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On November 19 2011 08:49 Nisani201 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2011 07:09 wherebugsgo wrote:
A player like Nisani or Drazerk is best left to a vig shot because they will not contribute much if they are town and we try to lynch them.
Why do you keep saying this? Stop dictatin what contributions I will make in the thread. You keep saying that I will be useless D2, but I know exactly what I am going to do. I'm going to push for your lynch, as well as Drazerk's. You know this is coming, whci his why, right now, you're trying to nullify everything I say by putting it under the label of "useless." That way, when Drazerk is lynched, you can take the credit. You don't want a vig to shoot me because I'll be useless. You want a vig to shoot me so you can bus Drazerk all by yourself. You're scared because you see me as a threat. If there are any vigs here, think before you shoot.
I'd like to see that analysis of WBG that you promised nisani, so far all you have done is said you would focus on drazerk and wbg, and then gone and said you are going to solely focus on palmar/wbg, and then went to only make a case on palmar.
I'm feeling rather short changed.
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Greymist the simple fact that you have to ask that of Nisani should probably tell you that he needs to die.
He's not interested in being transparent or following through on what he says. He contradicts himself constantly. He's scum.
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On November 21 2011 09:22 wherebugsgo wrote:
Greymist the simple fact that you have to ask that of Nisani should probably tell you that he needs to die.
He's not interested in being transparent or following through on what he says. He contradicts himself constantly. He's scum.
He certainly does appear scummy, I'm just worried he is another misguided, loud townie. I'd like to hear his response to this pressure.
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He's not loud at all, he just looks loud when people call him out.
Look on the other side of it. Look at the difference between prpl and nisani. They both appear loud but prpl is far more consistent. That's why I think he's more town than nisani.
Nisani as town is loud and consistently loud. He tunnels hard, but he also doesn't let go of that tunnel even for a second. In this game he just OMGUSes and attacks everyone who thinks he's scum. Then, as you've noticed, he forgets people randomly. In MLP when he caught onto me being scum he never let go. He didn't even bother considering anyone else.
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@cyber_cheese
neither of them really posted anything of consequence today, although sabino did suggest voting 6 of us off because he is pretty sure there are around 3 mafia in these six:
+ Show Spoiler +On November 19 2011 00:54 Sabin010 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2011 15:10 bumatlarge wrote:
/confirm
I'm mostly interested in the multi-lynch. It's possible to blanket votes over multiple scummy players, so if instead of busting LSBs balls on posting piles of garbage, I'll echo the analysis statement. There is no wrong way to do it, just post who and why. And going out of your way to point out someone is acting townie does not help any discussion. I'll vote anyone who has a good argument against them.
And since I only know a quarter of the player-base, I'll forgive Hiroruby for his fairly obvious insights, because it's effort and if he can forge that into scumhunting, it makes the town that much stronger.
And also I see no reason not to do this.
##Vote Kenpachi
And I will most likely not be taking it off until I see something that benefits town come out of his mouth. I don't really care about spam, I'll read all of it anyway so I won't discourage it. It will just help my reads so thats all I'm concerned about. This post started the the voting for Kenpachi. The following people voted yes on both lynches. DCLXVU, Drazerk, Zephirdd, Riske.nuke, Tyrran, Lemon Walrus, and Cyber_Cheese. Drazerk FoS'd Sinani first, and Chaoser started the voting for him. If Bumatlarge was mafia out of the people that put 2 yes votes on the two who are dead the following DID NOT vote for Bumatlarge, DCLXVI, Drazerk, Zephirdd, Tyrran, Cyber_Cheese. If I'm hit tonight there is a good chance there are at 3 or more Mafia out of those 6 people, but if Bumatlarge is not mafia I need to go and re-analyze the data. On November 19 2011 17:52 Sabin010 wrote:
Rebirthoflegend dude I hope you're not mafia because I had a list of six guys who were potential mafia, and I'm really drunk rigght now, but if I was right we got at least 3 of these guys (Bumatlarge, DCLXVI, Drazerk, Zephirdd, Tyrran, Cyber_Cheese) as mafia. I made a post earlier expaining how I came to the conclusion, but after seeing a new person and being drunk on a friday night lets lynch them. On November 19 2011 17:53 Sabin010 wrote:
oh yeah and if half of those guys are mafia we're tradingg 1:1 while we still have a numbers advantage.
I do not think it would be in the town's favor to lynch that many people in a day given the weak analysis and just going by 2 votes. Still, I am through with voting bad townies, so I do not think sabino or kibibit should go today. They are too hard to read given their lack of posts and I think we can find better targets today.
@forumite/risk.nuke
lol
@prplhz
I see nothing suspicious in his posts other than he too voted for both of the lynched blues yesterday. Why do you keep asking about him? Am I missing something?
