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On February 21 2012 11:49 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2012 11:42 Jackal58 wrote: Dear redFF and WBG You both suck. Sincerely, Jackal58 I endorse this statement fully and from the bottom of my heart I thank you for letting me know I am not insane. Why are we debating Policy lynches this early into the day? Seriously? This isn't a game with a player like 2010 bill murray who spams while being a dick, this isn't a game with a mod hating spammer named showtime. Instead we have for the most part a fairly solid crew devoid of spammy trolls. If you want to lynch someone for being bad, wait till they start being bad / scumlike, dont lynch them for shits and giggles. Policy lynching people on retarded reasoning is worse than RNG votes for early discussion. Cut the nonsense out. Anyone who keeps talking about it from this post on be warned. as a side note, VE since you are making moderate sense for the first time ever I have to give you props for impressing me two games in a row.
/salute
What are your thoughts on redFF BC? I'm almost convinced that he's just bad and not scum, but I'd like your thoughts before I act on it.
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On February 21 2012 12:03 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2012 11:59 VisceraEyes wrote:On February 21 2012 11:49 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On February 21 2012 11:42 Jackal58 wrote: Dear redFF and WBG You both suck. Sincerely, Jackal58 I endorse this statement fully and from the bottom of my heart I thank you for letting me know I am not insane. Why are we debating Policy lynches this early into the day? Seriously? This isn't a game with a player like 2010 bill murray who spams while being a dick, this isn't a game with a mod hating spammer named showtime. Instead we have for the most part a fairly solid crew devoid of spammy trolls. If you want to lynch someone for being bad, wait till they start being bad / scumlike, dont lynch them for shits and giggles. Policy lynching people on retarded reasoning is worse than RNG votes for early discussion. Cut the nonsense out. Anyone who keeps talking about it from this post on be warned. as a side note, VE since you are making moderate sense for the first time ever I have to give you props for impressing me two games in a row. /salute What are your thoughts on redFF BC? I'm almost convinced that he's just bad and not scum, but I'd like your thoughts before I act on it. Honestly I think he may be suffering from something like a bat to the back of the head. That or a level of arrogance unseen since showtime. As it stands now short of recommending a terrible idea and being a retarded troll (which is a smiteworthy offense if he keeps it up) I see him more as someone to mock / ignore than take seriously. I know I am moderately guilty of this via my last few posts, however anyone continuing the trend of useless discussion / just trading insults with redff are most likely not playing with town interests in heart. There are a few players already guilty of this obviously. I am currently more intrigued at the people who have let policy discussion run so damn rampant for even this short a duration of a game who (in my mind) should know better.
Come on guy....COME ON. You know what I'm asking. Do you think he's scum?
Also, I thought we were well beyond policy-discussion - I've put forth a scum-candidate and several people have joined the wagon (with little to no reasoning)....and some (and by some I mean WBG) have even gone on to defend him - citing meta resources that point to badTownRedFF. I mean, did you miss all this in reading? Why are you trying to color this all as policy discussion? What's up yo?
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On February 21 2012 12:12 redFF wrote: If i made you think i was town doesn't that make me good town? /food for thought
2 players have been on the 2 major wagons of early day 1, chaoser and kita. Betting there's one scum in there.
You've done nothing this game that has made me think you're town except for the last line of this post. Everything else has been red as fuck to me (no pun intended). I was referring to WBG's quotes from other games when you were, in fact, actually town.
The last line is exonerating enough, however, to earn my
##Unvote redFF
...so at least there's that. Please stop spamming. This is your only warning.
[b]Re: Jackal/[b] DAAAAYYYUUUUMMMM....
