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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 06 2012 23:27 GMT
#541
On January 07 2012 08:21 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 08:18 Palmar wrote:
give me an example of you being on the receiving end oh wait you cant


Does anyone have a series of links to games Palmar's been town/scum in or do i have to do this manually


my profile or just every game last 8 months
Computer says mafia
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
January 06 2012 23:29 GMT
#542
OK have you taken a look at my reasoning about you? I literally don't know what your meta is. I kinda don't care what it is, but I want to look it up to see if Wiggles is straight-up wrong in addition to being bad at making cases.

I'm just assuming you're good. Would you like to respond to my case?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
January 06 2012 23:33 GMT
#543
We should lynch erandorr/risk/tyrran today, regardless of how scummy you think palmar is being. The fact people don't seem to be willing to hop on those wagons despite me repeatedly giving them an opportunity to do so is suspicious. If palmar is scum, he has two scum mates who should be looking for alternative wagons by now. It's of course quite possible that his team mates are on that list but regardless lynching one of those 3 is better day 1 play.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
January 06 2012 23:39 GMT
#544
._. Palmar was pretty happy to abandon his "Mr. Wiggles cannot possibly be this bad" statement and hop on the Erandorr wagon. The fact of the matter is, 11 people have voted but 7 have not. It's not like people are hopping onto different wagons than the one you offer, or are posting or trying to bus Palmar or whatever. A lack of response from hypothetical teammates could well be because they're asleep, or at work, or biding their time, or maybe they ARE among the 7 players who have voted who didn't vote for Palmar.

Or maybe they're trying to get those wagons started so they look safe, or are waiting for them to start.

Examine Palmar's responses following my case. Do these look like legitimate responses to you? No he's basically dicking around. My vote is staying on him until he gives me an adequate response.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
January 06 2012 23:40 GMT
#545
On January 07 2012 04:24 risk.nuke wrote:
The thread have really come to a stop since yesterday. I'll write my opinion on who to lynch tonight when I have time to review. You may or may not look forward to it. I don't know if it will be "mindblowing" or "meh".

I am just hoping to see this before i go off to bed.
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
January 06 2012 23:40 GMT
#546
Got bussy writing the daypost for newbie mafia. I'm here now.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
January 06 2012 23:41 GMT
#547
Just so that everyone knows, I'm in the process of replacing xsksc
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 06 2012 23:48 GMT
#548
youre not getting detailed response. im posting on phone and your case was poste 23ish my time or something when im home im going to sleep.
Computer says mafia
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
January 06 2012 23:51 GMT
#549
On January 07 2012 08:48 Palmar wrote:
youre not getting detailed response. im posting on phone and your case was poste 23ish my time or something when im home im going to sleep.


I can wait. I can empathize with the horrors of attempting to post via phone. I will be awake when you wake up, probably, and I'll definitely be awake in the hours leading up to the lynch deadline.

It's fairly late in Europe right now, ok-- but will you adequately respond to my post when you get the chance?

Because I've heard good things about defending yourself.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
January 06 2012 23:57 GMT
#550
Oh yeah and also we're about 24 hours away from lynch time, which means you've got a relatively limited window in which you can be assured everyone will be able to read your posts, respond, and get responses back. So sooner is better than later.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 06 2012 23:59 GMT
#551
oh i thought lynch was in 6 hours in that case ill tell you why youre terrible
Computer says mafia
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
January 07 2012 00:03 GMT
#552
On December 28 2011 15:42 ZBot wrote:

The Day 1 deadline is at January 08 2012 10:00. (That's approximately 1 day, 1:02:42 from now.)


We've got 25 hours.

Please, tell me why I'm terrible.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
January 07 2012 00:04 GMT
#553
Erandorr is very likely scum. Simply because a non-posting Erandorr is a red Erandorr.

Jackal58 is another person who would likely bleed red. The first thing he does is attack palmar and keeps at it using tunneling and fearmongering, while I am also slightly leaning red on palmar I don't think Jackal would hit him this hard if Jackal was town-aligned, he's just trying to get rid of palmar any means neccersary. He justifys it by saying he always attack palmar day 1 but I think this is just an excuse. He takes a break from his Palmar tunneling to rightfully rage alittle on people listing no-reads but it doesn't mean anything and he haven't contributed anything himself exept tunneling palmar.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
January 07 2012 00:10 GMT
#554
On January 07 2012 09:04 risk.nuke wrote:
Erandorr is very likely scum. Simply because a non-posting Erandorr is a red Erandorr.

