• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:09
CEST 16:09
KST 23:09
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro4 Preview: On Course10Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview7[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors8Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun13[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16
Community News
Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !8Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple0RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event12Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results12026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers25
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results
Tourneys
Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) 2026 GSL Season 2 Qualifiers Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) WardiTV Mondays
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 525 Wheel of Misfortune The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 524 Death and Taxes Mutation # 523 Firewall
Brood War
General
ASL Tickets to Live Event Finals? [ASL21] Ro4 Preview: On Course Quality of life changes in BW that you will like ? Why there arent any 256x256 pro maps? RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site
Tourneys
[ASL21] Semifinals A [BSL22] RO16 Group Stage - 02 - 10 May [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro8 Day 3
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates Muta micro map competition What's the deal with APM & what's its true value
Other Games
General Games
Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Daigo vs Menard Best of 10
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread The Letting Off Steam Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How EEG Data Can Predict Gam…
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1790 users

TL Mafia XLVIII - Page 115

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 113 114 115 116 117 176 Next
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
December 11 2011 22:14 GMT
#2281
On December 12 2011 07:12 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 07:07 Zephirdd wrote:
*sigh* at this rate we'll end up with a no-lynch.

Just freaking kill xsksc already. annul and Drazerk are not the best lynches, they are far from it IMO. Too much uncertainty in it. redFF also feels too weird for me.

seriously, xsksc is the only choice here that is safe. Corrupt was scummy, xsksc is scum. Just do it already. Palmar, I really doubt you are lynching annul today unless scum decides to jump into it with full strength; if you are really that mad over him at least wait a day or so; We NEED this red lynch.

If Annul is town I'd say scum is already on him "full strength"


TBH a good scum team wouldn't jump with EVERY SINGLE PLAYER on the same player for a lynch. There are 8 players voting for annul right now, and I really doubt 6 of these are scum; that would make the only town voting on him me and Palmar(from my POV).
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 11 2011 22:16 GMT
#2282
also palmar keeps saying "LOL THE EUROPEANS ARE GONNA LEAVE SOON"

but theyre still here. and palmar STILL uses flawed logic against me.

palmar: who is more mafia to you, drazerk or redff? NOTE THAT NOWHERE IN THIS QUESTION do i say "who do you want dead TODAY" since i know that answer already.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 11 2011 22:16 GMT
#2283
Thanks Zephirdd.

Jackal, we need you on this case too, because once I've gone to sleep, the idiots will have 4-5 hours to unvote him.
Computer says mafia
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
December 11 2011 22:19 GMT
#2284
k, I'm back now. Expect my post shortly once I have had time to fix it up and make some more remarks.
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 11 2011 22:20 GMT
#2285
holy fuck lol

palmar is intransigent. his ego is so astronomically large that my pressure on day 1 for him being totally horrible at this game leads him to blindly, persistently, and without merit or logic, tunnel the fuck out of me and manage to get sheeps galore onto it.

his argument, literally his argument right now, is "we do not have time to vote someone else, therefore kill annul."

yes you do lol. there are 8 people not on me right now. with these people revoting AND palmar revoting, that is majority on somewhere else. but palmar's head is so massive he won't even consider this.

stop sheeping him. i have shown consistently that i have logic on my side and he does not. he has lied all game and tunneled me all game. what contributions has he made other than fucking vader up and then doing similar shit to me by way of a persistent aggression without merit?
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
December 11 2011 22:22 GMT
#2286
On December 12 2011 07:16 Palmar wrote:
Thanks Zephirdd.

Jackal, we need you on this case too, because once I've gone to sleep, the idiots will have 4-5 hours to unvote him.

Answer me this Palmar - If Annul is scum why didn't he just blow your head off with 1 minute left? You're dead, it forces a no-lynch. That's my hang up right now.
Life can only kill you once.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 11 2011 22:26 GMT
#2287
On December 12 2011 07:22 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 07:16 Palmar wrote:
Thanks Zephirdd.

Jackal, we need you on this case too, because once I've gone to sleep, the idiots will have 4-5 hours to unvote him.

