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phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
February 18 2012 12:59 GMT
#526
On February 18 2012 11:51 Nisani201 wrote:
I'm going to trust Sentinel


this must be one of the most ridiculous things I've read in this thread.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
February 18 2012 13:49 GMT
#530
@ghost_403, nice defense. Several people started forming consense in IRC that you are not scum with very good arguments, so I'll rectract my case. I'll leave my vote on you for the moment (as you are not getting lynched anyway) to not interfere with the double lynch the others are planning.

+ Show Spoiler +
[00:38:14] <derpladee> http://pastebin.com/pJnDFJRx
[00:41:44] <derpladee> dunno, on one hand it's suboptimal scum play
[00:41:48] <derpladee> on the other hand he's being kinda lazy
[00:43:11] <Nisani201> fuck this, i'm playing some ME3 demo
[00:45:07] <Probulous> ROFL nisani bails when real info appears
[00:46:49] <Probulous> derp, that fits what I had him pegged as. Like I said previously he may look really scummy for his case on you but at least he made the effort. Others have blatantly sheeped or posted no case at all. I mean Bluelightz case on Ghost is a classic.
[00:47:25] <derpladee> it's pretty bad but i have never seen anything out of bluelightz that looked like he had really put any effort into it
[00:47:51] <derpladee> he never looks like he thought "man this fucker is so scummy i'm going to read everything he has and make the most awesome case in the universe"
[00:48:05] <derpladee> ghost's case on me, i don't care about that though
[00:48:14] <derpladee> it bad but it's not really scummy
[00:48:19] <derpladee> in itself
[00:48:22] <derpladee> i think
[00:48:38] <Bluelightz> I'm here
[00:48:42] <Probulous> but the point stands, Ghost actually tried to be constructive. He geniunely believes that your PMs were a scum tactic so he pushed you as hard as he could. The fact he wouldn't drop it just confirms it in my mind.
[00:49:11] *** Quits: Nisani201 (~Nisani201@cpe-76-171-118-36.socal.res.rr.com) (Ping timeout)
[00:50:02] <Probulous> Compare his attempts to be constructive with Sentinel (my lovely target)
[00:50:28] <Probulous> sentinel even after being told repeatedly to make a case on anyone has provided nothing.
[00:50:55] <Probulous> The only thing of substance he has produced was his defense.
[00:51:15] <derpladee> we know that you are here Bluelightz
[00:51:21] <Bluelightz>
[00:51:27] <Bluelightz> Checking sentinel's filter
[00:52:40] <Probulous> As you pointed out Ghost is pushing the one lynch that is going nowhere. He has been on your case all game. Do you really think his scum team would let him play like this? It just makes him look worse because of the OMGUS nature of it.
[00:52:58] <Probulous> Look he could be scum but there are others out there that look worse to me
[00:52:59] <Bluelightz> That is ture prob
[00:53:03] <Bluelightz> true*
[00:53:54] <Probulous> derpladee: thoughts?
[00:54:24] <derpladee> no probably not
[00:54:27] <derpladee> he's playing very suboptimal
[00:54:33] <Bluelightz> suboptimal?
[00:54:36] <derpladee> like
[00:54:44] <derpladee> he's not playing as well as should be expected from him
[00:54:46] <derpladee> if he was scum
[00:54:53] <derpladee> like
[00:54:55] <derpladee> i told him
[00:54:59] <derpladee> "do this and i'll help you survive"
[00:55:04] <derpladee> and then he was like "but you're scum"
[00:55:09] <Bluelightz> o.o
[00:55:12] <Probulous> exactly
[00:55:24] <derpladee> scum would just fucking do what i asked them to
[00:55:27] <derpladee> i think
[00:55:52] <Probulous> I think scum would have told him to shut up or push some else
[00:56:00] <Bluelightz> lol yeah "This guy gonna help me? OYEAH"


About Nisani201, he is behaving stupid, but I'm not sure that makes him scum. Sentinel however pretty much sealed the deal himself with his reaction.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
February 18 2012 13:50 GMT
#531
EBWOP consensus, not consense
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
February 18 2012 23:55 GMT
#557
On February 19 2012 07:05 Paperscraps wrote:

Who else thinks it is odd that Palmar hasn't been shot yet?


I do. I also think that Grackaroni was sheeping Palmar pretty hard today. And Bluelightz excuse for not voting is... lacking.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
February 20 2012 07:51 GMT
#572
Real life caught up with me, texting from my mobile after having no time for nothing. I will post later with more and will also vote.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
February 20 2012 12:00 GMT
#582
rgTheSchworz would be a nice candidate. He was very inactive, then talks about having the whole weekend to participate, but contributes nothing on his Weekend. This morning he makes a weak case on Bluelightz, which seems to me he invested almost no time on.

