EPTTL Mafia XLVIII - Page 113
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On December 11 2011 23:08 xsksc wrote: Toad, you didn't quote Palmar's more recent case. For reference: Annul is scum. Syllo shot Annul n1, mafia medic saved him. Lynch Annul please xoxo so you're saying I'm a mafia medic? Or are you just ignoring the fact that I did safe annul? | ||
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xsksc
United Kingdom1044 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On December 11 2011 23:09 Drazerk wrote: If you think Red is lying he is our next best target, you seem to be ignoring everyone who knows my meta and knows what I am capable of as town in order to try and lynch me. You don't want to lynch a town? Well you seem to be doing what you can in order to do so. yes he is together with sandroba. But we needed a better target than annul to get people off annul and on redFF, yourself or sandroba and redFF's case is just the same thing as annul's case, therefore it's not better unless you think both Palmar and I am wrong. | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On December 11 2011 23:15 xsksc wrote: Yes, you're a scum medic. Or you're our amazing town medic who managed to miraculously save scum from a vig shot Well it's happened in the past * Whistles* | ||
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xsksc
United Kingdom1044 Posts
On December 11 2011 23:15 xsksc wrote: Yes, you're a scum medic. Or you're our amazing town medic who managed to miraculously save scum from a vig shot Either way, Annul's the best lynch today. | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On December 11 2011 23:15 Toadesstern wrote: yes he is together with sandroba. But we needed a better target than annul to get people off annul and on redFF, yourself or sandroba and redFF's case is just the same thing as annul's case, therefore it's not better unless you think both Palmar and I am wrong. I know your both wrong. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
I'm reading what I missed and I'll be back with thoughts. | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On December 12 2011 01:09 VisceraEyes wrote: Hey everyone, sorry about my afkness, I've had a lot of family holiday stuff this weekend XD I'm reading what I missed and I'll be back with thoughts. Everyone's waiting | ||
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annul
United States2841 Posts
On December 11 2011 19:10 bumatlarge wrote: I think you're too smart to jump on drazerk for being stupid. lol what a horrible rationale I don't think drazerk is red at least this is something. so you agree with the meme that he is just a dumb player and when he does obviously red things, just chalk it up to him being dumb? interesting. | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On December 12 2011 03:05 annul wrote: lol what a horrible rationale at least this is something. so you agree with the meme that he is just a dumb player and when he does obviously red things, just chalk it up to him being dumb? interesting. Stop pushing me it's not going to work, people who have actually played a proper game with me understand this is what I do ( lol at calling it a meme ) We also shouldn't be lynching annul, I am willing to believe his claim now that toad has stepped forward ( If toad is scum or not is a matter we will get to later personally I lean toward scum ) Our best target is RedFF he has zero excuse to be on my bandwagon he has played in so many games with me and knows my meta far to well to jump on the easiest bandwagon in the universe on top of his low content posts and flipping worse than me. | ||
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annul
United States2841 Posts
On December 09 2011 20:09 Palmar wrote: Annul gave his shot to a townie who had been very, very open about his read on Erandorr as scum. Annul probably counted on Toad being terrible enough to only aim the gun at Errandor, but because prplhz was town too, Annul ran with it. Does anyone with half a brain actually think that town annul would not pick his target himself? Notice he did not even consider prplhz's alignment. Annul hasn't accused prplhz all game, he was completely fine with killing prplhz at random. At this point, I asked annul why he didn't just shoot me? After all, he has been pushing for my death since day 1, if we can call his half-assed attempts pushing. He obviously doesn't give a shit who dies as long as it's not him. And do you know what Annul replies with? What the fuck????????? The only way this sentence makes sense is if annul already knows I'll flip town. According to him I must be scum. But how does shooting scum not say anything about him? In non-crazy-world shooting scum is one of the best ways of clearing your name. In non-crazy-world you don't randomly shoot townies to save your own hide. in case my brief explanation was too succinct for you all: there are four choices: choose shot/pass shot; hit red/hit town choose shot, hit red: town may still lynch me for what would be, in my mind, a great day 2 bus... something i have done the last like 4 games as red. a palmar/annul bus plan starting day 1 to coalesce day 2 would be something i am sure one of us would consider and probably execute to perfection. choose shot, hit town: i lose my shot, i die day 2 outright. pass shot, hit red: i did my job as a day vig in killing a red AND it looks a lot more good for me since any bus chance would have to involve three