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On March 21 2012 04:00 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2012 03:40 Velinath wrote:
Nobody's bought anything from the black market yet. Given the opportunity to buy a watcher/medic/whatever role, you decided not to? Why is that? You've used the black market to cover up the fact that you aren't scum hunting. Why aren't you being transparent with you scum reads like you promised when elected?
They're one-shot items, and I'm limited on money at the moment (only got 700 to start, and the sentry gun for example is 300 by itself).
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ebwop I'll post my reads/support after I get done with class. There are a couple of people whose posting patterns are a little off to me and I'll explain that once I have time to write it all up neatly/am not posting from my tablet.
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There are people who are pushing against Kenpachi?
I may not agree about him wanting to kill Glados, but that doesn't mean that he is Anti-town. It could be very well that it is an additional wincond for him.
on bluelightz:
On March 17 2012 10:08 Bluelightz wrote:
For the elections, I vote Mr.Wiggles to be Wheatley position, Mr.Wiggles is lookking fairly town and has put effort into his posts.
##Elect: Mr.Wiggles
I don't like how bluelightz was convinced from the beginning that Mr Wiggles is town.
On March 17 2012 10:26 Bluelightz wrote:
Oh, Drazerks arguement just threw my argument out of the window, Unvoting Wiggles and gonna look at Veli, Drazerk, based on that item would you be fine for lynching him?
Then he gets somehow convinced by Drazerks useless standard statement and changes his election vote.
Next, his suspicions against Draz:
On March 18 2012 00:24 Bluelightz wrote:
Hassy, IF Drazerk is third party, should we lynch him? I'm thinking we should because that its the best bet we have for a day 1 lynch.
And then, out of nowhere, his very next post:
On March 18 2012 01:39 Bluelightz wrote:
Alright, before I go I will place my lynch vote on sinani206!
First, he has been lurking.
Second, because that sinani looks very suspicous later on, it might distract us later in the game.
##Vote: sinani206
Sinani's participation in this game has not been the best till now, but saying that "it might distract us later" is wtf. Blue, could you please elaborate why you chose to lynch sinani and not Draz?
And regarding the three "burned to death" kills, I think that those were vig items, not actual KP of a party or player.
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Just to clarify Velinath, I don't know if you ever said so I'll ask again, are you allowed to use items yourself or can you only give them away to people to use?
Also, wow, I just got caught up with everything, so many deaths in 1 night, and almost all of the active posters/strong players.
For viable lynch targets: There's too many to count since we have so many lurker types, myself included. If someone makes a compelling case on a particular lurker I may sheep that vote, but I'd prefer to vote Kenpachi today.
My view on Kenpachi, either he's mafia/sleeper faction or he's a third party. None of his posts have been anywhere near about helping town except for his claim about GlaDos (which actually hurts town with all the stupid discussion about it). Not worth keeping alive, all he will do is be a distraction to town.
Will post more stuff when I can, pretty busy with class as well. If you don't think I'm being useful enough to town, feel free to vig me just like every other lurker! (This is a joke /sarcasm)
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I can use items that I buy myself or I can give them away to people
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/4iWOe.png) Breaker the Magical Warrior has been played!
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You activated my trap card!
![[image loading]](http://images.wikia.com/yugioh/images/4/4f/TrapHoleYSDJ-EN-C.jpg)
TAKE THAT!
<protip: I don't actually have a card, I just thought it'd be fitting>
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Ha, take that suckers.
And two warrior cards, is someone playing a warrior deck here?
Are these cards items?
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On March 21 2012 06:22 Zephirdd wrote:You activated my trap card! TAKE THAT! <protip: I don't actually have a card, I just thought it'd be fitting>
I would still be able to use Priority to destroy your other face down magic/trap cards
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wat, I thought my trap had priority.
Wait, we can actually play this?
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Sorry for not being around the last 24 hours. I've had assignments due, and have been generally busy.
I want to ask, Kita, have you been reading the thread? Drazerk said that he used an item on me that said I'm not third party, which actually turned out to be one of his role abilities. So, I wouldn't fight against it, because it says I'm not third party, not that I'm scum. Next, my reads on a lot of people right now aren't very strong, simply due to the nature of the game. For each person, I need to decide whether they're town, third-party, Sleeper Cell, or Mafia (who I assume exist). People can get away with a lot of weird things in this game, just because of the confusion inherent to it. Also, that post was made after day 1, so a lot of my reads will still be mixed. I list the good and the bad things with people, because they are there. Then you have to make a judgement call of whether the bad things make them scummy, or the good things make them town. Using the Gonzaw example, I said I had a town read on him, but he was spamming the thread, which is bad. Spamming the thread doesn't make him mafia, though, so I'm not sure why you try to make it seem that way.
