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I suppose it comes down to: (speech marks indicate that i am paraphrasing jaybrundage)
"Hey guys lets talk about LaL" - i detest this the discussion is not productive and it rarely achieves anything
"i shall vote for player as the game starts for no reason" - i may have done this myself, lets just move on
"Hey i think we should share who we PM" - this is dumb pro-mafia sheeping
"Lets be harsh on lurkers and try to make them post by playing like blazinghand" - easy to cause a day1 mislynch which you can avoid responsibilty for, not really helpful
"If somebody you don't trust asks for your role it is okay for you to not give it to them" - this is a redundant point that looks almost like a contribution, but it is not.
"We should also lynch all liars because i was in a game where a player that was quite clearly town lied and was lynched at endgame because nobody trusted him causing town to lose" - he seems very pro policy lynch doesn't he?
"I still think that we should announce our PMs but i am less sure than i was earlier because i am not sure if town are buying this crap"
"lets lynch into this *arbitrary lynch of players yet to post" because by saying we should kill lurkers i can avoiding forcing analysis".
so yeah lets kill Jaybrundage
Vote: jaybrundage
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So he's just bad town? It's Day 1 so it's a bit difficult to differentiate right now and I haven't read a whole lot of filters. I might end up being really busy over the rest of the day so I want to make sure I place a vote now
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On March 12 2012 04:42 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2012 03:13 Caller wrote:On March 12 2012 02:59 Jackal58 wrote:On March 12 2012 02:42 Caller wrote:
i'd just like to say that people who say that we shouldn't lynch people for lying are already thinking about lying. And why would a townie want to lie right now? While their point is valid, they are just running interference for themselves.
gumshoe and jitsu come to mind here. At least one of you is mafia. The other is probably a stupid townie. i say we lynch one of them... after we kill doctor h, of course.
here's why we kill doctor h:
a) doctor h is town
mafia will likely be disorganized this round, so whether or not we kill him this does nothing.
b) doctor h is mafia
we take out mafia and their probable leader.
having played with doctor h numerous times i can tell you that he is a leader type. and if we take out the mafia leader we'd really fuck up the mafia organization and strategy.
tldr: one of jitsu and gumshoe is scum, we should kill doctor h because whether or not he's town or mafia, the worst thing that could happen is that we lose someone who would probably get hit early anyways, whereas at best we would take out somebody that is really essential to a mafia team's strategy. Node Mr. Wiggles Caller Pandain deconduo Replace DocH with any of them. Personal vendetta? i can come up with arbitrary lists too jackal58 jackal58 jackal58 jackal58 jackal58 replace jackal58 with any of them. Any questions? You havne't really procc'd my scummy as fuck trigger yet though. keep going though. as for gumshoe: Jitsu and me could both be town getting pushed into the spotlight or we could both be scum, us being on opposite sides of the field does not say anything about our alignment, jitsu could just be trying to create an ideal town environment and generate discussion and I'm trying to prevent us from forming rock hard policy that can be used against us. so far you've advocated to kill a potential leader(you've said so yourself) and two players who are actively discussing a key note of this particular game(role of pms and honesty), I haven't read any of your old games so I'm not sure if this is what you usually do but I don't think your way is a healthy approach to the game, for instance in your reasoning for lynching doc you only consider him from the perspective that he is a threat, you don't consider the fact that if doc is town he could be of huge aid. Why would you lynch one of our best players because he could be scum?
Also in regard to no lynch vs lynch I really don't want waste our kill point unless theres a really good reason, if we decide right now to no lynch day one the pressure goes off of the mafia and conversation stifles because theres nothing at stake, if we do no lynch it should be a decision we make an hour before the dead line(but not last minute because if we have a suspect that were just about to lynch but we leave alive he will remain a weak point for town that mafia can continuously attack for good reason)
Caller whats your stance on a no lynch vs lynch and a lynch dead line? you're wifoming like shit nobody cares about an "ideal town environment" and "discussion" and "against us" i alerady explained why doctorh should be lynched bro, nash equilibrium look it up and finally i don't give a shit about policy. my job is to find mafia and get them killed. anything else is pointless. It's not an arbitrary list. It's a list of those I would call DocH's equals in ability and leadership. Yet you single out DocH for apparently no reason at all. Or at least a reason that can be applied to those on my "arbitrary" list. Forgive me for saying so but your reasoning is based purely on bullshit. When asked you simply produce more bullshit. You have my vote sir.
Thank you prplhz for playing the part of anvil.