mafia, so it is much less likely i am pulling that one off pass shot, hit town: i took the player no one thought was mafia to control my power, where if i were red i would be putting my own teammates in great danger than controlling the shot myself, thus helping to disprove any notions of redness anyway. sucks we hit town but if the MOST THOUGHT TOWNIE in the game was not able to pick correctly, then why is this my fault? so you may ask "why did i not pick option 1 and just 1 for 1 trade?" that was the rest of my explanation where i said i had more to do for the town in this game. day vig is not my only power, after all. there is still some equity left in my role that i want to extract for +EV. so in my mind the MOST "profitable" line was letting toad pick, since he had just as much chance as i did to pick a red (i had no idea who he was gonna shoot) AND it gave me the greater chance of surviving the lynch. BOTH of the "choose shot" lines ended in either a guaranteed annul lynch or a more-than-likely annul lynch. so i came up with something else. so do you fault a player for trying to survive? it is against the rules not to do so. | ||
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
##vote redff | ||
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
- Annul is mafia, Drazerk is town - Annul is town, Drazerk is mafia - Annul and Drazerk are town, redFF is mafia Annul became much more useful today, which makes me think that he is less red and more town. I don't want to see a blue lynched either. It also doesn't help that xsksc - former Corrupt - is pushing for his lynch; I'm fairly sure Corrupt was mafia and xsksc looks grim too. Drazerk fits his own meta; in fact the only reason he wasn't lynched on Steamship Liquidia was that he was mason confirmed by hyshes. That makes me believe he is less of a red than people think. That leaves me to one last player. redFF; however my lack of meta knowledge makes me uneasy to judge him. Therefore I want you guys to pull your eyes to another lynch. xsksc - replaced Corrupt Corrupt's filter xsksc filter Corrupt begins with generic post, fails to give a decent answer and comes back much later with a decent - possibly forged - post. There is almost zero reference for us to go after a Palmar attack and a redFF attack on Corrupt's filter; he then drinks too much and is replaced by xsksc due to alcoholic coma(jk, but he did say he had one hell of a hangover  )xsksc then comes, reads the whole thread, and the only thing he does is to push the easiest lynch; not giving any thoughts on anything else. We can't afford to be wrong today. It makes sense for me that xsksc is the safest and most obvious lynch. ##vote xsksc | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
With 19 alive, it takes 10 to lynch. | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On December 12 2011 04:39 Mattchew wrote: This game is a clusterfuck ... town shouldn't lie so this is dumb. we need to get rid of annul and draz (and of course my favorite redFF). Can we please come to a decision on who to lynch tonight Town lie all the time its a valid tactic to mess with WiFoM / scum shots. Lynch RedFF annul / myself are horrible targets and I don't think we will be able to lynch xsksc personally I have a null read on him which is probably bad at this stage of the game | ||
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
Zeph I dont think that case will have time to get enough exposure/discussion to come about. I think redff is a way better lynch. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
I can't make up my mind where redFF is concerned. He's not playing overtly scummy, but his contributions have been pretty lax imo (although being the pot, I really don't have much room to talk.) Based solely on his tone and what little contribution I've seen, I think he's also probably town. I looked over Corrupt too because of Zeph's case. While I disagree that he hasn't had anything to add (some of his contributions were at least semi-relevant), I agree with him completely about xsksc's first action in the game. There should have been more to consider before jumping on the easiest bandwagon - we're well beyond just lynching for information...there's information in the thread already. I think he was probably compelled to blend in, just jumping on the easy lynch. ##Vote: xsksc | ||
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Lanaia
Canada1142 Posts
On December 12 2011 04:39 Mattchew wrote: This game is a clusterfuck ... town shouldn't lie so this is dumb. we need to get rid of annul and draz (and of course my favorite redFF). Can we please come to a decision on who to lynch tonight So you think all three of those people are scum? Who are the other three, given you have an idea? Where has our friend Jackal gone? And Risen? And whoever the other person is who hasn't voted, kingjames, I think... On December 12 2011 04:50 vaderseven wrote: I agree that there was too much town lieing in this game so far. Its made the mafia's job WAY too easy. It's actually almost extremely annoying. To the rest of town who hasn't yet lied, please don't unless you have to. My scumreads at this moment in time are: annul, mattchew, eran/bum, corrupt/whoeverhisnameis, and I'm not sure who the last two could be. Corrupt/xcsxs or whatever is mostly because of the case from Zeph, but I had an idea of it beforehand. How many votes do we need to lynch a person right now? Is it 10? | ||
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