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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
March 21 2012 00:00 GMT
#1281
On March 21 2012 08:47 Jayjay54 wrote:
and before I get a lot of bullshit for defending dirk.

I defended dirk when I read foolishness case, because it took a post straight out of content.

Now, I am defending him, because I know stuff about his role which is a semi-strong - strong towntell.

So, I personally would like a different lynch choice. Right now, Nisani.

Well now I'm intrigued. The way you said that makes it sound like you found something out over the night but you didn't want me to shoot him during the night before any night action would have returned.
Velinath
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States694 Posts
March 21 2012 00:01 GMT
#1282
So, my personal scumreads:

Bluelightz
I said it day 1, and his play got put down to meta. That said, like it or not, 90% of his posts have been one liners, fluff, and sheeping. The only halfway serious post I've seen out of him was that on Kenpachi, and it's my feeling that Kenpachi, while he may or may not be town (he claimed to win with town), is at worst a third party, and we need to be focusing on lynching scum day 2 onwards.

Also, as has been stated, opposed policy lynch and then voted to lynch a lurker (rather than a guaranteed non-town lynch day 1, which is near-best case scenario honestly).

One thing that jumps out at me was an immediate sheep on Drazerk's voting me, and then switching to BH with nothing given past "Well, I caught up on the thread..."

Dirk
is a null read for me right now mainly due to Jayjay's most recent post ("I know stuff about his role which is a semi-strong - strong towntell") - I'll go with that for now. I'd like more though at some point.

That said he's obviously a smurf (1 post? Wha?) and if so, he's not playing up to the potential I'd expect from a smurf.

blubbdavid
On March 19 2012 03:00 blubbdavid wrote:
Because I am town. Same as I was in Kaller.
Rule of thumb: blubbdavid posts little or only crap = blubbdavid is town

So if he posts well, he's scum, and if he posts badly, he's bad town? I fail to see how, either way, we'd lose out by getting rid of him.
That said his recent posts haven't been terrible and I assume that the post I quoted was at least mildly hyperbolic. If he continues posting at least semi-quality stuff I'd be willing to hold off.

GLaDOS
Not a player in the game, but I've been reading the nightpost and dayposts. She seems kind of sadistic. Regardless of whether Ken is a third party or town aligned, I feel that we should get rid of her.

I'll add that I think that she killed Foolishness given the kill flavour as I have stated before.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
March 21 2012 00:03 GMT
#1283
@david: I know that he has an ability which normally belongs to town. It is not sure though. There are other possibilites.

@deadmanwalking: what questions?
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
March 21 2012 00:04 GMT
#1284
On March 21 2012 09:03 Jayjay54 wrote:
@david: I know that he has an ability which normally belongs to town. It is not sure though. There are other possibilites.

@deadmanwalking: what questions?

Sinani wants to know when hes going to die lol
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
March 21 2012 00:04 GMT
#1285
Question @ Kenpachi:
What party are you?

Question @ Grackaroni:
What party are you?
I know that you stated that you are 4th party, but I want to know it again.


And bluelighz, I still want to know why you voted for Sinani.
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
March 21 2012 00:05 GMT
#1286
I'm town. I didn't think there was a such thing as a 4th party role. (maybe I'm wrong?)
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
March 21 2012 00:06 GMT
#1287
Well, with sinani dying soon, we will see bluelightz intent.
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
March 21 2012 00:07 GMT
#1288
On March 21 2012 09:00 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2012 08:47 Jayjay54 wrote:
and before I get a lot of bullshit for defending dirk.

I defended dirk when I read foolishness case, because it took a post straight out of content.

Now, I am defending him, because I know stuff about his role which is a semi-strong - strong towntell.

So, I personally would like a different lynch choice. Right now, Nisani.

Well now I'm intrigued. The way you said that makes it sound like you found something out over the night but you didn't want me to shoot him during the night before any night action would have returned.


are you actually reading my post? I posted exactly why I defended him yesterday. The foolishness case everyone was so obsessed about was not as good. He even said so himself:

On March 19 2012 04:36 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 04:12 Jayjay54 wrote:
On March 19 2012 04:02 Foolishness wrote:
But there's another thing I must restate,
A defense from Dirk, I still await.
He made one post,
he thinks he can coast?
Watch him closely over the next few dates.


hey rhyming bro,

why dirk over all the other lurkers? IMO his single post actually made sense at the time.

so why pick him over C_C or kita or whatever who had no single sensible post.


As I said, his post was one giant ball of fluff
To read it, on my eyes, it was certainly rough.
Perhaps my suspicion
was merely intuition.
He can live another day before we put on the cuffs.


That had nothing to do with the role.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
March 21 2012 00:11 GMT
#1289
On March 21 2012 08:18 ghost_403 wrote:
@lanaia: I really want to know who you think is scum. Hard mode: Answer anyone other than Dirk.


Again, really sorry for being away.

