EPTI'm really sorry for my performance today, real life is just taking time away from me.
here are my scumreads:
##Vote: DCLXVI
##Vote: chaoser
##Vote: Lemonwalrus
##Vote: RebirthOfLeGenD
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Palmar
Iceland22631 Posts
I'm really sorry for my performance today, real life is just taking time away from me. here are my scumreads: ##Vote: DCLXVI ##Vote: chaoser ##Vote: Lemonwalrus ##Vote: RebirthOfLeGenD | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
asking for replacement if there is no replacement, i don't mind a vote for me today to clear up any read issues this statement is in no way trying to cause WIFOM and shouldn't be used for deciding reads, just updating for why I haven't posted in a while best of luck to all | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22631 Posts
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Lemonwalrus
United States5465 Posts
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On November 21 2011 06:39 Lemonwalrus wrote: Good luck, before when you said you were posting from the hospital I thought you meant you worked there. I was working there, was doing a 16 hour volunteer ER shift yesterday. Ended up getting wayyy too sick. Need to use more purell next time. Palmar Iceland. Nov 20 2011 16:38 (4 min). Posts 3247 PM Profile Blog Report Quote # filter take care man Thank you, my fever is sub 100 right now but I still feel like shit. Bad stomach virus probably. They want to keep me overnight for observation. Hopefully I can be out by some time tomorrow or tuesday | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On November 21 2011 06:45 chaoser wrote: I was working there, was doing a 16 hour volunteer ER shift yesterday. Ended up getting wayyy too sick. Need to use more purell next time. Thank you, my fever is sub 100 right now but I still feel like shit. Bad stomach virus probably. They want to keep me overnight for observation. Hopefully I can be out by some time tomorrow or tuesday Get better soon | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
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Lanaia
Canada1142 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22631 Posts
On November 21 2011 06:48 chaoser wrote: It's really weird getting taken care of by the nurses that were just yesterday asking you to collect stool samples.. How cool is it that I'm wishing you dead in-game and wishing you well irl. | ||
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
What the hell happened when I was off? ##Unvote: Drazerk Just for the sake of it; I have about 50 pages to read and catch up. Plus MLG. I'll give my thoughts tomorrow only, probably. Barcraft was fucking awesome by the way. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22631 Posts
that's awesome, means I can actually contribute today. | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
I'm still a bit on the fence about chaoser.When he is town he has the potential to dominate, but when he is scum he is very good at deflecting his day1 lynch (pyp:i). The way in which he has only been focusing on the situation between himself/palmar as well as his suggestion for people to vote both himself and palmar, has resulted me reading slightly scum on him, though up until this point not enough to put down a definative vote. However, with recent developments i think someone replacing chaoser would be extremely detrimental, and bring us back to square 1 so to speak. Therefore, unless someone can point out any flaws in my logic: ##Vote: Chaoser | ||
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
I'm almost convinced RoL is town because I find it less likely a scum player would loose interest. I've been unsure on DCLXVI and Lemonwalrus but really they fall into the category as lynchable people which is mostly all you've been going after palmar and right now I'm so incredibly suspicious at you. I'm scared shitless that your role might be a godfather. These last days I've been getting very suspicious against you palmar. And It's not just what you've done I find it very interesting that you've been getting along with wbg, Most importantly none of you have questioned or brought up any of the scummy things the other have done. Imo, if one of these guys are found out to be scum we lynch them both without hesitation unless they got a fucking amazing explaination and I mean amazing and I mean the truth and I want it fast, not a couple of hours for you to cook up something in which case I will assume you've worked out a lie. My current scumteam. Prplhz xsksc Zepphird I'm convinced atleast 1 of these three is scum and potentially all three, my post. this is to odd to be ignored. However that is based on if prphlz is scum. If he flip town they go back to null-read ##Vote: wherebugsgo Palmar I'm not going to vote for him due to his getting shot claim. I think we'll find out the truth of that later. | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On November 21 2011 07:24 Zephirdd wrote: Wtf, everyone unvoted Drazerk? What the hell happened when I was off? ##Unvote: Drazerk Just for the sake of it; I have about 50 pages to read and catch up. Plus MLG. I'll give my thoughts tomorrow only, probably. Barcraft was fucking awesome by the way. That is incredibly scummy by the way unvoting someone without knowing why | ||
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Nisani201
