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I feel pretty strongly that lynching Dirk is the right choice to make.
His /in post alone lets us know that he's a smurf. He was allowed in with 1 post while Nisani's friend was not.
This post tells me that EITHER Dirk has a lot of time on his hands and looked back through foolishness' games from 8 months ago in order to support his omgus, instead of actively scumhunting. OR this guy has been playing for a long time and is playing a much worse game than he actually should be.
I mean if you look at it he's not even hiding that he's a veteran. He gives out lots of pro-town advice in his original post and his views show that he's played a lot of games before this one.
On March 20 2012 01:50 Dirk Hardpec wrote:
The best way to deal with people not posting or attempting to skirt by is to shoot them when there are so many of them. The difference between people who don't post much is very little, and it's almost a given that mafia can push the lynch off their lurker onto another one. A vigilante shot is much less... emotional and involved.
Ready your guns gentlemen.
The problem is that aside from giving out generic pro-town advice that any veteran could, he hasn't done anything for town. Dirk has been hiding, he only shows up when he's under pressure or if he has to post. He made 2 posts that he had to make explaining his lynch and election choice. As Foolishness already said they add nothing new to the discussion, he then disappears again. Only after being called out, dies he decide to make a shitty case on foolishness and he even contradicts his own generic pro-town advice to vig lurkers when he tries to scare me away from shooting him.
To sum it up, I think that dirk is a smurf of a good player.
He did not contribute anything to the town.
his cases have all been forced omguses. ----> (If he is smurfing he is pretending to be worse than he actually is)
hes attempting to skirt by; he only posts when he is threatened or if he needs to justify a vote.
And of course the most important reason is that Foolishness is always right  (I know we don't know what he was but it's a multifactional game, it doesn't actually matter if he was town as every role but VI should be trying to lynch scum)
##Vote: Dirk Hardpec
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@grack: I thought you needed another lemon to shoot Dirk? Why the change of heart?
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On March 21 2012 07:31 ghost_403 wrote:
@grack: I thought you needed another lemon to shoot Dirk? Why the change of heart?
Well nobody gave me another lemon. Otherwise I would.
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On March 21 2012 03:39 Jayjay54 wrote:
1 So you read the thread and see that it's misguided (I agree with the setting stuff), but you refuse to improve it. Why? That's not how I got to know you in AC. There, you cared. Here, you don't.
2 You claim to read the threat and then go on to post an analysis on a dead player? Way to go!
3 Actually no, Dirk's post said, that Foolishness hides. And he did. He posted one single read on dirk in this game. That was no strong play and I am still not conviced he was town. But that's not the point. This looks more like pushing a player who has been pushed thousands of times before. I know that you pushed him before, but I don't liked your three line reasoning sheeping foolishness either.
4 Same here. At least you add a point, though.
I have a picture of you in my head as a strong player, you were one of the firsts who figured out who toad was in AC. You're smart and you're certainly better thanyou are this game.
I care here. I am posting my reads. I just do not feel the need to contribute in discussion that I deem pointless. I don't enjoy reading a 10 page filter, and I doubt anyone else would want to read mine if it got that large, either. I am not 'refusing to correct it', I am correcting it by deeming it all irrelevant and posting my reads instead, something everyone should be doing.
Look at the tense of my section on Foolishness. I am fully aware that he is dead. I am making the argument that we should follow through on his reads because they are credible regardless of his alignment. The sarcasm is wholly unnecessary.
You need to go back and reread Foolishness filter. He doesn't 'post one single read', he also says that Velinath is town because he has nothing to hide and that Zelblade should have a run-in with a vig.
On March 21 2012 04:10 Jayjay54 wrote:
I think adam, nisani and blue are all reasonable targets.
I find it interesting, however, that I've jumped to your top 3 scum reads for the reason of 'he doesn't care'. If that is your definition of scum this game, then you've got your work cut out for you, there are plenty of people that fit that bill. I am not one of them.