Jackal58 is another person who would likely bleed red. The first thing he does is attack palmar and keeps at it using tunneling and fearmongering, while I am also slightly leaning red on palmar I don't think Jackal would hit him this hard if Jackal was town-aligned, he's just trying to get rid of palmar any means neccersary. He justifys it by saying he always attack palmar day 1 but I think this is just an excuse. He takes a break from his Palmar tunneling to rightfully rage alittle on people listing no-reads but it doesn't mean anything and he haven't contributed anything himself exept tunneling palmar.

It may not be your style to post a lot day1 but perhaps your could elaborate.
Other than relative inactivity what make Erandorr scum?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
January 07 2012 00:12 GMT
#555
On January 07 2012 09:10 layabout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 09:04 risk.nuke wrote:
Erandorr is very likely scum. Simply because a non-posting Erandorr is a red Erandorr.

Jackal58 is another person who would likely bleed red. The first thing he does is attack palmar and keeps at it using tunneling and fearmongering, while I am also slightly leaning red on palmar I don't think Jackal would hit him this hard if Jackal was town-aligned, he's just trying to get rid of palmar any means neccersary. He justifys it by saying he always attack palmar day 1 but I think this is just an excuse. He takes a break from his Palmar tunneling to rightfully rage alittle on people listing no-reads but it doesn't mean anything and he haven't contributed anything himself exept tunneling palmar.

It may not be your style to post a lot day1 but perhaps your could elaborate.
Other than relative inactivity what make Erandorr scum?

The fact that every post he makes is hustlin us?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Tyrran
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
France777 Posts
January 07 2012 00:12 GMT
#556
On January 07 2012 07:47 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:
Well, it appears as though xsksc is no longer playing this game, as his last post was: January 04 2012 23:24.

I don't like lynching lurkers, but from what I know of Erandorr, his lurking makes him likely to be scum, and I do like lynching scum. Barring him showing an actual commitment to playing, I would be fine with lynching him.

On risk.nuke, his playstyle seems to vary a good deal between games, so I am not sold on him being scum yet and would certainly like to hear a bit more from him before deciding whether or not I think he is worth a lynch.

Tyrran
Tyrran's play seems very different from his play in steamship where he was town. He is being much less aggressive so far, and usually people are more aggressive as town than they are as scum. I think he would make a fine lynch for the day. My only qualm with lynching him is that he hasn't interacted with other players much so far, so his flip will be less revealing, but I like our odds of hitting scum here. My vote will be on him for now.

His steamship filter:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=282366&user=57176
His filter so far this game:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=298603&user=57176

##Vote: Tyrran


If you read steamship mafia, you'll notice i wasnt really active before I had some hard fact to analyse ( ie kenpachi lynch). I'm not good at analysing Meta, because its only my second game here. Half the accusation here are made on meta. I'm looking for contradictions, votes, something i can work on. I dont like making case for the sake on making one. I'll make a case after day 1, when i'll have more info to work with.
Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
January 07 2012 00:12 GMT
#557
@HoD + Show Spoiler +
If someone beside HoD is reading this, the question I am answering is "why I thought Bluelightz play as scum would be bad for town?"
I really hate the quote formating inside of the spoiler so I'm going to avoid posting long quotes from student.
On December 14 2011 09:44 Bluelightz wrote:
sorry just didnt feel like posting (>_<)
On December 08 2011 00:05 Bluelightz wrote:
PS: if i don't post much it's because I don't really have a good scumread on anyone if I do I'll post my analysis

On December 14 2011 15:57 Bluelightz wrote:
sorry BH, didnt notice your case till now so,

##Vote: Tunkeg

BH, is there any other of his posts that make you have a scumread on him?

also, after looking @ BHs case m mind is decided for this day

On December 08 2011 18:57 Bluelightz wrote:
ey215 is leaning scum, when he says

I Am Town


but then, I quote Grackaroni

On December 07 2011 03:43 Grackaroni wrote:

