EPTI would support a bumatlarge lynch as well. Coagulation and deconduo are very likely to be scum for the same reasons.
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
I would support a bumatlarge lynch as well. Coagulation and deconduo are very likely to be scum for the same reasons. | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On November 30 2011 04:59 sandroba wrote: Don't bother with analysis risen, after what you posted it won't do us any good even if you are town =/ Why don't you defend yourself or explain why my analysis is bad instead of just trying to discredit me with an offhand remark. That is scum behavior. | ||
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xtfftc
United Kingdom2343 Posts
Anyway, I did not imply that they were all anti-town but that he didn't bother saying a word about the massive case on him. Just completely ignored it when he saw that it didn't get picked up. And also, how is saying something like "this ace-modkilled screwed the whole game." or discussing modkills in the thread pro-town? Don't we have enough posts that are not related to any analysis and are just mindless chatting? | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On November 30 2011 05:06 Risen wrote: Why don't you defend yourself or explain why my analysis is bad instead of just trying to discredit me with an offhand remark. That is scum behavior. stop derping. If you're town you're acting the fool right now and if you're scum you sure are making it easier to catch you. I have a town read on you, but you're currently ruining that. | ||
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sandroba
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
##vote BloodyC0bbler However I still stand behind my choice to lynch Risen and I don't believe Zek's claim which seems more like a desperation move ( however he will probably be the first choice lynch and I don't like wasting my vote ) As BC can only be lynched and Risen can be shot if the votes are tied between them I will give preference to BC and change my vote from Risen to who ever the first vote is at the time and let the vigilante's deal with him | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On November 30 2011 05:06 xtfftc wrote: Uh, I shouldn't have simply looked at the last post you quoted and assumed they're ordered chronologically. Anyway, I did not imply that they were all anti-town but that he didn't bother saying a word about the massive case on him. Just completely ignored it when he saw that it didn't get picked up. And also, how is saying something like "this ace-modkilled screwed the whole game." or discussing modkills in the thread pro-town? Don't we have enough posts that are not related to any analysis and are just mindless chatting? I asked if it was anti-town. No, discussing modkills doesn't get us anywhere, but an expression of frustration isn't anti-town. It's completely natural. Trying to base supersoft being scum on him discussing Ace's modkill is disingenuous and will ultimately be fruitless. | ||
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sandroba
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wherebugsgo
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Drazerk do you have any reads other than BC/Risen/zeks? I agree that Risen's and Zeks's recent behavior has been somewhat strange but they are both new players and are facing lynch. Players in that type of situation tend to act in unexpected ways. | ||
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xtfftc
United Kingdom2343 Posts
On November 30 2011 05:03 sandroba wrote: @xft based on night kills alone bum has a ultra high chance of being scum. Jackal and redFF(?) shot and bum still alive? He had like 0 chance of atracting medics due to activity. Coupled with the fact that he is lurking his ass off while town is self destructing, you see where I'm going. If anything that makes ss even more likely to be town. I don't have a read on Bum, I just like his case. But if we carry on this train of thought, Supersoft completely ignoring the rather serious case on him can be explained with both of them being mafia. | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On November 24 2011 17:44 Ciryandor wrote: Also @ prplhz: In my experience, you are bad at deflecting bad townie play vs scum play, I remember that from LotR mafia. However, those basic tips on newbie play will go quite a way to encourage player activity. However I won't vote for you because my experience tells me you don't have what it takes. Indicates to me that he knows how to play mafia, and he knows how to play town. Town play is posting a lot so people can get proper reads on you, Ciry is not. On November 26 2011 12:07 Ciryandor wrote: I just woke up; I live 1 hour behind KST so the US/EU people won't see me because I'm asleep. Okay, Palmar and sandroba are now scummy for pushing "easy" lynches of people with scummy meta? Really? What about those people who haven't contributed anything despite posting quite a bit and mucking up the game? All the argumentation just doesn't help. Supporting a sinani lynch. On November 26 2011 20:22 Ciryandor wrote: Not quite; read up a bit first as some people think giving him the mayor post could be disastrous. I would personally prefer if you wanted to take a look at BloodyC0bbler and Sandroba, who both have good cases for going for the mayor