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On March 21 2012 07:34 Adam4167 wrote:I care here. I am posting my reads. I just do not feel the need to contribute in discussion that I deem pointless. I don't enjoy reading a 10 page filter, and I doubt anyone else would want to read mine if it got that large, either. I am not 'refusing to correct it', I am correcting it by deeming it all irrelevant and posting my reads instead, something everyone should be doing. Look at the tense of my section on Foolishness. I am fully aware that he is dead. I am making the argument that we should follow through on his reads because they are credible regardless of his alignment. The sarcasm is wholly unnecessary. You need to go back and reread Foolishness filter. He doesn't 'post one single read', he also says that Velinath is town because he has nothing to hide and that Zelblade should have a run-in with a vig. Show nested quote +On March 21 2012 04:10 Jayjay54 wrote:
I think adam, nisani and blue are all reasonable targets.
I find it interesting, however, that I've jumped to your top 3 scum reads for the reason of 'he doesn't care'. If that is your definition of scum this game, then you've got your work cut out for you, there are plenty of people that fit that bill. I am not one of them.
your election post said that you are willing to put in 12 hours to be a hero. Well, you didn't do anything (maybe some light pressure on lightz yay). You don't post your reads, you say you want to sheep forumite's (Your post is still a little confusing, whatever).
I just think, you play differently this game. And I posted it already on Sunday. The thing is that you post nothing which isn't approved by town. Dirk and Lights are the targets which can be pushed while blending in. If you'd die right now, I probably wouldn't remember a single of you push posts.
Also, It was not all of a sudden. I already called you a vig target yesterday along with Nisani and C_C, bro.
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Few questions here:
@Midnight
+ Show Spoiler +On March 21 2012 06:40 MidnightGladius wrote:
Did anyone else get item-blocked by the Breaker card, or was it just me?
Kita, everyone I've posted about my role has been true. When I said that I had no role abilities and won with the town, that was in the context of people worrying that a PR Wheatley might have to be killed later on if his win-condition changed.
Midnight, can you share with us what you meant by the "item-blocked" thing? Also, what's up with this:
+ Show Spoiler +On March 19 2012 11:59 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 11:43 gonzaw wrote:
@Grack: Please post info about this Lemon Tree.
Did someone give you more lemons? What does the Lemon Tree do (apart I guess from just giving you more lemons)? I'm a 4th party role. I am unlynchable, bullet proof and I win with all possible roles/factions. Once per day/night cycle I must plant a lemon tree. My win condition is that I must collect the entire game's supply of lemons. My only weakness is that I am susceptible to poisoned lemons.... In reality, MidnightGladius said that people looking for lemons should grow a lemon tree... so i grew a lemon tree. It did nothing, and has no meaning. I haven't gotten anymore lemons but it's no big deal... unless of course I was telling the truth about my above role. On March 19 2012 12:12 Grackaroni wrote:
Because MG is masoned with me and has a similar role.
He is trying to collect potatoes.
he just posted the bit about the lemons to make my lemon tree planting seem less suspicious
Anyone trying to get potatoes? grow them.
As far as I can tell, your only response was to call him silly. Did I miss something?
@Kita, from what's been happening, I wouldn't see it bad to lynch Kenpachi. His play is way too erratic and borderline suicidal for a town player (though it doesn't rule out a mostly harmless 3rd party). Can you explain a bit what GMarshall has to do with the planar dragon? Do you assume Kenpachi and Drazerk had a connection because Drazerk checked him and found out he was also 3rd party?
+ Show Spoiler +On March 21 2012 02:58 kitaman27 wrote:
The only reason I can think of Kenpachi having a GMarshal fake claim would be if he is the third party planar dragon. If that is the case, I don't think he should be today's lynch as we already used yesterday to eliminate a third party player.
Lastly, after rereading the thread, bluelightz's posting really stands out as strange. He volunteers Wiggles (who, also kinda oddly) completely ignores it, then he keeps pushing it until a nonsensical post by Drazerk that makes him change his mind. After this he sticks to calling out lurkers mostly, targets Kenpachi and lurks from day 2 till now. He has made some suspicious moves but hopefully he can come explain himself. Otherwise I see him as valid lynch.
