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##Signup If I get the angel with a wraithcannon, I'll make syllo disappear n1. that's a promise. | ||
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On December 28 2011 17:21 zelblade wrote: ##Signup | ||
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On December 31 2011 08:14 layabout wrote: have you read TL Mafia XLVIII? do you actually have faith in players to follow sound advice and play well? i would just like to get opinions that don't have a 1/3 chance of being dishonest and/or misleading (that isn't to say that people will be honest pre-game anyway) also if its bad advice you need to learn to recognise that as part of the game anyway There is no such thing as TL Mafia XLVIII. | ||
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Anyone talking about demon or angel strategy either is one, or is dumb. It's completely irrelevant to the goal at hand. The discussion about whether we should be lynching demons or angels is even dumber. We're going to lynch scum, I don't care what kind of scum, and thinking we can somehow figure out what type of scum multiple players are is just... derp. Bringing this up almost looks like testing the waters/reducing the threat level of one faction (your own). The discussion about how and when a seer should claim is also dumb. He doesn't need to claim if he doesn't suck. Any good Cop can just make a case once he has a guilty, or make a case to save an innocent, and push it. Knowing the player is scum makes writing the case so much easier. @Syllogism: You seem to be very much against lynching Bluelightz, do you want to explain to me why? @Cwave: Dirkzor's point is essentially correct, however, the fact that he felt the need to correct people by specifically demonstrating demons are no less threatening than angels, instead of just telling everyone to shut up and talk about something productive is however kinda scummy. The fact he's talking about the night cycle doesn't really say a lot. | ||
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But since you are around, please tell me, who would you lynch, right now? I will provide the same answer to you in turn. | ||
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On January 05 2012 20:07 syllogism wrote: Because people were picking on him for hurrrr not being helpful as scum in Student mafia and then for not posting anything useful within the first three hours of the game, just like everyone else. If he doesn't start posting something useful he might be a decent lynch possibility, but not because he didn't do anything within the first 3 hours. However I still don't see how this is your town play so how about we still lynch you instead. Do you have an excuse for not doing anything yesterday? I've one excuse in mind but I would like to hear it from you. Other than that, for instance lynching risk.nuke http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=298603&user=76576 appears to make much more sense given that we know how he plays town and this clearly isn't it so far. Grackaroni is another given that his only contribution so far has been to randomly tunnel bluelightz for the aforementioned awful reasons. The list of worthless people so far: RoL, risk.nuke, cwave, xsksc, Palmar, Jackal, Erandorr, bluelightz Out of those Palmar is the one least likely to be this inactive as town. You see, I don't disagree with the notion that lynching Bluelightz is bad, I'm just not sure how well I like your reasons for it. I actually think it's unlikely he's scum, not based on the amount he posted, but rather based on what he has posted. I didn't actually want to post yesterday, the time I had to play mafia I spent finishing up resistance, decided to rather just read the thread this morning. It's interesting that you seem to want to paint the picture that I'm always active and useful in the first part of day 1, when you know from experience that I do often ignore the initial discussion. Do you have a specific reason for this? between risk.nuke and Grackaroni, I'd much rather have a look at Grack, since I'm actually willing to wait for risk's initial contribution. I would actually have no problem with lynching people like RoL or Jackal day 1. | ||
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On January 05 2012 20:12 syllogism wrote: Palmar: do you really believe that "cluttering up the thread" is an issue so far in this game? Do you think it is ever? It's not the amount, but the content that I have a problem with. What I don't like is people discussing trivial things which anyone can take any side on, no matter their alignment. An example on this would be a discussion on how blue roles should act in a normal game, since that simply is just people giving their opinion on something that has no relevance to the game at hand. | ||
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On January 05 2012 20:29 syllogism wrote: Uh, from my experience you are always active if not useful early on, but I could be mistaken. I assumed your lack of activity was due to not wanting to post here while pretending to be away in Resistance but apparently that's not it. You posted quite a bit after the game was over but kept ignoring this game. Anyway, I'm probably not pushing to lynch you today given how many useless people there are. Also reading steamship made me a bit more open to the idea that we can both be town due to the fact Zona quite clearly RNGs teams rather than just pretends to like other hosts. Reading steamship should also have been a perfect example of a game where I don't post or simply troll during the opening hours to you. I find it very weird that you somehow missed that, despite remembering the game when you need to use it to point out to me that there is a possibility we're both town. You know I don't metagame like that. If I don't post in a game it's simply because I don't want to post, I don't turn off messaging clients or hide from the forum when I don't want to post in a game. It's my problem I'm playing multiple games, so I should be the one at disadvantage from that. I want to see how you're thinking this game. Can you read Dirkzor's filter and tell me what you think about it? You don't need to conclude an alignment, you simply need to tell me what you think. | ||
