) >.> | ||
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+ Show Spoiler [Dramatic interpretation of dudes /outing] + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/JS5MM.png) | ||
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On May 02 2012 23:40 Bluelightz wrote: Omg im so jelly you play CK2 T_T. Better accept my friend offer :p Dude CK2 is an utter time destroyer. I'll be like "oh hey ok I'm just gonna quickly take over this county before I grab lunch" and suddenly the sun is setting and I'm the King of Ireland. Unfortunately my steam is having some sort of horrible issue right now since there's an update and it's not downloading it. I think I may need to do this from home, which will be in a few hours. I'm comfortable with any deadline, as long as it works with you guys and isn't between 0200 and 0700 PST. | ||
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I find both 21:00 GMT (+00:00) ( the current deadline) and 23:00 GMT (+00:00) (JW's proposed deadline) to be acceptable. | ||
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A thousand curses upon you for recommending it to me! All my free time is dead! Dead I say! | ||
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1) Rainbow + Show Spoiler [my D1 picture] + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Db5bh.png) 2) Voting blubbdavid I think it should be pretty clear here that blubb is scum. "well why would he be scum blzinghand" you ask? Well it's as SA pointed out: On May 03 2012 07:00 Kenpachi wrote: Hi. Kenpachi Townie best player On May 03 2012 07:07 blubbdavid wrote: Kenpachi, are you blue role?? Now, as we all are keenly aware at the moment, VTs are BLU this game. This is a fact that anyone could find out by reading the OP, but it could be easily missed, right? Well, we've got a couple possibilities here: 1) BD has scumslipped; as a RED player, he didn't know there were only BLUs and REDs. 2) BD has blueslipped; as a BLU player and a PR, he didn't know there were only BLUs and REDs 3) BD didn't read his role PM and is actually a BLU VT However, it seems to me that anyone who's town aligned would be keenly aware of their color. They'd be reading the OP for possible setups (since this is semi-open), and trying to formulate some plans. The fact that the fluff for VT is "depressed soldier" only reinforces this for me. This isn't something you'd miss, especially after another person claims BLU VT in the thread. I also think that as a power role, blubbdavid would be more careful about keeping his head down, so to speak, so this isn't him PR-slipping For these reasons, he merits a vote in my opinion. I find blubbdavid's extremely limited play to be scummy. ##vote: blubbdavid In any case, /confirm. Let's get this party started. | ||
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Is that your whole contribution to the thread? Please, so overwhelming! Stop contributing so much! I am being sarcastic because this sentence alone that is vaguely, VAGUELY criticizering SA is far less than he has done all game for town. | ||
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On May 03 2012 08:04 johnnywup wrote: Yeah, but my point is in most games blue=power role. Asking if someones blue, to me, meant asking if he just claimed a power role. It would be strange if someone came into a game without this flavor saying "I'm a townie", would it not? Indeed, if someone came in and said that in another game, I'd be quite confused. However, if I were a town player in a game where the name my role was BLU Depressed Soldier, I would not be confused at all. That's the point SA and I are making. | ||
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On May 03 2012 08:14 blubbdavid wrote: Btw, I sense some kind of BlazingKenpachi party. Didn't work out so great in Aperture Mafia. On May 03 2012 08:11 Katina wrote: Game just started honey. You are so quick to run to his defense... You're still not contributing, and being indirect. You're scum. ##unvote ##vote: Katina come at me bro | ||
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On May 03 2012 08:11 blubbdavid wrote: The confusing thing is that in a sense vanilla townies are also blue roles, just without power. I wanted to ask Ken whether he had a powerrole or not.The funny thing is that I already have two votes on me, and Mr Blazinghand has made quite an effort to miscredit me so that I can't recover till the end of the day. Oh well. ORRRR you could try to be helpful D1. I've heard good things! This is the quickest exoneration. People of all stripes scumslip, and if you make an honest attempt to scumhunt and help out, the town will assuredly spare you. Giving up is not the answer unless you're VE. | ||
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On May 03 2012 08:16 johnnywup wrote: from what ive played with katina (just 1 game but still), katinas always like that Then katina will have to pick up his play or he'll get lynched. | ||
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On May 03 2012 08:32 Katina wrote: Not contributing? The game started a couple hours ago.... There hasn't been time. Indirect? Last I checked I was pretty direct with SA. I would like to disagree in the strongest terms possible. This is not a statement of any value to the town. He is pretty quick to be calling people scum... and? Is he therefore scum? Is he town? Are you just making a bland observation or is there something more? Or are you waffling, because you're scum? Are you hiding behind a masterful web of an underpunctuated passive-aggressive sentence? | ||
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On May 03 2012 08:34 Blazinghand wrote: I would like to disagree in the strongest terms possible. This is not a statement of any value to the town. He is pretty quick to be calling people scum... and? Is he therefore scum? Is he town? Are you just making a bland observation or is there something more? Or are you waffling, because you're scum? Are you hiding behind a masterful web of an underpunctuated passive-aggressive sentence? EBWQOP: The answer to the final three questions are "yes, yes, yes" by the way. This is how you be direct: You, katina, are scum, for your indirect and unhelpful posts. | ||
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On May 03 2012 08:37 Katina wrote: O.o I think you are grabbing at air here. It's suspicious that he was quick to throw suspicion and blame. Mafia like to shift people's attention onto a person. That's all I was getting at. On May 03 2012 08:39 Katina wrote: Mr. Blazinghand I say this once and once only. I'm not mafia. Point your Blazinghand at someone who actually deserves it. If you're innocent you have nothing to be afraid of. On May 03 2012 08:50 marvellosity wrote: O hai Blazinghand. Are we going to spread our suspicions around this game or tunnel another townie until he cries? (note: I did not cry. Probably.) People are making too much out of blubbdavid, poor guy said one thing and everyone is interrogating him already. If he's innocent he has nothing to be afraid of. On May 03 2012 08:44 Mementoss wrote: Sup? Im not dealing with this shit this game. ##Vote: Kenpachi ##Vote: BillMurrary Either will do I do not like policy lynches. I understand that KP and BM can be somewhat illegible, but policy lynches have a pretty good rate of hitting town players, especially since it's easy for scum to hop onto them. I'm sure if these guys are bad enough to policy lynch, they'll turn out to be bad enough to lynch regularly. I am against policy lynch of KP and BM. | ||
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On May 03 2012 08:59 Kenpachi wrote: 2bad. you are stuck with it, just how i have been for 30 games Just cause I don't want to policy lynch you doesn't mean I won't lynch you if you play like scum. Policy lynches just have an annoying habit of hitting town players. | ||
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Scum. ##unvote ##vote: grush57 | ||
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On May 03 2012 10:18 grush57 wrote: Alright awesome we know the aggressive people now. ##unvote Katina Not a satisfactory explanation. Not even close. | ||