As OMGUS this will seem, I'm bringing up a case against Jackal58 (and to extend slightly, to Mr. Wiggles).
Yes, I freely admit I spread overcharged emotional bullshit. That's how I roll. I expect people to call me out on it. The fact that people didn't call me out sooner is a little concerning but not a huge deal. Did anyone see my reasoning? It was fucking awful.
In doing so though, we see three people respond to me. We have Jackal58, who we'll get to in a bit. We have prplhz, who calls me out on my bullshit reasoning (and my bullshit rebuttal). And then we have Mr. Wiggles, who seems to have nothing important to say. But we'll get to him in a bit as well.
Jackal responds to me in several ways: first by posting a list of random names that he thinks are "good players" and then by suggesting that the only reason I want DoctorH dead is personal vendetta. The second thing he states is
It's not an arbitrary list. It's a list of those I would call DocH's equals in ability and leadership. Yet you single out DocH for apparently no reason at all. Or at least a reason that can be applied to those on my "arbitrary" list. Forgive me for saying so but your reasoning is based purely on bullshit. When asked you simply produce more bullshit.
You have my vote sir.
So instead of just calling me out and saying how I'm being retarded, he instead first brings up a list of random people that he thinks would be lynchable in my shitty circumstance, and then only after prplhz correctly calls me out does he then suddenly decide that this whole idea is full of bullshit and then votes to have me lynched.
Just looking at his previous posts so far gives me the following:
We can only choose 2 people so it's rather limited in scope as far as using PMs to set up anything.
I think we should all be transparent in who we decide we want to PM with. Dissent?
A really, really, shitty idea that has already been debunked by many people.
My advocacy is not set in stone. Hence why I asked for a dissenting viewpoint. The discussion is much better than the typical day 1 LaL/Lurker conversation we've all seen a million times already.
Mr Wiggles - Why state the obvious in your disadvantages? Of course scum know who's town.
He then distances himself from such a shitty "let's give all the information about the townies to the mafia" while praising the ever so useful mafia fallback of "we're trying to have a good discussion," only then to criticize Mr. Wiggles for a totally stupid reason, just to have something to say.
Claiming that scum know who town is is stupid. Of course they know who town is.
Yep that's right, he did the same thing twice, nearly verbatim.
So we have somebody who first
a) "innocously" posts a shitty plan saying we should tell have people leak all of the people that they are pming to which is not only unverifiable but doesn't do anything to stop mafia from doing... anything.
b) Distances himself from a scummy as shit plan, only to try and redirect the criticism at another player for a stupid reason that certainly doesn't promote the "great discussion" that he was advocating.
c) Repeats himself near verbatim just to have something to say.
d) Passive-aggressively makes a post criticizing me, waiting for someone to actually make the legitimate criticism of my terrible posting, and then says "you're full of voteshit I vote you pikachu."
In other words, we have someone playing "Mr. Neutral I promote town but don't look at me look at this otherguy oh wait somebody else is getting called out for being bad TRIGGER BANDWAGON."
Smells like scum to me.
Mr. Wiggles is like Jackal-lite at this point with his love of neutrality and "not-offending anyone." If Jackal turns up red, Mr. Wiggles should definitely be given the good run around-it's pretty common to see mafia have meaningless banter with each other just to get a bit of circlejerk going around.
TLDR: Jackal58 is mafia, I FOS him, if he's red Mr. Wiggles is likely red too.
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On March 12 2012 07:22 layabout wrote:
"Hey i think we should share who we PM" - this is dumb pro-mafia sheeping
"I still think that we should announce our PMs but i am less sure than i was earlier because i am not sure if town are buying this crap"
so yeah lets kill Jaybrundage
Vote: jaybrundage
These two pro-transparency posts lead me to ask you this - what do you think of Mattchew? Look at his filter, his one, concrete opinion is to share who you're PMing. Would this make him scum in your eyes.
On March 11 2012 15:08 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2012 14:50 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On March 11 2012 14:44 Mattchew wrote:
why not sheth... go something to hide? don't wanna slip that you said something to your scum teammate? scum can already PM each other tbh i don't see any reason for scum to hide their PM targets if you can explain why that's something scum would want to do then you should explain how it's scummy if i see a good veteran pm a not so good newbie that will raise an alarm really quickly.
prplhz is my homeboy. coupled with the fact that matt's argument and suspicion has been idiotic thus far, I shall place an
FOS on Mattchew.
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Yea, I don't know about this jaybrundage lynch either.
