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Velinath
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States694 Posts
December 09 2011 01:49 GMT
#906
On December 09 2011 10:32 Blazinghand wrote:
Hey JB i was wondering if you could clarify your position on velinath plz. I have avoided noticing this night post somehow

+ Show Spoiler +

Hahaha you just made my day.
Velinath
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States694 Posts
December 09 2011 04:31 GMT
#911
I've already stated my case against BKEXE. I feel that Adam's contribution after that case was posted really helps solidify things, especially as he and JB were sticking up for each other for quite some time until JB really started getting pressured.

My third read is still Hassybaby/Bluelightz.
Velinath
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States694 Posts
December 09 2011 15:38 GMT
#915
Here is my case on BKEXE. Adam4167 has a supplementary post shortly afterwards.
Velinath
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States694 Posts
December 10 2011 01:25 GMT
#938
Whoo, BH survived. Anyway, here's a little bit of thought.

BKEXE's case on ey215 is hella contrived. Two other people have already pointed this out, but he's cherry picking his quotes and putting them out of order to try and construct points - something that he was accusing me of doing before. Given my case earlier combined with the more recent stuff posted since then:
##Vote: BroodKingEXE

I had a chance to do some filtering over the night. I've got a very strong town read on ey215 after his more recent posts especially, but I'm still not sure what to make of xkskreplacementfest. Once layabout starts posting a bit more, I'll be interested to see how that shapes up.

I'm doing a quiz for one of my classses but I'll be posting some analysis on Bluelightz's posts after he took over from Hassybaby soon.
Velinath
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States694 Posts
December 10 2011 04:07 GMT
#954
Man, format your posts...

ey215's been posting pro-town. I'm still waiting on you to come up with a defense to my case, BKEXE. I'm still waiting for a defense to Adam's note of you defending JB forever. Let's go. Defend yourself or make a more plausible case.
Velinath
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States694 Posts
December 10 2011 15:09 GMT
#967
On December 10 2011 17:20 xtfftc wrote:
Morning everyone. I plan to post a lot over the weekend because I have very limited time during workdays. I have put enough time into EY, so I'll be leaving him alone for now unless I find something very convincing. Everything points to BKE being our best lynch today, so I won't dwell too much on why he is mafia. I will, however, analyse his relationships with the other players, because this would help us for next week. Apart from that, I'm not sure what to focus on. I really hope that layabout steps it up because xsk+Starshard have been having a very easy time.

I think we need to come up with some sort of a plan. Just like yesterday with Jay, I don't think that focusing too much on BKE will do us a lot of good. If he's town, he has to do his best to catch mafia, but if he's town, he'll be happy to waste our time like Jay did (BKE, there's two mafia players alive, so you need two cases, not one.). We need to discuss at least two more things:
- do we still want to lynch a lurker if there's no good case (lynching a lurker later in the game is much better than earlier as we have more town reads)?
- if we have a DT, should he investigate the lurkerish players?

These are not for today but for the next few days. If you think there's anything else important to discuss for the late game, don't hesitate to bring it up.

In response to your questions, I feel that at this point it does indeed become beneficial to lynch lurkers. Assuming BKEXE flips scum (which, at this point, is nearly certain to me), we have 1 scum left - which means we can afford to use a lynch or two on people who haven't been participating. Right now that's xkstarshayabout and Hassybluelightz, both of which I'm not totally sure about. At least Bluelightz has been posting a bit, but again, expect some analysis from me later today on that.

That said, I feel like our DT should be focusing more on active players that seem suspicious to them, rather than lurkers. If we're going to be looking at lynching lurkers, then we'll get the last scum if they're lurking anyway. If there's any active poster that seems like they're suspicious, then that's a better investigation target.
Velinath
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States694 Posts
December 10 2011 17:10 GMT
#972
On December 11 2011 01:45 BroodKingEXE wrote:
BH,

Are you saying that you will ignore EY's lies based on my illegible posts?
I have yet to see anyone comment about EY bandwagoning on two of the votes. While I was wrong about Adam others were wrong about Bbyte too.

It seems like everyone says I have been defending Jay the whole game from this post:

Here

Okay, I gave my read on him and defended him...once. On the vote against him I looked at his posts and gave info, others agreed with the vote (like EY) and gave no information whatsoever.

You intentionally misrepresented ey in your case by taking his posts out of order like you did. Explain why you did this.
Velinath
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States694 Posts
December 11 2011 16:59 GMT
#1017
Ugh. What a mess. Been a liiittle bit busy with some relatives coming into town.

Here are my thoughts on Bluelightz - and you can filter him to see this - but literally every single one of his posts has been bandwagoning hard since he replaced in.
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 08 2011 18:57 Bluelightz wrote:
Above Post Should Not Be Read because it is so messy xD

Hmm My scumreads right now

BroodKingEXE Leaning Scum - He has been filling the thread with some post's trying to "distance" him and jay

as you can see in Adam's and BH's observation.

Also, if JB flips scum we wil have a strong case on BKEXE

Next,

ey215 is leaning scum, when he says

Show nested quote +
I Am Town


but then, I quote Grackaroni

Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 03:43 Grackaroni wrote:

NOBODY IS A CONFIRMED TOWNIE



BH, has provided a good enough discussion so,

##Vote: Jaybrundage

All of this had already been discussed to death. Bluelightz hopped on the bandwagon late, and then...provided...something? about ey215. Everyone's going to represent themselves as town. -_-
(side note: I still think that ey215 is town-aligned.)

Next 3 posts are parroting others' reasoning on BKEXE without adding anything new.

