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@kitaman27 Why are you just posting a stupid list? Can't you do something instead? wherebugsgo is all "prplhz just claimed scum" and you want to lynch me, yet you're just sitting there doing nothing. I can't reconcile those two facts.
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On February 28 2012 10:44 prplhz wrote:
Can't you do something instead?
You make me smile prpl.
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On February 28 2012 10:39 DoctorHelvetica wrote:VisceraEyes has looked scummy for a long time. His case on WBG is grasping at straws, especially the fact that you're pushing a player Day 3 based on loud posts Day 1? You didn't catch onto his question to syllo then? Here's how scum play often works: Scum 1: I need to push a bandwagon today so X doesn't get lynched Scum 2: WBG has been pretty spammy, changed his mind a lot, etc. he might be an easy candidate Scum 1: Hm, ok I'll make a post about it I'm still reading all the posts here but it seems like VE is criticizing WBG for buddying? Show nested quote +On February 22 2012 14:56 VisceraEyes wrote:
DocH I'm intrigued by your ideas and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. Also this: Show nested quote +On February 22 2012 16:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
That was dangerously close to role-fishing syllo - the existance of one town-tracker doesn't preclude a second town-tracker. Am I missing something? "Role fishing" imo is one of those things that scum accuses other townies of doing it's supposed to be "Scummy" but in 5 or 6 games as scum I have never really done it or known any teammates to do it either, except in PM games where it's pretty easy and often town roles have a lot of incentive to rolefish Show nested quote +On February 22 2012 15:55 VisceraEyes wrote:
And BC is your strongest read right now Syllo? Like, without question?
Did you ever get around to looking at the whole WBG/chaoser thing sir? I feel like that exchange means something. chaoser's defense was solid, but I didn't mind WBG's attack either.
However, chaoser still seems to be interested in finding scum, while WBG has only recently been calling red scum...he's been tunneled in on chaoser ever since that argument.
I'm starting to get a red read on WBG. Is this really that different than what WBG did?
It's cool Doc - join the VE wagon of failure then. If you can't see a marked difference in the vaguery that WBG asked Syllo and my questions to others in the game then I can't help you. He's scummily trying to skate by doing jack shit, and he deserves the rope today. If you think I fit that bill better, then you should vote for me.
In fact, fuck it. Everyone should just vote for me and get it over with. I'm willing to admit that I could be wrong about WBG, but I'm certainly not wrong about myself - I'm town. If me dying clears up any confusion regarding WBG, then lynch the fuck out of me and then lynch the fuck out of WBG. I'm not defending myself when I'm doing everything I can to get scum lynched right now. No time.
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I'm not voting for you VE, I just said that. I just want you to respond to my post and if you are being reasonable about it I should see that. You don't need to get emotional about this.
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I'm actively encouraging town to not vote for you so why don't you relax
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On February 28 2012 10:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2012 10:41 Toadesstern wrote:On February 28 2012 10:16 Toadesstern wrote:On February 28 2012 10:14 wherebugsgo wrote:On February 28 2012 10:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
I didn't say I'd lynch you for claiming - I'll lynch you regardless. I said TOWN would lynch you for claiming - which as you've pointed out, has a pretty decent track-record. you need more than one scumbuddy to lynch me. why should mafia VE come in here and push you instead of just joining the Toad-wagon? That's a really important point I made and I'm going to bring it up again: The logical conclusion for a townie in wbg's position would be: Mafia would not try to get another wagon but unless Toad is mafia himself, therefore it's either Toad + VE mafia and VE is trying to rescue him or it's ONLY Toad mafia + a confused townie VE who joined the wrong side. OR both are townies. However, VE being mafia is while I am a townie is the most retarded thing ever. VE could hve easily joined the Toad-wagon and he did not. So now one might ask why isn't wbg asking himself those questions? I'd consider those things pretty important if I were confused about 4 people and can't figure out which of those 4 are mafia. I guess by now you guys already figured out what the funny thing about this all is: Wbg isn't asking these questions because he doesn't need to. He's not asking those questions because they are pointless and lead to absolutely no conclusion whatsoever I'm not surprised you'd concoct a defense of VE based on shaky WIFOM
wat? That question PROVES I am mafia if he really thinks the way he does. IT PROVES I AM MAFIA OR NONE OF THE GUYS HE WANTS TO LYNCH IS MAFIA.