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What is your explanation for your Katina vote? | ||
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On May 03 2012 10:27 Blazinghand wrote: What is your explanation for your Katina vote? Besides, "bad" and "scummy", I mean-- that much is already clear. | ||
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On May 04 2012 06:05 Kenpachi wrote: hey man nice tunnel vision you got there hes clearly manly enough to speak what he wants to say. It took him like a day and several votes for it to happen. Still scum imo | ||
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On May 04 2012 05:05 Katina wrote: I like that. BH throws around empty accusations and you jump right on board with this. Looks like a case of something called "Sheeping" Don't worry, it's curable! BM has been not been his usual posting self lately. He likes to lurk when he is Mafia. He made a few brief posts early on then disappeared into La La land. So that is something to keep an eye on. I don't like the whole idea of all the vote switching that has been going on here. It's not helpful to the town and brings nothing but confusion and chaos to everyone else. I know it's only day one but at least try to have more than one sentence before getting voting happy. Sounds like you're butthurt you got pressured and looked scummy. If you don't like the fact that I'm willing to bust out my big guns early, it's probably because you're a scared scum player. I use all the tools at my disposal to hunt scum, and given that the tools I have are my voice and my vote, I'd be foolish to ignore one of them. What I did here, what I do every D1, is pro-town. If you can't deal with that, vote yourself and get out of my game. | ||
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On May 04 2012 04:15 grush57 wrote: I would vote you blubbdavid, but I have enough people witchhunting me now.(And I didn't even rage on ladder how unlucky am I?) Though, I could just filter and quote everything and that would get the job done. ??? Why not vote him or make a case? What the dicks is this? Oh I know what it is, it's you being scum. ##still totes voting: grush57 Anyone who reads his filter will see he is A) bandwagoning, B) bad and C) making excuses and PRETENDING to make cases and pressure while not actually doing so. | ||
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On May 04 2012 06:37 froggynoddy wrote: This thread is mental... BH I agree with your vote on grush, tell me would you rather a Grush or Katina day 1 lynch? what do you think of everyone having a go at Palmar? It seems really odd to me. He has not been posting content, but neither ha he been causing as much chaos as about a half dozen people here. Wouldn't it be nice for scum to get town to lynch Palmar... (assuming he himself is not scum of course) I don't like katina's play either. Not his soft defense of grush, nor his scummy play before. He's scummy, but grush is scummier imo. From grush, the naked vote, then the unexplained unvote, indicate to me that he's scum. it APPEARS to me that he couldn't think of an explanation for his actions that was town, so he stalled and conferred with his buddies in the scum QT. THEN, his weird, weird, "attack" on blubbdavid that doesn't include a case or a vote shows he's trying to appear like he's in the game, even though he's not. Regarding Palmar, I'm going to give him a little more breathing room D1. In my experience, here's how he typically acts. Palmar is normally a very aggressive and direct townie. He is not afraid to share his reads, to call people out, and to use his vote to pressure. He tunnels, and he is happy to call out bad play when he sees it. However, this is not the Palmar that we have in this game. He takes a little bit of time to get started. For example, take this post: On May 04 2012 02:17 Palmar wrote: layabout we need a detailed map of the current situation, start working on it right now. It's a post that doesn't help, it's a post that contains no solid reads. This is characteristic of his posts so far this game. In his preceding posts, he has still yet to provide us with any scum reads, or to even pressure anyone. All he gives us is a couple questions and bland statements. That being said, we'll have a better idea of how helpful Palmar is being by the end of D1. He could be a valuable asset to town if he isn't scum and I'm therefore not comfortable lynching him D1. | ||
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On May 04 2012 07:08 grush57 wrote: Being sarcastic was my last ditch attempt of saving the town from a 1st day blue lynch. I like how "being helpful" or "posting reads and cases" wasn't in there anywhere. Claiming blue is meaningless, it's what scum would do in your situation. | ||
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Nice OMGUS. Still waiting for a case or any analysis or anything useful out of you. | ||
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You have a couple of options here: 1) be helpful 2) keep whining choose wisely | ||
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On May 03 2012 14:09 Nova_Terra wrote: Hihi, just got up, had like 5 pages to go through already I cant help but think grush57s move was too dumb for a scum to make. Unless theres some day 1 bus plan going on. Also blubbs "slip" doesnt mean anything. Crappy thinking on grush57's play. "too dumb for a scum" isn't a real argument... But let's really think about what this post is. This post is Nova_Terra saying "I have no scumreads, and I'm gonna vaguely defend the guys being talked about presently but not actually be helpful" On May 03 2012 23:06 Nova_Terra wrote: No, it makes sense, but it isnt a pardon, i agree. Im null on him, not finding him townie because of him being too dumb. And mafia are much more careful than town. Sinensis calls out Nova_Terra, but he's like "oh i'm just null on him hedge hedge hedge" and he hedges. More nullreads, still no scumreads. This is probably the closest Nova_Terra comes to a scumread in all his posts. But it's not even a case, and he's not seriously questioning sinensis. If he really thought G403's point was valid, wouldn't he be pressing the issue? If, and I quote, "his point is still completely valid", why doesn't NT vote Sin, or even do anything at all? He just drops this one-liner that doesn't even pressure him and bails. Bails like a scum. ##FOS: NT | ||
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On May 04 2012 08:03 grush57 wrote: Alright, how am I supposed to defend myself without you guys just blatantly trusting me? Even if I say Palmar is mafia because blah blah blah his posts suck, that shouldn't make me a town automatically, and like I said the last couple of pages has just been about my show, how am I supposed to analyze anything? None of you guys are(Well I guess besides me) So Blazinghand, if you were in my position how would I be helpful? Still not making any cases. You just spent several sentences here being a whiner instead of going and being helpful. Stop wasting my time and yours, scum. | ||
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On May 04 2012 08:13 grush57 wrote: Alright thanks for deflecting the question, you don't know either. Still not making any cases. Still whining. Still scum. | ||
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2) PM what do you think of my thoughts on NT? You too Panda On May 04 2012 08:07 Blazinghand wrote: In other news: Nova_Terra is probably scum. Let's take a look at his filter so far: Crappy thinking on grush57's play. "too dumb for a scum" isn't a real argument... But let's really think about what this post is. This post is Nova_Terra saying "I have no scumreads, and I'm gonna vaguely defend the guys being talked about presently but not actually be helpful" Sinensis calls out Nova_Terra, but he's like "oh i'm just null on him hedge hedge hedge" and he hedges. More nullreads, still no scumreads. This is probably the closest Nova_Terra comes to a scumread in all his posts. But it's not even a case, and he's not seriously questioning sinensis. If he really thought G403's point was valid, wouldn't he be pressing the issue? If, and I quote, "his point is still completely valid", why doesn't NT vote Sin, or even do anything at all? He just drops this one-liner that doesn't even pressure him and bails. Bails like a scum. ##FOS: NT | ||
