I mean that if you type ##push Cephiro in the thread now, we should see whether you were honest or not in the next PoP-list update. If you can't do that, then it simply won't work.

Acrofales

Spain18473 Posts

April 04 2012 19:41 GMT

#1022

Okay, I did the shopping and some of the cooking, but not done yet. For the record, I disagree that BM is scum. I think he's just dumb. He's not even particularly bad (not like Bluelightz bad anyway), just dumb. I don't think we'll miss out on anything by lynching him, but I'd rather lynch scum.

Acrofales

Spain18473 Posts

April 04 2012 19:42 GMT

#1023

Taking my ipad to the kitchen to read cephiro's filter. We also probably need to wait for ace to confirm pushes/pulls before doing anything. He hasn't posted since BM's derps.

layabout

United Kingdom2600 Posts

April 04 2012 19:46 GMT

#1024

Acro what is it about the plan that you disagree with?

Apparently we are short on time, and from the sound of it pushing him should help to "2 scum" and at worse it practically hands us 1 scum

layabout

United Kingdom2600 Posts

April 04 2012 19:54 GMT

#1025

ACE! please don't smite me
##push Cephiro

Acrofales

Spain18473 Posts

April 04 2012 20:08 GMT

#1026

Okay. I have given Cephiro's filter a very quick read through and I am no longer so opposed to his plan. However, I don't feel much like cooperating. I would like to make a new case on Cephiro, acting as if risk.nuke's traffic light didn't happen but that takes time. How much time do we have?

If I go along with it now, I am basically only doing it because WBG thinks it's a good idea and I have a town read on WBG. I don't much like that reason.

Acrofales

Spain18473 Posts

April 04 2012 20:09 GMT

#1027

EBWOP: to clarify, by leaving out the traffic light, I use only my own reads, rather than having them biased by the game mechanic.

layabout

United Kingdom2600 Posts

April 04 2012 20:11 GMT

#1028

Go for it!

prplhz

Denmark8045 Posts

April 04 2012 20:14 GMT

#1029

I still don't get why we're not just pushing syllogism but as I said before, this is fine with me too.

##Push Cephiro

Snarfs

Canada1006 Posts

April 04 2012 20:17 GMT

#1030

Since we can't conditional PoP, should we wait for Ace to post updates before we push? That way we'd know if Cephiro might have got the item yet or not.

On April 05 2012 03:44 Nemesis wrote:
Ok shit, are we really going with Cephiro's plan?

If we do, I'd like to use my push early before anyone else, because my push might make him skip over the item.

Also, Nemesis, if you're going to use your push on Ceph, now's the time I'd say.

risk.nuke

Sweden2825 Posts

April 04 2012 20:23 GMT

#1031

wbg I'm just actively lurking, haha <3

Don't worry though, I have a plan!

Tobon

United States372 Posts

April 04 2012 20:26 GMT

#1032

On April 05 2012 05:17 Snarfs wrote:
Since we can't conditional PoP, should we wait for Ace to post updates before we push? That way we'd know if Cephiro might have got the item yet or not.

I don't think Cephiro could have started in the fire (#19), and he has 2 pushes now. So at closest, he maybe could've gone from 17 to 19? I think it should still be safe / a good idea for Nemesis to push next (and to go ahead and do it), and then wait for an update.

I'll push after an update and after giving warning.

Tobon

United States372 Posts

April 04 2012 20:27 GMT

#1033

EBWOP: I suppose it's possible he started in 18 and a Nemesis push would skip him over the item, but I don't think it's actually possible that any toy would be randomly placed that far up.

risk.nuke

Sweden2825 Posts

April 04 2012 20:28 GMT

#1034

##push cephiro

Snarfs

Canada1006 Posts

April 04 2012 20:28 GMT

#1035

On April 05 2012 05:27 Tobon wrote:
EBWOP: I suppose it's possible he started in 18 and a Nemesis push would skip him over the item, but I don't think it's actually possible that any toy would be randomly placed that far up.

Don't forget that if he lands on a row completely occupied he'll skip to the next.

Acrofales

Spain18473 Posts

April 04 2012 20:33 GMT

#1036

Okay, a pretty quick case, because I don't have time to write it up properly. Have to go to dinner.

Pros:
townie posts on first day: good catch on cascade. Also agrees that Mattchew has so far done nothing of note (agree with both reads).
good questions and pays attention to the game.
helps the Palmar rescue attempt after nullify is confirmed (and Palmar is town).
response to prplhz' criticism of the case

neutral:
initial case against prplhz doesn't convince me (but I'll read prplhz's filter better later. so much homework for this game /sigh)

Cons:
excessively paranoid about Palmar (lol, and now I'm paranoid about him. The irony is strong here)
lots of useless filler, including many (useless) affirmations that he is town and a bitch-fight with syllo.
even after nullify, trying to cast suspicion on palmar.

Then, the plan. It's still a null read with scummy tendencies to me, but if I read it from the assumption that Cephiro is town, then it looks okay. I still don't like his insistence that the nullifier cannot touch him, but I have to admit that overall the town reads are stronger than the scum reads. Risk.nuke's red light might have biased me too far.

I am still cautious, but willing to go along with the plan. It's dinner time now, but if you want my push afterwards, I'll give it.

wherebugsgo

Japan10647 Posts

April 04 2012 20:33 GMT

#1037

On April 05 2012 05:23 risk.nuke wrote:
wbg I'm just actively lurking, haha <3

Don't worry though, I have a plan!

what's this plan?

Nemesis can you hold your push or push now before anyone else does? I'd rather you save your push for an emergency actually, to say, push someone other than Cephiro.