I don't think Caller is a good lynch either. The guy is being useless but I don't think there's anything particularly scummy about the way he is doing it. Even in the face of a lot of townies disliking him he's not doing anything to stop this and his lynch isn't really facing any resistance either. The only real resistance is the jaybrundage lynch which is quite bad, the guy isn't really acting scummy. He's putting himself out there with tons of dumb ideas and no fear at all and that's pretty townie.
The Caller lynch seems like something that Jackal58 would oppose in his characteristic laconic, passive aggressive manner. Caller is being dumb but he's being blatant about it and there's nothing scummy about that and Jackal58 is usually one of the first to notice stuff like that. The fact that I've been on board the Caller-is-scummy-idea since the beginning seems like something that would make a town Jackal58 think everything over twice. I'm pretty sure he thinks that I'm a horrible player who only does horrible things + Show Spoiler +. Instead he is pushing it in a very meek way with his "forgive me" and "sir".
I think that Jackal58 is scum.
##Vote Jackal58
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LOL IT WAS CALLER
Hahahaha
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VE and Pandain have both been pretty inactive which is unusual.
I don't buy into the case against Jackal to be honest, it seems forced as hell.
he instead first brings up a list of random people that he thinks would be lynchable in my shitty circumstance
He was clearly trying to demonstrate how your logic was flawed and selective, which to be honest was right on point. I'd down with lynching Caller to be honest. This "haha i was fucking with you all along to see how you'd all react!" thing reeks of bullshit to the core. The case on Jackal is forced, he's just playing disruptively.
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I wish you'd waited a bit longer to post a real case to get some more information but I agree with Caller here, albeit for different reasons.
Take a look at how Town Jackal posts:
+ Show Spoiler [Town Jackal] +On February 21 2012 11:42 Jackal58 wrote:
Dear redFF and WBG
You both suck.
Sincerely,
Jackal58 On February 22 2012 04:19 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2012 03:44 layabout wrote:On February 22 2012 02:39 Dirkzor wrote:
I'll give my honest opinion so far...
I can't wrap my head around this game. Right now I not certain of anything and thus is posting meek and useless shit. I know this. Been reading through filters but nothing really stands out to me (other then the stuff i posted earlier). I went to bed just as the games started last night and woke up to 8 pages of mudslinging.
If I had to point at one player to lynch it would be chaoser. His post are just a wee bit to "jumping whoever everyone else think is scum" for me. He seems overly defensAive. Can't make a real case since I'm at work. I honestly cannot beleive that we are a good 20 hours into the game and you have not even found 3+ scum. These excuses are beyond weak, and are far from what i have come to expect from Dirkzor the townie. In other news if anyone has any more shit to fling i would ask that you hold it like a man, or fling it quick so that we can clean ourselves up and catch scum. I am curious about Jackals apparent attempt to "start a bandwagon" by calling toad scum and not elaborating. For me the the town motivation for doing that would be to provoke reactions from players that he could analyse and perhaps find scum. For instance if somebody were to sheep him for no real reason, they would be more likely to be scum (since a townie shouldn't do that but getting away with a sheep vote would be good for mafia). I think that such an action is unnecessary as town but beneficial as Mafia. My problem with this play is that + Show Spoiler +I hate calling people scum for no reason, since it can convince players that people are mafia despite the complete absence of evidence.