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On May 04 2012 14:43 Nova_Terra wrote: seeing as you suggested that that is a tactic, it is safe to assume that many town players do this and therefore it is a scum tactic. And so too dumb/bad to be scum is a completely valid argument. I've been here on TL Mafia for about half a year. I've played in nearly a dozen games of Mafia. I argue a lot on the internet in general. You might say I've seen a lot of arguments. I mention this to be absolutely unambigous when I say: this is some of the worst logic I have ever encountered. I suggested it's a scum tactic. That scum use. Too dumb to be scum isn't a valid argument, and the FACT that I say it isn't a valid argument can't MAKE it a valid argument. I don't even know how to interact with you after a phrase like that. On May 04 2012 14:43 Nova_Terra wrote: Also dont summarise my content incorrectly. I never said anything about having no scumreads, just none worthy of noting yet. That's the same thing. Not posting scumreads = not having scumreads. The town benefits from conversation. You were not helping. On May 04 2012 14:43 Nova_Terra wrote: Blazinghand, why would you choose me as likely to be scum instead of sinensis, for instance? Sinensis doesnt contribute, but you seem to want to defend him. This is a fair question. Allow me to explain: sinensis made this post:+ Show Spoiler + On May 03 2012 12:46 Sinensis wrote: What the hell are you talking about? If you're having a hard time digesting my first post I can try chewing it for you? How about this: I am voting grush because he refuses, yes refuses, to explain why he is doing anything he is doing. All he does is vote, unvote, apologize. That's all I expect scum to do. You are number 2 on my suspicion list Mr. papapanda. I hope you have a good rest. In this post he calls out Panda, explains his vote on grush, and says panda is a scumread of his. In this singular post he does more than you have done all game. This doesn't mean Sinensis is necessarily town. But he contributed a butt ton more than you did. On May 04 2012 14:46 Nova_Terra wrote: i resent the fact that many of the players here are well known and have much more sway because of it. I dont even feel like posting when someone will just as easily do something else and get followed. And also there are other reasons for not posting much other than being scum. Right now i think it would be correct to be shooting into the lurker crowd. I don't care WHAT your reason is for not posting much. I don't care if you're butthurt, or if you're too busy having dinner made for you by your mom. It doesn't matter, it's not relevant. What *is* relevant is this game. To win this game, we need to talk. You haven't been talking. You still haven't posted a legit scumread. Currently your most aggressive pressure on sinensis is: Im just keeping sinensis at the back of my mind. Are you serious? You think that's helping? That a phrase like THAT will pressure him into responding to allegations? That's so waffly, so utterly useless, so inconceivably deprived of utility, that I can't even say you've done anything this game. Anything at all. Scum. | ||
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On May 05 2012 06:20 Palmar wrote: ##Vote Bill Murray Palmar where are you at? what's with this ninja vote | ||
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On May 05 2012 06:44 Kurumi wrote: Day 1 Katina -2 DoYouHas slOosh Nova_Terra 2 Mementoss Kenpachi Mementoss 2 Eiii Nova_Terra blubbdavid: 0 Katina: 0 grush57: 3 Blazinghand Sinensis froggynoddy Sinensis: 1 ghost_403 Palmar: 0 BillMurray 10 PaqMan layabout johnnywup grush57 marvellosity SomethingAwesome papapanda Palmar layabout BlackRaven blubbdavid sinani206: 1 slOosh l10f might not be in here, he will be saved because he pmed me 9he has finals) Day 1 ends at 22:00 GMT (+00:00), ~15 minutes from this post | ||
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Bill Murray typically plays this shitty so I don't really know what to say. I'm in capable of reading the man-- in that sense, he is a good D1 lynch just because illegible players are worst at lylo. ##unvote ##vote: Nova_Terra | ||
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##unvote ##vote: Palmar | ||
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Modkills: 2-1 Don't worry guys Kurumi's got us covered | ||
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Currently it's 19-3. Starting tomorrow it'll be: 17-3 - 15-3 - 13-3 - 11-3 - 9-3 - 7-3 - 5-3 + 4-2 + 3-1 + 2-1 So assuming we ONLY mislynch until LYLO, then we only properly lynch, scum has no extra KP, and town has no vigis or saves, we have 6 mislynches left to catch the 3 scum. If we catch a scum player though their KP drops to 1 earlier. | ||
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Here's my crumb: On May 06 2012 03:27 Blazinghand wrote: Man this situation just makes me want to eat my own heart Type "eat heart of" into google search (but don't hit enter) and it'll suggest "eat heart of palm" Palm -> Palmar, my target. | ||
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On May 06 2012 06:46 Mementoss wrote: Also 3rd KP could be mafia vig. At least we haven't lost any power roles yet. There are no mafia Vigis-- and a pyro wouldn't be able to kill someone until N2. | ||
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On May 06 2012 07:34 Mementoss wrote: EBWOP: This is the second time, I've had to ask/force somewhat of a scum read out of you Marvellosity. You'd think you'd want to contribute to the discussion, and actually provide them without being provoked? You'd be surprised how much effort it takes to get a town-aligned Marvellosity to contribute. | ||
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On May 06 2012 16:14 l10f wrote: Blazinghand is confirmed now with his shot? I'd like to think so. There are only 3 mafia alive and no hatters flipped, which means the 3rd kill had to come from a town vigi. As the saying goes, though, "nobody is ever confirmed"-- but I doubt scum would be foolish enough to counterclaim. A 1-1 trade would be awesome for us in the current situation. | ||
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Ghost_403 is scum and should be lynched. This is my case on him. It is brief, like his posting history. In any case, Ghost_403 is lurking and should be lynched. I'm gonna quote his entire filter here for you guys: + Show Spoiler + On May 04 2012 00:00 ghost_403 wrote: Well, now, let's see what's going on in this thread! /confrim On May 04 2012 00:20 ghost_403 wrote: Sinesis rolled scum. This post screams "I want to look useful to the town without actually thinking about what's going on." Good Day 1 lynch. ##vote sinesis That is ghost's entire filter. It is two posts. Let me contextualize the sinensis vote for you: nobody was pushing a sinensis wagon-- Ghost was the only guy to vote sinensis. He posted this very brief description, then peaced. hard. If we talk a look at Sinensis' actual case against grush and his vote on grush, it's a pretty blatant sheep of my bold, suave, sexy case on grush. The kind of thing that deserves to be pressured. In fact, if Ghost had followed this up, tipped his hand, been aggressive and generated discussion, his vote on Sinensis here would have been totes normal. I'd commend him for it. But that's not what he did. He peaced. I won't fault Ghost for being silent all night long. Lots of people are quiet at night. But his utter lack of contributions to the thread, and his unwillingness to keep up the pressure on Sinensis is telling. In fact, Sinensis actually responded to Ghost's case a few hours later: On May 04 2012 05:16 Sinensis wrote: Looks like some random dude voted me because my post screams "I want to look useful to the town without actually thinking about what's going on. [sic]" I like how he mimics the post he has a problem with by explaining himself with the same mock style I use. I don't care about his snap vote at all, let him be useless for all I care. grush57 did it occur to you that if you are innocent, you don't need to apologize when you explain why you were doing what you were doing? Being apologetic usually means someone has something to be apologetic about, if you know what I mean. I also don't know where you get off thinking your posts are funny; they're not. This is kinda a sloppy defense. He brings up a good point, though! Ghost is doing what he accuses Sinensis of doing. If Ghost were town, he'd read this and be like "yo dude i'm pressuring you. Explain yourself about grush! bleargh bleargh" etc. But ghost is scum so he lurked. Now, ghost is gonna come back to this thread at some point. He's going to tell us how he was busy, how his cat was on fire, or his grandmother needed a bath, or whatever, and that he was legitimately busy. This statement will be meaningless. Don't let his excuses fool you. Don't pay attention to what he says, but rather, what he does, and what he has done. What he has done is lurked, and lurked hard. He pretended to pressure Sinensis, and thereby dodged any wagons entirely. In fact, if you think about it, this ties in really well with a "grush is legitimately a noob townie who BH was kinda tunneling too hard D1" theory. Imagine the grush57 wagon rolled across the line, and he flipped town! At the time that Ghost voted, there were no votes on Palmar or BM. grush was clearly cracking under the pressure and dealing with it pretty poorly. If grush got lynched and flipped town, Ghost could be positioned to push a Sinensis lynch D2 or at least get some town cred for calling out some sheeping. It seems clear to me that Ghost is intentionally lurking, and trying to earn easy town cred for his scum tactics. Ghost_403 is scum. Let's lynch him like the scum he is. ##vote: ghost_403 come at me bro | ||
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On May 06 2012 19:08 blubbdavid wrote: Blazinghand, may I ask you why you didn't vig ghost instead of Palm? To be honest ghost wasn't on my radar D and N1. Palmar, on the other hand, was playing like he did in Purgatory Mafia. I explicitly defended him D1: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=331187¤tpage=18#345 + Show Spoiler + On May 04 2012 06:46 Blazinghand wrote: I don't like katina's play either. Not his soft defense of grush, nor his scummy play before. He's scummy, but grush is scummier imo. From grush, the naked vote, then the unexplained unvote, indicate to me that he's scum. it APPEARS to me that he couldn't think of an explanation for his actions that was town, so he stalled and conferred with his buddies in the scum QT. THEN, his weird, weird, "attack" on blubbdavid that doesn't include a case or a vote shows he's trying to appear like he's in the game, even though he's not. Regarding Palmar, I'm going to give him a little more breathing room D1. In my experience, here's how he typically acts. Palmar is normally a very aggressive and direct townie. He is not afraid to share his reads, to call people out, and to use his vote to pressure. He tunnels, and he is happy to call out bad play when he sees it. However, this is not the Palmar that we have in this game. He takes a little bit of time to get started. For example, take this post: It's a post that doesn't help, it's a post that contains no solid reads. This is characteristic of his posts so far this game. In his preceding posts, he has still yet to provide us with any scum reads, or to even pressure anyone. All he gives us is a couple questions and bland statements. That being said, we'll have a better idea of how helpful Palmar is being by the end of D1. He could be a valuable asset to town if he isn't scum and I'm therefore not comfortable lynching him D1. On the basis that I wanted to give him "more breathing room". However, by the end of D1 (and partway through N1, when I sent in my action), it was clear that the pro-town, aggressive and helpful Palmar was not present. This Palmar seemed a LOT more like Palmar from Purgatory Mafia or Palmar from Resistance I, who was more quiet, reserved, and lurk-ey-- a scum player. So I shot him. | ||
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On May 06 2012 19:09 Sinensis wrote: BlazingHand you're brillant right and anyone who so happens to agree with you may as well be sheeping you, right? What are your expert veteran pro reads on layabout? Why thank you! I am indeed brilliant. 9 out of 10 previous friends of mine concur. However, sheeping has nothing to do with whether or not you agree with me and everything to do with WHY and HOW you agree with me. After all, l10f voted Ghost_403 before I did. Am I sheeping him? Obviously not-- I'm not doing it to gain town cred, since I'm confirmed town, and I'm not trying to hide in the shadow of another player's case-- I daresay my case against Ghost is substantially better in terms of scope and sexiness than l10f's case on Ghost. If I had just said "yeah l10f sounds about right, I'm gonna vote Ghost to try to blend in" then that would be sheeping. If I'm considered confirmed town, think about it-- I have the LEAST information in the game. I don't know anyone's alignment. You, on the other hand, know your alignment AND have a strong idea of what mine is. The idea that my reads are somehow better because I'm definitely false is wrong. My reads won't be intentionally misleading, but they could be wrong because I'm wrong. However, I'm not wrong about ghost; I'm right. He needs to be lynched. I will examine layabout's filter and cases against him presently. | ||
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A) Blazinghand is sexy B) Blazinghand is brilliant C) Blazinghand is smooth like buttah Of course, there's some overlap between these. Some people, like Bluelightz, mostly focus on the "sexy" aspect of me (oh how he focussed!) but he was also attracted to my smooth suaveness. Really, I'm a multifaceted guy. I seem to recall VE was more interested in my stirring intellect-- it "stirred" certain parts of VE if you know what I mean (his brain). So when you call me brilliant I gladly accept your compliments. Regarding layabout: 1) he explicitly argues against policy lynches, then votes for BM and explicitly states that it is a policy lynch. 2) he hard-defends katina's play, then when she flips scum, claims he didn't 3) BM flips town 4) he states "we should kill Palmar tomorrow" and I shoot Palmar, who flips town. In summary. layabout has attacked town and defended scum all game. Furthermore, aside from his policy case against BM, he hasn't actually done ANY analysis or made ANY real cases. In fact... In fact, let's take a look at this: On May 06 2012 00:55 layabout wrote: we should kill Palmar tomorrow What the dicks is this? Well, it's an unsupported attack on Palmar. Where's his explanation? Well, it's 9 hours later, AFTER daybreak: On May 06 2012 09:23 layabout wrote: @Mementoss i thought we should lynch Palmar over "any other lurker" because he showed basically no interest in the lynch at all. Palmar is lazy as scum but when he town he usually bothers to do ... "stuff". This is actually the reason I shot Palmar-- he wasn't acting like the typical active town Palmar. But why doesn't layabout write this right away? It seems to me that a TOWN layabout would try to explain himself before daybreak... after all, he'd be worried about being shot, right? See, this is what happened: layabout wanted to set up for a Palmar push D2. Palmar was acting weird for a town Palmar, and Layabout wanted to capitalize that by getting him lynched D2 based on Meta. This is scummy. In fact, this is scummy enough that we should lynch layabout. If you think about it, the modkill of Katina and me shooting Palmar were BOTH things that layabout couldn't have predicted. He was planning, and his plans were disrupted, laying bare his scumminess. I'll get a reload from the town engineer who hopefully picked ammo and I'll shoot Ghost tonight. for now. I'll ##unvote ##vote layabout Thanks for bringing this to my attention. As an aside, Ghost, don't think you're in the clear. I'd love the opportunity to go potty all over your filter, but it's only 2 posts so far. Post more! | ||