post. However you're quite free to just go for it if you think Palmar's activity is pro-town enough for your liking. Supporting two people I feel are mafia without any real logical explanation. On November 29 2011 10:07 Ciryandor wrote: Why would you celebrate getting through a day where only the mayor gets an auto-lynch, and not even being considered on the chopping block; and posting it when the night post is about to be put up? You're being obtuse and deflecting the attention on you by attacking those who try to make a case on you instead of posting a proper defense then discrediting the logic people are using. The fact that he doesn't even dignify it with the admission that his interpretation of the time cycle was WRONG doesn't help. Indeed, why would I celebrate making it through day 1 of my first TL Mafia game. Probably because it's my first TL Mafia game. He literally voted based on an apparent "scumslip" and NOTHING else. I ask for a better analysis and he immediately disappears. He hasn't posted since except to ask Ace wtf he was thinking. I think a town player would be more active, and have more analysis to his name. Maybe he'll come out tonight with something crazy and prove me wrong. Shouldn't be too hard, my case isn't very strong against him, and it boils down to he's lurking when he knows he should be posting, and he's bandwagoning on me when he knows it should take more than just an apparent "scumslip" to lynch someone. | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
On November 30 2011 04:53 sandroba wrote: I agree with bugs, ss is prob town. Ty for answering for me. <3 prpl you are scum because your day1 makes no sense in a townie perspective. Besides that, you realized previously that lynching palmar was a bad move, but now that votes are close you back pedal. No. Read what I write. I said that Palmar was a bad lynch as long as I wasn't sure that BloodyC0bbler was town and as long as I wasn't sure that Palmar was scum. Then I read through BloodyC0bbler's posts and I came to the conclusion that he is most likely town. Also, Palmar has been acting extremely weird since then and I think that he is scum, so I am voting him. Your logic is terrible. You didn't lynch wherebugsgo in Mini Mafia X because "he didn't attack your credibility" which was an insane idea you just couldn't let go of. You are making just as much sense right now as you were in Mini Mafia X and you are putting just as much effort into this game, and I have learned never to listen to you when that happens. I can't prove my innocence to you right now 'cause you are not making a case against me, and I doubt that you are letting go of your insane idea that my day1 was scum, even though you can't tell me why. Are you saying that BloodyC0bbler is scum? Are you saying that how Palmar has been playing, since the post where I told people not to get ahead of themselves and vote Palmar without considering our situation, has been very much like you know townie Palmar? Has it been townie at all? He is giving us no information, nothing but emotional speeches trying to make us feel guilty like wherebugsgo did to me in Mini Mafia X, and OMGUS against BloodyC0bbler as he did against Ace. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On November 30 2011 05:10 xtfftc wrote: I don't have a read on Bum, I just like his case. But if we carry on this train of thought, Supersoft completely ignoring the rather serious case on him can be explained with both of them being mafia. no, it can't. Name one logical reason why we should connect bum and supersoft based on the fact that supersoft is ignoring the case on himself. You don't ever connect alignments before someone flips. If you think two people are scum together you lynch the one who is more likely to be scum and then once he flips you reevaluate. If either of them is town your theory is flushed down the toilet. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On November 30 2011 05:12 prplhz wrote: No. Read what I write. I said that Palmar was a bad lynch as long as I wasn't sure that BloodyC0bbler was town and as long as I wasn't sure that Palmar was scum. Then I read through BloodyC0bbler's posts and I came to the conclusion that he is most likely town. Also, Palmar has been acting extremely weird since then and I think that he is scum, so I am voting him. Your logic is terrible. You didn't lynch wherebugsgo in Mini Mafia X because "he didn't attack your credibility" which was an insane idea you just couldn't let go of. You are making just as much sense right now as you were in Mini Mafia X and you are putting just as much effort into this game, and I have learned never to listen to you when that happens. I can't prove my innocence to you right now 'cause you are not making a case against me, and I doubt that you are letting go of your insane idea that my day1 was scum, even though you can't tell me why. Are you saying that BloodyC0bbler is scum? Are you saying that how Palmar has been playing, since the post where I told people not to get ahead of themselves and vote Palmar without considering our situation, has been very much like you know townie Palmar? Has it been townie at all? He is giving us no information, nothing but emotional speeches trying to make us feel guilty like wherebugsgo did to me in Mini Mafia X, and OMGUS against BloodyC0bbler as he did against Ace. you call sandro's logic terrible in this game based on something he said in a previous game... and yet your logic isn't much better, since your reasoning for voting palmar is that "he's acting weird." The rest of this post is fluff. gtfo. | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
