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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
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Cephiro
Finland1934 Posts
On April 05 2012 03:34 layabout wrote: Why on earth has Bluelightz received more PoP's than syllo? Might slightly have to do with my plan, as if hopefully we will go through with it, then it would be pointless to PoP syllo. Also, why on earth do you come back to the thread with such a post and not contributing more? Would you please confirm your claim of having no PoP by trying to push me in the thread? | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
Also we need your opinion quickly. Please read up :p I'm currently in favor of pushing Cephiro and pulling Bluelightz/BM. | ||
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Tobon
United States372 Posts
On April 05 2012 03:34 layabout wrote: Why on earth has Bluelightz received more PoP's than syllo? Because of this: On April 04 2012 00:55 layabout wrote: Bluelightz if you actually use that power we should lynch you. | ||
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Cephiro
Finland1934 Posts
On April 05 2012 03:37 wherebugsgo wrote: He chose to use his role. Also we need your opinion quickly. Please read up :p I'm currently in favor of pushing Cephiro and pulling Bluelightz/BM. Yeah but he claimed to have no PoP at all when I asked him about if he has no PoP due to using a power or such yesterday. And even if he did that yesterday, he should have PoP today then, unless he has a power that neglects his PoP for the whole game. You seem fairly sure that he is of no danger to town though, am I right if I say that you have a rolecheck on him or are you just speculating? | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18074 Posts
On April 05 2012 03:15 Cephiro wrote: @ Acro: I am not OMGUSing, you are just claiming that I am. I have provided fair reasoning for every single one of my suspects except you so far, and I am going to provide that analysis on you as well. Fair enough. I was extrapolating from the lack of a case on me. I will go over your filter again (better) later. I remember your analysis before today being pretty good, but it got lost in the plan stuff. " if scum can stop you, they will stop you, so you might as well tell us all the effects of your plan (but leave out the details of how, if that will stop scum from interfering)." This is what you say. I have told everything I can which doesn't give the scum enough idea how to counter-measure my power. You keep asking me for everything, but then you keep pointing out to leaving out the details if it means that scum can't interfere. This is the point you constantly keep bringing up, you want to know DETAILS about my plan. I have told everything I will tell, deal with it. If there was a mason possibility, I'd gladly explain the full extent of my plan to certain people via PM, but unfortunately that's not possible. To be completely honest, at this point you personally cannot convince me to go along with your plan. I admit that WBG's 4 cases post made me think. If your basis on not pushing me to the flames is that I could be scum with a superpower that extends the flames (that would still leave me there, wouldn't it?), then you're on thin ice. How about you start thinking rationally and don't do stuff because your scared of something that is extremely unlikely. How about you don't PoP at all today because someone could have an ability that kills you when touched? Lol. Nice straw man argument. We could pull to kill syllogism, yes, and I would be fine with that too. My plan however is much more beneficial for the town regarding a similar amount of PoPs (unless syllo happens to be right at the bottom again, and I am really far from the flames). My scum reads are also not "Everyone who is against my plan = scum". If you paid more attention to my posts, you would know that I have provided fair analysis based on other stuff than opposing my plan, you're just outright lying here to make me look bad. You ask me to make cases on other people than syllo. And I have, but you choose to ignore them and claim there aren't any. That's just pathetic. As for my ability, I can kill any scum I want, but the amount depends on the circumstances. Happy? Okay... that is pretty damned strange, but okay, fair enough. You finally answered a question in a different way than "it benefits town". As for your analysis before today: it impressed me. It is your plan today that has me jitterish. You are still 50% of what's left of risk's DT check and I am unwilling to trust you, more so because of the way you push this plan. | ||
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Nemesis
Canada2568 Posts
If we do, I'd like to use my push early before anyone else, because my push might make him skip over the item. | ||
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
Thus by pulling snarfs he intends to bring him to safety. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18074 Posts
On April 05 2012 03:25 wherebugsgo wrote: You could make that argument about anyone who is scum, but then how would we actually kill them? Remember that if Cephiro could do something bad by getting to that zone we'd probably have to deal with it somehow anyway, at some point in the game. He even said he'd be fine with pushing syllo instead. Occam's razor dictates we should just push him, because in all of the circumstances it's the simplest answer. Our only problem would be nullfication, but that would happen even if we pushed syllo instead, I'd bet. Well, we could always pull him off the bottom. Anyway. You're making some sense now. I'm gonna go shopping and read Cephiro's filter again when I get back. I still don't think I'll help out, but I'll try to give the plan another shot and try to read it without paranoid glasses. More people whose judgement I trust posting would also help. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On April 05 2012 03:39 Cephiro wrote: Yeah but he claimed to have no PoP at all when I asked him about if he has no PoP due to using a power or such yesterday. And even if he did that yesterday, he should have PoP today then, unless he has a power that neglects his PoP for the whole game. You seem fairly sure that he is of no danger to town though, am I right if I say that you have a rolecheck on him or are you just speculating? No, I'm not sure at all and right now because he is confused why we are focusing on Bluelightz he actually looks fairly scummy. Layabout you need to explain yourself, and probably also explain why you are defending BM right now rather than letting BM talk for himself. Why are you wondering why Bluelightz is taking pulls? | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On April 05 2012 03:45 Acrofales wrote: Well, we could always pull him off the bottom. Anyway. You're making some sense now. I'm gonna go shopping and read Cephiro's filter again when I get back. I still don't think I'll help out, but I'll try to give the plan another shot and try to read it without paranoid glasses. More people whose judgement I trust posting would also help. You're right, we could pull him, but I'd rather consolidate our pulls on Bluelightz. | ||
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Cephiro
Finland1934 Posts
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
Of the two cephiro appears to be town because of ________yawn________ Syllogism does not appear to be scumhunting, but has spent time and effort doing "other stuff" Yet i see a number of pulls have been used on Bluelightz, before i have even had a chance to read the thread. It looks like this is going to end up like yesterday... I am not roleclaiming so suck it. | ||
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
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Cephiro
Finland1934 Posts
On April 05 2012 04:00 layabout wrote: Given what we know, we should kill syllo. Between syllo and ceph we have at least a 50/50 chance of hitting mafia, if risk is being truthful and there are no millers. Of the two cephiro appears to be town because of ________yawn________ Syllogism does not appear to be scumhunting, but has spent time and effort doing "other stuff" Yet i see a number of pulls have been used on Bluelightz, before i have even had a chance to read the thread. It looks like this is going to end up like yesterday... I am not roleclaiming so suck it. I am not asking you to roleclaim, but please prove that you do not have PoP by using a push on me. Otherwise everyone has a fairly good reason to be suspicious of you. Also, please check mine and wbg's arguments for my plan instead of using PoP on syllo. | ||
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
Bluelightz i would like you to explain your ability (in your own words we must not break any rules) in full and tell us your thought process behind using it today. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
In addition, you have nothing to lose by confirming that you have no PoP power by trying to pull Bluelightz and push syllo or Cephiro. Again, care to explain why we shouldn't pull blue when you said yesterday if he uses his power he should be killed? | ||
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
On April 05 2012 04:10 wherebugsgo wrote: By talking for him, what are you doing? All we've proved is that he isn't reading the thread and thus is as good a kill as anyone else. In addition, you have nothing to lose by confirming that you have no PoP power by trying to pull Bluelightz and push syllo or Cephiro. Again, care to explain why we shouldn't pull blue when you said yesterday if he uses his power he should be killed? What if Bluelightz didn't read the "don't use that anti town power you nitwit" comments? He didn't post during the night after any of them. So it is possible that he believed that it was correct to use his power to confirm his ability. It wouldn't hurt to hear his explanation for his actions before we kill him. Saying that, there is no excuse for his actions. He I didn't talk for Bill Murray. Several people (like you) called him scum for pulling snarfs. But his posts suggest that he thought it would be sending snarfs to safety. Ecuse me for poitning out that some other people were hastily jumping to conclusions and spamming posts to _________* + Show Spoiler [*] + Drown out frankly embarassing scumslips,+ Show Spoiler + "If i were town...." | ||
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Cephiro
Finland1934 Posts
On April 05 2012 04:23 layabout wrote: + Show Spoiler + On April 05 2012 04:10 wherebugsgo wrote: By talking for him, what are you doing? All we've proved is that he isn't reading the thread and thus is as good a kill as anyone else. In addition, you have nothing to lose by confirming that you have no PoP power by trying to pull Bluelightz and push syllo or Cephiro. Again, care to explain why we shouldn't pull blue when you said yesterday if he uses his power he should be killed? What if Bluelightz didn't read the "don't use that anti town power you nitwit" comments? He didn't post during the night after any of them. So it is possible that he believed that it was correct to use his power to confirm his ability. It wouldn't hurt to hear his explanation for his actions before we kill him. Saying that, there is no excuse for his actions. He I didn't talk for Bill Murray. Several people (like you) called him scum for pulling snarfs. But his posts suggest that he thought it would be sending snarfs to safety. Ecuse me for poitning out that some other people were hastily jumping to conclusions and spamming posts to _________* + Show Spoiler [*] + Drown out frankly embarassing scumslips,+ Show Spoiler + "If i were town...." So.... I'm still waiting for the command. Going to prove you got no PoP or not? You're raising in my suspicion list quite nicely at the moment. | ||
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
speaking of which i just noticed this in Kurumi's profile Insta-vigilante list: appruds layabout You Numbers are awesome and make breadcrumbing ezpz I am insane and Polish,that doesn't go very well. 13 2 6 3 2 2 13 i feel like i have won an award | ||
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