Nosrslytho, who's scum guy? I want drunk Jackal's opinion to compare it with sober Jackal's opinion later XD
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On February 21 2012 12:15 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2012 12:09 VisceraEyes wrote:On February 21 2012 12:03 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On February 21 2012 11:59 VisceraEyes wrote:On February 21 2012 11:49 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On February 21 2012 11:42 Jackal58 wrote: Dear redFF and WBG You both suck. Sincerely, Jackal58 I endorse this statement fully and from the bottom of my heart I thank you for letting me know I am not insane. Why are we debating Policy lynches this early into the day? Seriously? This isn't a game with a player like 2010 bill murray who spams while being a dick, this isn't a game with a mod hating spammer named showtime. Instead we have for the most part a fairly solid crew devoid of spammy trolls. If you want to lynch someone for being bad, wait till they start being bad / scumlike, dont lynch them for shits and giggles. Policy lynching people on retarded reasoning is worse than RNG votes for early discussion. Cut the nonsense out. Anyone who keeps talking about it from this post on be warned. as a side note, VE since you are making moderate sense for the first time ever I have to give you props for impressing me two games in a row. /salute What are your thoughts on redFF BC? I'm almost convinced that he's just bad and not scum, but I'd like your thoughts before I act on it. Honestly I think he may be suffering from something like a bat to the back of the head. That or a level of arrogance unseen since showtime. As it stands now short of recommending a terrible idea and being a retarded troll (which is a smiteworthy offense if he keeps it up) I see him more as someone to mock / ignore than take seriously. I know I am moderately guilty of this via my last few posts, however anyone continuing the trend of useless discussion / just trading insults with redff are most likely not playing with town interests in heart. There are a few players already guilty of this obviously. I am currently more intrigued at the people who have let policy discussion run so damn rampant for even this short a duration of a game who (in my mind) should know better. Come on guy....COME ON. You know what I'm asking. Do you think he's scum? Also, I thought we were well beyond policy-discussion - I've put forth a scum-candidate and several people have joined the wagon (with little to no reasoning)....and some (and by some I mean WBG) have even gone on to defend him - citing meta resources that point to badTownRedFF. I mean, did you miss all this in reading? Why are you trying to color this all as policy discussion? What's up yo? its what? 5 hours into the day? I would like to believe redff isn't this horrendous as scum to be caught this quickly. However that is wifom with someone of his experience. The only read I have on him as of now is Bad. Bad town or bad mafia. Hell, I think chaoser is also bad for defending posting town reads as a viable move at this stage in the game. It is only at all useful if people are posting clear scum reads along with clear town reads to make them fully accountable rather than "contributing" without doing much. As for coloring it up to policy discussion, the main point you first raised (I will re-read to see what your entire argument is in exact detail so i stress the first point i saw) was his push on tyrran via policy of being bad. Factor in the mass level of general annoyance with him via his recent behaviour outside of game it is not outside the realms of possibility people are "policy" pushing him based on him being a total wad.
I'm mulling over this post.
The first thing I noticed about it is that it still doesn't answer my question. I mean, yeah. Okay. I get it. It's early in the game. But you don't even have a read on the guy? Regardless of the fact that he has almost 25% of the posts since the game started? I realize that's a gross exaggeration, but you see what I'm getting at - you should have more of a read on him than "bad" in my opinion.
The next thing I noticed is that you respond to my soft accusation of you coloring the discussion surrounding red as 'policy discussion' by boiling down the argument against him I've made to "his push on tyrran via policy is bad". I get that he's kinda a tool outside this thread, but my argument has to do with his actions/decisions in THIS thread. If anyone is voting for him on policy based on his behavior out-of-thread, that's their thing...but that's absolutely not why I'm voting for him, and that's absolutely not what the discussion for the last few pages has been about. Is it possible that people are voting him on policy? Sure I guess. Has that been the subject of discussion, like, ever? Not so much. This is why I said you "colored" the discussion recently as "policy discussion"...because by my estimation, we've been talking about lynching red because he's scum, and you come in and say "why are we still talking about policy-lynch?"
I mean, am I missing something here?
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Blazinghand, what are your thoughts about what's happening between WBG and chaoser right now?
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I'm not sure - I'm trying to figure out if I think they have the same alignments or different alignments based solely on the argument itself.
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WBG do you think chaoser is scum?
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Syllo, glad you could make it. We're here just shootin the shit ya know? Chiggity chattin about who's scum and whatnot.
No one wants to policy-lynch, don't even mention it again. Have you read the thread? Who do you think is scum?
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Syllo what do you think about the back and forth between chaoser and WBG?
It seems genuine, so I doubt it's scum v scum - I can't decide if I think one of them is scum or if they're both town
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Okay, I'm happy lynching into
redFF Dirkzor Tyrran
We need to decide on a lynch and get this shit rollin.