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On January 05 2012 21:12 syllogism wrote: So, hey Palmar, you handsome man. What do you think about Wiggles' late entry to the game, and the wall of text he posted when he came in? Oh, I'm glad you asked syllogism. Wiggles seems to do this every game, regardless of his alignment, post thoughts on how the game should be played out. However, I don't get the same bad feeling about his posts this time around as I did in mini mafia x, if this is his new scum late entrance, it has much more to it than last time I saw him opening a game as scum. I'm actually leaning town on wiggles this game, his follow-up posts were more useful than what I'd believe scum wiggles would do, compared to what I've come to know him doing as scum. I think he should be one of the last people we lynch today. I agree with removing Dirkzor off the board as a lynch candidate, even if his opening post was kinda weird, his casual pointing out things like "that's an easy way to lurk", seems like a townie, rather than scum. What do you think about Blazinghand? | ||
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On January 05 2012 21:46 Bluelightz wrote: Right now, since we have no real option I would like to lynch a lurker. Yes, but which lurker, and why? | ||
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You are now a day-vigilante, if you kill a townie, you will lose the game for town immediately, so you have to shoot scum, everything is on the line. You HAVE to hit scum with the information you have now. Would you shoot RoL? | ||
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On January 05 2012 23:38 Bluelightz wrote: If I was in that situation then no. Because I lack sufficient information to make a correct move. So, in that situation, who would you shoot? | ||
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On January 05 2012 23:57 syllogism wrote: It's a really stupid hypothetical as you don't actually have to shoot anyone and we do have to lynch someone. How about just saying who you would lynch and why, much better. Why would you lynch (shoot) Dirkzor, cwave? I created the hypothetical because I find it very interesting that Bluelight seems to think it's not one and the same question. I think in almost every situation you'd want to lynch and shoot the same person, because every lynch should always be used on the person most likely to flip scum. | ||
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On January 06 2012 00:03 Cwave wrote: Posted earlier that i believe that he leans to much towards the Angel/Demon question and tries to steer away from Angels being our only threath. I think that goes without saying so it's just fluff to look like contributing by him. That and the focus on when it becomes night. Got told by Palmar that means nothing but i don't agree with that! Got any cases yourself yet Syllo which are worth sharing? What sets dirkzor apart from the other people talking about the difference in threat levels between angels and demons? | ||
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On January 06 2012 00:06 syllogism wrote: Do you think he would have made that long list of reads as scum? While his observations may be wrong, making the list requires reading the thread relatively carefully. It's possible, but I interpreted that as a slightly leaning town move from. I don't really like his "If I was in that situation then no. Because I lack sufficient information to make a correct move" post though as that sounds like a bit forced. Reading the thread "carefully" has become much easier since the filter button. What strikes me as odd in it is that he managed to apparently read the filter of 17 people, and he didn't find one scum in them. he found 14 null tells, with 3 people in layabout and wiggles and of course blazinghand who seem to be his strongest townread. If his list actually had any content in it I would consider it a pro-town move, but really, when you break it down, all he said is he has a slight town read on wiggles and layabout, and an even slighter townread on a few others. It has no conclusions at all. Now, I know this doesn't apply because of BL's low experience, but do you normally think that someone hopping into the thread, calling his main accuser town, and saying almost everyone else is a null-read is something a townie would do? I'm starting to think we should lynch BL. | ||
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I think being able to tell when you're being tunneled by mafia and when you're being tunneled by town is actually kind of a hard thing to do. | ||
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On January 06 2012 00:20 Bluelightz wrote: Hmm, if it was that i'd re-evaluate everyone other then RoL and if i find someone else scummier then him I wouldn't shoot RoL but If I didn't find anyone scummier i'd shoot RoL. Wait, didn't you just read everyone's filter? What's there to re-evaluate? Do you not like your conclusion of everyone being null? | ||
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On January 06 2012 00:33 syllogism wrote: Palmar: do you think wishy washyness is a good scum tell in a setup with two scum teams? Did you read his student mafia filter where he randomly calls people scum, as scum? yes, I followed student mafia to the end. Even if he somehow convinces me he's town, I'm forcing him to play better. Nothing bad can come out of this. | ||