Anyways, I'm going to read over the thread some more, and hopefully decide who I want to lynch.
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Did anyone else get item-blocked by the Breaker card, or was it just me?
Kita, everyone I've posted about my role has been true. When I said that I had no role abilities and won with the town, that was in the context of people worrying that a PR Wheatley might have to be killed later on if his win-condition changed.
Wiggles, that last post of yours says an awful lot of nothing. Why bother making it? You defend yourself against kita by saying that you're not going to bother defending against him, and then you post an unusually long string of fluff. I hope that your upcoming reads are solid, because otherwise I'm not getting a great town read from you, and I would hate to have for you to be on a team opposed to us.
Zeph and david: Seriously? If you're here, you might as well be contributing. This thread is near dead compared to where it was yesterday.
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kitaman27
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On March 21 2012 06:30 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
I want to ask, Kita, have you been reading the thread? Drazerk said that he used an item on me that said I'm not third party, which actually turned out to be one of his role abilities. So, I wouldn't fight against it, because it says I'm not third party, not that I'm scum.
But that's not how the series of events unfolded. Draz didn't claim third party until later in the game. At that point, we only knew that he shot VE and that his kill flavor could possibly point to the barlog. Either way, if you're town and Draz is posting that he has used an item to determine that he has a different alignment than you, why does it take 24 hours for you to be voting for him?
On March 21 2012 06:30 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Also, that post was made after day 1, so a lot of my reads will still be mixed. I list the good and the bad things with people, because they are there. Then you have to make a judgement call of whether the bad things make them scummy, or the good things make them town.
I haven't seen you call anyone scum yet, which is strange 100 hours into the game.
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@phagga - You posted earlier that I've been inactive this game compared to previous, and you're right. I'm trying to do a better job at scum hunting this game. If you look back at the two games I've played previous, the players I've argued with the most both turned out to be town. If I see someone behaving scummy, I won't hesitate to call them out, but otherwise I'm going to resign myself to taking it easy and making sure that the town doesn't do something stupid. Seemed to work well finding sloosh in the last game, hoping for a repeat performance.
Now to hunt some scum.
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On March 21 2012 06:47 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2012 06:30 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
I want to ask, Kita, have you been reading the thread? Drazerk said that he used an item on me that said I'm not third party, which actually turned out to be one of his role abilities. So, I wouldn't fight against it, because it says I'm not third party, not that I'm scum. But that's not how the series of events unfolded. Draz didn't claim third party until later in the game. At that point, we only knew that he shot VE and that his kill flavor could possibly point to the barlog. Either way, if you're town and Draz is posting that he has used an item to determine that he has a different alignment than you, why does it take 24 hours for you to be voting for him? Show nested quote +On March 21 2012 06:30 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Also, that post was made after day 1, so a lot of my reads will still be mixed. I list the good and the bad things with people, because they are there. Then you have to make a judgement call of whether the bad things make them scummy, or the good things make them town. I haven't seen you call anyone scum yet, which is strange 100 hours into the game.
I didn't think he was town. He also claimed to have checked Velinath as either the same as him or a DT, which made no sense. So, I didn't see the need of arguing against it, when it's an unconfirmed parity check from someone who's probably not town.
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@Midnight - I saw that you didn't think that I responded to your post. Sorry I missed your post on the first read through. Your point was brought up by Nisani and Maverick, and I addressed it here. If you're still not happy with this, I'm more than happy to discuss it.
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On March 20 2012 05:59 ghost_403 wrote:As far as my thoughts on Dirk: not impressed, but not ready to lynch him. A few of his posts have been aggressive and poorly thought out. For example, this one, where he says we should lynch anyone who was not immediately on board the Draz lynch. That's terrible play for a lot of reasons. Right now, I'm leaning stupid aggressive townie as opposed to scum, but I'm willing to change my positions if he does something really stupid. If he got vig'd, I'd say no big loss.
I did the same thing in Newbie mafia, when I tried to defend my scumbuddy. Exactly the same, which is:
-calling the person stupid or bad
-telling everyone that I am willing to change the stance on this person judging from his future behaviour, but now for the moment giving him the "bad townie" status
-at the same time distancing myself from him, "no big loss"
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@blubbdavid - And I did exactly the same thing in my last game against another townie, Chocolate.
-called him stupid and bad
-telling everyone I was willing to lynch him, but was happy to lynch other people
-said it was no big loss if he had been lynched
We were both town. Newbie Mini Mafia IV, for reference.
That being said, it is curious that Dirk hasn't shown up to defend himself.
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