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On May 06 2012 19:50 blubbdavid wrote: I see, Blazinghand is switching cases so it looks like he doesn't sheep l10f. you wanna mess | ||
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On May 07 2012 03:00 layabout wrote: BH is also criticising me for saying that we should kill the player that he decided to shoot. False. I am criticizing you for saying we should kill Palmar, and not posting a case against him until 9 hours, after daybreak. Did you actually read my case? On May 07 2012 03:00 layabout wrote: have i missed anything? Yes, my criticism is based on HOW you did what you did, not what you did. Is it really typical layabout play to make a 1-sentence accusation halfway through the night then not follow up with a case until after daybreak? Cause I had some respect for your town play... | ||
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KP hasn't posted in 24 hours. Eiiii hasn't posted in 24 hours. PPanda hasn't posted in over 36 hours. Froggy hasn't posted in over 48 hours. NT hasn't posted in nearly 24 hours. I mention this because it's literally impossible all 6 of you are scum. AT LEAST 3 of you are town players who are actively hurting town. OW OW OW OW stop hurting town stop it stop omg why aren't you posting | ||
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On May 07 2012 03:50 layabout wrote: Yesterday, between the hours of (UK time) 5pm and 1 am i was otherwise engaged.+ Show Spoiler + the FA cup final was on Now try think of a way to write that without it sounding lame. "we should kill Palmar because he isn't contributing. Palmar is normally a very aggressive and direct townie. He is not afraid to share his reads, to call people out, and to use his vote to pressure. He tunnels, and he is happy to call out bad play when he sees it. However, this is not the Palmar that we have in this game. " | ||
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On May 07 2012 03:53 Mementoss wrote: Only one who gave excuse was froggy for stag weekend. He should be arriving back in thread soon though. Even if froggy is legitimate, though, we still have AT LEAST 2 town players who are actively hurting town | ||
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On May 07 2012 04:37 Nova_Terra wrote: Next, Kenpachi Absolutely worthless, if you consider his connection case useful i dunno what to say Vote: Kenpachi This is not acceptable. Not even close. You might have slipped past my D1 but not any more. Now you die like scum. ##unvote ##vote: Nova_Terra Defend yourself or die like a punk | ||
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On May 07 2012 05:02 johnnywup wrote: Paqman Marv BH and Mementoss are all saying the same thing at approximately the same time? weird, maybe you just agree with one another and want to quote it as if you found it yourself? O_o Would you rather I not explain myself? | ||
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On May 07 2012 05:05 marvellosity wrote: Instead of posting useless shit like this, why not devote your time to filters and a case like you promised? He might be trying to be intentionally unhelpful | ||
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One a scale of Bill_Murray to 10 how serious are you right now? This isn't helping you, or the town. | ||
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On May 07 2012 05:25 Nova_Terra wrote: Scumslip, like scum means that you know im not scum and therefore you are scum Seriously though, i know. its impossible to defend myself though, as the biggest case seems to be that im lurking and not contributing. I havent had the time to post in the way i normally would or even make a filter based case. .... so you're not gonna rectify that and post a case? | ||
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On May 07 2012 05:30 Nova_Terra wrote: you do realize that it takes a lot of time to make a decent case Spend it. Do it. It's your obligation as a player, if you are indeed town aligned. | ||
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On May 07 2012 10:11 johnnywup wrote: Yeah, I'm watching. I guess you could say I'm not playing, or lurking, or whatever. But what I said is the truth. I'm a townie and I've just been super into a game. Anyways I'll make it up to you guys by playing much more from now on. Assuming you are town, take a moment to contemplate how your actions appear. Prolongued silence is just a terrible idea, not just for your own survival, but that of the town. If you're readying the thread and gather ideas, some of those should be shared. If you are somehow not intentionally derping us up here, consider that we need every head we can get to finger the scum, to mix our metaphors. | ||
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On May 07 2012 11:13 PaqMan wrote: I don't like how big of a train that has started on NT, which is why I've taken my vote off. On May 07 2012 13:19 PaqMan wrote: Just found out that I'm probably going to miss the lynch. I guess it doesn't bother anyone how fast a wagon formed on NT? I don't feel comfortable putting my vote back onto him. That's not sufficient reason to unvote, typically. What if NT is legitimately playing like some horribly scummy game? | ||
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On May 07 2012 13:38 Nova_Terra wrote: what would my motivation be to play this awful/scummy? isnt it more likely that im unable to be here more than i am currently? Surely you understand why I cannot possibly ever accept an argument like this? | ||
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On May 07 2012 13:41 Nova_Terra wrote: Yes BH, but seriously what could my motivation be? You're trying to hide and I called you out. Seems pretty obvious... | ||
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On May 07 2012 13:51 Nova_Terra wrote: Because you're kenpachi isnt an excuse. And if you dont die today, im just gonna start defending myself with Because im Nova_Terra. That's basically what you're doing already... | ||
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On May 07 2012 13:53 Nova_Terra wrote: rofl, i mean how im called out and i cant/am not trying to(your thoughts) remedy the situation and instead ask for a pass by this does not make sense from a scum point of view Yeah it does! You realize your actions are indefensible so you make some dirty, dirty appeal to IRL and asking for a pass. I'm not a teacher, I don't give out hall passes, you gotta earn them yourself by being useful. And you're not. ##unvote ##vote: Nova_Terra | ||
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On May 07 2012 14:16 Nova_Terra wrote: Lol what... I'm not dumb. I wouldn't make inexcusable actions if I was scum. And I would legitimately defend myself. I don't see any reason a scum wouldnt defend himself instead of asking to not be killed That's not a legitimate argument. After all, if you really think scum wouldn't do that... wouldn't you do that as scum and make this argument? Being useless can never be defended, only mitigated by being useful going forwards. | ||
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On May 07 2012 14:33 Nova_Terra wrote: No, as scum I would try my hardest to never get into this situation ...as you should also as town, right? Getting lynched should be pretty low on your priority list regardless. It's not like somehow town players WANT to get lynched more. This is bad logic and you should stop using it. It's just making me look sexy | ||