However, mderg gets my vote. Lurking very hard, missing one vote, then contradicting himself in his statements about Palmar. Also

On February 18 2012 20:58 mderg wrote:

Also I know that I haven´t posted a lot, this will change now that I have more time


And then posts exactly one more one-liner. Time to go.

##vote mderg

Should mderg not vote (and therefore getting modkilled), then I'll try to switch my vote last minute to rgTheSchworz (I'm at work at deadline, don't know if I will be able to.)
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
February 20 2012 15:31 GMT
#605
On February 21 2012 00:26 Palmar wrote:
I think it's pretty clear the scum are ghost and phagga.


any reason?

The only thing that seems clear to me is that paper is not scum, the way he pushed the sentinel lynch and with the red team probably being dead.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
February 20 2012 17:58 GMT
#622
I am the Journalist. My checks so far were prplhz, Sentinel, Lanaia and froggynoddy. They all returned Townie to me.

From the remaining group I only checked froggy. As there has not been any counterclaim to Paperscraps DT claim (and there has to be a DT according to the Role-OP), I believe him to be right. A few points worth noting:

- There was barely any resistance of ghost_403 when he was accused of being scum.
- Bluelightz was in the Channel too when Paper claimed, but left in the middle of it without comment + Show Spoiler +
[16:34] <Paperscraps> phagga is confirmed scum
[16:34] <phagga> now, this is getting interesting
[16:35] <phagga> so you claim detective?
[16:35] <Paperscraps> YES
[16:35] == Ciryandor [webchat@112.201.18.52] has joined #WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT
[16:35] <@Palmar> Paperscraps is a DT
[16:35] <@Palmar> or well
[16:35] <@Palmar> he claimed it day 1 to me
[16:35] <ghost_403> ballsy move if you're not
[16:35] <@Palmar> seems stupid to do
[16:35] <@Palmar> if he's scum
[16:36] <ghost_403> phagga, who else did you check?
[16:36] <Paperscraps> uhh?
[16:36] <phagga> lol, it's getting better and better
[16:36] <Paperscraps> I am the DT
[16:36] <ghost_403> lol
[16:36] <ghost_403> my bad
[16:36] <ghost_403> totally directed at paper
[16:37] <@Palmar> scumslip?
[16:37] <ghost_403> right...
[16:37] <ghost_403> so, paper, who else did you check?
[16:38] <froggynoddy> I'm confused
[16:38] <Paperscraps> i checked blazinghand N0, then I checked prplhz N1, and I checked Bluelightz N2
[16:38] <Ciryandor> paper check your PMs please
[16:38] <Paperscraps> k
[16:39] <Ciryandor> same thing to everyone still alive
[16:39] <Ciryandor> I'm sending PMs re: your roles and such
[16:40] <@Palmar> <Ciryandor> paper check your PMs please
[16:40] <@Palmar> I guess that confirms
[16:40] <@Palmar> paper has a role
[16:40] <@Palmar> rofl
[16:40] <phagga> but not which
[16:40] <froggynoddy> am rlly confused at this move paper, form what I can work out this is abad move for town, but ill wait till everyone reads ciry's pms
[16:40] <froggynoddy> lol @palma
[16:40] <froggynoddy> r
[16:40] <@Palmar> it's lylo froggynoddy
[16:41] <phagga> I haven't got a PM yet
[16:41] <@Palmar> no reason not to claim
[16:41] <@Palmar> like we should mass-claim
[16:41] <phagga> lol, you guys are great at this game
[16:41] <@Palmar> @phagga: <Ciryandor> same thing to everyone still alive <-- he just added this when he realized he fucked up
[16:41] <phagga> I should have seen this coming
[16:41] <froggynoddy> thats what I thought
[16:41] <@Palmar> meh
[16:42] <froggynoddy> its likely (though not certain) that there are 2scum left right?
[16:42] <@Palmar> ok guys
[16:42] <ghost_403> if there were three, wouldn't the game be over?
[16:42] <@Palmar> shut up ghost
[16:42] <@Palmar> you're
[16:42] <@Palmar> scum
[16:42] <@Palmar> paper was lying earlier
[16:43] <Paperscraps> dat reaction test
[16:43] <Paperscraps> hehehe
[16:43] <Paperscraps> Ghost is scum
[16:43] <@Palmar> <Paperscraps> ok just let me know who you want checked
[16:43] <@Palmar> <Palmar> grackaroni
[16:43] <@Palmar> <Palmar> we'll try to lynch mderg
[16:43] <@Palmar> <Paperscraps> k changed it
[16:43] <@Palmar> <Palmar> I think you should
[16:43] <@Palmar> <Palmar> claim in the thread
[16:43] <@Palmar> <Palmar> did you check grack?
[16:43] <@Palmar> <Paperscraps> yeah i havent gotten a pm yet
[16:43] <@Palmar> <Paperscraps> but he is green obv
[16:43] <@Palmar> <Paperscraps> from the post
[16:43] <@Palmar> <Palmar> well he died
[16:43] <@Palmar> <Palmar> you should claim
[16:43] <@Palmar> <Paperscraps> ok
[16:43] <@Palmar> <Palmar> even if