Answer me this Palmar - If Annul is scum why didn't he just blow your head off with 1 minute left? You're dead, it forces a no-lynch. That's my hang up right now.


If Annul was town, why didn't he just shoot me? His entire effort of scumhunting before this day was to call me scum based on me trolling on day one.

I expected him to do exactly what you said, however, you're basically saying he's not scum because he hasn't played optimally for scum, but has he played optimally for town? Far away from it.

I think he pulled a gambit, thinking that he could trick town into believing his shit, and it paid off.
Computer says mafia
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 11 2011 22:28 GMT
#2288
lol palmar saying i am playing suboptimally for town

what about you lol

your latest point is "i didnt shoot you, therefore im red?" do you have no counter to the four scenarios i posted about before and my analysis of the EV for each?
TruthBringer
Profile Joined November 2003
United States578 Posts
December 11 2011 22:33 GMT
#2289
Please, speak up, anyone who thinks redFF is town.
Carbon FC
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
December 11 2011 22:34 GMT
#2290
Palmar, what do you think of toad.

Answer that and we will see about annul.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 11 2011 22:36 GMT
#2291
i am fine with redff. i would rather it be drazerk but i suspect it will come down to "annul or X" and if X is split between two people, i definitely die.

so i revoted him for now.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
December 11 2011 22:40 GMT
#2292
On December 12 2011 07:16 annul wrote:
also palmar keeps saying "LOL THE EUROPEANS ARE GONNA LEAVE SOON"


That is probably because all the Europeans are gonna leave soon I chant it every game and no one pays any notice and we get last minute scum switches
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 11 2011 22:41 GMT
#2293
sure, but you are all here NOW, which is my point
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
December 11 2011 22:46 GMT
#2294
On December 12 2011 07:41 annul wrote:
sure, but you are all here NOW, which is my point


I count three. Palmar has a point we either choose You or RedFF now. In a hour it will be too late who ever has the majority we lynch.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
December 11 2011 22:52 GMT
#2295
On December 11 2011 23:09 Drazerk wrote:
If you think Red is lying he is our next best target, you seem to be ignoring everyone who knows my meta and knows what I am capable of as town in order to try and lynch me. You don't want to lynch a town? Well you seem to be doing what you can in order to do so.


I'm going to judge this based on an IRC game I had with draz where he was town and lied claiming cop, when I was cop. I've seen this play from him before and it's the only thing saving him from my vote right now. I'm placing my vote, once again, on redFF. I don't trust him, and his claim that he was roleblocked doesn't help at all.

##vote redFF
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 11 2011 22:53 GMT
#2296
perhaps i should get back onto you with that logic

you would agree to lynching me, who you think is town, just "to lynch somebody?" interesting
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
December 11 2011 22:55 GMT
#2297
On December 12 2011 07:26 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 07:22 Jackal58 wrote:
On December 12 2011 07:16 Palmar wrote:
Thanks Zephirdd.

Jackal, we need you on this case too, because once I've gone to sleep, the idiots will have 4-5 hours to unvote him.

Answer me this Palmar - If Annul is scum why didn't he just blow your head off with 1 minute left? You're dead, it forces a no-lynch. That's my hang up right now.


If Annul was town, why didn't he just shoot me? His entire effort of scumhunting before this day was to call me scum based on me trolling on day one.

I expected him to do exactly what you said, however, you're basically saying he's not scum because he hasn't played optimally for scum, but has he played optimally for town? Far away from it.

I think he pulled a gambit, thinking that he could trick town into believing his shit, and it paid off.

