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On February 04 2012 01:10 Dirkzor wrote: lol... does it really matter? just dont give votes to jackal and we lynch him tomorrow.. he will only have 3 votes and town will have 14...
can we shorten the night to when all have done nightactions? That's fine, just get your shit in in a timely fashion.
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Thx RoL
Just to cover all bases.
LSB was scum chaoser was scum
wherebugsgo/VE/layabout is dead - do we believe one of them was scum?
Jackal is 99% scum.
Do anyone see the chance that there are still 2 scum left? Jackal and someone else? I'm pretty sure VE was scum but I can never be 100%.
Best action is for Node to just give 1 vote away. If he tries to give away 5 votes and scum can still bus they might gain majority. However if they kill node the votes are lost but town still have majority.
I believe the steel power is 1 time use.
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Blame American time zones. Or me for for beeing cooky ![](/mirror/smilies/frown.gif)
The "send votes to townreads plan" was always only valid the the first two nights. After two nights we should have ignored vp and instead just discussed lynches as a normal town. Once we reached a conclusion we should had used the vp to get the chosen person lynched. Townie-looking people wouldn't need vp because their opinions would weigh heavier on the discussion anyway. Essentially making vp useless. Then it would be more important to balance out votes to make sure scum couldn't do manipulate votes with abillitys like vote-siphon and vote-steal.
I didn't care to post this plan day 3 because I thought we had won and I was afraid it would only stirr up some confusion in town and make you suspicious of me.
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Jackal! there better another scum or you have some way of winning cause if you just delayed this game to mess with us that's bm and I'm going to be seriously pissed at you.
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Sent my vote, encouraging others to do the same.
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On February 04 2012 01:44 risk.nuke wrote: Jackal! there better another scum or you have some way of winning cause if you just delayed this game to mess with us that's bm and I'm going to be seriously pissed at you. Pfffffttttt. I just got home. 5 seconds after I voted for you I got sent to Little Rock to recover a broke airplane. So I killed you because I didn't know how long I'd be gone. You guys could have mis lynched twice before it became a problem so it didn't really matter who was scum. Town would have won either way. I just needed one more day to win. Fuck you ![](/mirror/smilies/frown.gif)
I mean that in a loving way. ![](/mirror/smilies/smile.gif)
GG
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GG all...
I really did think that you acted differently day1 then you did in purgatory... Oh well... VE was the 4rd scum?
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"That´s big..."
"Of course it is, we´re builders, we don´t deal with tiny things."
"Do you think we can make that thing?"
"Sure, the tower is the easy part, getting to Tau Ceti will tougher."
Jackal58 - Votemanipulator (Day 4 votesteal) Chaoser - Busdriver LSB - Roleblocker VisceraEyes - Gravedigger PaperScraps - Gravedigger jaybrundage - Tracker Node - Vigilante (1-shot, reveals alignment) Dirkzor - Vigilante (1-shot, reveals alignment) Palmar - Watcher Prplhz - Medic MeatlessTaco - Vanilla Townie LayAbout - Vanilla Townie Wherebugsgo - Vanilla Townie risk.nuke - Vanilla Townie [UoN]Sentinel - Vanilla Townie
Thanks to RoL for hosting, Zona for zbot, and thanks to everyone else for playing.
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GG all, was a ton of fun. Palmar is imba town. Good frame on layabout mafia.
On February 03 2012 06:47 Paperscraps wrote: I believe much will be revealed after tonight.
Incase I die, I leave you all with this.
steganography
Hint for me leaving breadcrumbs.
The only capital letters in the paragraphs below.
On January 28 2012 10:34 Paperscraps wrote: Understand that i am fully for lynching, i was just wondering what other peoples thoughts were on it. Now i feel as though i am being condemned for wanting to interact with town and strike up important and relevant discussions. Does being active and opposing palmar make me scum? Either you guys are using meta which i am unaware of or know something about palmar i dont. Right now though i am realizing that my talking so much about plans is upsetting people. Thing is, i dont care whether we do the free trade plan or circle trade plan, as long as the town is in unision. A point i made pretty early on in the thread. Keep in mind the people pushing for their respective plan can have hidden agendas. Even if we decided on a plan, we don't know if mafia or town was pushing for it on day one. Reminder: you cant trust anyone.
Undertaker = synonym for mortician. (aka gravedigger, coroner)
On January 31 2012 07:21 Paperscraps wrote: Well to get the night discussion going i have a few thoughts. Based on last night's actions palmar is likely to live again. Given that he is town, palmar will likely receive a lot of votes. Which is a concern for me. After day three palmar will have to give away a bunch of votes to someone else. Since nobody else is confirmed town yet, this presents a problem. Granted more information is sure to be revealed tomorrow, will another confirmed townie be revealed? Right now we need to decide if we want palmar to have enough votes to hammer by himself tomorrow or keep vp spread out a bit. Enabling one player to hammer is bad idea, now that i think of it. Essentially this nullifies any thoughts the rest of the town has and the town's influence as a whole, which is bad. No one person should be in control of the game, even the cowboy palmar.
