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If you don't have time, you don't join games. If something comes up during the game, you sub out. This is the first time in 9 days you post something that actually matters. Do you think that is acceptable? You've had several 24 hour periods of inactivity, even after being warned about it (for some reason you didn't get force replaced).
Some parts of your case against blazing are laughable. His bullying makes people less likely to challenge him or sheep him? It certainly makes people more likely to ignore him, but other than that it's nonsense. This would be his first game as scum and second game overall. Is this the kind of play you would expect from his first play as scum? Did you look at his Student mafia filter?
He certainly is open and aggressive about his reads, even if they are all poorly supported; unfortunately I would need to know if I can expect him to make sense for that to be anything more than a null. Some aspects of his play do look suspicious, but especially with 5 scum still left he is a very bad lynch.
What do you think about Jackal? Tyrran? Grackaroni? HoD? What do you think AoD did on night 1?
I'm not sure how much effort I'll bother putting into the game today. Some (at least mostly) townies have been basically actively sabotaging the game. Not to say I've played well as my posts have lacked in content, been spammy and I've been wrong several times. However at least I've made it clear that I care about game, care about who is being lynched and established my innocence quite early to anyone with a pair of eyes.
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Though I've to say that based on Blazing's student mafia filter, he seemed a lot less stupid and more rational
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I'm back guys but I'm leaving in a sec.
Anyway, I'm gonna post a analysis of some post's by Grack and Spaackle
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On January 13 2012 05:22 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:
3 demons, 1 town, 3 angels, not 2 angels. Unrealistic, yes. But just proving the point that demons don't mind townies being dead. Also shows that even if they don't get angels killed early on, as long as they stay alive any death brings them closer to winning. Nowhere does it say if the hit/lynch is on vanilla town - just on town in general, but if you think their corruption being slightly more likely to fail is their primary concern, I think you are quite mistaken. The longer this game goes on with the demon hunter and sage alive, the more likely they are to lose, regardless of their ability to corrupt. They can't kill those people themselves, so they either need to mislynch them, or hope the angels hit them. Assuming the angels use their acolyte to try to kill people with dark powers, which I assure you they will, the proportion of blues will go down, not up. Yes, the sage can't be killed with that, but he can be killed by the AoD, and I doubt the demons would mind the demon hunter or channeler ending up dead.
You stress they need those players alive to count for their win condition, which is true, but you ignore the other half of their win condition. They/their corrupted minions need to outnumber the remaining players in the game. So they want the number of remaining players to be as small as possible.
tl;dr: Holy fuck they don't need to corrupt anyone to win this game, and they want to survive while everyone else dies, not make this game last a bajillion days.
First of all : "Assuming the angels use their acolyte to try to kill people with dark powers, which I assure you they will " If this isnt a angel claim, then i dont know what it is. Do what you want with your acolyte, but I really do not see why blues are priority target and demons/corrupted town are not. Killing the DH early would be really bad for angels. Killing a corrupted town however is really good for them. Why wouldnt they try to reduce the demons voting power ?
Secondly : Wtf if this tl:dr ? Demons should win without using corrupt ? Are you going to argue next that Angels should win wihtout killing anyone ? I look forward to you hosting a normal game where scum has no KP and town has vigs because " well scum can just survive while everyone else dies".
Thirdly : On January 13 2012 15:11 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:
Trolololol.
This is your ultimate argument ? That my case against you did not fullfill the Syllogism's standard and therefore is, I quote : "Trolololol". Well, that sure makes you look town.
Lastly : So Syllo is not AoD. Would the AoD have targeted Syllo N1 ? If you consider that 1) Syllo was very likely getting banished and 2) Syllo was pushing for lynching 3 non angel target ( palmar(Demon), Erandorr(VT), Risk(VT), ). There was absolutely no reason for AoD to shoot him N1. So either you are AoD, or he shot you. The only reason he would have shot you is by shooting randomly ( as you had no reason to be killed prior to any other player), meaning there was a 1/10th of a chance that you would get hit.
So it boils down to this: Either you are AoD, or you got shot which had about 10% chance of happening. Well, math says that there is 90% chance you are AoD.
Conclusion : You keep telling non sense, you claim angel, you decide to go troll morde, logic says you are AoD. You should be lynched today.
##Vote HoD
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On January 13 2012 21:27 Bluelightz wrote:
I'm back guys but I'm leaving in a sec.
Anyway, I'm gonna post a analysis of some post's by Grack and Spaackle
On January 13 2012 21:28 Bluelightz wrote:
When I get back
This is twice. You don't get a 3rd.
##Vote: Bluelightz
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I don't think BH is nearly as pro-town as people think he is.
On January 08 2012 08:56 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2012 08:53 syllogism wrote:
Palmar why won't you switch? Will you switch if we can get enough? Erandorr has done nothing this game that warrants me giving him the "I'll rather no-lynch than lynch a townie" treatment, however, despite risk's last effort, do you not think he overreacted to you calling him out? Claiming that plan that literally was nothing but "I'm gonna post and see what people say", do you think he is honestly under the impression that this "plan" was so pro-town and vital, that it justifies attacking someone? I actually thought risk.nuke was decent at the game. But to answer your question, I'll be around for another half an hour or so, and there is no reason to protect erandorr.