##Vote Dirkzor But I can feasibly switch out anyone from my lynch list. gogo town lynchings!!!
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On February 22 2012 03:39 redFF wrote: Given everything that has happened today, myself Dirkzor and Tyrran are all very safe options. What do you think about kita, toad, and chaoser ve?
chaoser I'm torn on - he almost made my lynch list. However, I came to the conclusion that either one of he and WBG are scum or they're both town based on the argument they had late yesterday.
Kitaman is like...I don't know. Not a good lynch for today. I'm waiting to see a bit more of his play before deciding on Kitaman. I could feasibly be convinced to lynch Toad. I'd have to see some arguments as to why he's a better lynch than, for instance, you.
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Oh, and I could lynch Jackal right now too. XD Thx laya...forgot about the Wily Bowler.
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Fuck I keep forgetting about people.
I'm concerned about prplhz' absence too.
What's your read on layabout red? Why is he better to lynch than, say, chaoser?
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On February 22 2012 04:04 Toadesstern wrote: are you willing to explain and tell me why you want, or at least why you would be okay to lynch me VE?
You've been a nonentity this game. In previous games I've played with you, you've had clearly defined scum reads and I'm not seeing that kind of play here. DocH is right - even if you're apprehensive about your reads (based on your performance in [redacted]), it shouldn't be affecting your day-play. You should still be scumhunting/pointing out inconsistencies/establishing yourself as town. I'm not seeing it this game.
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On February 22 2012 04:04 redFF wrote: I don't really care about chaoser at this stage, haven't paid much attention to him tbh.
Layabout is bad because he berated dirkzor for not finding 3+scum and hasn't stated a read all game.
The fact that you haven't paid much attention to chaoser is....interesting. Wouldn't you say that's interesting syllo?
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That's a hell of a reminder red. Consider yourself off my lynch list.
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I can feasibly get down on a BC lynch. Just sayin.
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Guys - enough bickering.
Can we see a lynch-list from everyone? Mine's trash and I'm going back through the thread now - but I'd like to see a list of dudes you guys are willing to lynch to see if we can make something happen.
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On February 22 2012 06:19 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2012 10:14 VisceraEyes wrote:On February 21 2012 09:59 wherebugsgo wrote: VE stfu you suck
Everyone else sucks marginally less ATM. Mostly chaoser is doing the least sucking.
Blazinghand learn to play
I have to program for a few hours so I'll bbl. Till then I suggest you all brush up on Ver's guide since the last page has made my eyes bleed. Ho boy, this is good play here. GOOD play. Let me count the ways. 1) Throwing out random insults. While I can appreciate the occasional well-deserved jibe, just saying someone "sucks" is...not productive. 2) Buddying up to chaoser. Apparently I suck - but I don't know why and Bugs' post does nothing to explain it. But chaoser is the only one NOT sucking - let's explore that. chaoser was the first one to jump on-board redFF's PL of Tyrran, and besides red himself has been the first one to jump off it as well. Furthermore, chaoser has spent a fair amount of time defending redFF against my accusations by agreeing with him that I am being 'hypocritical'....except, as it turns out this was based on faulty information that stems from APPARENTLY misreading the thread (thinking I said something DocH actually said). So as it turns out, chaoser is doing MORE sucking than several others in-thread already. 3) "I have to program for a few hours so I'll bbl." - WBG I guess this means he wasn't programming before, but is now? So where has he been during all this time? Why not stop by and tell me what a dick I am BEFORE I called him out for not being in-thread yet? Why not come in and defend redFF if my case was so bad last page? Your guess is obviously as good as mine, but I suspect his has something to do with sharing an alignment with a certain someone the last page has been discussing. 4) "...since the last page has made my eyes bleed." - WBG So....I guess he thinks redFF is town or something? Or he just thinks my argument is shit? Or he thinks the last page is some kind of stigmata? I have no idea. He's just tossing doubt around as if he's some kind of authority. Guess what guys - THIS IS HIS FIRST POST. HE HASN'T EARNED THE RIGHT TO CALL ANYONE BAD YET IN THIS GAME BECAUSE HE HASN'T DONE SHIT HIMSELF. 5) (and most importantly) ...... NO U 101 ways to miss the point by VisceraEyes. Show nested quote +On February 21 2012 09:43 VisceraEyes wrote: Ho boy, the thread died fast. That worries me a little, but that could just be paranoia.
chaoser - so by your correction and apology, should I assume that you're no longer agreeing with red's assessment that I'm being a hypocrite?
kitaman27 - what are your thoughts on chaoser?