How is that pointless? He said he can deliver you 3/3 mafia if we lynch into VE / RoL / ME.
VE is a confirmed townie for me right now because of what I said (that' not bad either, is it?) so 1 is wrong. I am wrong as well but instead of telling people "well that proves toad is mafia" he goes on to pressure prpl? The fuck?
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On February 28 2012 10:41 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2012 10:16 Toadesstern wrote:On February 28 2012 10:14 wherebugsgo wrote:On February 28 2012 10:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
I didn't say I'd lynch you for claiming - I'll lynch you regardless. I said TOWN would lynch you for claiming - which as you've pointed out, has a pretty decent track-record. you need more than one scumbuddy to lynch me. why should mafia VE come in here and push you instead of just joining the Toad-wagon? That's a really important point I made and I'm going to bring it up again: The logical conclusion for a townie in wbg's position would be: Mafia would not try to get another wagon but unless Toad is mafia himself, therefore it's either Toad + VE mafia and VE is trying to rescue him or it's ONLY Toad mafia + a confused townie VE who joined the wrong side. OR both are townies. However, VE being mafia is while I am a townie is the most retarded thing ever. VE could hve easily joined the Toad-wagon and he did not. So now one might ask why isn't wbg asking himself those questions? I'd consider those things pretty important if I were confused about 4 people and can't figure out which of those 4 are mafia. I guess by now you guys already figured out what the funny thing about this all is: Wbg isn't asking these questions because he doesn't need to.
what the fuck is the point of asking any of that
you can go mindfuck yourself some more since you clearly have no idea what you're talking about
On February 28 2012 10:45 kitaman27 wrote:You make me smile prpl.
you need to step up and contribute.
You are almost 100% confirmed to me but you are doing nothing. Please. Do. Something.
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On February 28 2012 10:47 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I'm not voting for you VE, I just said that. I just want you to respond to my post and if you are being reasonable about it I should see that. You don't need to get emotional about this.
I'm working on it - sorry, WBG comes on strong and you've been pushy this game. Give me a minute.
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@VisceraEyes What does your flip and wherebugsgo's alignment have to do with each other? Martyring is your scum meta. Why do you think that wherebugsgo is scum over some stupid question he asked someone, it was like 5 words there's nothing you can read into that. He wanted to know somebody's opinion and that's kinda cool I think, shows that he cares.
On February 28 2012 10:45 kitaman27 wrote:You make me smile prpl.
You don't make me smile as much as you usually do. You want to lynch me, there are people around who want to lynch me, why are you not pushing me? This is relevant to my interests.
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On February 28 2012 10:48 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2012 10:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On February 28 2012 10:41 Toadesstern wrote:On February 28 2012 10:16 Toadesstern wrote:On February 28 2012 10:14 wherebugsgo wrote:On February 28 2012 10:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
I didn't say I'd lynch you for claiming - I'll lynch you regardless. I said TOWN would lynch you for claiming - which as you've pointed out, has a pretty decent track-record. you need more than one scumbuddy to lynch me. why should mafia VE come in here and push you instead of just joining the Toad-wagon? That's a really important point I made and I'm going to bring it up again: The logical conclusion for a townie in wbg's position would be: Mafia would not try to get another wagon but unless Toad is mafia himself, therefore it's either Toad + VE mafia and VE is trying to rescue him or it's ONLY Toad mafia + a confused townie VE who joined the wrong side. OR both are townies. However, VE being mafia is while I am a townie is the most retarded thing ever. VE could hve easily joined the Toad-wagon and he did not. So now one might ask why isn't wbg asking himself those questions? I'd consider those things pretty important if I were confused about 4 people and can't figure out which of those 4 are mafia. I guess by now you guys already figured out what the funny thing about this all is: Wbg isn't asking these questions because he doesn't need to. He's not asking those questions because they are pointless and lead to absolutely no conclusion whatsoever I'm not surprised you'd concoct a defense of VE based on shaky WIFOM wat? That question PROVES I am mafia if he really thinks the way he does. IT PROVES I AM MAFIA OR NONE OF THE GUYS HE WANTS TO LYNCH IS MAFIA. How is that pointless? He said he can deliver you 3/3 mafia if we lynch into VE / RoL / ME. VE is a confirmed townie for me right now because of what I said (that' not bad either, is it?) so 1 is wrong. I am wrong as well but instead of telling people "well that proves toad is mafia" he goes on to pressure prpl? The fuck?