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On January 06 2012 00:30 Bluelightz wrote: I think RoL is more scum because he didnt post anything before now and risk.nuke "promised"more content but, if he didnt fullfill the promise I would consider that he is scum also. Alright, so at gunpoint, your highest possibility of flipping scum is RoL, based on the fact that he has not posted. That's very... interesting. You have little enough faith in your actual reads that you would risk a game to kill off someone who you have nothing to determine his alignment on. | ||
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On January 06 2012 01:07 Bluelightz wrote: Okay Palmar, I'm about to sleep.So, ask me what you want to ask now :3 Well, I'm not sure what I should be asking you, apparently you're happy with fencesitting through the lynch, throwing your vote randomly against some lurker. Your entire scumhunting process is "This guy has not posted, so he must be scum". And I have a problem with that. Don't let me keep you up, there's still another day. You better come up with something better tomorrow, even if it's only a measurement of your neck. | ||
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This is loooong. But please read it very carefully, some of the most important bits are after the break. On January 06 2012 08:59 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Hi guys. First, we aren't lynching Bluelightz today. Reading through his posts, I'm getting a heavy new-town vibe from him. After he got called out, and started posting, this is how I've read him. Some people are saying that his posts sound like he has a scum-team behind him, but honestly, I don't think any scum team would let him post some of the things he did. As well, being calm when tunneled is not a scum tell in my opinion, in fact it's probably the opposite. A townie knows he is innocent, while a scum knows he is guilty. So, if you're being tunneled by someone, in which case do you think you'd be more nervous? When you know the person tunneling you is wrong, or when you know the person tunneling you is correct in their read? That's without even considering that he claims to have been gone during long periods in which he was supposed to be pressured. So, instead, I present to you all: Palmar http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=298603&user=87086 Palmar is normally a very aggressive and direct townie. He is not afraid to share his reads, to call people out, and to use his vote to pressure. He tunnels, and he is happy to call out bad play when he sees it. However, this is not the Palmar that we have in this game. Look at this. For someone who has played with me extensively in the past, he should know by now that I hate the "create plans" and "discuss if we want to lynch lurkers" phase of the game, so most of the time I ignore it and really start posting once I think there's something to discuss. In addition, aside from XLIV where I tunneled as part of a strategy (I tunneled just to see how town would respond), Please show me an example of a game where I tunneled on day one. I dare you to go and find a proper tunnel from me on day one that isn't XLIV. I have a feeling you're not going to be able to. I usually just read the thread, talk to people, and then at some point I make a decision. Usually with less than 24 hours to go. On January 06 2012 08:59 Mr. Wiggles wrote: For example, take this post: It's a post that's all over the place, and it's a post that contains no solid reads except that at that time, he didn't think that Bluelightz was necessarily scum. However, against everyone else, he doesn't provide any solid accusation. He says he wants to look at Grack, and that he would be fine lynching "people like RoL or Jackal". Notice that he doesn't actually say that he'd be fine lynching Jackal or RoL, just people like them, which makes what he said entirely non-committal. It's almost the same thing as saying he wants to lynch lurking vets without calling any out. Once again, before you think about what Wiggles is doing here, remember that this guy actually knows exactly how I play, yet he's trying to make it look like something else. Of course the post has no solid reads, it's a conversation with syllogism. Something I've found incredibly useful to determine the alignment of people I know very well (mostly sandro and syllo). In addition, English may not be my first language, but did anyone actually read the last sentence the way wiggles did? Cause it sure as hell meant I'm willing to lynch those two, not just people like them. Like, did anyone seriously read this sentence, and get out of it that I'm not fine with lynching Jackal and RoL? Maybe I'm completely off here, but this to me is stretching the point seriously. What I was trying to point out is that sometimes people make an argument for not lynching lurking veterans on day one, and I was saying that I'd have no problem lynching them, ie: lynching Jackal or RoL. On January 06 2012 08:59 Mr. Wiggles wrote: In his following posts, he has still yet to provide us with any scum reads, or to even pressure anyone. All he gives us are a couple of town reads and questions for syllo. Yes, I want to see where syllo stands. The complete misrepresentation (thanks Ver) of what happened between me and Bluelightz is the most telling thing from Wiggles in the game. On January 06 2012 08:59 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Next, is his altercation with Bluelightz, which I find very odd. Earlier, Palmar noted that he thought "it's unlikely he's scum", but then