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Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
February 20 2012 07:51 GMT
#3901
Good job yesterday. I´m not sure what Jaybrundage wanted to accomplish with that, claiming puts him into the spotlight and forces a lynch between him and Evantrees, and in this case he was way scummier. He did us a favor though.

I´m rereading the thread to get an idea who to shoot at. The last medic, I´d like you to protect me or one of the other confirmed Townies. Not Evantrees, he´s got 2 lives, he´ll manage. I will most likely not claim in advance, but you´ll know who I shot by looking at whoever dies, it´s not theorethical physics.
:3
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
February 20 2012 07:53 GMT
#3902
On February 20 2012 15:21 -_-Quails wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2012 14:50 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Anyone up for lynching hiro next?

Assuming hiro isn't killed in the night.
What is our KP at nowadays?

ScumKP is 2, until we kill one more scum, tonight or tomorrow with the lynch.
TownKP is 1, from me. I don´t think there´s anyone else.
:3
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
February 20 2012 09:41 GMT
#3903
I think lynching hiro tomorrow is our best bet.

I think you should fire into the non-confirmed townies tonight, Forumite.

Adam4167
Jayjay54
Ico/RayzorFlash
Katina

Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
February 20 2012 09:45 GMT
#3904
Reading through the filters of confirmed scum, they talk a lot about Katina, Hiro and Jaybrundage. It seems scum in this game likes to distance themselves from eachother as much as possible, so that would make sense.
:3
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
February 20 2012 09:58 GMT
#3905
And another town clutch lynch! nice. I don't know what the deal was there. If he didn't make up this KP, I sincerely believe, I'd pushed for an evantrees-lynch. Thank god, he did make it up..

On February 20 2012 18:41 Adam4167 wrote:
I think lynching hiro tomorrow is our best bet.

I think you should fire into the non-confirmed townies tonight, Forumite.

Adam4167
Jayjay54
Ico/RayzorFlash
Katina



Hmm. If you are so sure, why not kill hiro tonight?

I also don't like that you list RG and evantrees under confirmed townies. Especially evantrees. He claimed, people didn't really buy it, JB steps in (prob knowing that he dies to riddler anyways) and makes a ridiculous CC. Maybe to give evantrees confirmed town status and save him from being shot? It's not that far fetched.

On the other hand we have rg. Although his claim is more believeable IMO, he lied twice this game and we just let him survive because third party "confirmed" him. Not enough for a free pass...

I most certainly would not call any one of them confirmed.

That being said, there's no downside of killing hiro today. The recent posts arguing about JB's claim have convinced me 90%-95% that he's scum. He has been acting scummy all game and I just stepped back from him, because everybody wanted him dead. Then, his defence actions for JB were once more really scummy, just look at his posts in the last 3 pages, they don't make any sense and look like defending his false claimed buddy via grasping straws. I think he should die tonight.

##vote hiro protagonist ##advise forumite to kill hiro protagonist


Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
February 20 2012 10:07 GMT
#3906
Heres why rG is town:

Link


I am sure Hiro is scum, as is the rest of the town. That's why we need to keep him for tomorrow. Its the only thing we can all agree on. I would much rather Forumite use his vig power to rid us of an unknown, then we lynch the sure-thing tomorrow.

That said, I fully agree with his most recent assessment and I think hes going to blast the last scum overnight, anyway. From there the survivors can lynch Hiro and ride off into the sunset.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
February 20 2012 10:15 GMT
#3907
On February 20 2012 19:07 Adam4167 wrote:
Heres why rG is town:

Link


I am sure Hiro is scum, as is the rest of the town. That's why we need to keep him for tomorrow. Its the only thing we can all agree on. I would much rather Forumite use his vig power to rid us of an unknown, then we lynch the sure-thing tomorrow.

That said, I fully agree with his most recent assessment and I think hes going to blast the last scum overnight, anyway. From there the survivors can lynch Hiro and ride off into the sunset.


I think it's likely, yes. But your logic is not correct.

He didn't need Kurumi to claim the hit. With all the KPs flying around, it could have easily been a scum KP. We also already know that he made up the medic part.