VE voting for you or not is not indicative of your or his alignment no matter what you flip
It, in fact, proves absolutely nothing
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On February 28 2012 10:48 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2012 10:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On February 28 2012 10:41 Toadesstern wrote:On February 28 2012 10:16 Toadesstern wrote:On February 28 2012 10:14 wherebugsgo wrote:On February 28 2012 10:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
I didn't say I'd lynch you for claiming - I'll lynch you regardless. I said TOWN would lynch you for claiming - which as you've pointed out, has a pretty decent track-record. you need more than one scumbuddy to lynch me. why should mafia VE come in here and push you instead of just joining the Toad-wagon? That's a really important point I made and I'm going to bring it up again: The logical conclusion for a townie in wbg's position would be: Mafia would not try to get another wagon but unless Toad is mafia himself, therefore it's either Toad + VE mafia and VE is trying to rescue him or it's ONLY Toad mafia + a confused townie VE who joined the wrong side. OR both are townies. However, VE being mafia is while I am a townie is the most retarded thing ever. VE could hve easily joined the Toad-wagon and he did not. So now one might ask why isn't wbg asking himself those questions? I'd consider those things pretty important if I were confused about 4 people and can't figure out which of those 4 are mafia. I guess by now you guys already figured out what the funny thing about this all is: Wbg isn't asking these questions because he doesn't need to. He's not asking those questions because they are pointless and lead to absolutely no conclusion whatsoever I'm not surprised you'd concoct a defense of VE based on shaky WIFOM wat? That question PROVES I am mafia if he really thinks the way he does. IT PROVES I AM MAFIA OR NONE OF THE GUYS HE WANTS TO LYNCH IS MAFIA. How is that pointless? He said he can deliver you 3/3 mafia if we lynch into VE / RoL / ME. VE is a confirmed townie for me right now because of what I said (that' not bad either, is it?) so 1 is wrong. I am wrong as well but instead of telling people "well that proves toad is mafia" he goes on to pressure prpl? The fuck?
no, it doesn't prove anything.
It's complete WIFOM because I have no fucking clue what the mafia would do in this situation.
The fact that you're insinuating that I could actually find out the answers to those questions makes you look redder.
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On February 28 2012 10:50 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2012 10:48 Toadesstern wrote:On February 28 2012 10:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On February 28 2012 10:41 Toadesstern wrote:On February 28 2012 10:16 Toadesstern wrote:On February 28 2012 10:14 wherebugsgo wrote:On February 28 2012 10:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
I didn't say I'd lynch you for claiming - I'll lynch you regardless. I said TOWN would lynch you for claiming - which as you've pointed out, has a pretty decent track-record. you need more than one scumbuddy to lynch me. why should mafia VE come in here and push you instead of just joining the Toad-wagon? That's a really important point I made and I'm going to bring it up again: The logical conclusion for a townie in wbg's position would be: Mafia would not try to get another wagon but unless Toad is mafia himself, therefore it's either Toad + VE mafia and VE is trying to rescue him or it's ONLY Toad mafia + a confused townie VE who joined the wrong side. OR both are townies. However, VE being mafia is while I am a townie is the most retarded thing ever. VE could hve easily joined the Toad-wagon and he did not. So now one might ask why isn't wbg asking himself those questions? I'd consider those things pretty important if I were confused about 4 people and can't figure out which of those 4 are mafia. I guess by now you guys already figured out what the funny thing about this all is: Wbg isn't asking these questions because he doesn't need to. He's not asking those questions because they are pointless and lead to absolutely no conclusion whatsoever I'm not surprised you'd concoct a defense of VE based on shaky WIFOM wat? That question PROVES I am mafia if he really thinks the way he does. IT PROVES I AM MAFIA OR NONE OF THE GUYS HE WANTS TO LYNCH IS MAFIA. How is that pointless? He said he can deliver you 3/3 mafia if we lynch into VE / RoL / ME. VE is a confirmed townie for me right now because of what I said (that' not bad either, is it?) so 1 is wrong. I am wrong as well but instead of telling people "well that proves toad is mafia" he goes on to pressure prpl? The fuck? no, it doesn't prove anything. It's complete WIFOM because I have no fucking clue what the mafia would do in this situation.The fact that you're insinuating that I could actually find out the answers to those questions makes you look redder.