It is comparable to publicly announcing your town reads on day1, giving mafia additional reasons to shoot at players that you think are town or exploit your read(s) to manipulate you He could have been trying to get Toad lynched based off of nothing, by attempting to create a dumb bandwagon when the game had barely begun. This is all jackal has done (although we are not far in and he has a tendency to lurk) other than add to the childish bickering/insult hurling so far. People expect me to tunnel on day 1. So why not through some shit against the wall and see what sticks? And I made no attempt to start any thing. I called Toad scum and gave no reasons for it. I never voted him. I never made a case on him. I threw some shit against the wall. Some stuck to redFF. On March 02 2012 09:33 Jackal58 wrote:Didn't realize this had started. Show nested quote +On March 02 2012 09:19 deconduo wrote:On March 02 2012 02:09 Paperscraps wrote:
Probulous is town
Palmar is null
rg is town
deconduo is scum for his horrible reads so far
Vote: deconduo Scumslip much? I might have bad reads, but the only way you could know they were bad is if you're scum. Especially seeing as neither read was about you. On March 02 2012 06:45 Probulous wrote:On March 02 2012 01:18 deconduo wrote:On March 02 2012 01:14 Palmar wrote:
There is nothing wrong with making a list, you guys are insane. Do you want me to show you how often scum make pointless lists in games? Its the most obvious filler you can make, because it a massive important looking post that adds absolutely nothing to the game. On March 02 2012 01:15 Palmar wrote:On March 02 2012 01:14 deconduo wrote:On March 02 2012 01:12 Palmar wrote:
I think that analysis is surprisingly bad deconduo. Why is it so bad? Can you explain that to me? Dunno I'm going through filters so I might be missing the order in which things were posted. I'm just reading the game for the first time now. So you agree it's bad? No, I have no idea why YOU think its bad. Decon, are you seriously saying that my list was the only thing I contributed to this game? Because that is the only way it could be used to drive an agenda. To make it look like I was contributing while actually posting nothing. Well so far I pointed out Pandain's scummy attempt to undermine me, Palmar's "scumslip" (I don't believe it, just needed a response) and I had the discussion with Misder which convinced you he was scum. How can you cast suspicion on me for hiding? It should be clear to everyone that the list was made early game to help people be aware of timezones. That is all. How that is scummy I will never know. I never said the list was the only thing you contributed, I said the complete opposite. The list didn't contribute, which is why I found it scummy. Compared to your other posts it stands out. Everyone who's played mafia before understands that people are in different timezones, and even people in the same country can be on at different times. After Adam posted this: On March 01 2012 12:29 Adam4167 wrote:
3:30am in Iceland and Ireland right now, probably a bit hopeful that Palmar and deconduo are on. The other two may be around, depending on which US states they're in.
Welcome back Misder, second wiggles game for both of us. If you're town again, do you plan on playing out the whole game this time? There was no need for your post, as it added nothing to the game. However your posting since has been good, so I'm not as suspicious of you anymore. I think you are wrong about teacup though. I rarely agree with Decon but when I do we lynch scum. On March 02 2012 10:14 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2012 10:02 deconduo wrote:On March 02 2012 09:53 Jackal58 wrote:On March 02 2012 09:44 Probulous wrote:I have magic powers! I summon a Jackal and here he appears  Seriously though just for clarity's sake, what exactly do you agree with from deconduo? That paperscraps is scum? Yes and also that your location list serves no purpose. And no, sorry, you have no magic powers. What do you think of misder, for a vet his posts have been pretty lacklustre. He's picking a fight over an issue that really has no bearing on the game. I've seen other scum do that before. Choose a side on a LaL or lurker argument and beat it to death. Oh wait, that was you! I'd have no problem lynching either of them. On August 18 2011 04:06 Jackal58 wrote:
My vote is on you Nisani and it's not coming off this time. You can fucking claim to be the goddamned Pope if you want to. On August 18 2011 21:14 Jackal58 wrote:
No mystery at all. The only thing you'll be checking is your shorts. On September 08 2011 10:11 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2011 08:10 sandroba wrote:
Also let's get to posting people, more than half the players in this game are completely inactive. Unfortunatelly we have no info on the setup, so I don't think discussion on roles will take us anywhere as of now. Let me just say that if I think you are good and you start making ridiculous acusations and being unreasonable you will not be excused =P We're trying to read the last 2 pages without having our brains fall out. I have never seen a game start like this before. The first 5 posts contained a vote. The next 10 were a pissing contest between a bunch of 13 year old brats. And it went down hill from there. I wish I was as good as you guys. My first post with any substance to it will be made after I've had another 12 beers. You guys won't make any sense to me until I'm damn near unconscious. On August 14 2011 03:37 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 03:23 Curu wrote:On August 14 2011 03:18 Jackal58 wrote:
I'm town
Well you just cleared whoever has the Bill Murray role as likely Town then. No way a Townie gets a win condition to get a specific Mafia lynched. Possibility that Bill Murray a 3rd Party, but doubtful unless it's a Survivor or something. I have no specific wincon. I win with town. I'm simply compelled to spend all my efforts into getting BM killed. I have no idea what BMs alignment is or what if any wincon he has. He must die though. I had hoped it would be quite some time before he made himself apparent. I don't like this any more than you guys do. But BM must die. Lynch him now.
Compare that to how scum Jackal posts:
+ Show Spoiler [Scum Jackal] +On August 24 2011 02:27 Jackal58 wrote:
I never believe Palmar is a townie. At least not on day 1 or 2. Unless he starts quoting Shakespeare.