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I can't shake it. Palmar getting hit and protected yesterday is stupid as shit. I guarentee no medic protected him, and I would be baffled if mafia actually shot him. I can't reason that out without it being a scummy lie. I was willing to break away from the palmar/chaoser gig for a day and deal with prplhz and such, but this needs to be dealt with.
Palmar was in no position to get shot. He was direct with his opinions, but a majority of people I see as town were extremely suspicious of him. I feel like I would get the same train of thought coming from chaoser claiming a hit. It was a main topic of discussion for the later half of the first night and the ENTIRE night. Palmar saying he took a hit means his whole deal with chaoser meant something to mafia. Palmar flipping town from a scum hit makes chaoser look a lot better rather then buying another lynch for them.
1 - Either Palmar is scum and this is a play of desperation, which seems to be working.
2 - Or mafia has a really poor team.
I will not be assuming case #2. I need palmar to explain exactly why he thinks he was shot along side LSB (whose last analysis assessed palmar as scum). There is no WIFOM here, the night hits as people seem to accept them make no sense. If it was Palmar and WBG? There is reason behind that, it puts a lot of heat on chaoser and LSB, and if mafia can utilize that in their discussion for an entire day, regardless of what ends up happening. It would seem more logical that LSB was stacked with two hits (I'm doubting 1kp when we already had a super Doc flip).
##Vote: Palmar
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Why would I explain mafia shots? I have no idea.
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On November 21 2011 09:22 wherebugsgo wrote:
Greymist the simple fact that you have to ask that of Nisani should probably tell you that he needs to die.
He's not interested in being transparent or following through on what he says. He contradicts himself constantly. He's scum.
LOL YA HE'S TOTALLY USELESS BECUZ HE'S ATTACKING MY SCUMBUDDY! OLOLOLOLOLOLOL LET'S IGNORE HIM.
Anyways, yes I admit that I shouldn't have said I would go for WBG, since I'm going for Palmar today. tbh it doesn't really matter because they're both scumbuddies, and share the exact same opinions.
The entire purpose of the scumteam is to brainwash you into thinking that I'm useless. There's no other reason for them to keep reminding you of that in the thread, other than following a scum agenda.
Read the analysis I made on Palmar, one more time.
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I'm inclined to believe Palmar's hit claim for now. I don't believe that there is a vig out there who hit him. This means that he got hit by mafia. If two people aren't hit by mafia tomorrow then we'll know a lot more about this situation. Palmar is a poor lynch today, we wait and see if scum really has 2KP, which doesn't sound far fetched.
@wherebugsgo
Isn't that exactly what he's doing here? Nisani201 has been on your back since the beginning of this game. I also don't think he's less loud than me, probably more loud. Loud is a bad thing here, Nisani201 is saying stuff like "herp" in caps.
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P.s. guys, I'll retype it sometime Monday,but I'm starting to be against lyncing chaoser due to some insight gleaned from ~3 days of mafia practice. I lost my earlier decently long post du to a phone lockup. I've ben getting it a lot since updating
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I need to read this thread and make a few votes.
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On November 21 2011 13:43 Sabin010 wrote:
I need to read this thread and make a few votes.
Yes, that is indeed what forum mafia boils down to.
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On November 21 2011 13:23 prplhz wrote:
I'm inclined to believe Palmar's hit claim for now. I don't believe that there is a vig out there who hit him. This means that he got hit by mafia. If two people aren't hit by mafia tomorrow then we'll know a lot more about this situation. Palmar is a poor lynch today, we wait and see if scum really has 2KP, which doesn't sound far fetched.
@wherebugsgo
Isn't that exactly what he's doing here? Nisani201 has been on your back since the beginning of this game. I also don't think he's less loud than me, probably more loud. Loud is a bad thing here, Nisani201 is saying stuff like "herp" in caps.
No, read more carefully. In MLP Nisani attacked me before I attacked him. He built a reasonable case and then tunneled, ignoring everyone. He tunneled so hard that practically no other player existed to him.
In this game he just OMGUSed me and never built any sort of case. It's more similar to XLV than anything else.
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Sorry I haven't posted more today. I have a huge exam tomorrow. I will post as soon as that's over. I promise. I have read the thread and had inconclusive results.
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I'm going to go ahead vote DCLXVI. His first couple posts struck me as empty sounding/scummy. Since then some of his posting has included:
On November 18 2011 07:03 DCLXVI wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2011 06:55 Kenpachi wrote:
what my flip does: It softconfirms Lanaia. that is all well I think that I will know a lot about chaoser when you flip Which he never explained nor has he said what his opinion is on Chaoser since then.
He mentions he wants to wait until he can vote to start discussing...and still has yet to vote.