It's funny because if I were in VE's spot as mafia and toades was town I wouldn't vote for Toades at all
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On February 28 2012 10:52 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2012 10:50 wherebugsgo wrote:On February 28 2012 10:48 Toadesstern wrote:On February 28 2012 10:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On February 28 2012 10:41 Toadesstern wrote:On February 28 2012 10:16 Toadesstern wrote:On February 28 2012 10:14 wherebugsgo wrote:On February 28 2012 10:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
I didn't say I'd lynch you for claiming - I'll lynch you regardless. I said TOWN would lynch you for claiming - which as you've pointed out, has a pretty decent track-record. you need more than one scumbuddy to lynch me. why should mafia VE come in here and push you instead of just joining the Toad-wagon? That's a really important point I made and I'm going to bring it up again: The logical conclusion for a townie in wbg's position would be: Mafia would not try to get another wagon but unless Toad is mafia himself, therefore it's either Toad + VE mafia and VE is trying to rescue him or it's ONLY Toad mafia + a confused townie VE who joined the wrong side. OR both are townies. However, VE being mafia is while I am a townie is the most retarded thing ever. VE could hve easily joined the Toad-wagon and he did not. So now one might ask why isn't wbg asking himself those questions? I'd consider those things pretty important if I were confused about 4 people and can't figure out which of those 4 are mafia. I guess by now you guys already figured out what the funny thing about this all is: Wbg isn't asking these questions because he doesn't need to. He's not asking those questions because they are pointless and lead to absolutely no conclusion whatsoever I'm not surprised you'd concoct a defense of VE based on shaky WIFOM wat? That question PROVES I am mafia if he really thinks the way he does. IT PROVES I AM MAFIA OR NONE OF THE GUYS HE WANTS TO LYNCH IS MAFIA. How is that pointless? He said he can deliver you 3/3 mafia if we lynch into VE / RoL / ME. VE is a confirmed townie for me right now because of what I said (that' not bad either, is it?) so 1 is wrong. I am wrong as well but instead of telling people "well that proves toad is mafia" he goes on to pressure prpl? The fuck? no, it doesn't prove anything. It's complete WIFOM because I have no fucking clue what the mafia would do in this situation.The fact that you're insinuating that I could actually find out the answers to those questions makes you look redder. It's funny because if I were in VE's spot as mafia and toades was town I wouldn't vote for Toades at all
yes but that's what you would do.