So he didn't know Kurumi would step in for him, but he didn't need him to. If kurumi hadn't claimed the shot, his claim wouldn't have been impossible...The fact that kurumi DID step in, was convenient for him. Same with the DT claim where Kurumi jumped in as well.

rg is town to me, but he is not confirmed town. Kurumi helped him out for some reason. and I don't know if this reason is town favored.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
February 20 2012 10:20 GMT
#3908
On February 20 2012 19:07 Adam4167 wrote:
I am sure Hiro is scum, as is the rest of the town. That's why we need to keep him for tomorrow. Its the only thing we can all agree on. I would much rather Forumite use his vig power to rid us of an unknown, then we lynch the sure-thing tomorrow.


Also, this is just not good. If we can kill a scum today, we should do it. We'd reduce the scum votes by 1. going to 5-1. If forumite misfires, we'll be at 4-2, giving scum way better chances to manipulate the lynch vote. There will be talking and hiro will step up and there is a chance he can talk himself out, considering two scum votes are floating aroung.

So no, we should kill scum today and lynch "the unknown" tomorrow...
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
February 20 2012 10:22 GMT
#3909
oh and rayzor is still in the riddler game. if he is scum, the hiro kill will straight up win us this game. If he is town, we could end up 3-2 giving scum 2 chances to voteswitch into victory. I'd rather avoid that.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
February 20 2012 10:59 GMT
#3910
Ok, we shoot Hiro tonight, and he flips scum (and he will).

Who do you want to hang tomorrow?
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
February 20 2012 11:11 GMT
#3911
that's actually a tough question. And depends a lot on the stuff happening tonight.

If rayzor is still alive, I will start by looking into him. Because he'd be the most scummy alive. If not, we have a good chance to already win the game right now.

I disagreed with an evantrees lynch pretty long, but there flips happened, the more he rose. Now the claim. Still not sure what I think about that. Somehow I am suspicious.

katina flies under the radar all game long. Still most of her decisions were town favored. Seems towny. But then again, the scum team was a huge bus company this game...

Another thought I have is that deadpool is still out there. I expect hiro to flip deadpool. If that's not the case, because I don't believe the important vig role went to some random lurker. You might actually be a good candidate for that...Would you consider evantrees an experienced player?
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
February 20 2012 11:20 GMT
#3912
I've seen his name in a few games, but not heaps.

The roles were decided before the game, then Hiro lurked. I don't think saying 'I don't believe the important vig role went to some random lurker' makes a great deal of sense.

But do you understand what I'm saying? You seem pretty undecided on who the last scum is, as is everyone else. I think Forumite is the most experienced and has played the best out of all of us, thus I would prefer he takes the hard decision and leaves town with the easy one.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
February 20 2012 11:41 GMT
#3913
guess you're right, setup speculation won't get us far...

this is not an easy choice, is it? If I had to bet right now, I think I'd go with rayzor and hiro...

evantrees only plus is the claim / counterclaim thing. it's so hard to decide if that was real or just a move because JB was going to die anyways...

you seem town favored, but I guess I have to question anyone, before I give out towntickets...same for katina (just that she is way less vocal).

forumite do you mind give us all your reads on everyone before you die?

Hmm. I myself will make a more detailled analysis within the next two days...seeing the flips and if rayzor is still alive. Maybe we already won and I can save work.

Because now, it's time for karneval! Alaaf! I'll be pretty drunk pretty soon, let's hope I don't post

see you tomorrow guys.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
February 20 2012 11:45 GMT
#3914
If you post, remember to include your alignment!

I think we'll find the last scum in Katina for the reason Forumite pointed out. The scum team seem to be going out of their way to mention her and attack her.

We still have another 16 or so hours to discuss stuff, may as well use it.
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
February 20 2012 11:49 GMT
#3915
On February 20 2012 20:20 Adam4167 wrote:
But do you understand what I'm saying? You seem pretty undecided on who the last scum is, as is everyone else. I think Forumite is the most experienced and has played the best out of all of us, thus I would prefer he takes the hard decision and leaves town with the easy one.

I´d prefer if you didn´t rely so heavily on me. I was in the Team Fortress game where there were 5 Town and one Scum in the end, and I lead town through 2 mislynches and lost us the game. Things like that doesn´t make me very confident being Town leader. Also I´m dead tomorrow, barring Medic assistance, so this is probably my last night in the game.