NOBODY IS A CONFIRMED TOWNIE



He openly showed no issue with lurking
He openly sheep's other people
Further when he posts his own cases they always end up being null.
sometimes he took completely random parts of our posts out and used them for the main basis of his read.
Maybe he did most of these things purely because he was scum but I think he could at least realize that his play wasn't resembling pro-town play



Anyways if you really want to I could go over everyone one of his posts from the last game and tell you what bugged me about them. But the point is that I should not have based his entire play off of only one game from him as scum, and I shouldn't have brought my annoyance with his last game's performance into this game either. Now I get to focus on the game that is actually being played instead of going over this old one.


As for Palmar I don't think the meta can conclude that he is scum and he seems much more willing to contribute than errandor.
palmar could be our best scumhunter and I don't think a day1 meta read should be enough to risk killing one of our best players
Besides people are downplaying his scum play so somebody explain to me why people keep saying that it will be scary if Palmar is scum?

On January 07 2012 08:26 Palmar wrote:
people on my wagon need to take a long hard look at their play. sheeping activity meta is fucking terrible. when i flip theres no excuse. no "well he played scummy". the only reason youre voting me is youre terrible and cant think. because none of you have anything.

I'm going to assume that your issue is the sheeping and not that the case is built off of meta because you are voting for Errandor because of activity meta while criticizing other people for doing the same thing to you.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
January 07 2012 00:13 GMT
#558
On January 07 2012 09:12 Grackaroni wrote:
@HoD + Show Spoiler +
If someone beside HoD is reading this, the question I am answering is "why I thought Bluelightz play as scum would be bad for town?"
I really hate the quote formating inside of the spoiler so I'm going to avoid posting long quotes from student.
On December 14 2011 09:44 Bluelightz wrote:
sorry just didnt feel like posting (>_<)
On December 08 2011 00:05 Bluelightz wrote:
PS: if i don't post much it's because I don't really have a good scumread on anyone if I do I'll post my analysis

On December 14 2011 15:57 Bluelightz wrote:
sorry BH, didnt notice your case till now so,

##Vote: Tunkeg

BH, is there any other of his posts that make you have a scumread on him?

also, after looking @ BHs case m mind is decided for this day

On December 08 2011 18:57 Bluelightz wrote:
ey215 is leaning scum, when he says

I Am Town


but then, I quote Grackaroni

On December 07 2011 03:43 Grackaroni wrote:

NOBODY IS A CONFIRMED TOWNIE



He openly showed no issue with lurking
He openly sheep's other people
Further when he posts his own cases they always end up being null.
sometimes he took completely random parts of our posts out and used them for the main basis of his read.
Maybe he did most of these things purely because he was scum but I think he could at least realize that his play wasn't resembling pro-town play



Anyways if you really want to I could go over everyone one of his posts from the last game and tell you what bugged me about them. But the point is that I should not have based his entire play off of only one game from him as scum, and I shouldn't have brought my annoyance with his last game's performance into this game either. Now I get to focus on the game that is actually being played instead of going over this old one.


As for Palmar I don't think the meta can conclude that he is scum and he seems much more willing to contribute than errandor.
palmar could be our best scumhunter and I don't think a day1 meta read should be enough to risk killing one of our best players
Besides people are downplaying his scum play so somebody explain to me why people keep saying that it will be scary if Palmar is scum?

Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 08:26 Palmar wrote:
people on my wagon need to take a long hard look at their play. sheeping activity meta is fucking terrible. when i flip theres no excuse. no "well he played scummy". the only reason youre voting me is youre terrible and cant think. because none of you have anything.

I'm going to assume that your issue is the sheeping and not that the case is built off of meta because you are voting for Errandor because of activity meta while criticizing other people for doing the same thing to you.


I'm just gonna note that Errandor's level of activity, while unacceptably low, is not the issue. The issue is that he is keeping up the hustle on us
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
January 07 2012 00:15 GMT
#559
Man you know what Palmar we will have to discuss this later I can't let a known hustler escape so easily

but I've got my eye on you

##vote E-dawg
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
January 07 2012 00:15 GMT
#560
Blazinghand what are you on about?
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
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