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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
On December 12 2011 07:12 Jackal58 wrote: If Annul is town I'd say scum is already on him "full strength" TBH a good scum team wouldn't jump with EVERY SINGLE PLAYER on the same player for a lynch. There are 8 players voting for annul right now, and I really doubt 6 of these are scum; that would make the only town voting on him me and Palmar(from my POV). | ||
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annul
United States2841 Posts
but theyre still here. and palmar STILL uses flawed logic against me. palmar: who is more mafia to you, drazerk or redff? NOTE THAT NOWHERE IN THIS QUESTION do i say "who do you want dead TODAY" since i know that answer already. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22632 Posts
Jackal, we need you on this case too, because once I've gone to sleep, the idiots will have 4-5 hours to unvote him. | ||
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kingjames01
Canada1603 Posts
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annul
United States2841 Posts
palmar is intransigent. his ego is so astronomically large that my pressure on day 1 for him being totally horrible at this game leads him to blindly, persistently, and without merit or logic, tunnel the fuck out of me and manage to get sheeps galore onto it. his argument, literally his argument right now, is "we do not have time to vote someone else, therefore kill annul." yes you do lol. there are 8 people not on me right now. with these people revoting AND palmar revoting, that is majority on somewhere else. but palmar's head is so massive he won't even consider this. stop sheeping him. i have shown consistently that i have logic on my side and he does not. he has lied all game and tunneled me all game. what contributions has he made other than fucking vader up and then doing similar shit to me by way of a persistent aggression without merit? | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On December 12 2011 07:16 Palmar wrote: Thanks Zephirdd. Jackal, we need you on this case too, because once I've gone to sleep, the idiots will have 4-5 hours to unvote him. Answer me this Palmar - If Annul is scum why didn't he just blow your head off with 1 minute left? You're dead, it forces a no-lynch. That's my hang up right now. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22632 Posts
On December 12 2011 07:22 Jackal58 wrote: Answer me this Palmar - If Annul is scum why didn't he just blow your head off with 1 minute left? You're dead, it forces a no-lynch. That's my hang up right now. If Annul was town, why didn't he just shoot me? His entire effort of scumhunting before this day was to call me scum based on me trolling on day one. I expected him to do exactly what you said, however, you're basically saying he's not scum because he hasn't played optimally for scum, but has he played optimally for town? Far away from it. I think he pulled a gambit, thinking that he could trick town into believing his shit, and it paid off. | ||
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annul
United States2841 Posts
what about you lol your latest point is "i didnt shoot you, therefore im red?" do you have no counter to the four scenarios i posted about before and my analysis of the EV for each? | ||
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TruthBringer
United States578 Posts
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
Answer that and we will see about annul. | ||
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annul
United States2841 Posts
so i revoted him for now. | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On December 12 2011 07:16 annul wrote: also palmar keeps saying "LOL THE EUROPEANS ARE GONNA LEAVE SOON" That is probably because all the Europeans are gonna leave soon I chant it every game and no one pays any notice and we get last minute scum switches | ||
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annul
United States2841 Posts
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On December 12 2011 07:41 annul wrote: sure, but you are all here NOW, which is my point I count three. Palmar has a point we either choose You or RedFF now. In a hour it will be too late who ever has the majority we lynch. | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On December 11 2011 23:09 Drazerk wrote: If you think Red is lying he is our next best target, you seem to be ignoring everyone who knows my meta and knows what I am capable of as town in order to try and lynch me. You don't want to lynch a town? Well you seem to be doing what you can in order to do so. I'm going to judge this based on an IRC game I had with draz where he was town and lied claiming cop, when I was cop. I've seen this play from him before and it's the only thing saving him from my vote right now. I'm placing my vote, once again, on redFF. I don't trust him, and his claim that he was roleblocked doesn't help at all. ##vote redFF | ||
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annul
United States2841 Posts
you would agree to lynching me, who you think is town, just "to lynch somebody?" interesting | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On December 12 2011 07:26 Palmar wrote: If Annul was town, why didn't he just shoot me? His entire effort of scumhunting before this day was to call me scum based on me trolling on day one. I expected him to do exactly what you said, however, you're basically saying he's not scum because he hasn't played optimally for scum, but has he played optimally for town? Far away from it. I think he pulled a gambit, thinking that he could trick town into believing his shit, and it paid off. To be fair I resisted calling you scum for the same reasons he called you scum. I was far from convinced you were town. That being said if I had a day vig shot I still wouldn't have shot you. I would have blown redFF's face off and let shit happen. But this is all pointless speculation. Nobody ever gives me a gun. I'm gonna go through it all again. I've apparently got a hammer but I'm not convinced I'm going to hit the right fucking nail. Annul why didn't you just pull the fucking trigger? | ||
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annul
United States2841 Posts
On December 12 2011 03:22 annul wrote: in case my brief explanation was too succinct for you all: there are four choices: choose shot/pass shot; hit red/hit town choose shot, hit red: town may still lynch me for what would be, in my mind, a great day 2 bus... something i have done the last like 4 games as red. a palmar/annul bus plan starting day 1 to coalesce day 2 would be something i am sure one of us would consider and probably execute to perfection. choose shot, hit town: i lose my shot, i die day 2 outright. pass shot, hit red: i did my job as a day vig in killing a red AND it looks a lot more good for me since any bus chance would have to involve three mafia, so it is much less likely i am pulling that one off pass shot, hit town: i took the player no one thought was mafia to control my power, where if i were red i would be putting my own teammates in great danger than controlling the shot myself, thus helping to disprove any notions of redness anyway. sucks we hit town but if the MOST THOUGHT TOWNIE in the game was not able to pick correctly, then why is this my fault? so you may ask "why did i not pick option 1 and just 1 for 1 trade?" that was the rest of my explanation where i said i had more to do for the town in this game. day vig is not my only power, after all. there is still some equity left in my role that i want to extract for +EV. so in my mind the MOST "profitable" line was letting toad pick, since he had just as much chance as i did to pick a red (i had no idea who he was gonna shoot) AND it gave me the greater chance of surviving the lynch. BOTH of the "choose shot" lines ended in either a guaranteed annul lynch or a more-than-likely annul lynch. so i came up with something else. so do you fault a player for trying to survive? it is against the rules not to do so. | ||
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annul
United States2841 Posts
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
These last hours are always a pain. Anyone who do not believes that lynching annul is a good idea should switch to lynching redFF; consolidate the damn votes. | ||
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