Right now I´m choosing between killing Hiro or shooting Evantrees to confirm him as Town. I´m suspecting that Jaybrundage tried to get one of him and Evantrees confirmed Town, in response to everyone wanting to lynch Evantrees despite his Veteran-claim. The thing is, I´m probably wasting a kill, but if it was a trick, which I think it was, then this shot is the only way that we´re going to know without killing him. I think I´d rather confirm Evantrees and make sure that it wasn´t a crazy setup, and leave you to lynch Hiro tomorrow.

There have been 3 vigilantes, one detective and one medic, I doubt this game would include all 4 veterans.

Evantrees, did you breadcrumb your role anywhere? Is there any reason why we shouldn´t shoot you to confirm you as Town for everyone?
:3
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
February 20 2012 11:54 GMT
#3916
I see what you are saying with katina and I thought about that as well. The problem I have here is that I normally try to spot scum doing anti town stuff. Which she didn't. Same applies for you. Not for the rest. Maybe I am just to naive. I promised myself to revaluate every read I currently have (including yours and katina's) in order to find the right decision tomorrow (if there is a tomorrow). We should all do that. And I don't want to hear that evantrees and rg are straight confirmed just because of their claim. We didn't get this far to lose to a simple falseclaim...

if you've ever seen Karneval / Rosenmontag in the Rheinland you'd know that I won't be able to type anything with sense, when I am done celebrating.

Alignment is town though You take my word don't you?

let's hope I don't type until tomorrow, that'll be better for everyone involved. Bye guys.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
February 20 2012 11:59 GMT
#3917
Town:
Forumite
rgtheschworz

-_-Quails

Leaning Town:
Jayjay54
Adam4167
RayzorFlash


Leaning Scum:
Katina
hiro protagonist
evantrees


The reason I thought Katina was Town earlier was because of her being on the Radfield lynch early. The reason I´m suspicious is because all/almost all confirmed scum have talked a lot about her. They´ve often mentioned eachother in scumlists, and dropping weak suspicions.

Evantrees is likely scum because of how Jaybrundage reacted to pressure on Evantrees. If Jay had just shut up then we´d probably lynched Evantrees anyway. He was definetly not confirmed Town, so why would he try to draw attention to himself by makeing a crazy claim?

Hiro is the usual suspect of everyone since the start of the game. Scum have made sure to have nothing to do with him, accusing him of mild scumminess whenever possible.

+ Show Spoiler +
- rgTheSchworz - 0
Jayjay54
Bill Murray
Forumite
Radfield


- Bill Murray - 0
Kurumi
-_-Quails


- Evantrees - 0
Radfield
Tunkeg
Kurumi
Toadesstern
Palmar
Chaoser
Adam4167
layabout


- Risk.nuke - 0
Jayjay54


- Tyrran - 1
layabout
Bill Murray


- Tunkeg - 0
Katina


- hiro protagonist - 1
jaybrundage
Jayjay54


- Radfield - 9
Forumite
Tunkeg
Palmar
Toadesstern
Kurumi
jaybrundage
-_-Quails
RayzorFlash
Katina
Adam4167
Adam4167
jaybrundage


- Palmar - 1
layabout
Radfield
Toadesstern
Jayjay54
VisceraEyes
RayzorFlash
hiro protagonist


- Forumite - 1
risk.nuke
rgTheSchworz


- rayzorflash - 2
kitaman27
risk.nuke
layabout
chaoser
VisceraEyes
Adam4167


- Chaoser - 6
Kitaman27
risk.nuke
Radfield
RayzorFlash
VisceraEyes
Evantrees
:3
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
February 20 2012 12:18 GMT
#3918
After rereading the JB vs evantrees claim-off,

JB doesn't claim until AFTER 3 people have switched off of evantrees, and onto Hiro.


Incoming WIFOM:
Look at it from scum-JB's perspective (assuming evantrees is scum), your scum teammate has just been given an new lease on life thanks to his claim, now everyone is switching off to your much more scummier and suspicious teammate. Surely you'd just let your scummier teammate die, keep your mouth shut, and not out yourself as well.

What I think happened: JB saw another person claim, panicked as the number of 'confirmed' townies was getting too large, thought he could win us over with a claim of being shot last night. It was rushed, not well thought out and that's why it was so obviously false.
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
February 20 2012 12:26 GMT
#3919
You think JB claimed to protect Hiro?
:3
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
February 20 2012 12:28 GMT
#3920
I honestly have no idea why he claimed, it really made no damn sense.

I think it was partly to protect Hiro, partly he thought he might have more credibility than evantrees and we might side with him.
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