I dunno, looking at blue really makes me feel uneasy.
In particular:
On March 18 2012 17:51 Bluelightz wrote:
Seriously Dirk, step up, like others said your analysis post is fluffy as derp and your not helping town in any way.

I mean really, this looks like coaching or something, but I don't know why they'd do that here rather than private.


I'm really not liking gonzaw's lists and will be keeping an eye on him. There was someone else I intended to look more closely at but I seem to have forgotten who.
Oh right, zelblade.
I'm not liking zelblade, but I think i'm reading too much into blazinghand's read on him.


Also srbubbles is taking things far more seriously than needed, but that probably isn't indicative of anything.
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
March 21 2012 00:12 GMT
#1290
going to sleep now. and I want to stress again, dirk is not confirmed, but his role is townish and the case wasn't as good. I'd like to lynch somebody else. If you think dirk's filter says nothing, look at nisani's.

good night...
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
March 21 2012 00:13 GMT
#1291
@Lanaia :
I regret to inform you, but Gonzaw is dead.
You should pretend, to be reading the thread.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
March 21 2012 00:14 GMT
#1292
On March 21 2012 09:13 Grackaroni wrote:
@Lanaia :
I regret to inform you, but Gonzaw is dead.
You should pretend, to be reading the thread.

I have been reading the thread. I just appear to have forgotten he died.
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
March 21 2012 00:21 GMT
#1293
You didn't really say much there, Lanaia.

You point a few random things out, then dismiss them just as quickly.

When I compare this post to, say, one of yours in Sleeper Cell II:
Sleeper Cell II
I do not see the same conviction in your reads, nor effort in finding them.

Who is your top scum read, and obviously.. why?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
March 21 2012 00:22 GMT
#1294
On March 21 2012 09:12 Jayjay54 wrote:
going to sleep now. and I want to stress again, dirk is not confirmed, but his role is townish and the case wasn't as good. I'd like to lynch somebody else. If you think dirk's filter says nothing, look at nisani's.

good night...

I think we should be strongly considering people's previous play.
Take Lanaia here for an example :


On March 21 2012 09:11 Lanaia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2012 08:18 ghost_403 wrote:
@lanaia: I really want to know who you think is scum. Hard mode: Answer anyone other than Dirk.


Again, really sorry for being away.

I dunno, looking at blue really makes me feel uneasy.
In particular:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2012 17:51 Bluelightz wrote:
Seriously Dirk, step up, like others said your analysis post is fluffy as derp and your not helping town in any way.

I mean really, this looks like coaching or something, but I don't know why they'd do that here rather than private.


I'm really not liking gonzaw's lists and will be keeping an eye on him. There was someone else I intended to look more closely at but I seem to have forgotten who.
Oh right, zelblade.
I'm not liking zelblade, but I think i'm reading too much into blazinghand's read on him.


Also srbubbles is taking things far more seriously than needed, but that probably isn't indicative of anything.

All of her reads in this post are completely wishy-washy. If it was another player I would assume that she was scum, but I know that Lanaia often is wishy-washy so it's not a sure tell on her alignment.

If I knew who Dirk was it might help me a lot, but if he was playing when foolishness' game from 8 months ago was going on which is what i suspect than he should be a pretty solid veteran. He has not been playing like a solid veteran.
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
March 21 2012 00:25 GMT
#1295
After reading Kenpachi's filter, I am starting to feel more like he is scum. Pretty much all of his posts are about killing GLaDOS, which makes me feel like he is apathetic about winning with town. And the fact that he wants to kill GLaDOS seems very anti-town to me, though I suppose it's hard to say since I don't know the consequence of his actions.

I also think that Dirk is scum because he I feel like a lot of his posts are misguiding discussion of the thread. He hasn't posted any of his reads.

I've been reading through filters and it's hard to find good lynch candidates. Since Drazerk was 3P it's hard to draw connections/information from his list because pretty much everyone hated him. However we should still look at people that were vocally hesitant to vote him because those people could suspect him of being in the sleeper cell and not want to lynch one of their members.
Enjoy your day.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 21 2012 00:26 GMT
#1296
i said i win with town. im Town aligned.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 21 2012 00:26 GMT
#1297
lol @ nisani.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
March 21 2012 00:26 GMT
#1298
OK fine I say I'm motherfucking president Obama.
Enjoy your day.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 21 2012 00:28 GMT
#1299
On March 20 2012 20:15 Bluelightz wrote:
Alright reading up, A Sinani or Kenpachi lynch would be my prefered lynch today, But today I want to lynch Kenpachi

First up, He is pushing Glados

Examples:

Show nested quote +
On March 17 2012 11:20 Kenpachi wrote:
Im trying to kill GLaDOS to get my superpower.
short and simple. killing GLaDOS does not require voting in the voting thread. all we need is a consensus in the discussion thread. kk simple right?