On January 08 2012 09:02 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2012 08:56 Palmar wrote:On January 08 2012 08:53 syllogism wrote:
Palmar why won't you switch? Will you switch if we can get enough? Erandorr has done nothing this game No this is wrong Erandorr has actively come to the thread and hustled us. Why on earth are his actions remotely acceptable
There have been times in this game where BH has blatantly not read the thread or is misinterpreting posts.
He likes to focus in on people who he feels are useless such as his case for Bluelightz (which only showed that he was anti-town) his case on erandorr (he ignores the meta which only proves that he is inactive and doesn't want to be modkilled) and finally his case on RoL (he's not scumhunting, his plan looks shitty)
You are not actually scumhunting, you just lock in on people acting anti-town and tunnel them for the rest of the day to make yourself look good. you grab all their quotes and make a "case" but in reality it actually resembles what bluelightz' cases look like.
Your play is legitimately worse than in Student.
I am still suspicious of how long it took RoL to start scumhunting but at least he finally started.
@BH: why not look into a player more active rather than only focusing on players doing nothing? there's 5 scum to catch.
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Jackal RoL made promises too and didn't keep them. Are you not up to lynching him? What about dirkzor, your previous random vote you never bothered to push or justify? If you've to choose between Tyrran and RoL today, which one will you be voting?
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@Syllo: what are your thoughts on spaackle? He looks pretty scummy to me but you didn't mention him.
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I'm not answering your questions. Feel free to, however, tell me your own personal preferences. It's very much appreciated.
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I'm typing up the post right now.
@Grack Before I post my analysis, Who would you lynch if you couldn't lynch RoL
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The Q&A post has been updated with new questions and their answers
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On January 14 2012 00:27 Bluelightz wrote:
Hmm, why?
If you want to make a case on me you could at least read my filter...
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On January 13 2012 19:47 syllogism wrote:
If you don't have time, you don't join games. If something comes up during the game, you sub out. This is the first time in 9 days you post something that actually matters. Do you think that is acceptable? You've had several 24 hour periods of inactivity, even after being warned about it (for some reason you didn't get force replaced).
Some parts of your case against blazing are laughable. His bullying makes people less likely to challenge him or sheep him? It certainly makes people more likely to ignore him, but other than that it's nonsense. This would be his first game as scum and second game overall. Is this the kind of play you would expect from his first play as scum? Did you look at his Student mafia filter?
He certainly is open and aggressive about his reads, even if they are all poorly supported; unfortunately I would need to know if I can expect him to make sense for that to be anything more than a null. Some aspects of his play do look suspicious, but especially with 5 scum still left he is a very bad lynch.
What do you think about Jackal? Tyrran? Grackaroni? HoD? What do you think AoD did on night 1?
I'm not sure how much effort I'll bother putting into the game today. Some (at least mostly) townies have been basically actively sabotaging the game. Not to say I've played well as my posts have lacked in content, been spammy and I've been wrong several times. However at least I've made it clear that I care about game, care about who is being lynched and established my innocence quite early to anyone with a pair of eyes.
I don't have time to flood a game with 16 pages of posts but I have time to play more or less. I got warned for one 36 hour period of inactivity. And I spent my whole activity arguing with BH over dumb shit because he wouldn't stop, so maybe I should of. I didn't even get to finish a part of my case on him because I had to go out and was already a half hour late.
I don't see how you can not realize what the purpose and intent behind his aggressive dismissive posting is, or realize what effect that has. I have used it before as mafia to get my way, its effective. This isn't something you can disagree or agree with, its an actual style and method used to get your way and it works even better with his spammy style since it gets reinforced.
I said I have more reads to get into today but I ran out of time, I don't think you appreciate how long it look to read a 16 page filter and write that analysis.
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On January 14 2012 00:18 syllogism wrote:
Jackal RoL made promises too and didn't keep them. Are you not up to lynching him? What about dirkzor, your previous random vote you never bothered to push or justify? If you've to choose between Tyrran and RoL today, which one will you be voting?
Don't say shit that's not true.
I have fulfilled on every single promise I made. I said I was finishing up responsibility and would pick up when the game ended, look when the game ended and when I started posting. I said that my first major contribution was going to be a plan I have been trying to wrap my head around and it was, and it was posted when I said it would be. I gave a timeframe in which I would be around that day to explain/defend my plan and I was there to do so. I told you guys that I would be around and post an analysis within the last 15 hours and I did.
So please, before you shoot from the hip with no reasoning see that I followed through with everything I ever said I would do.
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It looks like Rol has at last made some analysis, and other players have some questions for me as well. I'm going to get started by responding to RoL's so-called "case" against me, then evaluate whether overall I think this makes him more or less likely to be scum. Then I'll put together a post addressing the other people's concerns.
If I were RoL this is where I'd say "brb 3 hours" then come back on Tuesday 
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Jackal.. Have you forgotten me? I was so used to your devoted attention!
Assuming Wiggles was town, and i assume that, it puts more pressure on RoL. That was the last person that Wiggles talked about (and attacking me about). Combine that with a wall-of-text case that is actually not very big in terms of content I see RoL as more scummy then before he started scumhunting. His case is just not good, its just long so it appears to be good/solid. Long is not always better.
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