United States1400 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + On November 16 2011 21:49 Palmar wrote: Actually, I just read Chaoser's filter ##Unvote: Coagulation ##Vote: chaoser So here's my reasoning chaoser needs to be lynched. First off, we should establish that chaoser is both analytical and critical as town. His play this game starkly contrasts that idea. He is throwing accusations and votes both left and right without actually doing much to back them up. Now, this leads us to think what would make chaoser throw his votes around like this. The only sensible reason to do that as town is to apply pressure, but when you are the one being pressured it's actually not beneficial to do this, because no one is going to listen to you anyway. The optimal town play in this situation is to try as hard as you can to build reputation for people to listen to you for. However, chaoser seems not even slightly interested in raising his status in the game, feeling pretty comfortable being not listened to at all. Something only scum is interested in. This one is particularly interesting. First off, we have to understand how sinani206 works to see if this is legit. Remember, sinani206 hasn't got the greatest track record as town or scum, but he does have his tells like everyone else. This little vote he placed on chaoser seems to be pretty genuine. Like he's not pro enough as scum to realize that doing something like that with his meta as scum is excellent play, and thus the simplest explanation is that sinani206 is town. chaoser should have understood this, yet he directly OMGUS votes sinani206, even gloating about the fact he's voting multiple people. So yes, I think chaoser would be an excellent lynch today. Also, just for future reference: This is chaoser soft-claiming a power-role. No reason to do it unless you're scum. If you can't understand how he's soft-claiming a power role, well... you deserve to be punched. So yeah, let's kill that guy. This is his initial analysis on Chaoser. There are 3 points in this analysis: 1. chaoser is voting a lot of people. 2. chaoser is OMGUSing sinani206 3. chaoser is "softclaiming a power role." The first point is incorrect because this game has a mechanic that is special for voting multiple people. The second point is wrong because chaoser's vote on Sinani206 is not OMGUS The third point doesn't even make sense. This bullshit analysis is the origin of our trust for Palmar. And it has branched into a case against chaoser that makes absolutely no sense. wherebugsgo's analysis on Chaoser is identical to Palmar's, but that is for another time. Later in the day he votes for both Kenpachi and Lanaia, both for stupid reasons. Even though he said that chaoser should condense his targets, we have Palmar targeting a total of 3 people. Going for multiple targets isn't scummy. But what is scummy is self-contradiction. Speaking of which... On November 17 2011 08:19 Palmar wrote: How is that relevant chaoser, I don't want to lynch you because you're outspoken, I want to lynch you because you're playing anti-town, you lied about your role-claim and you're making bad calls. I think I am being fairly outspoken, I'm just playing pro-town, and thus no one wants to lynch me. Palmar is now accusing chaoser of playing "anti-town," and for lying. First of all, we have no evidence that chaoser is lying (other than "you are not vanilla town, that is not a possibility"). and second of all, Palmar provided no evidence of "anti-town." BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE! On November 17 2011 10:09 Palmar wrote: I'm gonna sleep. Chaoser: why did you throw those votes around so liberally early on? Please explain your thought process and what you wanted to achieve. If I believe your answer I'll consider laying off you. Palmar is now implying that chaoser's multi-vote was actually a pretty important factor in the case, and that he'll dismiss it if chaoser can justify it. Another contradiction: On November 17 2011 10:23 Palmar wrote: (when you voted for sinani206 you said something like "I'm so happy I get to vote for many people), makes me believe that there is an ulterior motive to it. On November 16 2011 23:54 Palmar wrote: oh wait... I can vote for multiple people? That's awesome ##Vote Coagulation ##Vote Drazerk While these contradictions are scummy, we have to go back to the point of Palmar manipulating us and stealing our trust. Now you might say, "is he really stealing our trust? Surely you're taking this too far." But this fact is evident in this post, where he directs blues: + Show Spoiler + As for townies, any medics should be protecting into this group of players: Forumite Tyrren risk.nuke Palmar Wherebugsgo If we have investigative roles, we should be checking into this group of players chaoser Lemonwalrus Greymist Bumatlarge Zephirdd If we have vigilantes they should be focusing on people who are hellbent on being useless and scummy to boot. Nisani201 Drazerk xskxc etc etc Yes, i'm directing blues, what about it bitches? There is no reason for town to direct blues. Blues should direct themselves, because they are confirmed town to themselves and can make their own opinions. If we give someone else this kind of control, it transfers it to unknown alignment. In this case, that alignment is scum. ...and then there's this. I stated this before, he wants to nullify my thoughts against him because he knows it's coming: On November 18 2011 23:56 Palmar wrote: yah, do you have a problem with that? Like, I'm almost just as certain that nisani201 is scum, and I don't care if some hero of the town shoots him and leaves him dead in a ditch, he's not going to be useful anyway. Even if he's town nothing of value was lost. I will conclude my analysis with a scumlist that Palmar provides. Currently it provides no reasoning; however I wouldn't be surprised if he follows it up later today. On November 21 2011 06:05 Palmar wrote: I had an initial town read on prplhz, I'm sorry but I don't have time to expand upon that, so I'm just gonna go ahead and not support a lynch on him. I'm really sorry for my performance today, real life is just taking time away from me. here are my scumreads: ##Vote: DCLXVI ##Vote: chaoser ##Vote: Lemonwalrus ##Vote: RebirthOfLeGenD Stop being manipulated. Get out of your box. Realize that Palmar is scum, and vote for him. | ||
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