A mafia in that situation can do literally anything he wanted as long as he had the proper justification for it
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On February 28 2012 10:52 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2012 10:50 wherebugsgo wrote:On February 28 2012 10:48 Toadesstern wrote:On February 28 2012 10:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On February 28 2012 10:41 Toadesstern wrote:On February 28 2012 10:16 Toadesstern wrote:On February 28 2012 10:14 wherebugsgo wrote:On February 28 2012 10:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
I didn't say I'd lynch you for claiming - I'll lynch you regardless. I said TOWN would lynch you for claiming - which as you've pointed out, has a pretty decent track-record. you need more than one scumbuddy to lynch me. why should mafia VE come in here and push you instead of just joining the Toad-wagon? That's a really important point I made and I'm going to bring it up again: The logical conclusion for a townie in wbg's position would be: Mafia would not try to get another wagon but unless Toad is mafia himself, therefore it's either Toad + VE mafia and VE is trying to rescue him or it's ONLY Toad mafia + a confused townie VE who joined the wrong side. OR both are townies. However, VE being mafia is while I am a townie is the most retarded thing ever. VE could hve easily joined the Toad-wagon and he did not. So now one might ask why isn't wbg asking himself those questions? I'd consider those things pretty important if I were confused about 4 people and can't figure out which of those 4 are mafia. I guess by now you guys already figured out what the funny thing about this all is: Wbg isn't asking these questions because he doesn't need to. He's not asking those questions because they are pointless and lead to absolutely no conclusion whatsoever I'm not surprised you'd concoct a defense of VE based on shaky WIFOM wat? That question PROVES I am mafia if he really thinks the way he does. IT PROVES I AM MAFIA OR NONE OF THE GUYS HE WANTS TO LYNCH IS MAFIA. How is that pointless? He said he can deliver you 3/3 mafia if we lynch into VE / RoL / ME. VE is a confirmed townie for me right now because of what I said (that' not bad either, is it?) so 1 is wrong. I am wrong as well but instead of telling people "well that proves toad is mafia" he goes on to pressure prpl? The fuck? no, it doesn't prove anything. It's complete WIFOM because I have no fucking clue what the mafia would do in this situation.The fact that you're insinuating that I could actually find out the answers to those questions makes you look redder. It's funny because if I were in VE's spot as mafia and toades was town I wouldn't vote for Toades at all
why not? Why should mafia start a counterwagon and defend me?
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That's why toades point is stupid because he has no way of knowing what any 1 particular scum would act. Scum intentionally obfuscate or make inefficient moves to cause confusion. They will defend townies and attack each other, etc.
I, personally, am a huge fan of early bussing or tunneling my teammates as scum
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On February 28 2012 10:54 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2012 10:52 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On February 28 2012 10:50 wherebugsgo wrote:On February 28 2012 10:48 Toadesstern wrote:On February 28 2012 10:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On February 28 2012 10:41 Toadesstern wrote:On February 28 2012 10:16 Toadesstern wrote:On February 28 2012 10:14 wherebugsgo wrote:On February 28 2012 10:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
I didn't say I'd lynch you for claiming - I'll lynch you regardless. I said TOWN would lynch you for claiming - which as you've pointed out, has a pretty decent track-record. you need more than one scumbuddy to lynch me. why should mafia VE come in here and push you instead of just joining the Toad-wagon? That's a really important point I made and I'm going to bring it up again: The logical conclusion for a townie in wbg's position would be: Mafia would not try to get another wagon but unless Toad is mafia himself, therefore it's either Toad + VE mafia and VE is trying to rescue him or it's ONLY Toad mafia + a confused townie VE who joined the wrong side. OR both are townies. However, VE being mafia is while I am a townie is the most retarded thing ever. VE could hve easily joined the Toad-wagon and he did not. So now one might ask why isn't wbg asking himself those questions? I'd consider those things pretty important if I were confused about 4 people and can't figure out which of those 4 are mafia. I guess by now you guys already figured out what the funny thing about this all is: Wbg isn't asking these questions because he doesn't need to. He's not asking those questions because they are pointless and lead to absolutely no conclusion whatsoever I'm not surprised you'd concoct a defense of VE based on shaky WIFOM wat? That question PROVES I am mafia if he really thinks the way he does. IT PROVES I AM MAFIA OR NONE OF THE GUYS HE WANTS TO LYNCH IS MAFIA. How is that pointless? He said he can deliver you 3/3 mafia if we lynch into VE / RoL / ME. VE is a confirmed townie for me right now because of what I said (that' not bad either, is it?) so 1 is wrong. I am wrong as well but instead of telling people "well that proves toad is mafia" he goes on to pressure prpl? The fuck? no, it doesn't prove anything. It's complete WIFOM because I have no fucking clue what the mafia would do in this situation.The fact that you're insinuating that I could actually find out the answers to those questions makes you look redder. It's funny because if I were in VE's spot as mafia and toades was town I wouldn't vote for Toades at all why not? Why should mafia start a counterwagon and defend me?
why shouldn't they?
now you've delved into the realm of WIFOM; congratulations, you are now helping waste all of our time more efficiently.
