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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On December 14 2011 11:41 Radfield wrote: I think risk looks pretty town right now. I think he legitimately suspects you curu. Bad lynch in my eyes. Oh because Rad said so. Makes sense. Radfield, can you explain how risk looks town to you? Like, could you explain a townie motivation for the Why? post I just quoted a bit ago? | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On December 15 2011 08:02 risk.nuke wrote: No he was saying I am red. And his case builds around the fact that MrZentor and Nisani is scum and I'm their scumbuddy coming to protect them. No, I'm building a case based around your scummy bullshit bro. I never said they were red (and yes, I realize I'm Nisani). What I said was you were putting a stop to their lynch with your post, though I can see how you'd think that's what I meant. I was saying that the way you were going about stopping the lynch was scummy. | ||
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
On December 15 2011 08:06 VisceraEyes wrote: No, I'm building a case based around your scummy bullshit bro. I never said they were red (and yes, I realize I'm Nisani). What I said was you were putting a stop to their lynch with your post, though I can see how you'd think that's what I meant. I was saying that the way you were going about stopping the lynch was scummy. So your case is I'm scummy because I'm stopping a lynch on two townies, okey now I get your logic. | ||
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MrZentor
United States1648 Posts
On December 15 2011 08:02 risk.nuke wrote: No he was saying I am red. And his case builds around the fact that MrZentor and Nisani is scum and I'm their scumbuddy coming to protect them. Really, because I want nuke dead. He acted like acro purposely resigned from office, then tried to get it himself. MAFIA He said I shouldn't think his mafia, because he stopped people from bandwagonning me. He didn't do anything, people still bandwagonned me. He wants to make it looks like he did a lot of good without actually doing any good. MAFIA I am pretty sure we will get a scum if we lynch him in the day. | ||
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GiygaS
Canada1043 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On December 14 2011 23:53 Radfield wrote: hahahahaha so awesome. So VE, what do you think of Arctocod? Null. I've found myself agreeing more than disagreeing with him so far and that's refreshing. What do you think of Arctocod? | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On December 15 2011 08:07 risk.nuke wrote: So your case is I'm scummy because I'm stopping a lynch on two townies, okey now I get your logic. LOL No. That's not my point...although I have to ask, what makes you so certain that Zentor and I are townies? Seriously, inquiring minds want to know. That's information that only we and scum have, so explain how you've come across it with such certainty that you try and use it as a defense of my argument? | ||
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
On December 15 2011 08:25 VisceraEyes wrote: LOL No. That's not my point...although I have to ask, what makes you so certain that Zentor and I are townies? Seriously, inquiring minds want to know. That's information that only we and scum have, so explain how you've come across it with such certainty that you try and use it as a defense of my argument? I'm not sure on you beeing townies, but since you're the ones accusing me I think you should have have arguments that doesn't involve you beeing mafia. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
On December 15 2011 08:30 VisceraEyes wrote: /facepalm No you're the bloody facepalm, the fucking shit I have to put up with from you and fucking zentor. I'm getting an idea to why palmar wanted you shot. | ||
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GiygaS
Canada1043 Posts
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GiygaS
Canada1043 Posts
On December 14 2011 03:31 GiygaS wrote: So first of all I'm confused on how a lynch on graymist would reveal info on me :/ You didn't really explain that at all risk. So the evidence against me is that I'm only speaking fluff and because I FoSed Dropbear... First of all @Dropbear, I FoSed you because of other people's evidence as well which I did put in that little compilation, I was just mentionning that one of our leading scumhunters had already mentionned you early in the thread, you know adding some info that may have been forgotten. Just because you've now voted for me doesn't mean I'm dropping my FoS on you BTW. Next people(or Dropbear, as other people are saying some of my posts are sort of useful), are saying my posts are fluff. I disagree. My post was meant as a clarification on the things about Pardoner and Mayor so that we could move on. If you look in to the context and don't just filter, a lot of people were also worried about similar things at the same time (including you risk) and actually a lot of the info that I posted there was brought up as new info later on (wait mayor cant echnically vote 3 times!!!!) My talk about LaL was answering a question, where I was elaborating on my own thoughts (yeah you can lie if you're blue, but don't make petty lies like the one I had an example of). My talks about Pardoner aws actually something I wanted done, and people opposed to it, so now I've dropped it. Risk, you even brought up an idea for exceptions too. Which you then had a complete role reversal on as soon as people seem opposed to my ideas on a more specific idea (care to explain that one?) You then later stated that forbidding pardoning is stupid and should be used at that player's discretion (which is better than a current majority how?) Anyway, I'm getting off-topic: Yo, I'm innocent. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On December 15 2011 08:37 GiygaS wrote: Risk, you're kind of sidestepping my points... Yes, could you respond to GiygaS points against you? I mean, you act like I've put you through the ringer, and I only JUST finished reading the thread - I haven't yet begun to tunnel you. Your repeated logical fallacies and appeals are only confirming my read on you. You're fucking caught bro, and I think town will agree with me by dusk tomorrow. Just sayin. | ||
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
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MarserBlood
Netherlands28 Posts
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GiygaS
Canada1043 Posts