To be fair I resisted calling you scum for the same reasons he called you scum. I was far from convinced you were town. That being said if I had a day vig shot I still wouldn't have shot you. I would have blown redFF's face off and let shit happen. But this is all pointless speculation. Nobody ever gives me a gun.
I'm gonna go through it all again. I've apparently got a hammer but I'm not convinced I'm going to hit the right fucking nail.
Annul why didn't you just pull the fucking trigger?
Life can only kill you once.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 11 2011 22:57 GMT
#2298
On December 12 2011 03:22 annul wrote:
in case my brief explanation was too succinct for you all:

there are four choices: choose shot/pass shot; hit red/hit town

choose shot, hit red: town may still lynch me for what would be, in my mind, a great day 2 bus... something i have done the last like 4 games as red. a palmar/annul bus plan starting day 1 to coalesce day 2 would be something i am sure one of us would consider and probably execute to perfection.

choose shot, hit town: i lose my shot, i die day 2 outright.

pass shot, hit red: i did my job as a day vig in killing a red AND it looks a lot more good for me since any bus chance would have to involve three mafia, so it is much less likely i am pulling that one off

pass shot, hit town: i took the player no one thought was mafia to control my power, where if i were red i would be putting my own teammates in great danger than controlling the shot myself, thus helping to disprove any notions of redness anyway. sucks we hit town but if the MOST THOUGHT TOWNIE in the game was not able to pick correctly, then why is this my fault?

so you may ask "why did i not pick option 1 and just 1 for 1 trade?" that was the rest of my explanation where i said i had more to do for the town in this game. day vig is not my only power, after all. there is still some equity left in my role that i want to extract for +EV. so in my mind the MOST "profitable" line was letting toad pick, since he had just as much chance as i did to pick a red (i had no idea who he was gonna shoot) AND it gave me the greater chance of surviving the lynch. BOTH of the "choose shot" lines ended in either a guaranteed annul lynch or a more-than-likely annul lynch. so i came up with something else.

so do you fault a player for trying to survive? it is against the rules not to do so.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 11 2011 22:58 GMT
#2299
the above, mind you, goes unanswered by palmar and his sheep
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
December 11 2011 23:02 GMT
#2300
I wonder if we will get enough people to switch to redFF. I'm still uneasy on lynching him, but not less than I am on lynching annul.

These last hours are always a pain. Anyone who do not believes that lynching annul is a good idea should switch to lynching redFF; consolidate the damn votes.
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
Prev 1 113 114 115 116 117 176 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Wardi Open
12:00
#86
WardiTV979
Rex130
Liquipedia
GSL
08:00
2026 Season 2: Qualifiers
SHIN vs CreatorLIVE!
Zoun vs Cure
IntoTheiNu 1094
CranKy Ducklings SOOP101
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
OGKoka 287
Rex 130
MaxPax 110
ProTech93
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 8457
Bisu 2490
Sea 1956
Jaedong 1823
Leta 1164
Horang2 976
EffOrt 923
Mini 695
ZerO 405
Hyuk 405
[ Show more ]
actioN 401
BeSt 298
Larva 285
ggaemo 285
Snow 268
Soulkey 202
firebathero 176
Rush 170
Mind 101
HiyA 80
Hyun 78
Sharp 73
Sea.KH 64
Mong 62
Pusan 56
Barracks 47
soO 44
Aegong 41
Killer 40
sorry 36
[sc1f]eonzerg 32
Movie 24
IntoTheRainbow 18
Hm[arnc] 17
SilentControl 9
Bale 7
Icarus 5
Terrorterran 5
Rock 3
Dota 2
Gorgc3797
XcaliburYe241
syndereN228
NeuroSwarm56
Counter-Strike
fl0m1525
byalli420
Heroes of the Storm
MindelVK4
Other Games
B2W.Neo895
hiko871
Lowko396
Happy249
Hui .209
crisheroes160
monkeys_forever124
ArmadaUGS115
elazer101
Livibee49
ZerO(Twitch)13
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL30869
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 10
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 34
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis4957
• TFBlade1232
Other Games
• WagamamaTV445
Upcoming Events
Monday Night Weeklies
1h 51m
OSC
9h 51m
CranKy Ducklings
19h 51m
Afreeca Starleague
19h 51m
Light vs Flash
PiGosaur Cup
1d 9h
Replay Cast
1d 18h
Replay Cast
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
OSC
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
3 days
OSC
3 days
Korean StarCraft League
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
BSL
5 days
GSL
5 days
Cure vs TBD
TBD vs Maru
BSL
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
KK 2v2 League Season 1
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
SCTL 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W7
YSL S3
Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026: Closed Qualifier
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.