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Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
April 04 2012 19:39 GMT
#1021
On April 05 2012 04:33 layabout wrote:
i am waiting on the mods to tell me if i can

speaking of which i just noticed this in Kurumi's profile
Show nested quote +
Insta-vigilante list:
appruds
layabout
You
Numbers are awesome and make breadcrumbing ezpz
I am insane and Polish,that doesn't go very well.
13 2 6 3 2 2 13

i feel like i have won an award


I mean that if you type ##push Cephiro in the thread now, we should see whether you were honest or not in the next PoP-list update. If you can't do that, then it simply won't work.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18425 Posts
April 04 2012 19:41 GMT
#1022
Okay, I did the shopping and some of the cooking, but not done yet. For the record, I disagree that BM is scum. I think he's just dumb. He's not even particularly bad (not like Bluelightz bad anyway), just dumb. I don't think we'll miss out on anything by lynching him, but I'd rather lynch scum.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18425 Posts
April 04 2012 19:42 GMT
#1023
Taking my ipad to the kitchen to read cephiro's filter. We also probably need to wait for ace to confirm pushes/pulls before doing anything. He hasn't posted since BM's derps.
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 04 2012 19:46 GMT
#1024
Acro what is it about the plan that you disagree with?

Apparently we are short on time, and from the sound of it pushing him should help to "2 scum" and at worse it practically hands us 1 scum
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 04 2012 19:54 GMT
#1025
ACE! please don't smite me
##push Cephiro
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18425 Posts
April 04 2012 20:08 GMT
#1026
Okay. I have given Cephiro's filter a very quick read through and I am no longer so opposed to his plan. However, I don't feel much like cooperating. I would like to make a new case on Cephiro, acting as if risk.nuke's traffic light didn't happen but that takes time. How much time do we have?

If I go along with it now, I am basically only doing it because WBG thinks it's a good idea and I have a town read on WBG. I don't much like that reason.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18425 Posts
April 04 2012 20:09 GMT
#1027
EBWOP: to clarify, by leaving out the traffic light, I use only my own reads, rather than having them biased by the game mechanic.
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
April 04 2012 20:11 GMT
#1028
Go for it!
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 04 2012 20:14 GMT
#1029
I still don't get why we're not just pushing syllogism but as I said before, this is fine with me too.

##Push Cephiro
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
April 04 2012 20:17 GMT
#1030
Since we can't conditional PoP, should we wait for Ace to post updates before we push? That way we'd know if Cephiro might have got the item yet or not.

On April 05 2012 03:44 Nemesis wrote:
Ok shit, are we really going with Cephiro's plan?

If we do, I'd like to use my push early before anyone else, because my push might make him skip over the item.

Also, Nemesis, if you're going to use your push on Ceph, now's the time I'd say.
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
April 04 2012 20:23 GMT
#1031
wbg I'm just actively lurking, haha <3

Don't worry though, I have a plan!
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Tobon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States372 Posts
April 04 2012 20:26 GMT
#1032
On April 05 2012 05:17 Snarfs wrote:
Since we can't conditional PoP, should we wait for Ace to post updates before we push? That way we'd know if Cephiro might have got the item yet or not.


I don't think Cephiro could have started in the fire (#19), and he has 2 pushes now. So at closest, he maybe could've gone from 17 to 19? I think it should still be safe / a good idea for Nemesis to push next (and to go ahead and do it), and then wait for an update.

I'll push after an update and after giving warning.
Tobon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States372 Posts
April 04 2012 20:27 GMT
#1033
EBWOP: I suppose it's possible he started in 18 and a Nemesis push would skip him over the item, but I don't think it's actually possible that any toy would be randomly placed that far up.
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
April 04 2012 20:28 GMT
#1034
##push cephiro
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
April 04 2012 20:28 GMT
#1035
On April 05 2012 05:27 Tobon wrote:
EBWOP: I suppose it's possible he started in 18 and a Nemesis push would skip him over the item, but I don't think it's actually possible that any toy would be randomly placed that far up.

Don't forget that if he lands on a row completely occupied he'll skip to the next.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18425 Posts
April 04 2012 20:33 GMT
#1036
Okay, a pretty quick case, because I don't have time to write it up properly. Have to go to dinner.

Pros:
townie posts on first day: good catch on cascade. Also agrees that Mattchew has so far done nothing of note (agree with both reads).
good questions and pays attention to the game.
helps the Palmar rescue attempt after nullify is confirmed (and Palmar is town).
response to prplhz' criticism of the case

neutral:
initial case against prplhz doesn't convince me (but I'll read prplhz's filter better later. so much homework for this game /sigh)

Cons:
excessively paranoid about Palmar (lol, and now I'm paranoid about him. The irony is strong here)
lots of useless filler, including many (useless) affirmations that he is town and a bitch-fight with syllo.
even after nullify, trying to cast suspicion on palmar.



Then, the plan. It's still a null read with scummy tendencies to me, but if I read it from the assumption that Cephiro is town, then it looks okay. I still don't like his insistence that the nullifier cannot touch him, but I have to admit that overall the town reads are stronger than the scum reads. Risk.nuke's red light might have biased me too far.

I am still cautious, but willing to go along with the plan. It's dinner time now, but if you want my push afterwards, I'll give it.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
April 04 2012 20:33 GMT
#1037
On April 05 2012 05:23 risk.nuke wrote:
wbg I'm just actively lurking, haha <3

Don't worry though, I have a plan!


what's this plan?

Nemesis can you hold your push or push now before anyone else does? I'd rather you save your push for an emergency actually, to say, push someone other than Cephiro.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18425 Posts
April 04 2012 20:35 GMT
#1038
bugs, want me to push now? Or in like half an hour - an hour (after dinner)?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18425 Posts
April 04 2012 20:40 GMT
#1039
okay, screw this. if there's a time limit i don't want to be the problem here.

##push cephiro
Tobon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States372 Posts
April 04 2012 20:47 GMT
#1040
um. okay, stop with the pushing until we get an update, please?
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