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I would agree with Wiggles that Kenpachi is probably 3rd party but we could save him for another day.
Kenpachi doesn't have towns interest in mind. All he cares about is whether people vote GlaDOS. He shows this by giving Drazerk, A confirmed non-town player, an item instead of giving it to town.
Just don't vote GlaDOS; I don't trust him.
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On March 21 2012 07:48 Jayjay54 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2012 07:34 Adam4167 wrote:I care here. I am posting my reads. I just do not feel the need to contribute in discussion that I deem pointless. I don't enjoy reading a 10 page filter, and I doubt anyone else would want to read mine if it got that large, either. I am not 'refusing to correct it', I am correcting it by deeming it all irrelevant and posting my reads instead, something everyone should be doing. Look at the tense of my section on Foolishness. I am fully aware that he is dead. I am making the argument that we should follow through on his reads because they are credible regardless of his alignment. The sarcasm is wholly unnecessary. You need to go back and reread Foolishness filter. He doesn't 'post one single read', he also says that Velinath is town because he has nothing to hide and that Zelblade should have a run-in with a vig. On March 21 2012 04:10 Jayjay54 wrote:
I think adam, nisani and blue are all reasonable targets.
I find it interesting, however, that I've jumped to your top 3 scum reads for the reason of 'he doesn't care'. If that is your definition of scum this game, then you've got your work cut out for you, there are plenty of people that fit that bill. I am not one of them. your election post said that you are willing to put in 12 hours to be a hero. Well, you didn't do anything (maybe some light pressure on lightz yay). You don't post your reads, you say you want to sheep forumite's (Your post is still a little confusing, whatever). I just think, you play differently this game. And I posted it already on Sunday. The thing is that you post nothing which isn't approved by town. Dirk and Lights are the targets which can be pushed while blending in. If you'd die right now, I probably wouldn't remember a single of you push posts. Also, It was not all of a sudden. I already called you a vig target yesterday along with Nisani and C_C, bro.
I am still willing to put in 12 hours a day, just not discussing pointless shit. I posted my small read on Dirk, and it was only small because his filter is tiny and there is zero substance in it. I've asked him for more content, which is yet to materialize, so I can make a better call. I say I want to sheep Foolishness, for good reasons, reasons I have outlined.
I post whatever I feel is right. If that happens to be town consensus, then I guess town is actually playing smart for once.
I never said your read on me happened 'all of a sudden', I was attacking the reasoning, saying it applied to a majority of the players in this game.
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On March 21 2012 07:57 Grackaroni wrote:
I would agree with Wiggles that Kenpachi is probably 3rd party but we could save him for another day.
Kenpachi doesn't have towns interest in mind. All he cares about is whether people vote GlaDOS. He shows this by giving Drazerk, A confirmed non-town player, an item instead of giving it to town.
Just don't vote GlaDOS; I don't trust him.
well why would he claim third party, if he wasn't?
I mean it's possible, but why put yourself into the spotlight this much...
for those who missed it:
On March 17 2012 15:51 Kenpachi wrote:BH lets be assholes together. we will conquer town with the self proclaimed 3rd party Blazing Kenpachi Party. our motto would be familiar to the Italian guy you know and love ![[image loading]](http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/09/07/article-0-0065890C00000258-317_233x363.jpg) Me ne fregoOur Win condition? we win with town
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On March 21 2012 08:09 Adam4167 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2012 07:48 Jayjay54 wrote:On March 21 2012 07:34 Adam4167 wrote:I care here. I am posting my reads. I just do not feel the need to contribute in discussion that I deem pointless. I don't enjoy reading a 10 page filter, and I doubt anyone else would want to read mine if it got that large, either. I am not 'refusing to correct it', I am correcting it by deeming it all irrelevant and posting my reads instead, something everyone should be doing. Look at the tense of my section on Foolishness. I am fully aware that he is dead. I am making the argument that we should follow through on his reads because they are credible regardless of his alignment. The sarcasm is wholly unnecessary. You need to go back and reread Foolishness filter. He doesn't 'post one single read', he also says that Velinath is town because he has nothing to hide and that Zelblade should have a run-in with a vig. On March 21 2012 04:10 Jayjay54 wrote:
I think adam, nisani and blue are all reasonable targets.