Jackal, BC, syllo, WBG, you guys care to weigh in on this? I mean, it's early but I'd have expected to hear what an idiot I am at least twice between those 4 players.
Remember this post? He was jesting at what you said lol about him making fun of you. Way to get pious over something you caused.
Oh RoL. Thanks bro. Was that the most important thing you've found in the thread? Me bantering with WBG?
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On February 22 2012 06:39 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2012 06:29 VisceraEyes wrote:On February 22 2012 06:19 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:On February 21 2012 10:14 VisceraEyes wrote:On February 21 2012 09:59 wherebugsgo wrote: VE stfu you suck
Everyone else sucks marginally less ATM. Mostly chaoser is doing the least sucking.
Blazinghand learn to play
I have to program for a few hours so I'll bbl. Till then I suggest you all brush up on Ver's guide since the last page has made my eyes bleed. Ho boy, this is good play here. GOOD play. Let me count the ways. 1) Throwing out random insults. While I can appreciate the occasional well-deserved jibe, just saying someone "sucks" is...not productive. 2) Buddying up to chaoser. Apparently I suck - but I don't know why and Bugs' post does nothing to explain it. But chaoser is the only one NOT sucking - let's explore that. chaoser was the first one to jump on-board redFF's PL of Tyrran, and besides red himself has been the first one to jump off it as well. Furthermore, chaoser has spent a fair amount of time defending redFF against my accusations by agreeing with him that I am being 'hypocritical'....except, as it turns out this was based on faulty information that stems from APPARENTLY misreading the thread (thinking I said something DocH actually said). So as it turns out, chaoser is doing MORE sucking than several others in-thread already. 3) "I have to program for a few hours so I'll bbl." - WBG I guess this means he wasn't programming before, but is now? So where has he been during all this time? Why not stop by and tell me what a dick I am BEFORE I called him out for not being in-thread yet? Why not come in and defend redFF if my case was so bad last page? Your guess is obviously as good as mine, but I suspect his has something to do with sharing an alignment with a certain someone the last page has been discussing. 4) "...since the last page has made my eyes bleed." - WBG So....I guess he thinks redFF is town or something? Or he just thinks my argument is shit? Or he thinks the last page is some kind of stigmata? I have no idea. He's just tossing doubt around as if he's some kind of authority. Guess what guys - THIS IS HIS FIRST POST. HE HASN'T EARNED THE RIGHT TO CALL ANYONE BAD YET IN THIS GAME BECAUSE HE HASN'T DONE SHIT HIMSELF. 5) (and most importantly) ...... NO U 101 ways to miss the point by VisceraEyes. On February 21 2012 09:43 VisceraEyes wrote: Ho boy, the thread died fast. That worries me a little, but that could just be paranoia.
chaoser - so by your correction and apology, should I assume that you're no longer agreeing with red's assessment that I'm being a hypocrite?
kitaman27 - what are your thoughts on chaoser?
Jackal, BC, syllo, WBG, you guys care to weigh in on this? I mean, it's early but I'd have expected to hear what an idiot I am at least twice between those 4 players.
Remember this post? He was jesting at what you said lol about him making fun of you. Way to get pious over something you caused. Oh RoL. Thanks bro. Was that the most important thing you've found in the thread? Me bantering with WBG? Just making an observation d00d, I found it noteworthy. Plus when I was reading it said we were only on page 15, when I posted that it was 19. I thought I had f5ed recently. But hey, care to explain why you created a situation to get indignant in?
Most of that post was about his buddying of chaoser if you'll read it carefully. And I didn't really get indignant, I only pointed out that while WBG was saying I was bad, someone he said was NOT being bad was in reality being worse.
Care to explain what's noteworthy about the exchange? Do you imagine that I was trying to invent a reason to attack WBG without him so much as posting in the thread yet or something?
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