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On May 07 2012 23:35 Nova_Terra wrote: Finished my exam, will sleep for a while then try to be useful :D This sort of summarizes our general Nova_Terra problem. it's the end of D2, we're 120 hours into the game, and this is the best he can do. He's clearly scum just trying to stall and look noobie to avoid getting lynched. I'm not moving my vote off him. | ||
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On May 08 2012 04:29 SomethingAwesome wrote: BH, eat your hat if NT is town? -Mattchew An often-raised question is "what happens to the supposedly eaten hats of Blazinghand?" Well I will have you know that I do indeed eat hats when I am wrong. However, I have never been wrong in a hat-eating scenario. For context, I typically push someone who is obvious scum then make a statement like this: "If N_T flips town I will literally eat my hat. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Hqgo2.png) "This represents the maximum possible sureness I can present-- hat-eatingly sure. I am not QUITE that sure on N_T. I'd be willing to threaten eating a smaller vestment, such as a glove or sock, but eating a hat is hard work. So, I will not at this moment threaten hat-eating. | ||
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On May 08 2012 06:00 papapanda wrote: Also, highly dislike Eiii's last vote switch(not cause it is on layabout!:p). If blubb is scum, I think he is worth looking into, jumping boat last second. Bad logic. If blubb was scum, his scummate wouldn't do a last-minute voteswitch that doesn't save him-- he'd stay on the wagon. | ||
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On May 07 2012 23:35 Nova_Terra wrote: Finished my exam, will sleep for a while then try to be useful :D His chief defense for his actions is: On May 07 2012 14:33 Nova_Terra wrote: No, as scum I would try my hardest to never get into this situation This is entirely unacceptable. Scummy. N_T needs to die or get shot. Ghost_403 is also suspicious IMO for all the reasons he was suspicious during D2. I think Sinensis hasn't been posting a huge amount, but most of what I've read is stuff I agree with. I wouldn't lynch him yet. I find FroggyNoddy's responses to my interactions with Katina and Grush D1 to be odd. Check it. After I pressure Katina: On May 03 2012 09:23 froggynoddy wrote: Hah I missed Day 1 Blazinghand play ^_^. Seriously though, I doubt blubb's colour mishap is indicative of alignment. For the same reason a townie knows he is blue, I'd assume the same can be said if he were red. Its just indicative of not reading the blurb properly, as either town or scum. I don't like Katina though, attacking someone like BH who we all know plays ridiculously aggressive day 1, with little to know evidence, when BH is at least trying to reason out his suspicions. ##FOS Katina After I pressure Grush: On May 04 2012 06:37 froggynoddy wrote: This thread is mental... BH I agree with your vote on grush, tell me would you rather a Grush or Katina day 1 lynch? what do you think of everyone having a go at Palmar? It seems really odd to me. He has not been posting content, but neither ha he been causing as much chaos as about a half dozen people here. Wouldn't it be nice for scum to get town to lynch Palmar... (assuming he himself is not scum of course) On May 04 2012 06:38 froggynoddy wrote: EBWOP: ##Vote Grush If you take a look at the case he makes on Katina, it's actually stronger than the one he makes on Grush, yet oddly he only FoSes Katina while he actually votes Grush. Katina, as we know, flipped scum. He proceeded to push KP D1, then D2 blatantly sheeped the BD lynch only because On May 07 2012 23:33 froggynoddy wrote: 2. Though I am not 100% convinced about people's (laya and mem) defence of Kenpachi, It doesn't seem likely I am gonna convince anyone so I will try and find other people I think are most likely to be scum. This is a pretty weak attack. Froggynoddy hasn't been posting much or doing a lot of pushing of cases on his own, or pressuring other players. Maybe he's just a weak-willed townie. Maybe he's scum. I'd keep an eye on him going into D3. | ||
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My theory is that the average mafia player just randomly selects the phrase "day post" or "night post" in place of the correct one and has a 50% chance of using either regardless of which one should be used. | ||
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Layabout is scum. Eii's argument with Layabout seems fake. It's also literally the only thing he's done all game. l10f has been posting very little, but is doing a lot with his posts. No read here, just an observation. | ||
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##vote: Nova_Terra Let's get it right this time guys | ||
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On May 09 2012 06:23 papapanda wrote: Interesting to note that all players that have died have been non-power roles. Yeah, I'm thinking that the remaining 2 mafia players are either both power role mafia or there simply are no power role mafia. It also seems that the town has a pretty small number of power roles, or mafia has been profoundly unlucky in shooting them. I'm unsurprised that our lynches have all been VTs, just because a power role guy who was gonna get lynched would claim. I imagine any power role town player would remain active enough to not get modkilled just cause it's fun to use powers at night. | ||
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On May 09 2012 06:32 Nova_Terra wrote: I'll post some analysis after classes tomorrow, but i do want to note how i had an accurate read on kenpachi and left my vote on him. there was no reason at that point in time to bus kenpachi, had i been scum. Oh, another promise of some analysis in the distance future by N_T. I'm so moved. | ||
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On May 09 2012 06:33 grush57 wrote: Whats with the modkills over night? On May 09 2012 06:01 Kurumi wrote: I will think about all modkills from this game in the postgame. Leave this alone please. | ||
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On May 09 2012 06:33 PaqMan wrote: I just got home. I'll look more into NT but I really want people to read the case against layabout and tell me what they think of him. Fair enough. I'll look into the case against layabout. Having read it once, I think he's scum, but I'll form a more coherent opinion and post it. | ||
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On May 09 2012 06:35 Nova_Terra wrote: im glad now tell me what my motivation for bussing kenpachi at that point is in your mind Cause he was bussing you... at the time it appeared you were going to be lynched, so KP bussed you and you counter-bussed him. EZ. In fact, your case against him is a straight-up OMGUS: On May 07 2012 04:37 Nova_Terra wrote: Next, Kenpachi Absolutely worthless, if you consider his connection case useful i dunno what to say Vote: Kenpachi A case like this is easy to abandon if neither of you flip (it's surrounded by other posts that aren't about KP) but if either he OR you flips you can point to this and say "hey look he's scum and i'm town" In any case, classic bus. Scum always busses. | ||
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On May 09 2012 06:36 Nova_Terra wrote: And im starting to like the layabout case, especially when you add the recent results of day/night posts What about the recent results supports the layabout case? please elaborate. | ||
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On May 09 2012 06:37 Nova_Terra wrote: Obviously, scum has to have a motivation behind doing things. that move doesnt make sense from a scum point of view, unless bh thinks of it differently, and therefore i am asking Busses and distancing always make sense as scum... if scum just ignored each other or always voted as one block they'd be outed pretty quickly. Scum tend to soft-defend each other to prevent mild pressure and will make shitty attacks on each other to lay the groundwork for gaining town cred later by pointing at the previous shitty attacks. Like you are, right now. Scum. | ||