WBG was green.
On February 02 2012 17:26 Paperscraps wrote: Visceraeyes wasn't the top person on chaoser's scumlist, yet he doesn't announce who his top scum reads are until two days later. Even if chaoser is town, his town play has been reactionary and not proactive in finding scum. Which is why it would be easy to frame him sure, but it is not a huge loss for town really either. Also we have three mis-lynches until lylo, which means we get to lynch four more people, if people are killed every night of course. So the more i think about this, if chaoser gives aways all his votes tomorrow i am definitely willing to discuss other lynch options. Really for mafia's plan in framing chaoser to work, they have to have someone who seems pro-town. Experience tells us that palmar's fos on risk.nuke is something to be seriously considered. Divulging our roles tomorrow will help greatly in the scumhunt.
VE was red.
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gg guys, well played by most of town, especially impressed with paperscraps and dirkzor.
Node MVP
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Just one more day. You damn meddling kids
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Why did VE claim a hit? It's really bugging me.
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Really ballsy and awesome shots by Node and Dirkzor. Shooting the only scum with any real town influence, really nice.
Haha those breadcrumbs Paperscraps. I doubt anyone found those ![](/mirror/smilies/puh2.gif)
The only grave VisceraEyes digged was his own? AMIRITE???+ Show Spoiler +
Anyway, VisceraEyes throwing himself under a bus like that was a pretty bad move. He not only incriminated himself but also LSB. I don't know what you guys were thinking.
I don't think scum played bad, but town had some crazy awesome powerplay and VisceraEyes gave himself up as did Jackal58. I can see where Jackal58 was coming from with his claim but I think he should just have relaxed and hoped town would have lynched somebody else.
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scum had so many options and with the no-flip. This feels like a game where town had a really hard time and we just lucked out thankfully
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Good Game. Link to observer and scum qt please.
Thanks to Forumite and RoL for hosting, I thought the set up was really fun. And special thanks to Zona for Zbot.
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On February 04 2012 22:20 prplhz wrote:Really ballsy and awesome shots by Node and Dirkzor. Shooting the only scum with any real town influence, really nice. Haha those breadcrumbs Paperscraps. I doubt anyone found those ![](/mirror/smilies/puh2.gif) The only grave VisceraEyes digged was his own? AMIRITE??? + Show Spoiler +Anyway, VisceraEyes throwing himself under a bus like that was a pretty bad move. He not only incriminated himself but also LSB. I don't know what you guys were thinking. I don't think scum played bad, but town had some crazy awesome powerplay and VisceraEyes gave himself up as did Jackal58. I can see where Jackal58 was coming from with his claim but I think he should just have relaxed and hoped town would have lynched somebody else. I am never claiming shit as scum again. Every time I try to I die.
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Unthanks to risk.nuke for calling me a moron ![](/mirror/smilies/frown.gif)
You know, when people just shit on other people like that without being constructive at all, it always makes it a lot easier for me to think that they're scum. Townies would say "you are a moron because this and that is wrong and you should think this and that instead" while scum are more like "you are a moron bec... well you're just a moron, alright?" Also makes me think that you're an asshole which makes me more likely to ignore you which townies again don't have any motivation for.
I really don't get this BM going on, layabout saying "Fuck you" to jaybrundage out of the blue? What the hell was that about? There is a HUGE difference between being a bully and being an asshole.
I'm not out for an apology or anything like that at all, I can totally handle it as I've been called a moron plenty during my time on these forums, I'm just pointing out that I think that behavior like this make the games less enjoyable. At least for me.
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On February 04 2012 23:09 prplhz wrote:Unthanks to risk.nuke for calling me a moron ![](/mirror/smilies/frown.gif) You know, when people just shit on other people like that without being constructive at all, it always makes it a lot easier for me to think that they're scum. Townies would say "you are a moron because this and that is wrong and you should think this and that instead" while scum are more like "you are a moron bec... well you're just a moron, alright?" Also makes me think that you're an asshole which makes me more likely to ignore you which townies again don't have any motivation for. I really don't get this BM going on, layabout saying "Fuck you" to jaybrundage out of the blue? What the hell was that about? There is a HUGE difference between being a bully and being an asshole. I'm not out for an apology or anything like that at all, I can totally handle it as I've been called a moron plenty during my time on these forums, I'm just pointing out that I think that behavior like this make the games less enjoyable. At least for me. Sorry for beeing bm, I'll try to think about that in the future
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