[16:44] <@Palmar> <Palmar> it's unimportant
[16:44] <@Palmar> <Paperscraps> i am going to fake guilty some one
[16:44] <@Palmar> <Paperscraps> and reaction teset
[16:44] <@Palmar> <Palmar> yeah
[16:44] <@Palmar> <Paperscraps> test
[16:44] <@Palmar> <Palmar> go for it
[16:44] <@Palmar> <Palmar> do it on phagga
[16:44] <@Palmar> <Paperscraps> kk
[16:44] <@Palmar> <Paperscraps> going to make up some stuff
[16:44] <@Palmar> <Palmar> lol ok
[16:44] <@Palmar> <Paperscraps> because I dont think they would believe me failling so hard
[16:44] <@Palmar> <Paperscraps> OHHHH SICK
[16:44] <@Palmar> <Paperscraps> ghost is scum
[16:44] <@Palmar> <Paperscraps> yyeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[16:44] <@Palmar> <Palmar> oh
[16:44] <@Palmar> <Palmar> how?
[16:44] <@Palmar> <Palmar> rofl
[16:44] <@Palmar> <Paperscraps> he didnt count my change
[16:44] <@Palmar> <Palmar> ah
[16:44] <@Palmar> <Palmar> nice
[16:44] <@Palmar> <Palmar> awesome
[16:44] <@Palmar> <Paperscraps> yep
[16:45] <@Palmar> That's why ciryandor rofl
[16:45] <@Palmar> told paper to check his pms
[16:45] <ghost_403> done?
[16:45] <@Palmar> yeah
[16:45] <@Palmar> you're scum
[16:45] <@Palmar> g
[16:45] <@Palmar> gg
[16:45] <@Palmar> no re
[16:45] <ghost_403> how does me asking you to confirm/deny that paper told you he was a detective day1 prove that i'm scum
[16:46] <@Palmar> unimportant
[16:46] <@Palmar> I told paper to change his check to grack
[16:46] <@Palmar> but
[16:46] <@Palmar> he never did
[16:46] <ghost_403> ...?
[16:46] <@Palmar> so he got a check on you instead
[16:46] <@Palmar> and he got guilty
[16:46] <@Palmar> that proves you're scum
[16:46] <@Palmar> you were checked
[16:46] <@Palmar> and you're scm
[16:46] <@Palmar> from a basically confirmed Dt
[16:46] <ghost_403> ha
[16:46] <ghost_403> haha
[16:47] <ghost_403> hahaha
[16:47] <ghost_403> got the attuned trait
[16:47] <@Palmar> laugh some more while you figure out how to defend
[16:47] <@Palmar> lol, bullshit
[16:47] <@Palmar> what does that even do?
[16:47] <Paperscraps> Perceptive (Attuned): Can tell if people are paying attention to his behavior. An Attuned person will know if someone has scanned them, but not the role that they have.
[16:47] <ghost_403> tells me if someone scanned me during the night
[16:47] <ghost_403>
[16:48] <@Palmar> yeah, I'm going to believe paperscraps
[16:48] <@Palmar> over you
[16:48] <phagga> So which role did ghost have?
[16:49] <ghost_403> after all, he's confirmed that i'm scum
[16:50] <phagga> Paperscraps, which role did ghost have?
[16:50] <Paperscraps> Forum Moderator (Detective): The Moderator has the ability to check once a night to see if they are undesirable werewolves (Scum) or an Apprentice. Every other role will appear as a regular Forumer (Townie).
[16:50] <Paperscraps> he is scum
[16:51] == hjloh [webchat@port-92-205-84-199.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT
[16:51] <Paperscraps> scum or townie are the reports I recieve
[16:51] <Paperscraps> receive*
[16:51] <Paperscraps> also phagga
[16:51] <Paperscraps> you failed the reaction test
[16:52] <@Palmar> lol
[16:52] <@Palmar> if we're fast
[16:52] <phagga> lol
[16:52] <@Palmar> well
[16:52] <@Palmar> they can counterlynch one townie
[16:52] <@Palmar> but it's safer
[16:52] <@Palmar> to just lynch ghost
[16:52] <@Palmar> and check phagga
[16:52] <Paperscraps> yeah
[16:52] <@Palmar> phagga do you agree with lynching ghost?
[16:53] <phagga> I'm not sure yet
[16:53] <@Palmar> yeah
[16:53] <@Palmar> ask him if it's okay you bus him first
[16:53] <@Palmar> it's the correct play
[16:53] <@Palmar> but better make sure he doesn't mind
[16:53] <phagga> 1. )You guys are aware that you are implying that role distribution is not even
[16:54] <phagga> 2.) If the last scum is grandfather or corrupted, you will never be able to catch him
[16:54] <froggynoddy> paperscraps I assume you've checked Palmar to trust him so much
[16:54] <phagga> because the detective can only scan regular scum
[16:54] <Paperscraps> froggynoddy I never did
[16:54] <phagga> this is just bullshit you two are telling
[16:54] <froggynoddy> wow ok
[16:54] <Paperscraps> but if Palmar was scum I would be dead
[16:54] <phagga> I have a hard time believing this
[16:55] <@Palmar> froggynoddy, just lynch me if ghost and phagga don't flip scum
[16:55] <@Palmar> it's irrelevant
[16:55] <@Palmar> this guilty check solves the game
[16:55] <Paperscraps> froggynoddy I didn't need to check Palmar, because he is pro town
[16:55] <Paperscraps> that would be a waste
[16:56] == Bluelightz_ [webchat@static-210-128-201.cbn.net.id] has quit [Quit: Page closed]