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On May 09 2012 06:46 Nova_Terra wrote: how is my vote on kenpachi an omgus thats a filter check which saw nothing of use. and connection cases are terrible and please, i at least think my scum play is not so dumb that i would get myself bussed by an ally then start a vote against said ally with no xontent with the purpose of getting him lynched KP calls you scum: + Show Spoiler + On May 05 2012 06:50 Nova_Terra wrote: Oh wonderful, a connection case. Nothing quite like totally breaking the window of nice town atmosphere. This doesnt make any sense. he thinks im not mafia but then suddenly does because people dont immediately vote me and instead make a different target. And suddenly those people are mafia too. wtf you said you thought i was townie until these people thought i was townie. You respond to it kinda noncomittally, mostly with a "WTF". Then: On May 05 2012 06:52 Nova_Terra wrote: Can we plz kill kenpachi soon Then: On May 07 2012 04:37 Nova_Terra wrote: Next, Kenpachi Absolutely worthless, if you consider his connection case useful i dunno what to say Vote: Kenpachi As you can see, this is a low-effort counter-bus. N_T doesn't post a case, making it an OMGUS to KP's bus. N_T answer my layabout question please. | ||
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On May 09 2012 06:49 marvellosity wrote: Don't try to use Kenpachi's mod-kill as an excuse - he was never at any real risk of being lynched, and if he was still present it would have just been a nice little bussing move. To the bold: instead we're supposed to believe you're so negligent as townie that you promise content after you sleep, but then you decide to try to defer it yet another day? Yeah, I mean the big thing, NT, is you didn't expect KP to wake up dead. I'd already used my shot and the odds of a second vig was fairly low. You and KP bussing each other was a long term plan for one of you to get town cred. | ||
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On May 09 2012 06:38 Blazinghand wrote: What about the recent results supports the layabout case? please elaborate. N_T I'm still waiting for a response on this. | ||
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On May 09 2012 06:56 Nova_Terra wrote: If i was mafia and saw that kind of case against me, i would laugh because its ridiculous im getting to that You know, if that's your only response.. then you are in fact laughing at it because its ridiculous, as you said you would do if you were mafia. Don't think you can convince me you're just a bad town player by using terrible logic! I know you're smarter than this! | ||
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On May 09 2012 07:03 Nova_Terra wrote: 1. Layabout goes hard on townie Bill Murray, who then is lynched 2. Layabout goes on Townie Blubbdavid who is then lynched 3. Layabout defends Mafia kenpachi, who dies to kurumis fist of modkillery this shows outcomes that makes layabout seem more scummy Ah, that's interesting, May 9th Nova_Terra! However, I have another player here who disagrees with you. His name is May 7th Nova_Terra! You should argue with him: On May 07 2012 05:29 Nova_Terra wrote: I dont think that layabout is scum, as 1. i really doubt that scum would push for a town lynch so hard and defend a scum mate who wasnt even active, which scum would know | ||
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On May 09 2012 06:32 Nova_Terra wrote: I'll post some analysis after classes tomorrow If nothing else, at least make an effort to conform to this promise. At present the sum of your contributions to the thread would sour ripened grapes, bruise peaches and curdle milk. | ||
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On May 10 2012 01:19 Mementoss wrote: Sure, but only because you are so sexy. I just had a dream about you but I won't tell you the details. Do you still think Nova is the best lynch for the day? What are your recent thoughts on laya? Recent thoughts on marv? Do you have any reads outside the popular candidates? Do you still think that paq is town? Any possibility of a paqman/Nova scum team? Im at school. Just typed the first Q's that came to my head. Going out tonight and working on report. Will try to post before I head out to the pub after school. Well, that's kinda weird. I'm not into long distance things... but we can talk about that after the game. Okay though I'll answer your questions. 1) Nova best lynch, Laya okay, Marv acting like he did as town in LIII 2) Froggy is scummy 3) Yes, Yes On May 10 2012 01:19 marvellosity wrote: Well, we seem to have, out of 12 players, 6 lurkers by my count. Amidst our NT/layabout discussions, they're getting a free ride. Have any particularly roused your suspicions? yeah froggynoddy | ||
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Having examined grush's filter and finding 0 pro-town posting, I am willing to vote grush instead of N_T, but only if there's no chance of getting N_T lynched. Is anyone else around? | ||
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On May 11 2012 05:33 Mementoss wrote: I highly doubt the chance of a bus at 10-2 unless its between two highly scrutinized players, ala NT and layabout, but they aren't pushing each others lynches for most of the day. They would require like 5 mislynches to win and town still hasn't lost any power roles yet. (if there even is any) That's true. A bus would be pretty expensive for scum at this point. It's profoundly unlikely that grush and layabout are both scum. I think if we do have power roles, they are very vanilla. Given the number of VT flips, besides me we probably have like a DT or maybe a DT and a Medic or something. It's also worth noting all the scum flips are vanilla-- scum may not have any PRs. | ||
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On May 11 2012 05:34 marvellosity wrote: Yes, I'm around. To the bolded bit - doesn't this imply you'd be happy with a layabout lynch at the moment ? Yeah I'm chill with all 3 of these guys being lynched, they all like scummy as hell to me. Of the 3 of them, N_T is the scummiest and I would prefer to lynch him. I'd like to consolidate onto 2 wagons because that generates more info than a 3-wagon vote. | ||
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On May 11 2012 06:29 papapanda wrote: I thought you thought N_T was scum. Ugh, have to rethink my suspicion list again... However with what I had so far, next in line is grush. The beautiful magic of it is that between N_T and Grush one is probably town. | ||
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On May 11 2012 08:56 grush57 wrote: Yeah man I got no idea who is mafia, probably the lurkers If I were you, I'd put a little more effort into scumhunting than that. | ||
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On May 11 2012 13:53 l10f wrote: Here's a 100% objective view of the situation. 1 is most likely scum 11 is most likely town. 1. Eiii 2. marvellosity 3. grush57 4. papapanda 5. PaqMan 6. Nova_Terra 7. Sinensis 8. l10f 9. Mementoss 10. froggynoddy 11. Blazinghand Let's just lynch in this order and win? Right now we're 9-2, right? 8-2 after scum shoots. If we mislynch and scum shoots again, we're 6-2, then if we mislynch and scum shoots again, we're at 4-2, which is MYLO. Assuming there aren't any more vigis (which I believe is fair; any vigis would have shot N1 or N2), and we don't get any medic saves, we have 2 mislynches before MYLO. Also, assuming scum start by shooting the towniest players (though they'll probably spare me in hopes of hitting a medic or DT, or because they're worried I'm Medicced) and not making things easy on us, here's what your list says: "I think we should lynch Eiii, Marv, then Grush. If none of those guys are scum, we lose" well, let's say one of those 3 is scum. then you're saying "I think we should lynch Eiii, marv, Grush, then Panda. If only one or if none of those gus are scum, we lose. I'm not even gonna consider the scumminess of N_T" As a final note, you have definitely pointed out several players you think are townier than yourself, tipping your hand to the scumteam. Why not just mention your 3-4 biggest scumreads? like "hey guys I know we're all up on grush but there weren't significant wagons on Eiii or marv and I think those guys are scum" Like, this was possibly the worst way to share your reads with the town. | ||
