TL Mafia LIV - Page 3

On May 07 2012 17:49 Sinensis wrote:
I'm going to flip a coin. Heads is layabout, tails is NT:
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Looks like it's Nova_Terra
##vote: Nova_Terra

On May 07 2012 14:05 DoYouHas wrote:
Part 1

I suppose I should start with far and away the scummiest of blubbdavid's posts and then tack on all the extras after to seal the deal.

1. This is awkwardly phrased considering SA had just said that he thinks blubb is scum.

2. Daring SA to try and lynch you? Where is this coming from? For someone who has played the "my bad, don't hold it against me" card as well as a "I give up" defense this is extremely out of character and scummy. Not only that, he states his read that SA is scum because SA doesn't want to vote for him yet which immediately makes his next statement absurd.

3. This is the part that really got me wanting to lynch blubb. Let us think about this ridiculous scenario that blubb has put forth between SA and layabout. Supposedly at this point blubb believes both SA and layabout to be scum, or at the very least highly suspicious. So in what world does it make sense that one scum(SA) is going to 'buddy' ANOTHER SCUM(laya), another scum who just happens to be under a fair bit of scrutiny atm. Even forgetting the scrutiny part it doesn't make sense. In blubb's attempt to defend against SA's claim that blubb seemed to know people's roles he slips again and gives us this buddying scenario. The only way that it can possibly make sense is if blubb KNOWS that layabout is town.

4. Didn't sheep the vote of layabout, true, but then there is this:
For someone who has been fixated on attacking others (mainly layabout) for pushing a BM lynch you were awful ready to jump on the train to secure the lynch.

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Part 2


Seriously, obtaining information is more important than lynching scum D1 according to blubb. This is the reasoning he uses to say that BM was a bad lynch. This is just so incredibly wrong from a town POV. Lynch a lurker scum d1 you get all the info of the people fighting/pushing the lynch + the chance to get rid of a scum power + YOU JUST KILLED SCUM, CMON.



blubb quotes JW's good post on laya's behavior and then does what? Reinforce a point(s) he liked? no. Expand or provide further analysis? no. What we get is this statement, "It took scum by surprise that Kat was modkilled." What purpose does this serve? This statement isn't, "I also think it took scum by surprise that Kat was modkilled." or "If it took scum by surprise that Kat was modkilled then...". I think that the lack of relevance paired with the certainty on something that shouldn't have been able to go past speculation makes this likely to be a scumslip.

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Part 3

Inconsistencies and WIFOM:


blubb calls out Katina which normally would mean that blubb would have taken note of Katina's past posts as well as be waiting for a response to this call out. Then we get this:

This is after I made my case and slOosh had switched his vote. A consistent blubb would already have been up to date on Katina and this comment would have been either been accepting, refuting, or critiquing my case instead of playing at being ignorant.

WIFOM:

There are a few more examples of each I could pull for this section, but I feel like I would just be diluting my argument.

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TLDR: blubbdavid is scum, scumming scum

##Vote: blubbdavid

On May 08 2012 04:13 marvellosity wrote:


Hmm, my reads had them the other way round in that regard

On May 08 2012 04:15 SomethingAwesome wrote:

my reads side with grush

(i speak for me and dirk)

-mattchew

On May 08 2012 04:22 blubbdavid wrote:
So game continues I am pushing against layabout, then there comes the mind reading affair:
I am talking about how some actions of layabout make him less scummy. And what does SA do, who has buddied up with layabout? [1] Accuses me of being scum because I seem to know too much. Instead of being relieved that I, blubbdavid, one of the few who were pushing his buddy layabout, he accuses me of being scum instead. [2]Come, no one accuses someone as scum when said scum is reconsidering his tunneling. Except when you are a bad townie (SA) who is reading too much into the wrong person and too little into the right one.

But why do I think that SA is town? Because that guy is seriously convinced that I am scum. If he was scum, he would be pushing much more discreet, and that's where we land at layabout, who is abusing his naive townbuddy in pushing me hard.

On May 08 2012 04:54 blubbdavid wrote:

[1]semantics. don't get lost in semantics.
[2]nope, never reconsidered it, because his voting behaviour is not the only aspect of him. my suspicion on him is the sum of his posting, voting behaviour, general behaviour etc. You yourself have raised some very well points against layabout. But your suspicions against him somehow vanished miraculously.

Come, no one accuses someone as scum when said scum is reconsidering his tunneling

On May 08 2012 05:39 Eiii wrote:
Hmmmm. blubbdavid's convinced me, I'm gonna switch my vote over to him.

On May 08 2012 05:51 papapanda wrote:
Ugh. Didn't feel like I received a satisfactory reply from layabout, but it doesn't look like he is getting lynched today.