So ya Palmar made a joke at my expense. I wouldn't use that as a basis to get him killed. At least not yet anyways. On August 24 2011 06:06 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 05:54 TheFerryman wrote:On August 24 2011 05:47 Jackal58 wrote:
Who are you Smurfing for Ferryman? Lol, not smurfing, I just actually took the time to read the guides and previous games before jumping in and playing a game. What do you think of my accusation of wiggles? Am I off base? If it wasn't Wiggles I'd say you're spot on. But Wiggles is the only one here that I'm aware of that has won a game as the SK before. But I also used this rationale to talk myself into believing Wiggles couldn't be scum once when the scum team was playing like 2 year old kids on Valium. I don't believe Wiggles to be the 3rd party atm. I would say Palmar has more likelihood of that but that isn't saying much right now either. If you're right kudos to you. I'd rather wait a bit and see what develops. If Mr. Wiggles is town he is probably the best player we have. On August 25 2011 08:46 Jackal58 wrote:
If anybody ever accuses me of tunneling again I'm going to bitch slap them.
Ferryman we get it. You think Wiggles is the EH. You may very well be right. Guess what? Right now I don't care about the EH. But you sure as hell do. You are either the psych or scum. I know you have a very good grasp on how this game works. You are also on the opposite end of the brilliance spectrum from
Cyber_cheese. Put your efforts into something other than tunneling your EH suspect. Please.
I'm filtering all of you from most to least interesting so I'm going to be a while. On December 04 2011 23:57 Jackal58 wrote:
Good morning. Role confirmed. Game on.
Random lynch on day 1 seems counterproductive to me. On day anything really. What would you perceive as a benefit to doing that Palmar?
Posting lists right out of the box about players who are likely on the scum team due to the hosts balancing reminds me a bit of Zodiac lists that have been posted in previous games. More often than not those lists were posted by scum. At least in the games I've seen them used in. You scum Palmar?
The only way to 100% establish your innocence is to die. On December 06 2011 09:14 Jackal58 wrote:V7 asked and I'm going to answer. Without having played in at least a dozen or more games with Palmar to date, without using meta as a tool for analysis, I would call Palmar's play so far at best - terrible. But ya I'd see him as scum. I have a history of seeing Palmar as scum. Seems like most games if I'm not busy calling him scum he's busy calling me scum. But his ploy with you today he pulled on me just a couple games ago. However instead of killing some random person I blew him up. So ya I've seen him do this exact same thing before as town. So it is hard for me to call him scum. Show nested quote +On December 06 2011 08:40 Palmar wrote:
Someone is going to notice this sooner or later, so I might as well claim it anyway.
I have an extra vote, (the role name is floridian) that means the anonymous vote that will show up on the voting chart is mine. I don't see any reason as for why I should not claim this role, as an anonymous vote will probably confuse people more than it helps to keep it concealed. Of course that was until he told us he has a vote rigging role. That's a scum role. Palmar,why does a townie have a scum role?
It's a complete difference in tone and style of posting when Jackal is Town vs when he is scum. When he's Town his posts are blindly aggressive, calling out everyone and everything he latches onto as scum whereas when he's scum his posts are much more reasonable, mild, gently probing sort of posts.
The sample size is still very small this game but the cat's out of the bag essentially. It's small things in Jackal's posts that tip it off but things such as "You have my vote sir" really read like scum Jackal.
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lol by the time I compiled all my quotes prplhz posted something along the same lines.
##Vote Jackal58
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Mattchew thinking that we should announce who we are PM-ing is not scummy in of itself. Whilst i think that everyone announcing who they PM would benefit mafia it is not uncommon for people to have different opinions. I think that that is probably the case here. Him pushing that is only scummy if he thinks that what he is doing benefits mafia more than town.
Whilst we could debate the "should we announce our neighbours issue" further, this is the internet, nobody is obliged to admit they are wrong at any point and it is very hard to agree upon a conclusion. Furthermore there is next to no chance of everyone actually following that plan anyway. It has acted as a conversation starter but we need to move away from it and try to minimise how terrible this day1 lynch will inevitably be Lynch Scum!
I am going go read some of callers old games and/or sleep.
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Are you three (Curu, Caller, prplhz) communicating together already? In the space of twenty minutes, all three of you come out with similar cases all on Jackal, and then prplhz thinks the first person was Curu, when it was Caller. Based on the name at the top of the post, and the content of the post, it's pretty hard to mistake what Caller wrote for being Curu. This looks pre-meditated. What gives?