Show nested quote +
On March 17 2012 15:52 Kenpachi wrote:
and we kill GLaDOS. That is the main point our party would advocate if my selfless begging gets us nowhere


You would say that Kenpachi is pushing Glados for his superpower but, has Kenpachi told anything on what HAPPENS when we actually get a majority on Glados?

Also, Kenpachi NEVER explained his reads, he just randomly said "Wiggles is town", "HOLY FUCK YOU JUST PAITNED YOUR SELF SCUM IN 1 POST LOL."
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 08:44 Kenpachi wrote:
huh. #1 reading it seems.
my reads? Kitaman is scum
Wiggles is Town
.

Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 04:35 Kenpachi wrote:
On March 19 2012 04:02 kitaman27 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

I think our best bet might be to elect one of the seemingly town aligned cores. I think it's pretty clear who they are and if I can pick up on it with a quick read, I'm sure the mafia team already knows who they are. We may be able to abuse the idea of a certain player having a certain item to determines one alignment, similar to PTP2 (?)

Could someone explain why Velinath is overwhelmingly being voted? I feel like I'm missing something.

VE's role came from the haunted 2 role suggestion post game. There might be others in there to give us an idea what we might be dealing with. Look for anything that is posted that doesn't naturally fit in a post. That is the easiest way to identify if there is sleeper cell communication going on in the thread.

On March 17 2012 08:01 GreYMisT wrote:
Also among you are some villains from your past I found through the rift.


At one point, kenpachi randomly posts a picture of Mussolini (aka a WaW2 villian). Why did you decide to use this image?

On March 18 2012 11:11 Kenpachi wrote:
What fake claim did you recieve?


Is it public knowledge that mafia are recieving fake claims?

On March 17 2012 15:10 Kenpachi wrote:
Well shit, thanks Mods. I have to do real analysis to carry these noobs.


I wonder, is it possible to post this as town with a straight face?

Also, why out of any player in the game are you giving the item to the player that is confirmed non-town? Do you not have the town's best interest in mind?

On March 17 2012 10:17 MidnightGladius wrote:
While I'm waiting for dinner:
-Filters-


Never trust the guy who provides the filters.

On March 17 2012 10:53 Bluelightz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2012 10:49 Kenpachi wrote:
hi guys. i had an awesome day outside eating Korean BBQ and playing Billiard with my friends (birthday boy)

gonna go read the thread now.

btw im Kenpachi and im Townie


Its tempting to believe this because Kenpachi does this every game :O, any thoughts?


Bluelightz, are your biggest concerns honestly kenpachi townie claims, sinani's lurking and cwave's lack of posts?

You nearly have two pages of posts on your own and they are all completely empty.

On March 17 2012 11:07 gonzaw wrote:
Right, first things first:

I believe Drazerk is town.


-_-

On March 17 2012 14:35 sinani206 wrote:
Also, I want to give Wheatley to Drazerk, as he is pretty much confirmed town.


-_-

On March 19 2012 00:09 Hassybaby wrote:
We're talking about lurkers, and totally ignoring kita?


Are you accusing me of being a lurker? I'm carefully observing the thread and posting when its beneficial to me?

First day of spring break + travel + holiday weekend = no time

On March 19 2012 00:10 Hassybaby wrote:
Oh yeah, forgot this bit

##Vote: kitaman27


I'll assume that's an election vote.

On March 19 2012 03:00 blubbdavid wrote:
Because I am town. Same as I was in Kaller.
Rule of thumb: blubbdavid posts little or only crap = blubbdavid is town


-_-

For the lynch, Drazerk seems perfectly reasonable. He says himself that he is targetting down the best players in the thread because they are the biggest threats. Biggest threats to who? The barlog?

Scum or third party, he's not going to help town at any point and his story is changing every few hours. The anti-town factions obviously won't be shooting him at night as he will always be discussed for the lynch and serve as a distraction.

##Vote Drazerk

HOLY FUCK YOU JUST PAINTED YOURSELF SCUM IN 1 POST. LOL


In addition to all this, Kenpachi has been posting mass useless one liners
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 02:49 Kenpachi wrote:
This town sucks

Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 02:56 Kenpachi wrote:
let kill GLaDOS guys

Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 02:57 Kenpachi wrote:
lets*

Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 04:44 Kenpachi wrote:
GMarshal

Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 08:45 Kenpachi wrote:
HOLY FUCK


The above are examples of them.




So, in conclusion, Kenpachi is being useless, and not helping town but only helping his wincon by never telling us what getting a majority on Glados does.

##Vote: Kenpachi

HOLY FUCK THIS GUY IS MAFIA. LOOK AT HIS STYLE OF ANALYSIS. ITS HALF ASSED TO THE MAX.

Ive been accused so many times by scum i know when its scum and when its town.
THIS is scum
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 21 2012 00:30 GMT
#1300
Look.
In addition to all this, Kenpachi has been posting mass useless one liners

saying shit like this is scumtell. From the 30 games ive played, its a derp move to add some "quote content" into analyses for credibility
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
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