- Paper pushed the Sentinel Lynch, so I see it as highly unlikely that he is in the same scum team as Sentinel. The same goes for Palmar, who seemed to approve the Sentinel Lynch. This is also the reason why I checked neither of them last night.

There is a really slim chance that the two are the remaining scum, sacrificing Sentinel to get the Mafia through with an alibi. This is, however, very unlikely.

With the information we have now, the fate of the town lies in the Hands of Paperscraps and Palmar, be it for good or bad. I therefore follow them.

##Vote: ghost_403
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
February 21 2012 21:52 GMT
#636
Going for the final vote...

##Vote Bluelightz
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
February 22 2012 05:32 GMT
#638
On February 18 2012 08:41 Palmar wrote:
gg no re


##Vote Palmar
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
February 22 2012 14:17 GMT
#646
On February 22 2012 22:23 Ciryandor wrote:
I will be counting the votes in the main thread only. Thanks.

You mean, in this thread?

##Unvote Bluelightz

##Vote Palmar
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
February 22 2012 14:22 GMT
#647
On February 22 2012 17:33 Palmar wrote:
So do I get an explanation before you throw the game away?

I know Bluelightz' Role. If Palmar gets lynched, town wins.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
February 22 2012 15:06 GMT
#653
Oh bluelightz, what did you do?
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
February 22 2012 15:11 GMT
#657
No shit, sherlock? Why did you not vote him?
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
February 22 2012 15:52 GMT
#671
gg Palmar. Still cannot believe Bluelightz was so naive.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
February 23 2012 10:52 GMT
#689
this was my very first mafia game I ever played, and it was really fun. Unfortunately I failed at the endgame, I wish I had the time to be in irc as well. Perhaps I might have been able to convince blue that I was town.

I'm very impressed with the play of Palmar. The way he was able to make people believe and how he was the topic of many discussions without saying much was incredible.

I'll surely stand more on my own feet in my next game. I know now better what to look out for. Big thanks to prplhz here who helped me along in PMs (I got one of his famous "ice breaker" PMs as well) until he got shot.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
March 09 2012 10:17 GMT
#694
Probulous, I just looked at your post in the library, where you are preparing the entry for this game.

I noticed there is a question mark behind the results I received for my journalist checks on the night acts list. It's true that all checks returned townie to me (except for the Bluelights/Apprentice one). So I checked scum three nights in a row, but all returned townie because they had the wrong role, so to speak. (After getting the return on lanaya I even thought "well, that would be quite a coincidence if I checked two scums with the wrong role", which made me trust lanaya partially.

Also, Paperscraps should have never gotten a "scum" return on his dt check on ghost_403, as ghost was corrupted and can only be detected by journalists. (I guess that's why he "DERP")

"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
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