he felt the need to try to pressure him. So, something that Bluelightz posted must have caused some kind of concern for Palmar. The only thing posted by Bluelightz in this time, was his list of reads, so this must have been what set Palmar off. Pressuring Bluelightz to take a stance was fine, but the way in which Palmar did it was odd. Instead of asking Bluelightz who he would like to lynch, he instead came up with some sort of compulsive vig scenario, which doesn't add anything to the thread, and actually ended up detracting from it (see subsequent discussion with people jumping on the question instead of just discussing the lynch). Also, notice that Palmar is pressuring Bluelightz for giving a list of null and green reads, when this is the exact same thing Palmar has done up to this point in the game. It's hypocritical. So, after he finally gets an answer from Bluelightz, he still doesn't apply any actual pressure to him. He doesn't vote for him, he doesn't ask for people to vote for him, he just said he might vote for him in the future, which does not create pressure, and is completely different from my experience with town Palmar. Palmar doesn't even attack the bad posts made by Bluelightz, where for example he said he would lynch a lurker instead of naming one. Instead, he acts rather timidly compared to the pro-town Palmar I know. He doesn't even end up answering his own question afterwards, even when asked to, refusing yet again to take a stance on scum. This is what it comes down to. First off, Wiggles accuses me of changing my mind. That's dumb in the first place, because well... that's how you play this game. (notice, with this post I'm changing my mind on Wiggles). The best part is that Wiggles is actually not reading the thread, which is why his case is so heavily founded on attempting to create some meta on how I'm supposed to play on day 1, and trying to prove I'm not fitting it. I'll show you an example of Wiggles not reading the thread: On January 06 2012 08:59 Mr. Wiggles wrote: So, something that Bluelightz posted must have caused some kind of concern for Palmar. The only thing posted by Bluelightz in this time, was his list of reads, so this must have been what set Palmar off. Wiggles is speculating about why I decided to attack Bluelightz On January 06 2012 00:00 Palmar wrote: After Bluelight's latest list of only town/null reads and his wishy-washy-ness with accusing people I might actually just off him. I was kinda leaning maybe noob-town on him, but I don't like his last few posts. But there is no need to speculate, I said exactly what the deal was. I asked Bluelightz a simple question (who would you lynch?) and he failed to produce an answer other than "a lurker". After which I pressured him to answer using increasingly harsh methods. Here's more: On January 06 2012 08:59 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Instead of asking Bluelightz who he would like to lynch, he instead came up with some sort of compulsive vig scenario, which doesn't add anything to the thread, and actually ended up detracting from it (see subsequent discussion with people jumping on the question instead of just discussing the lynch). This is awesome, when you want to create a huge-ass case as scum, at least have the decency to read the posts of the person you're accusing, that way someone might buy it. (clickable) On January 05 2012 21:42 Palmar wrote: So who would you lynch Bluelightz? I want to establish this, I did ask Bluelightz who he wanted to lynch, then I asked him again, to get him to clarify a target, after he failed again I created a scenario to force him to actually give me an answer. Remember, the scenario, is essentially just "who do you think has the highest chance of flipping scum right now?", which should be exactly the same question as "who would you lynch?". This is important because for some reason Wiggles is attempting to make it look like a bad thing people are saying who they would lynch? I have no idea how that makes sense. And what has the fact that other people answered the question got to do with me? I mean, let's ignore for a moment the fact that people telling us who they think are scum is usually a good idea for town, and just focus on the fact that apparently I am scummy for something other people did. That's just plain wrong. You can never deduce anything about anyone's alignment from other people's actions. On January 06 2012 08:59 Mr. Wiggles wrote: So, after he finally gets an answer from Bluelightz, he still doesn't apply any actual pressure to him. He doesn't vote for him, he doesn't ask for people to vote for him, he just said he might vote for him in the future, which does not create pressure, and is completely different from my experience with town Palmar. Palmar doesn't even attack the bad posts made by Bluelightz, where for example he said he would lynch a lurker instead of naming one. Pressure votes are useless, that's dumb as shit Wiggles. I have a feeling Bluelightz is scum, but until I actually have time to create a case to prove it, the vote doesn't actually do anything because it's not backed up with anything. Actually, I invite anyone in this thread to read the entire exchange, I'll provide a link: Clicky! And see if they get the same read on this as Wiggles. He accuses me of not attacking bad posts, when I created the entire scenario just to drag up an answer from Bluelightz, he accuses me of not pressuring.... well, read the next 2 pages, and see what conclusion you come to. On January 06 2012 08:59 Mr. Wiggles wrote:So, I think Palmar is scum for his wishy-washiness, failure to provide any scum-reads, and for his timid posting and interactions. This is doubly condemning in the light of his normal town play, which is the complete opposite of what we see here. This is our Day 1 Lynch. No you are, because you cannot possibly be this bad. ##Vote: Mr. Wiggles | ||