On November 21 2011 07:46 risk.nuke wrote: My current scumteam. Prplhz xsksc Zepphird I'm convinced atleast 1 of these three is scum and potentially all three, my post. this is to odd to be ignored. However that is based on if prphlz is scum. If he flip town they go back to null-read As I had said, I didn't have much time. I didn't even read any posts besides the host's. All I did was to vote on Drazerk based on day 1 perspective, completely clueless of what was happening. I am still interested in Drazerk's claim that he can't be lynched; and based on the information that he is Mason, I assume that claim comes from the fact that hyshes can save him from a lynch, given necessity. That is, if they really are masons and really have the ability to "not be lynched, even if you want to"; But this game is made of assumptions and not math so I'll roll with that. I still have a few pages to catch up(and I'm distracted by NANIWAAAAA on mlg), hold on to it. Also, given the fact that Drazerk has no votes anymore, I assume that "true Masons", if they existed, have not claimed their right; which means Drazerk and hyshes can't be Mafia fakeclaiming Masonry. On November 21 2011 07:56 Drazerk wrote: That is incredibly scummy by the way unvoting someone without knowing why My only reason to vote you would be to test those "lynch proof" abilities you claimed to have back on day one, but with zero possibility of testing these abilities(as everyone unvoted you), there is no point in leaving the vote there. I could vote you back any time if needed anyways. As I said in one of my earlier posts, my votes will be volatile. That goes both ways. Sorry if that means to be scummy, but I don't see it that way. Now, back to reading. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22631 Posts
a) you're wrong. b) I won't be lynched c) even in that case, there's somewhere out there a medic who can claim to save me. | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On November 21 2011 08:00 Nisani201 wrote: Palmar is an interesting case. Though many of you have a reason to trust him, we have to realize that part of the reason that he is trusted is because he is Palmar. The other reason is this post: + Show Spoiler + On November 16 2011 21:49 Palmar wrote: Actually, I just read Chaoser's filter ##Unvote: Coagulation ##Vote: chaoser So here's my reasoning chaoser needs to be lynched. First off, we should establish that chaoser is both analytical and critical as town. His play this game starkly contrasts that idea. He is throwing accusations and votes both left and right without actually doing much to back them up. Now, this leads us to think what would make chaoser throw his votes around like this. The only sensible reason to do that as town is to apply pressure, but when you are the one being pressured it's actually not beneficial to do this, because no one is going to listen to you anyway. The optimal town play in this situation is to try as hard as you can to build reputation for people to listen to you for. However, chaoser seems not even slightly interested in raising his status in the game, feeling pretty comfortable being not listened to at all. Something only scum is interested in. This one is particularly interesting. First off, we have to understand how sinani206 works to see if this is legit. Remember, sinani206 hasn't got the greatest track record as town or scum, but he does have his tells like everyone else. This little vote he placed on chaoser seems to be pretty genuine. Like he's not pro enough as scum to realize that doing something like that with his meta as scum is excellent play, and thus the simplest explanation is that sinani206 is town. chaoser should have understood this, yet he directly OMGUS votes sinani206, even gloating about the fact he's voting multiple people. So yes, I think chaoser would be an excellent lynch today. Also, just for future reference: This is chaoser soft-claiming a power-role. No reason to do it unless you're scum. If you can't understand how he's soft-claiming a power role, well... you deserve to be punched. So yeah, let's kill that guy. This is his initial analysis on Chaoser. There are 3 points in this analysis: 1. chaoser is voting a lot of people. 2. chaoser is OMGUSing sinani206 3. chaoser is "softclaiming a power role." The first point is incorrect because this game has a mechanic that is special for voting multiple people. The second point is wrong because chaoser's vote on Sinani206 is not OMGUS The third point doesn't even make sense. 1. Voting a lot of people is still stupidly scummy even with the game mechanic, In fact I would say the game mechanic behind the multiple votes would be much more beneficial for scum to abuse. 2. His vote was an Omgus vote 3. Soft claiming a power role is stupid ( Shush I know I did it in this game Palmar but town was stupid and never realized it ) and is normally something scum would do when they are being pressured into a lynch 4. Palmar has claimed being shot and I can guarantee you now that there is another medic in this game so I am more than willing to believe that Palmar is town. 5. Why are more people still not voting for you? | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On November 21 2011 07:46 risk.nuke wrote: Chaoser has been subject to lynching for a long time, I'm starting to belive he might be town, either way I don't want to lynch him today. Imo I have better candidates for today, wbg and prphlz. I'm almost convinced RoL is town because I find it less likely a scum player would loose interest. I've been unsure on DCLXVI and Lemonwalrus but really they fall into the category as lynchable people which is mostly all you've been going after palmar and right now I'm so incredibly suspicious at you. I'm scared shitless that your role might be a godfather. These last days I've been getting very suspicious against you palmar. And It's not just what you've done I find it very interesting that you've been getting along with wbg, Most importantly none of you have questioned or brought up any of the scummy things the other have done. Imo, if one of these guys are found out to be scum we lynch them both without hesitation unless they got a fucking amazing explaination and I mean amazing and I mean the truth and I want it fast, not a couple of hours for you to cook up something in which case I will assume you've worked out a lie. My current scumteam. Prplhz xsksc Zepphird I'm convinced atleast 1 of these three is scum and potentially all three, my post. this is to odd to be ignored. However that is based on if prphlz is scum. If he flip town they go back to null-read ##Vote: wherebugsgo Palmar I'm not going to vote for him due to his getting shot claim. I think we'll find out the truth of that later. You say you have a better candidate in me but you don't even talk about me in your post. God you people...I just don't understand | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
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