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xtfftc
United Kingdom2343 Posts
On November 30 2011 05:09 wherebugsgo wrote: I asked if it was anti-town. No, discussing modkills doesn't get us anywhere, but an expression of frustration isn't anti-town. It's completely natural. Trying to base supersoft being scum on him discussing Ace's modkill is disingenuous and will ultimately be fruitless. .......... I did not base my vote on this. It was, however, an example of the things he is interested in posting about instead of doing what every townie (especially more experienced ones like him) should be trying to do: hunt for mafia. On November 30 2011 05:09 sandroba wrote: @xftc I won't bother to say a word about w/e risen posted about me. does that make me scum? You're comparing apples and oranges ^^ Bum is a good player who posted a serious analysis. Risen is herp-derping. Anyway, I really am done with Supersoft for now. I'm going to post on prplhz next. | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
On November 30 2011 04:59 sandroba wrote: Don't bother with analysis risen, after what you posted it won't do us any good even if you are town =/ Rofl, you need to shut up. You are too lazy to play this game and now you tell other people not to play this game. Risen is fighting back, I think he should be shot tonight and not lynched today, but let him prove his innocence and maybe he can convince vigs not to shoot him (though I really hope they will). | ||
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xtfftc
United Kingdom2343 Posts
On November 30 2011 05:13 wherebugsgo wrote: no, it can't. Name one logical reason why we should connect bum and supersoft based on the fact that supersoft is ignoring the case on himself. You don't ever connect alignments before someone flips. If you think two people are scum together you lynch the one who is more likely to be scum and then once he flips you reevaluate. If either of them is town your theory is flushed down the toilet. Look at Sandroba's post and you will realise what the point of mine was. | ||
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
On November 30 2011 03:48 layabout wrote: TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK THE EVIDENCE IS don't argue about answering the question.and don't say you have been clear because you have simply deflected from the issue i was raising. waffle:denotes language without meaning; blathering, babbling, droning since it wasn't relevant to the question then in the context of "why did i think we should lynch these players" i would class paragraph 1 as meaningless and therefore waffle you seem to be saying that we have to lynch on little evidence and flipping mafia allows you to analyse their past actions and produce more relevant analysis and. but everyone should know that anyway so why state it? It is my understanding that the evidence we use to support lynches lynches is not based upon proof's of a players alignment but on analysis of a players behaviour, they may be trying to look like they are contributing whilst actually not saying much, they may have incriminating voting patterns, the manner explain their actions might not make sense from a townies perspective etc... we do not base lynches on a "whoot! i'm alive" post from a new player a question to townies or a tenous link between a single clue and a players profile. because that is all the evidence i see voting on the main candidates makes sense but if there isn't a logical reason that suggests that town should kill that player (so they are either serejai) sound analysis suggests that the player is probably mafia then you should not vote for the main candidates On November 30 2011 03:55 Risen wrote: Yo tree.hugger where is your case against me? All I see is, well he has a lot of votes he be scum hurr durr Would accusing tree.hugger of propagating a scum agenda be a productive thing to do now- for disappearing rather than settling the issue with a simple explanation about his decision making or should i delay until tomorrow as we have more pressing issues to deal with. (the lynch candidates has very little or nothing incriminating them) It appears that zeks is getting lynched and that is unlikely to change. Bad decision but i hope he is scum. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On November 30 2011 05:15 xtfftc wrote: .......... I did not base my vote on this. It was, however, an example of the things he is interested in posting about instead of doing what every townie (especially more experienced ones like him) should be trying to do: hunt for mafia. You're comparing apples and oranges ^^ Bum is a good player who posted a serious analysis. Risen is herp-derping. Anyway, I really am done with Supersoft for now. I'm going to post on prplhz next. Yeah, when the flavor of the thread is "let's discuss out-of-game shit", people tend to discuss out-of-game shit. Supersoft was not the only player discussing those things, which is why I'm telling you that even considering it as a piece of evidence is disingenuous. | ||
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