I find it interesting, however, that I've jumped to your top 3 scum reads for the reason of 'he doesn't care'. If that is your definition of scum this game, then you've got your work cut out for you, there are plenty of people that fit that bill. I am not one of them. your election post said that you are willing to put in 12 hours to be a hero. Well, you didn't do anything (maybe some light pressure on lightz yay). You don't post your reads, you say you want to sheep forumite's (Your post is still a little confusing, whatever). I just think, you play differently this game. And I posted it already on Sunday. The thing is that you post nothing which isn't approved by town. Dirk and Lights are the targets which can be pushed while blending in. If you'd die right now, I probably wouldn't remember a single of you push posts. Also, It was not all of a sudden. I already called you a vig target yesterday along with Nisani and C_C, bro. I am still willing to put in 12 hours a day, just not discussing pointless shit. I posted my small read on Dirk, and it was only small because his filter is tiny and there is zero substance in it. I've asked him for more content, which is yet to materialize, so I can make a better call. I say I want to sheep Foolishness, for good reasons, reasons I have outlined. I post whatever I feel is right. If that happens to be town consensus, then I guess town is actually playing smart for once. I never said your read on me happened 'all of a sudden', I was attacking the reasoning, saying it applied to a majority of the players in this game.
The difference between you and some other lurkers is, that I have seen you play a solid game in AC. This time you don't. I can as easily ask you why dirk above all lurkers. He has at least two posts where he states stuff which isn't popular at that time, even though it might be wrong. he was the second to vote draz, this fluff post had actual relevance at that point. And his concerns about foolishness were valid as well. You on the other hand (again) have not posted a single post actually contributing IMO.
BTW: The same applies to Nisani (who had a horrific "defense" as well, while you to your point actually are in here and talk to me)
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@JJ: I'm pretty sure that Kenpachi is third party, and I have no reason to believe that he doesn't win with town. I would suspect that he's something like the Batman role from Arkham, where he can leave early if GLaDOS dies or something.
And now, I'm very hungry and a little drunk. (Celebrating the fact that my stats prof clearly thinks I know more about stats than I do based on my grade in the course. She must have screwed something up. Seriously.) Time for dinner.
@lanaia: I really want to know who you think is scum. Hard mode: Answer anyone other than Dirk.
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On March 21 2012 08:17 Jayjay54 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2012 08:09 Adam4167 wrote:On March 21 2012 07:48 Jayjay54 wrote:On March 21 2012 07:34 Adam4167 wrote:I care here. I am posting my reads. I just do not feel the need to contribute in discussion that I deem pointless. I don't enjoy reading a 10 page filter, and I doubt anyone else would want to read mine if it got that large, either. I am not 'refusing to correct it', I am correcting it by deeming it all irrelevant and posting my reads instead, something everyone should be doing. Look at the tense of my section on Foolishness. I am fully aware that he is dead. I am making the argument that we should follow through on his reads because they are credible regardless of his alignment. The sarcasm is wholly unnecessary. You need to go back and reread Foolishness filter. He doesn't 'post one single read', he also says that Velinath is town because he has nothing to hide and that Zelblade should have a run-in with a vig. On March 21 2012 04:10 Jayjay54 wrote:
I think adam, nisani and blue are all reasonable targets.