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@DoctorHelvetica This isn't another dumb ploy where you're shifting your vote from player X to player Y to pressure them and then switching back to player X because that's who you actually thought was scum all the time? Because that's pretty shabby to do mere hours before deadline. Do you actually have a scum read on anybody here or are you just going to make 50 cases and then never do anything about it?
I don't see why syllogism was fine with wherebugsgo and why he didn't see how any townie would want to lynch DoctorHelvetica. They're both quite good at this game, they're both quite active, they're both surprisingly full of shit.
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On February 28 2012 10:49 wherebugsgo wrote:
you need to step up and contribute.
You are almost 100% confirmed to me but you are doing nothing. Please. Do. Something.
I just spent 2 hours on my power ranking 
Also, I have no idea why I would be confirmed town to you.
On February 28 2012 10:50 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2012 10:45 kitaman27 wrote:On February 28 2012 10:44 prplhz wrote:
Can't you do something instead? You make me smile prpl. You don't make me smile as much as you usually do. You want to lynch me, there are people around who want to lynch me, why are you not pushing me? This is relevant to my interests.
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On February 28 2012 10:54 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2012 10:52 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On February 28 2012 10:50 wherebugsgo wrote:On February 28 2012 10:48 Toadesstern wrote:On February 28 2012 10:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On February 28 2012 10:41 Toadesstern wrote:On February 28 2012 10:16 Toadesstern wrote:On February 28 2012 10:14 wherebugsgo wrote:On February 28 2012 10:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
I didn't say I'd lynch you for claiming - I'll lynch you regardless. I said TOWN would lynch you for claiming - which as you've pointed out, has a pretty decent track-record. you need more than one scumbuddy to lynch me. why should mafia VE come in here and push you instead of just joining the Toad-wagon? That's a really important point I made and I'm going to bring it up again: The logical conclusion for a townie in wbg's position would be: Mafia would not try to get another wagon but unless Toad is mafia himself, therefore it's either Toad + VE mafia and VE is trying to rescue him or it's ONLY Toad mafia + a confused townie VE who joined the wrong side. OR both are townies. However, VE being mafia is while I am a townie is the most retarded thing ever. VE could hve easily joined the Toad-wagon and he did not. So now one might ask why isn't wbg asking himself those questions? I'd consider those things pretty important if I were confused about 4 people and can't figure out which of those 4 are mafia. I guess by now you guys already figured out what the funny thing about this all is: Wbg isn't asking these questions because he doesn't need to. He's not asking those questions because they are pointless and lead to absolutely no conclusion whatsoever I'm not surprised you'd concoct a defense of VE based on shaky WIFOM wat? That question PROVES I am mafia if he really thinks the way he does. IT PROVES I AM MAFIA OR NONE OF THE GUYS HE WANTS TO LYNCH IS MAFIA. How is that pointless? He said he can deliver you 3/3 mafia if we lynch into VE / RoL / ME. VE is a confirmed townie for me right now because of what I said (that' not bad either, is it?) so 1 is wrong. I am wrong as well but instead of telling people "well that proves toad is mafia" he goes on to pressure prpl? The fuck? no, it doesn't prove anything. It's complete WIFOM because I have no fucking clue what the mafia would do in this situation.The fact that you're insinuating that I could actually find out the answers to those questions makes you look redder. It's funny because if I were in VE's spot as mafia and toades was town I wouldn't vote for Toades at all why not? Why should mafia start a counterwagon and defend me?
What if you and WBG are both town?
VE had been pushing WBG since Day 2, it would be weird for him to change his tune suddenly especially when he's in line with what me and Toadesstern are talkng about when he's been opposed to both of us since the last day. you're full of empty scumtells
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On February 28 2012 10:54 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
That's why toades point is stupid because he has no way of knowing what any 1 particular scum would act. Scum intentionally obfuscate or make inefficient moves to cause confusion. They will defend townies and attack each other, etc.
agreed.
However, I don't care atm because it's a waste of time.
Do you think RoL is mafia? prpl? VE?
I assume since you still have your vote on Toad you still think he is scum.
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