Both of his votes have been simply bandwagoning with no original reasoning - he hasn't added anything of substance to the discussion.

Bluelightz - build a case on someone. Please. We're still looking for a third scum and right now you're top on my list of suspects.


(You can check EB's case on Hassybaby for the first half of the discussion).
Velinath
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States694 Posts
December 12 2011 16:14 GMT
#1060
Quiet night so far.

What do you guys think about what layabout's put together on xtfftc so far, and xtfftc's reaction to that?
Velinath
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States694 Posts
December 12 2011 17:47 GMT
#1063
On December 13 2011 02:30 layabout wrote:
@ the thread - please be active and contribute

i think at this stage it is reasonable to state that blues (cop and tracker) may have some information and that there is a considerable chance that you might get shot tonight (2blues out of 6 town) i hope that you realise that if you die sitting on information then town does not benefit from it.
i think that it is worth thinking about claiming immediately before the nightpost (please use common sense)


How do you know blues are cop and tracker this game?
Velinath
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States694 Posts
December 12 2011 17:52 GMT
#1065
On December 13 2011 02:49 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 02:47 Velinath wrote:
On December 13 2011 02:30 layabout wrote:
@ the thread - please be active and contribute

i think at this stage it is reasonable to state that blues (cop and tracker) may have some information and that there is a considerable chance that you might get shot tonight (2blues out of 6 town) i hope that you realise that if you die sitting on information then town does not benefit from it.
i think that it is worth thinking about claiming immediately before the nightpost (please use common sense)


How do you know blues are cop and tracker this game?

I don't really agree with them claiming, if they had information its probably been bread crumbed.
Cop/tracker are the only blues who could have information to claim. (no doc saves)
It would be really bad if a doctor claimed.

kk, it just seemed awkwardly worded
Velinath
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States694 Posts
December 13 2011 05:47 GMT
#1080
On December 13 2011 14:38 xtfftc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 09:12 layabout wrote:
i don't mean you im just frustrated that since joining the game i have made a very large proportion of the posts the posts i have made have been largely unadressed, that after voting for BK people went quiet and that people really aren't offering opinions of the points raised or providing analysis or discussion. i joined a game 3 days ago and there have been 5 pages of posts. if town isn't active it is difficult to be productive and we need to be more focused.

And yet you still want to lynch me for trying to get the town to discuss things... Go figure.

I want to lynch you because of what layabout's actually brought up and you haven't addressed. Weak justifications - those with WIFOM logic - responding to some legitimate concerns? Your voting pattern has yet to be adequately explained to me, and layabout's case on you does indeed concern me - to the point of me being extremely suspicious. I think you're scum at this point.
Velinath
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States694 Posts
December 13 2011 05:49 GMT
#1081
Oh, and while I'm here -
##Vote: xtfftc
Velinath
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States694 Posts
December 13 2011 05:51 GMT
#1082
ebwop: Satisfactory explanation for why you wanted to lynch ey215 and didn't. Especially when I have a strong town read on him. Go.
Velinath
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States694 Posts
December 13 2011 06:31 GMT
#1084
Sorry, I forgot to clarify. I was talking about your day 1 vote.

You bring up WIFOM in your explanation of Grack's posts, but you also use it in your defense. (Let's keep in mind that Grack flipped town, and if you know enough to pick WIFOM on him you should know not to use it). You actually bring up WIFOM multiple times and should know better than to use it: "Let's also consider me being mafia for the sake of discussing my actions".

You try to invoke Lynch All Liars when that's not what it's used for (see Tunkeg's response to me Day 2. I derped but it's a reasonable point nonetheless).

What do I think of your posts on layabout? Either it's an elegant bus (which I doubt, with only 2 scum left) or he's got a good read on you and you're trying to get out of it.
Velinath
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States694 Posts
December 13 2011 06:32 GMT
#1085
ebwop damn it i meant xkskc and i can't read.
Velinath
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States694 Posts
December 13 2011 06:35 GMT
#1086
Continued: Your voting for ey215 over the overwhelming day 2 lynch concerns me as well. You say that you want to ensure nothing happens to the bandwagon in Day 1 (when we overwhelmingly voted BByte), but you're okay with voting ey215 on Day 2 (when we also overwhelmingly voted JB). Inconsistent? Absolutely. We were clear in our decision both days, yet one day you're okay with not voting the clear scum in favour of someone that some people even have a town read on, and you're comfortable voting the townie on Day 1. Weird.
Velinath
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States694 Posts
December 13 2011 06:52 GMT
#1087
Another continued: You bring up this BKEXE analysis a) like it's something that we're going to be concerned about when the wagon's already rolling unstoppably; and b) you never actually produced it. -_-
Velinath
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States694 Posts
December 13 2011 13:56 GMT
#1091
On December 13 2011 16:49 xtfftc wrote:
Make up your mind already? You are either a lazy townie who hasn't put in the time to even read the thread - or a mafia who decided to go all-in after BH went after him.

I am off to work, will post more when I'm back home in the afternoon.

I'm a lazy townie because I posted teh wrong name once, then corrected myself after I realized I mixed up your votes.

Yep, that accusation doesn't reek of scum or anything. My vote stands.
Velinath
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States694 Posts
December 13 2011 14:42 GMT
#1092
Also you just did the exact same thing to me that I just did "BH went after you! Oh wait..." Considering I'm one of the more vocal people in this thread I don't think you have any idea where you're coming from with any of this "lazy" stuff.

Have you read the thread? Or paying too much attention to the scum QT?
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