I find it interesting, however, that I've jumped to your top 3 scum reads for the reason of 'he doesn't care'. If that is your definition of scum this game, then you've got your work cut out for you, there are plenty of people that fit that bill. I am not one of them. your election post said that you are willing to put in 12 hours to be a hero. Well, you didn't do anything (maybe some light pressure on lightz yay). You don't post your reads, you say you want to sheep forumite's (Your post is still a little confusing, whatever). I just think, you play differently this game. And I posted it already on Sunday. The thing is that you post nothing which isn't approved by town. Dirk and Lights are the targets which can be pushed while blending in. If you'd die right now, I probably wouldn't remember a single of you push posts. Also, It was not all of a sudden. I already called you a vig target yesterday along with Nisani and C_C, bro. I am still willing to put in 12 hours a day, just not discussing pointless shit. I posted my small read on Dirk, and it was only small because his filter is tiny and there is zero substance in it. I've asked him for more content, which is yet to materialize, so I can make a better call. I say I want to sheep Foolishness, for good reasons, reasons I have outlined. I post whatever I feel is right. If that happens to be town consensus, then I guess town is actually playing smart for once. I never said your read on me happened 'all of a sudden', I was attacking the reasoning, saying it applied to a majority of the players in this game. The difference between you and some other lurkers is, that I have seen you play a solid game in AC. This time you don't. I can as easily ask you why dirk above all lurkers. He has at least two posts where he states stuff which isn't popular at that time, even though it might be wrong. he was the second to vote draz, this fluff post had actual relevance at that point. And his concerns about foolishness were valid as well. You on the other hand (again) have not posted a single post actually contributing IMO. BTW: The same applies to Nisani (who had a horrific "defense" as well, while you to your point actually are in here and talk to me)
I am not targeting Dirk because he is a lurker, nor do I use that word to describe him once. I am targeting him because he has a filter with zero content, his first post was waffly and his post aimed at Grack was not the reaction id expect from a townie.
You seem pretty interested in discrediting anything I say. Why is that?
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On March 21 2012 08:31 Adam4167 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2012 08:17 Jayjay54 wrote:On March 21 2012 08:09 Adam4167 wrote:On March 21 2012 07:48 Jayjay54 wrote:On March 21 2012 07:34 Adam4167 wrote:I care here. I am posting my reads. I just do not feel the need to contribute in discussion that I deem pointless. I don't enjoy reading a 10 page filter, and I doubt anyone else would want to read mine if it got that large, either. I am not 'refusing to correct it', I am correcting it by deeming it all irrelevant and posting my reads instead, something everyone should be doing. Look at the tense of my section on Foolishness. I am fully aware that he is dead. I am making the argument that we should follow through on his reads because they are credible regardless of his alignment. The sarcasm is wholly unnecessary. You need to go back and reread Foolishness filter. He doesn't 'post one single read', he also says that Velinath is town because he has nothing to hide and that Zelblade should have a run-in with a vig. On March 21 2012 04:10 Jayjay54 wrote:
I think adam, nisani and blue are all reasonable targets.
I find it interesting, however, that I've jumped to your top 3 scum reads for the reason of 'he doesn't care'. If that is your definition of scum this game, then you've got your work cut out for you, there are plenty of people that fit that bill. I am not one of them. your election post said that you are willing to put in 12 hours to be a hero. Well, you didn't do anything (maybe some light pressure on lightz yay). You don't post your reads, you say you want to sheep forumite's (Your post is still a little confusing, whatever). I just think, you play differently this game. And I posted it already on Sunday. The thing is that you post nothing which isn't approved by town. Dirk and Lights are the targets which can be pushed while blending in. If you'd die right now, I probably wouldn't remember a single of you push posts. Also, It was not all of a sudden. I already called you a vig target yesterday along with Nisani and C_C, bro. I am still willing to put in 12 hours a day, just not discussing pointless shit. I posted my small read on Dirk, and it was only small because his filter is tiny and there is zero substance in it. I've asked him for more content, which is yet to materialize, so I can make a better call. I say I want to sheep Foolishness, for good reasons, reasons I have outlined. I post whatever I feel is right. If that happens to be town consensus, then I guess town is actually playing smart for once. I never said your read on me happened 'all of a sudden', I was attacking the reasoning, saying it applied to a majority of the players in this game. The difference between you and some other lurkers is, that I have seen you play a solid game in AC. This time you don't. I can as easily ask you why dirk above all lurkers. He has at least two posts where he states stuff which isn't popular at that time, even though it might be wrong. he was the second to vote draz, this fluff post had actual relevance at that point. And his concerns about foolishness were valid as well. You on the other hand (again) have not posted a single post actually contributing IMO. BTW: The same applies to Nisani (who had a horrific "defense" as well, while you to your point actually are in here and talk to me) I am not targeting Dirk because he is a lurker, nor do I use that word to describe him once. I am targeting him because he has a filter with zero content, his first post was waffly and his post aimed at Grack was not the reaction id expect from a townie. You seem pretty interested in discrediting anything I say. Why is that?