On December 15 2011 08:49 risk.nuke wrote: Gigyas you said I contradicted myself by dissagreeing with something you said. You wrote what I said but what did you say I can't find it. + Show Spoiler + On December 13 2011 05:00 GiygaS wrote: I have already stated that I would want an exception to the no pardon rule (before anyone else actually, I stated that the pardoner rule should only be used in aforementioned exceptions). I'm just thinking of a hypothetical situations that we suddenly get a really strong scum-read on somebody, and the majority of people in the thread want to lynch this new guy, but there are a lot of inactives who can't switch their vote because they are afk. Basically, we want to regulate these kind of exceptions so that we don't have no direction when these sitautions arise. This is what I want: When the Pardoner should Pardon: In a period of time of 30 minutes to 3 hours before the lynch, a pardoner can commence an unofficial voting session . All those active int he thread at this time will HAVE to vote either Yes or No to pardon the person in quesiton. This keeps the pardoner power in the hands of the town, and keeps things by and large under control. If anyone has any doubts ont his subject, bring them up, and we may want to change some of the restrictions on this. If there's a stituation that this rule did not think of, I would really feel bad  On the subject of rules for elected officials: I believe mayoral candidates should declare who their hidden vote is for. The benefits simply outweigh the negatives. Sure, the mafia gets a better idea of the voting situation, but it gives the mayor far more transparency, and gives us ability to monitor and regulate these powerful roles. On the subject of campaigns, I'm going to be voting for Radfield/Arctocod.and more specifically Arctocod. I feel he's being more transparent than Radfield, and has been raising some good points with good logic. I feel like Radfield has kind of said canned start of game sort of stuff so far, so i don't have any reason to think he's mafia, but I'm not convinced he's totally town either. Again, I'm leaning more int eh way that he's town because he brought up another very good palyer so quickly, who I would believe would be a threat to him if he was a mafia. On to the subject of who I want to vote: I'll be be putting my tentative lynch vote on Zeks. This will turn in to a real vote if I come back in 3 hours and no new info has really been unveilied/no info that's an easy analysis for a lynch. The points against him have been pointed out by Deus-Ex, he wanted to vote a hydra off for really no reason, other than what I can see that he's threatened by them (a mafia would be threatened!) He also dissappeared for a while, and when he returned, he just quickly answered a quesiton, and didn't either reference or defend his accusations. There ya go. | ||
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
On December 15 2011 08:54 GiygaS wrote: + Show Spoiler + On December 13 2011 05:00 GiygaS wrote: I have already stated that I would want an exception to the no pardon rule (before anyone else actually, I stated that the pardoner rule should only be used in aforementioned exceptions). I'm just thinking of a hypothetical situations that we suddenly get a really strong scum-read on somebody, and the majority of people in the thread want to lynch this new guy, but there are a lot of inactives who can't switch their vote because they are afk. Basically, we want to regulate these kind of exceptions so that we don't have no direction when these sitautions arise. This is what I want: When the Pardoner should Pardon: In a period of time of 30 minutes to 3 hours before the lynch, a pardoner can commence an unofficial voting session . All those active int he thread at this time will HAVE to vote either Yes or No to pardon the person in quesiton. This keeps the pardoner power in the hands of the town, and keeps things by and large under control. If anyone has any doubts ont his subject, bring them up, and we may want to change some of the restrictions on this. If there's a stituation that this rule did not think of, I would really feel bad On the subject of rules for elected officials: I believe mayoral candidates should declare who their hidden vote is for. The benefits simply outweigh the negatives. Sure, the mafia gets a better idea of the voting situation, but it gives the mayor far more transparency, and gives us ability to monitor and regulate these powerful roles. On the subject of campaigns, I'm going to be voting for Radfield/Arctocod.and more specifically Arctocod. I feel he's being more transparent than Radfield, and has been raising some good points with good logic. I feel like Radfield has kind of said canned start of game sort of stuff so far, so i don't have any reason to think he's mafia, but I'm not convinced he's totally town either. Again, I'm leaning more int eh way that he's town because he brought up another very good palyer so quickly, who I would believe would be a threat to him if he was a mafia. On to the subject of who I want to vote: I'll be be putting my tentative lynch vote on Zeks. This will turn in to a real vote if I come back in 3 hours and no new info has really been unveilied/no info that's an easy analysis for a lynch. The points against him have been pointed out by Deus-Ex, he wanted to vote a hydra off for really no reason, other than what I can see that he's threatened by them (a mafia would be threatened!) He also dissappeared for a while, and when he returned, he just quickly answered a quesiton, and didn't either reference or defend his accusations. There ya go. What I ment were reasons for the pardoner to SINGLEHANDEDLY decide if he wanted to pardon if something suspicious happens. But he should be aware that an (judged by the town) inadequate reason will get him lynched. You're saying that it should be decided by majority by those present. I | ||
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Eiii
United States2566 Posts
On December 15 2011 00:31 prplhz wrote: I think it is weird that Nisani201 wasn't lynched last night, when MrZentor was shot down he should have been a very easy guy to switch to but his wagon never picked up speed and instead a ton of people jumped on Spaaackle. Why the blatant contradiction? Nisani201 didn't do ANYTHING in between these two posts. Yep! I changed my mind, and him doing nothing was exactly what made me flip on him. I played with him in his first game a while back, and he played more or less exactly as he did now-- inactive, and pretty useless. I had expected him to develop as a player in that time... but once his name got brought up and I started actually paying more attention to his posts (or lack thereof) it became pretty clear that he was playing exactly the same as when I first played with him. I still think him/visc are town, and Visc instead of him is a pretty big win in my book. On December 15 2011 01:39 Arctocod wrote: Hello Eiii prplhz pointed out your radical change of mind. you should be receiving your gift soon enough. Please accept it, or the consequences for you will be... mortal. On December 15 2011 02:29 GiygaS wrote: Eii, I sent you a package with the same contents as Arc's, we want to know your opinion on this info. I've only received one package! Anyway, this is probably the meanest mechanic in any game I've played because there's like an 80% chance that this'll blow up and kill me and a 0% chance that I'll be able to resist opening the box either way. If I die, I'm going to be making a very angry face at you two. HERE WE GO | ||
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GiygaS
Canada1043 Posts
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Eiii
United States2566 Posts
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