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On May 11 2012 19:14 marvellosity wrote: Come on man, you're better than this? Aren't you?! If N_T is scum and we follow that proposal he auto-wins. | ||
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On May 12 2012 01:35 l10f wrote: The mafia is winning. We haven't had a single good lynch and I'm sure they've led the mislynches we had so far. We've had no sign of DT or medic. We still don't have a single solid scumread on anyone. If we keep arguing about if its A or B, the scumteam will just tip the balance towards their victory every day. We as town need to consolidate our vote so 2 votes won't affect anything. So whatever we do, effectively it'll just be a list of scummy people and lynching #1 on that list. I made it easier for us and made one in a completely town point of view. If you think my list sucks, then tell me what we should do, because obviously we're not doing things right. Dude, it's been like 2 nights so far. Chances are the DT or Tracker has like 2 results both of which are "not scum" and maybe 1 or more of which is someone who got modkilled. Like, if I were a DT I know that N2 I would have checked Kenpachi. Just because we haven't heard a DT or Medic roleclaim doesn't mean they're not out there trying to do good work. Don't go fishing for claims. And your list is dumb. Just talk about your top scumreads. If your list legitimately doesn't work if the top 2 aren't at least one scum, why ar eyou even posting the list... just talk about those two .). <--- unicorn head | ||
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On May 12 2012 07:13 Nova_Terra wrote: Cases and posts against Eiii are at least convincing enough to warrant his vote. Therefore, i would like to see how he flips for info. On May 12 2012 20:31 Nova_Terra wrote: for info as in if Eiii is town l10f is probably scum and vice versa. sorry for no clarification Please specify the cases and posts, and write your own reasoning regarding those. this is literally the first time in your filter you mention Eiii. I want you to write WHY you think his scum. As an aside: How on god's green earth are you still alive? Bless the name of Kurumi for granting me a bullet, but curse him for granting me only one! ##vote: Nova_Terra | ||
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On May 13 2012 05:27 papapanda wrote: As of now, my vote would be either for Nova_Terra or Grush57. // Overall, both still come across to me as nooby-townies, but I am leaning towards lynching N_T "for information" to see Kenpachi's move. So you want to vote for N_T or Grush57 both of whom... strike you as town? By what unbelievable compromise of mental acuity could you possibly think voting for a town player is a good move today? Let me break it down for you: our goal is to lynch scum. I don't give a dick what "info" lynching someone will give us if he flips town. I personally believe N_T is scum, but the fact that you're willing to vote him and also claim he's town is utterly preposterous. I literally can't imagine why you would do this unless you are scum. ##unvote ##vote: papapanda | ||
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Grush Eiii Marv (21) Stop hurting town. ow. ow. stop it. ow. | ||
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##vote nt | ||
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If both he and NT are town I will literally eat zelblade's hat | ||
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Or just keep whining like the scum you are. Your call brometheus | ||
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Doctor: they wont want to shoot me until were close to lylo. Consider saving someone else since tmr isnt lylo If you think ur gonna die and we wont find ur crumbs claim just before daybreak. Dont claim now though. Any other thoughts on blue actions? Tmr we are one day from mylo | ||
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On May 14 2012 09:24 l10f wrote: Since marv hates grush so much, I doubt they're both scum. It's probably Eiii + one of the two for scum team. I don't think we have a DT on our team, and probably not a medic either. You have really no way of qualifying that second sentence. A tracker or DT could easily have shitty results due to flips and modkills, and isn't ready to claim yet. Granted, there have been several NKs none of which have been medicced, but it's also totes possible that N1 the medic just whiffed or medicced someone who was modkilled, and N2 or N3 he could have been mediccing me, a confirmed town player, whereas scum was shooting to hit blues rather than townies. I once played as a Doctor and didn't save anyone all game due to being roleblocked. We know there are still 2 scum alive, and one of them doesn't have to send in the NK. he could be a roleblocker. In my eyes, the fact that so many of the flips so far are VTs only drastically increases the chance that the remaining players in the game are power roles. | ||
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Grush NT PPanda Eiii Eiii was inactive for 24+ hours leading up to May 7 0343 forum time PPanda was inactive for 36+ hours leading up to May 7 0343 forum time. NT was inactive for 24 hours leading up to May 7 0343 forum time. Grush was inactive for 24+ hours leading up to May 10 0401 forum time. Eiii was inactive for 24+ hours leading up to May 13 0602 forum time Grush was inactive for 24+ hours leading up to May 13 0602 forum time Now, I understand we all got things to do. Hell, I was inactive for decent periods of time when I had my exams going. However, of the 4 of you, NT and Grush both contributed to town mislynches. Eiii was NKed since he picked up the pace later in the game, and PPanda, you were in such a bad position you had to fakeclaim blue as a townie in order to not get lynched. I could have done more to save the town while I was alive. I SHOULD have done more. But I believe we could have worked to exonnerate ourselves, as townies, better this game, ladies and gentlemen. Please don't lurk. It lets scum lurk. Froggy got away with lurking and I put SOME pressure on him, but imagine if he was the only lurker? He would have had to play more aggressively. He was smart and played passively because he COULD. because we let him. We can do better, town. We must. EDIT: I'd just like to note that you guys didn't break any rules or anything with your lurking, but you were inactive and we really really needed to not be inactive this game. | ||
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Let's take it easy, this is a teachable moment. Grush, how would you characterize your own play this game? | ||
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On May 20 2012 08:00 grush57 wrote: Didn't matter if I played terribly, there were other 20 townies who failed too. Besides I have mystical powers. It does matter if you played terribly, because if everyone had that attitude they'd never improve. I repeat my question: how would you characterize your play this game? | ||
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Like, I'm not sure you're aware of this but you got lynched at LYLO and scum basically kept you alive because they knew this would happen. The "other players played poorly" is not an excuse to play poorly. EDIT: In any case, I'm glad you're aware of the shortcomings in your play (as I am aware of the shortcomings in mine) and I hope that, going forwards, we can both strive to be better players. | ||
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On May 20 2012 08:13 Mementoss wrote: any scum QT btw this is the scum QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/Sqzc4yrZmhWB | ||
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