I discredited anyone who sheeped that foolishness dirk push. But I repeat myself here. Let's stop this now, it's getting town nowhere...
Give me
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... more content posts the next days...
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On March 21 2012 08:37 Jayjay54 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2012 08:31 Adam4167 wrote:On March 21 2012 08:17 Jayjay54 wrote:On March 21 2012 08:09 Adam4167 wrote:On March 21 2012 07:48 Jayjay54 wrote:On March 21 2012 07:34 Adam4167 wrote:I care here. I am posting my reads. I just do not feel the need to contribute in discussion that I deem pointless. I don't enjoy reading a 10 page filter, and I doubt anyone else would want to read mine if it got that large, either. I am not 'refusing to correct it', I am correcting it by deeming it all irrelevant and posting my reads instead, something everyone should be doing. Look at the tense of my section on Foolishness. I am fully aware that he is dead. I am making the argument that we should follow through on his reads because they are credible regardless of his alignment. The sarcasm is wholly unnecessary. You need to go back and reread Foolishness filter. He doesn't 'post one single read', he also says that Velinath is town because he has nothing to hide and that Zelblade should have a run-in with a vig. On March 21 2012 04:10 Jayjay54 wrote:
I think adam, nisani and blue are all reasonable targets.
I find it interesting, however, that I've jumped to your top 3 scum reads for the reason of 'he doesn't care'. If that is your definition of scum this game, then you've got your work cut out for you, there are plenty of people that fit that bill. I am not one of them. your election post said that you are willing to put in 12 hours to be a hero. Well, you didn't do anything (maybe some light pressure on lightz yay). You don't post your reads, you say you want to sheep forumite's (Your post is still a little confusing, whatever). I just think, you play differently this game. And I posted it already on Sunday. The thing is that you post nothing which isn't approved by town. Dirk and Lights are the targets which can be pushed while blending in. If you'd die right now, I probably wouldn't remember a single of you push posts. Also, It was not all of a sudden. I already called you a vig target yesterday along with Nisani and C_C, bro. I am still willing to put in 12 hours a day, just not discussing pointless shit. I posted my small read on Dirk, and it was only small because his filter is tiny and there is zero substance in it. I've asked him for more content, which is yet to materialize, so I can make a better call. I say I want to sheep Foolishness, for good reasons, reasons I have outlined. I post whatever I feel is right. If that happens to be town consensus, then I guess town is actually playing smart for once. I never said your read on me happened 'all of a sudden', I was attacking the reasoning, saying it applied to a majority of the players in this game. The difference between you and some other lurkers is, that I have seen you play a solid game in AC. This time you don't. I can as easily ask you why dirk above all lurkers. He has at least two posts where he states stuff which isn't popular at that time, even though it might be wrong. he was the second to vote draz, this fluff post had actual relevance at that point. And his concerns about foolishness were valid as well. You on the other hand (again) have not posted a single post actually contributing IMO. BTW: The same applies to Nisani (who had a horrific "defense" as well, while you to your point actually are in here and talk to me) I am not targeting Dirk because he is a lurker, nor do I use that word to describe him once. I am targeting him because he has a filter with zero content, his first post was waffly and his post aimed at Grack was not the reaction id expect from a townie. You seem pretty interested in discrediting anything I say. Why is that? I discredited anyone who sheeped that foolishness dirk push. But I repeat myself here. Let's stop this now, it's getting town nowhere... Give me
What makes you think that people who voted for dirk are scummy? Why are you convinced he is town?