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On January 06 2012 09:16 Erandorr wrote: Ya I probably should post sometime soon but I am really tired and want to sleep soon. If anyone has any question for me just go ahead, I will provide content of my own tomorrow. This guy should be shot during the night. | ||
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Do you not want to lynch wiggles? Did you read my omgus case? | ||
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Since I've only played with you as scum once where I haven't known you're scum, and figured it out in like half a day, I'm just gonna assume you're town for now. I do care, I was asking you to point out the meta, not the stuff in this thread, I guess I can go to election mafia and read his day 1 later. The read I had on him was "worthless, unsure it makes him scum". I was hoping you'd explain the meta so I don't have to think. The particular response you linked is correct and I agree with what risk.nuke is saying (there is actually no need to commit to a lynch) however, it's useless if he himself doesn't actually generate any discussion which he hasn't done. In addition, he claims to have had some sort of a plan? agenda? which is at best terrible, at worst scummy. There seems to actually be nothing to that plan. I'd like to hear him at least explain what the hell he was hoping to achieve by it. The reason I'm a bit on the fence about him is this: On January 06 2012 04:18 risk.nuke wrote: syllo, I started the post about 2 hours ago. I share what I want to share when I want to share it. Don't try and control me and please don't try to meta me. All my games I have a different style because I play varying of my mood. It's just... cocky enough to probably not be scummy. I guess I wouldn't mind him being shot. Did you actually read the parts where wiggles says things that are straight up wrong? | ||
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Syllogism has provided arguments as for why he thinks risk.nuke is scum, and is pushing me to agree with him. | ||
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don't try to meta me is certainly something scum would rather say than town, however in the context, it's basically null. Why are you forcing this so hard? If you think I'm town, and are town yourself, you know I will go find out if what you say is true, and you know that I do listen to you. You also know that I'm not just going to flop on something as solid as the case against wiggles. Do you actually think Wiggles says things that are factually wrong against a townie he knows is going to be valuable as town to attempt to get him lynched on day 1? No matter how you look at it Wiggles's play is completely anti-town, the only question is if that makes him scum (I guess the same goes for risk.nuke). Just convince other people, if people actually think your case against risk.nuke is stronger than mine against wiggles, they will vote it, and I will probably support it unless I find any damning evidence otherwise. None of the things I mentioned in risk's favor make him town, they just are kinda off as scum too. | ||
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On January 06 2012 20:34 syllogism wrote: I haven't said that I think you are town and thus having this discussion is helpful not only because I think risk.nuke should be lynched. What do you think about Erandorr? I know for a fact that he was playing dota 2 all day yesterday, even after he said he was too tired to post and wanted to sleep Not much to say about it. Can lynch him too, if we want a safe lynch with a high chance of hitting scum. | ||
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What is it in my case against wiggles that you agree with? Care to explain why you've come to the conclusion I'm right? | ||
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What do you think about my case against mr. wiggles? Can you explain further why you want to lynch grackaroni (I agree that his play is just... derp, so far, but why do you think so?) | ||
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On January 06 2012 22:35 Jackal58 wrote: Almost all of my day 1 posts attack Palmar. It's a habit. Not necessarily a bad one either. And do you think that's productive? Are you town? Do you think you're helping town progress right now? | ||
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On January 06 2012 22:53 syllogism wrote: How would he know that you are not scum even if he is scum? two families, right. Anyway, the point stands, he's not being useful. | ||
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@blaz, wiggles made a terrible case, but last 2 times he was scum i got him day 1, so i dont think hed have the balls to do this day 1. erandorr not playing is very good reason to think hes scum. @town, if i get lynched, check syllogism very well. the fact he hasnt changed his stance after i started posting alot makes him look bad. jackal and wiggles tunneling me is not a scumtell, however jackal is a very good dt check. will try to post list of reads, cba on phone though, might be able to when im home. | ||
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On January 07 2012 08:21 Blazinghand wrote: Does anyone have a series of links to games Palmar's been town/scum in or do i have to do this manually my profile or just every game last 8 months | ||
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So the conclusion becomes, yes he is just that bad. It would be incredibly ballsy of him to do what he did as scum, thus it's actually more likely that he's just wrong. That's the reason I've changed my mind. | ||