On November 19 2011 04:19 DCLXVI wrote:
I would rather wait until morning to start discussing again so I can start throwing down votes, I trust the remaining blues to use their roles wisely. On November 20 2011 04:04 DCLXVI wrote:I won't cast any votes now, later in the day I will.
And overall he has had a number of long posts, but many of them don't actually take a position. In fact, he doesn't seem to have had a solid stance on declaring someone scummy or not since day 1 ended.
I'm going to go read up on WBG in regard to Drazerk, not sure about that. That last part is scummy, however the rest of it is not enough to warrant a lynch just yet. Either I can believe that he did not have time for long posts or he wanted sinani dead, I have not made up my mind. Still, I am through with voting bad townies, so I do not think sabino or kibibit should go today. They are too hard to read given their lack of posts and I think we can find better targets today. And no, he did not list who any of those better targets might be.
While thoughtful consideration is good, doing nothing but giving non-committal statements is rather scummy.
##Vote: DCLXVI
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Forgot to bold >.>
##Vote: DCLXVI
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##Vote: Palmar
##Vote: Kenpachi
##Vote: Coagulation
These 3 are scummy as fuck based off the posts I have read from each of them.
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On November 21 2011 15:11 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
##Vote: Palmar
##Vote: Kenpachi
##Vote: Coagulation
These 3 are scummy as fuck based off the posts I have read from each of them.
...I regret to inform you Kenpachi has already been lynched and flipped town watchful doctor...
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On November 20 2011 14:41 prplhz wrote:guys I don't think prplhz is scum, here is why... The case against me today is the following: before sinani206 was lynched I wrote in caps that I thought that people should stop voting for him. Since it was in caps, I clearly did not mean what I was saying. This means that I am scum. I disagree with this. My play so far this game has been: First I argued with Cyber_Cheese for some time about policy lynches. I don't like policy lynches, especially lurker lynches because, as I said in my posts, they are scum favored. Scum will just stop lurking if we start voting for them for lurking while people like Kenpachi will get subtly killed off by mafia. I stopped arguing with Cyber_Cheese when I realized that I'd made my point and arguing over policies is often rather pointless, it defeats the point of the policies if it appears that we don't agree on them. After that I started posting one liners in caps. There was not a single one of these one liners I didn't mean. I wrote in caps one liners because I wanted people to know my opinion but I didn't want any mafia to take me too seriously. I did a somewhat comparable thing in TMMM when I posted without punctuation and it goaded GMarshal into making a terrible case on me. What I said actually made sense, he just jumped me because he didn't like the form. Townies shouldn't do this, they should read the thread and not just say "lol caps = scum". (yes, I was lynched in TMMM day1 but that was because neither me nor my team mate was around in the last 8 hours and town decided to jump on us in the last minute when we couldn't even defend ourselves). I was the first to vote for Drazerk yesterday because I went through his filter and it was full of non committal stuff, he was voting for Sabin010 because of the mob-incident, this is not the Drazerk I know, that Drazerk is all over the place voting for everybody not just for a guy lying by accident with some poor formulations of his past experience. The Drazerk I know is a boss, not some guy hiding behind a stupid policy for his vote. My vote on Drazerk today wasn't a bandwagon, it was a continuation from yesterday when I was the first one to vote for Drazerk because I thought he was scum. I didn't think he'd done much to shed the suspicion I had on him. Now can anybody mention any single thing I've that has been scummy? I realize I might not have been overly town, but that does not make me scum by far. But I have been pushing town agenda all game, maybe not as strong as you'd like it, but you can't mention anywhere where I've actually done something scummy. Because I haven't. The least you can do if you are going to lynch me is not all bandwagon Forumite's case. Write your own case. - bumarlarge: Voted for me yesterday with a half-arsed case. Today he's just voting me.
- risk.nuke: Saying he went over my filter and now he's just voting me.
- Kibibit: Just voting me from his phone.
- hyshes: His reason to vote for me was that he plainly states that he thought I was talking shit when I wrote something in caps. It's my fault he lynched sinani206 because he thought I was talking shit! Also, apparently scum don't have time to read his filter but townies do. This logic doesn't hold.
- Drazerk: He is voting for me because I remind him of himself. What the fuck is this?
- Nisani201: Parroting Forumite.
Your entire view on lynching liars/lurkers was antitown. That being said, I skimmed all your posts and don't think you are scum, I just think you are dumb. I'd have to read more carefully and in context, but I am more inclined to think you are making dumb statements as opposed to anti town statements.
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On November 21 2011 15:14 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2011 15:11 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
##Vote: Palmar
##Vote: Kenpachi
##Vote: Coagulation
These 3 are scummy as fuck based off the posts I have read from each of them. ...I regret to inform you Kenpachi has already been lynched and flipped town watchful doctor...
We should lynch him again, I don't believe it.
I was basing that off his ever annoying day 1 townie claims.
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