Drazerk was an obvious liar with no teammates; I don't see why scum wouldn't want to sheep that vote.
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On March 21 2012 08:41 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2012 08:37 Jayjay54 wrote:On March 21 2012 08:31 Adam4167 wrote:On March 21 2012 08:17 Jayjay54 wrote:On March 21 2012 08:09 Adam4167 wrote:On March 21 2012 07:48 Jayjay54 wrote:On March 21 2012 07:34 Adam4167 wrote:I care here. I am posting my reads. I just do not feel the need to contribute in discussion that I deem pointless. I don't enjoy reading a 10 page filter, and I doubt anyone else would want to read mine if it got that large, either. I am not 'refusing to correct it', I am correcting it by deeming it all irrelevant and posting my reads instead, something everyone should be doing. Look at the tense of my section on Foolishness. I am fully aware that he is dead. I am making the argument that we should follow through on his reads because they are credible regardless of his alignment. The sarcasm is wholly unnecessary. You need to go back and reread Foolishness filter. He doesn't 'post one single read', he also says that Velinath is town because he has nothing to hide and that Zelblade should have a run-in with a vig. On March 21 2012 04:10 Jayjay54 wrote:
I think adam, nisani and blue are all reasonable targets.
I find it interesting, however, that I've jumped to your top 3 scum reads for the reason of 'he doesn't care'. If that is your definition of scum this game, then you've got your work cut out for you, there are plenty of people that fit that bill. I am not one of them. your election post said that you are willing to put in 12 hours to be a hero. Well, you didn't do anything (maybe some light pressure on lightz yay). You don't post your reads, you say you want to sheep forumite's (Your post is still a little confusing, whatever). I just think, you play differently this game. And I posted it already on Sunday. The thing is that you post nothing which isn't approved by town. Dirk and Lights are the targets which can be pushed while blending in. If you'd die right now, I probably wouldn't remember a single of you push posts. Also, It was not all of a sudden. I already called you a vig target yesterday along with Nisani and C_C, bro. I am still willing to put in 12 hours a day, just not discussing pointless shit. I posted my small read on Dirk, and it was only small because his filter is tiny and there is zero substance in it. I've asked him for more content, which is yet to materialize, so I can make a better call. I say I want to sheep Foolishness, for good reasons, reasons I have outlined. I post whatever I feel is right. If that happens to be town consensus, then I guess town is actually playing smart for once. I never said your read on me happened 'all of a sudden', I was attacking the reasoning, saying it applied to a majority of the players in this game. The difference between you and some other lurkers is, that I have seen you play a solid game in AC. This time you don't. I can as easily ask you why dirk above all lurkers. He has at least two posts where he states stuff which isn't popular at that time, even though it might be wrong. he was the second to vote draz, this fluff post had actual relevance at that point. And his concerns about foolishness were valid as well. You on the other hand (again) have not posted a single post actually contributing IMO. BTW: The same applies to Nisani (who had a horrific "defense" as well, while you to your point actually are in here and talk to me) I am not targeting Dirk because he is a lurker, nor do I use that word to describe him once. I am targeting him because he has a filter with zero content, his first post was waffly and his post aimed at Grack was not the reaction id expect from a townie. You seem pretty interested in discrediting anything I say. Why is that? I discredited anyone who sheeped that foolishness dirk push. But I repeat myself here. Let's stop this now, it's getting town nowhere... Give me What makes you think that people who voted for dirk are scummy? Why are you convinced he is town? Drazerk was an obvious liar with no teammates; I don't see why scum wouldn't want to sheep that vote.
calling people out for sheeping and bad logic <> calling people scum
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and before I get a lot of bullshit for defending dirk.
I defended dirk when I read foolishness case, because it took a post straight out of content.
Now, I am defending him, because I know stuff about his role which is a semi-strong - strong towntell.