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Cwave, what do you think about risk? Do you think his plan was reasonable? | ||
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On January 08 2012 05:26 risk.nuke wrote: Palmar what question are you waiting for me to answer? On January 08 2012 04:25 Palmar wrote: But do you honestly think passively talking about what's happening is the most helpful way of moving a discussion forward? Compare that to for example what I did with bluelightz where I ask direct questions that force him to commit. In addition, tell me why you hate day 1 of mafia games. Is this a view you have expressed before? To me it doesn't make sense, do you actually think you had a plan, that was worth being mad at syllo about for ruining? To me, it looks like your plan was simply this: so I wrote a few thoughts that wouldn't get either of them lynched but rather to just fuel the discussion. Which isn't much of a plan to me. At least no worth this On January 06 2012 04:56 risk.nuke wrote: Then I wanted to see who would comment on it further, what they would say, who would push for their lynch etc. What the hell are you doing? commenting on how useless I am when you don't know my agenda which you just ruined because you didn't think it through. Or were you planning on pushing for my lynch today. Cause if you weren't there is nothing pro-town about calling me out. Do you think people should not be called out when they don't post or post overly passive? | ||
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On January 08 2012 05:30 risk.nuke wrote: Palmar what do you think of Dirkzor? Very likely town | ||
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On January 08 2012 06:06 risk.nuke wrote: @Palmar: about syllogism post no I don't thinbk he should had called me out for reasons I already stated. Why not? Do you dislike the attention? I mean, if you're town you have nothing to hide... | ||
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"I'll comment on the situation and see how people respond". Which isn't much of a plan. I actually can't acknowledge that is a plan. Almost every player in the game does this, comments on something and observes response. Where and how do you draw the line on when it's acceptable to call people out? | ||
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On January 06 2012 04:56 risk.nuke wrote: Syllogism, there are two days left why woudl I commit to lynching this soon. I took the topics of the time and wrote my thoughts on them. Then I wanted to see who would comment on it further, what they would say, who would push for their lynch etc. What the hell are you doing? commenting on how useless I am when you don't know my agenda which you just ruined because you didn't think it through. Or were you planning on pushing for my lynch today. Cause if you weren't there is nothing pro-town about calling me out. I'm town and you're forcing me to reveal what I wanted to do. If I had been scum you would had just tipped me off instead of saving it for a case you would write against me. On January 08 2012 04:15 risk.nuke wrote: @Palmar you wanted to know about my ridiculous idea. Well prepare yourself for ridiculousness. At the time I was having a blast sitting up there anonymous reading every word people were saying. It was a great discussion to. Due to my habit of vetoing the first bandwagon on principle with few exeptions I wasn't going to lynch bluelightz, Refallan I was actually slightly suspicious of. Anyway the discussion had pretty much slowed down so I wrote a few thoughts that wouldn't get either of them lynched but rather to just fuel the discussion. I was also having an eye on blazinghand back then (yeah don't worry I've dropped him, butI though he was fishy at the time) I hate day 1 and I just wanted to get as much information as I could hoping I might find a good case against odds. | ||
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##Vote: risk.nuke | ||
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On January 08 2012 08:53 syllogism wrote: Palmar why won't you switch? Will you switch if we can get enough? Erandorr has done nothing this game that warrants me giving him the "I'll rather no-lynch than lynch a townie" treatment, however, despite risk's last effort, do you not think he overreacted to you calling him out? Claiming that plan that literally was nothing but "I'm gonna post and see what people say", do you think he is honestly under the impression that this "plan" was so pro-town and vital, that it justifies attacking someone? I actually thought risk.nuke was decent at the game. But to answer your question, I'll be around for another half an hour or so, and there is no reason to protect erandorr. | ||
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For the record I did try to hammer him, but I was too slow. | ||
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On January 08 2012 09:58 Jackal58 wrote: Oh cool. RoL has some plan. We're all fucking saved. hey, do something useful. | ||
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Think hard about whatever roles you want to use tonight. | ||
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On January 09 2012 04:45 Dirkzor wrote: See, all i have is your word for it. But i guess we can lynch him and if he flips town we lynch you... I'm actually fine with that. There's increasingly little chance syllo is town. Can you do me a favor and make sure you kill jackal who has taken tunneling me as an excuse for not contributing too? That'd be grand. | ||
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Blazinghand, Cwave, Dirkzor, layabout, RebirthOfLeGenD, Spaackle, Zephirdd and Mr. Wiggles are town. | ||
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