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Don't worry everybody, I've arrived. The game can start now.
I'm reading through, but I can already tell that Caller is going to rub me the wrong way. I see we've moved past the LaL discussion, that's a plus.
At a glance I'd say I'm disinclined to vote Jackal today.
Further details to come. Just letting everyone know I'm here and that I'm lurking hard. Smooches.
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Guess it's just that obvious.
I haven't talked to anyone in PMs yet, no.
This is something I've had on Jackal for a while. My posts that I made in the endgame of a scum Jackal game played in December 2011:
On December 19 2011 09:57 Curu wrote:
@Jackal
Your opening posts were so cautious and careful (whereas you are like super kamikaze man when you are Town) that I was screaming at syllo that you were scum as soon as the game started. I was going to ask him to shoot you but he went with annul instead.
On December 19 2011 13:22 Curu wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2011 13:05 Jackal58 wrote:
Thank you for putting the time and effort into putting this together Incognito. Unlike some of my red brethern I don't feel like we were at any extreme disadvantage. And ya the Annul claim was less than optimal. I believe I asked him "wtf are you thinking" .
A question on your analysis regarding my day 1 play - Am I really that aggressive as town? Yes lol. Do you remember Werewolves? I was so sure you were scum because you had rabid blind aggression towards Nisani who was quite obviously Town. You flipping Town blew my mind. Likewise in Kurumi's game, you were attacking people and pushing them hard. After seeing you attack Palmar so mildly and so timidly in this game I was sure after your first post in this game you were scum.
I wasn't in this game but I talked to syllo (a Vig in the game) and kept telling him to shoot Jackal from his first post. I don't have quite the same level of confidence in the read this game but it's close.
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Caller had written short derpy posts so far and then I just saw a big post with Jackal58 in red and I expected a lot more from Curu. I'm never very confident in anything I do, probably just a character trait, so I got giddy when I saw somebody else agree with me and I didn't read his name properly.
I just thought what you thought too by the way, but think it over.
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On March 12 2012 08:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
Don't worry everybody, I've arrived. The game can start now.
I'm reading through, but I can already tell that Caller is going to rub me the wrong way. I see we've moved past the LaL discussion, that's a plus.
At a glance I'd say I'm disinclined to vote Jackal today.
Further details to come. Just letting everyone know I'm here and that I'm lurking hard. Smooches.
I would call you scum for making these worthless announcements but Storm Mafia is giving me some hesitations. We should have nailed WBG from the start, I laid the foundation 
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On March 12 2012 08:34 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2012 08:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
Don't worry everybody, I've arrived. The game can start now.
I'm reading through, but I can already tell that Caller is going to rub me the wrong way. I see we've moved past the LaL discussion, that's a plus.
At a glance I'd say I'm disinclined to vote Jackal today.
Further details to come. Just letting everyone know I'm here and that I'm lurking hard. Smooches. I would call you scum for making these worthless announcements but Storm Mafia is giving me some hesitations. We should have nailed WBG from the start, I laid the foundation
wait until storm ends before we start talking about it
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I'd like to point out that three people just made a case on the same guy within 30 minutes and that's probably what people should be talking about. I'm going to bed now (actually wanted to postpone my Jackal58 accusations until after I'd slept but I thought that would be a bit too late).
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Why on earth would scum all make the same case on the same guy in the same time and not just defer it to one person? What a stupid thing to call out, it doesn't mean anything it's just a bandwagon. Mr.Wiggles do you really find it that suspicious?
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On March 12 2012 08:39 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Why on earth would scum all make the same case on the same guy in the same time and not just defer it to one person? What a stupid thing to call out, it doesn't mean anything it's just a bandwagon. Mr.Wiggles do you really find it that suspicious?
I read it as prplhz knowing that Curu was going to post something on Jackal, so he just called it out without actually reading the post. Caller could or could not be a part of it. It just looks weird to me.
On March 12 2012 08:33 prplhz wrote:
Caller had written short derpy posts so far and then I just saw a big post with Jackal58 in red and I expected a lot more from Curu. I'm never very confident in anything I do, probably just a character trait, so I got giddy when I saw somebody else agree with me and I didn't read his name properly.
I just thought what you thought too by the way, but think it over.
Ok, so if you read the post, how could you think it was Curu? The whole thing was pretty much about how Jackal's been responding to Caller, and how Caller was making a crappy case for DrH's lynch. There's even parts in it about how you posted about Caller. The whole thing was written in the first person, too. Like I said, it looks weird.
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