So, I personally would like a different lynch choice. Right now, Nisani.
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Jayjay, now that you're here, can you answer my question?
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I now really want to know that you know about his role. His filter doesn't say much.
And I will leave this here:
On March 20 2012 04:19 Dirk Hardpec wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2012 04:10 Jayjay54 wrote:On March 20 2012 04:08 Dirk Hardpec wrote:
Here's the deal. I'm reading now that Grackaroni intends to shoot me tonight.
When I flip town, do NOT let him get away with it. There is absolutely no excuse for taking a shot at a townie in this situation, especially someone like me who is at least trying to keep the discussion moving.
Depending on how Grackaroni plays this out we should probably lynch him anyway. I understand that I was unavailable over the weekend and with a low amount of posts I'm an easy target to go for, but I think that now I've proven I can be an asset to this town, the fact that he's still thinking about shooting me is pretty incriminating.
I haven't been the model townie, so maybe it requires my flip. But if Grack shoots me, DO NOT LET HIM SHRUG IT OFF. I am not "just a bad townie". I defended you quite a bit, but this post is bad and OMGUS. Why would you assume that Grack is scum, just because he thinks you are? You're not exactly townie. Because it's strictly bad to shoot me tonight. If I die it'll literally be only to kill discussion. I'm one of the few people actively posting.I'm not sure how much longer I'll be around. If I die, please remember what I said about Blazinghand tonight, consider my flip not a confirmation, but a strong indicator that I'm right and he's town.
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On March 21 2012 07:52 Sbrubbles wrote:Few questions here: @Midnight + Show Spoiler +On March 21 2012 06:40 MidnightGladius wrote:
Did anyone else get item-blocked by the Breaker card, or was it just me?
Kita, everyone I've posted about my role has been true. When I said that I had no role abilities and won with the town, that was in the context of people worrying that a PR Wheatley might have to be killed later on if his win-condition changed.
Midnight, can you share with us what you meant by the "item-blocked" thing? Also, what's up with this:
At the same time that Grey posted the card in the thread, I received a PM from him telling me that my items have been disabled. I was not told the duration of the effect, so it might be 1 day, 1 cycle, or forever. At first I was wondering whether it was a targeted effect or a global effect. Now it's clear that someone targeted me.
/shakes fist
On March 21 2012 07:52 Sbrubbles wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On March 19 2012 11:59 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 11:43 gonzaw wrote:
@Grack: Please post info about this Lemon Tree.
Did someone give you more lemons? What does the Lemon Tree do (apart I guess from just giving you more lemons)? I'm a 4th party role. I am unlynchable, bullet proof and I win with all possible roles/factions. Once per day/night cycle I must plant a lemon tree. My win condition is that I must collect the entire game's supply of lemons. My only weakness is that I am susceptible to poisoned lemons.... In reality, MidnightGladius said that people looking for lemons should grow a lemon tree... so i grew a lemon tree. It did nothing, and has no meaning. I haven't gotten anymore lemons but it's no big deal... unless of course I was telling the truth about my above role. On March 19 2012 12:12 Grackaroni wrote:
Because MG is masoned with me and has a similar role.
He is trying to collect potatoes.
he just posted the bit about the lemons to make my lemon tree planting seem less suspicious
Anyone trying to get potatoes? grow them. As far as I can tell, your only response was to call him silly. Did I miss something?
I made an offhand remark about the lemon trade discussion (telling people they should just grow their own lemons), and Grack tried planting a lemon tree in the thread. Gonzaw then freaked out and started asking him about it, and Grack claimed 4th party lemon tree grower in response. I thought it was an obvious joke, Grack later confirmed that he wasn't serious, and I'll confirm again that I'm not masoned with him, and I win with town, not by collecting potatoes <3
I will support the lynch on Dirk, pending his defense. Anything you can say about his role, JJ, or should we just believe that in good faith? I also wouldn't mind Nisani getting vigged, he responded to my pressure with a bunch of one-liners, and he still hasn't posted any reads..
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