Steamship Liquidia (TL Mafia 46) - Page 78

On November 16 2011 22:40 risk.nuke wrote:

By giving town his reads, You're right lets kill him.

Palmar can't manipulate squat unless you count that because he is sharing his reads and that makes him lean more to town. Because sharing reads is a town move which makes his candidates seem more scum. But this goes for everyone who shares his reads. You want to say that sharing your reads are deceitfull and manipulative. It seems like your point in that statement was to alert people not to follow palmar blindly. Which there was really no risk of happening. To me it looks like a way to make a subtile pro-town post and that's mafia maner.
FoS prplhz

On November 17 2011 02:33 risk.nuke wrote:

Wbg be mindfull so you don't accidently start tunneling.

On November 17 2011 06:32 risk.nuke wrote:
Okey, but isn't this exacly one of those situations where we connected two people and should not lynch both of them incase they are town.

##Vote Kenpachi

On November 17 2011 06:47 risk.nuke wrote:

If kenpachi is green, then lanaia probably isn't scum.
If kenpachi is red we got a scumkill even if that doesn't necessarily mean lanaia is his buddy.

If lanai is green that means nothing for kenpachis alignment.
If lanai is red then kenpachi is scum.

I think we learn more from knowing kenpachis alignment.

On November 18 2011 09:34 risk.nuke wrote:
Just read http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=282366&user=31777
He makes a huge case on prphlz and doesn't follow up, but goes inactive for the entire day.
##Vote: bumatlarge

On November 18 2011 22:28 risk.nuke wrote:
These are the people I think need investigation.
The people who voted for Kenpachi, Lanaia and Sinani

Lemonwalrus, GreYMisT, Zephirdd, Drazerk,



Nisani claims himelf not to want to lynch kenpachi anymore, but note he doesn't unvote and 3 minutes later...

...Cybercheese nailes Kenpachis coffin.
That's a scummy connection worth looking in to

On another note. Town (that includes me) are playing like shit and it's going to stop now.
The accused defends themselves with arguments like "you're idiots, fuck you". It's your own fucking fault for getting yourself lynched. Period.
The only defense I've seen is from Lanaia who explains everything in his thoughtprocess and as result he did not get lynched, not even close. And that is exacly how every fucking one of you are going to defend yourself from now on. Copy?

Then we have the accusers. I know it's easy when you feel like you have a gut feeling on someone, you want them lynched and suddenly you've just copied something just so you type a reason to vote. Enough of that lazy shit, sit down and really think why you feel like you feel. That way when asked about it later you can answer truthfully. or maybe you realised you don't actually want the person dead after all. The next person who quotes someone and votes I am going to slap. Because if townies are throwing around votes without explaining an acceptable thoughtprocess mafia can do the same and nobody can tell the difference.

In short. Defend yourself by explaining your truthfull thoughtprocess.
Accuse someone by explaining your truthfull thoughtprocess. Now read this out loud 3 times.

On November 21 2011 07:46 risk.nuke wrote:
Chaoser has been subject to lynching for a long time, I'm starting to belive he might be town, either way I don't want to lynch him today. Imo I have better candidates for today, wbg and prphlz.

I'm almost convinced RoL is town because I find it less likely a scum player would loose interest.
I've been unsure on DCLXVI and Lemonwalrus but really they fall into the category as lynchable people which is mostly all you've been going after palmar and right now I'm so incredibly suspicious at you. I'm scared shitless that your role might be a godfather.

These last days I've been getting very suspicious against you palmar. And It's not just what you've done I find it very interesting that you've been getting along with wbg, Most importantly none of you have questioned or brought up any of the scummy things the other have done. Imo, if one of these guys are found out to be scum we lynch them both without hesitation unless they got a fucking amazing explaination and I mean amazing and I mean the truth and I want it fast, not a couple of hours for you to cook up something in which case I will assume you've worked out a lie.

My current scumteam.
Prplhz
xsksc
Zepphird I'm convinced atleast 1 of these three is scum and potentially all three, my post. this is to odd to be ignored. However that is based on if prphlz is scum. If he flip town they go back to null-read
##Vote: wherebugsgo
Palmar I'm not going to vote for him due to his getting shot claim. I think we'll find out the truth of that later.

On November 20 2011 04:04 DCLXVI wrote:
@forumite about prplhz
After reading through his filter I noticed a few things. He starts off cool headed and logical, arguing in a way I appreciate. He spends his time arguing about the LAL and lurkers we got bogged down in the first 36 hours. The interesting bit about that is that he says that he wants to lynch a lurker or two per day to prevent lurkers, but to also not slaughter bored townies too quickly. He then jumps on the Kenpachi bandwagon, apparently that was a good lurker to lynch... He also makes a small case on Hiroruby which was forgotten about as louder players took over the thread. While it was on a mildly telling post or two and imo not enough to lynch on, it should be reconsidered today. While RoL is a different player, we should not forget what Hiroruby said. Unfortunately, prplhz does not reinforce his arguments and so later in the day he instead opts to abandon logic in favor of volume in hopes of being heard over the chaoser/wbg/palmar shouting match. Based on his claims today he did this because he did not have time to make long convincing posts, and was too late to provide a reason to not lynch sinani. That last part is scummy, however the rest of it is not enough to warrant a lynch just yet.
I do not agree with him that votes without a stated reason should be considered thought out, and that caps lock equals a convincing statement, but I suppose we all have different views on how much time should be committed to the game. Either I can believe that he did not have time for long posts or he wanted sinani dead, I have not made up my mind.

On November 21 2011 18:42 Forumite wrote:

If you are still undecided about prplhz then I hope you will make up your mind soon. For or against the lynch doesn´t matter, but take a stand.

On November 21 2011 16:36 xsksc wrote:
Just woke up and skimmed the thread, got to run for work now.
Just realised I hadn't voted yet, I'll post explanations for these later, hopefully during lunch.

##Vote: Prphlz
##Vote: Nisani201

On November 21 2011 18:43 prplhz wrote:


If for or against doesn't matter then it seems like you're trying to lynch me for information. I'd very much prefer if you didn't do that.

On November 21 2011 19:07 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
I was on the fence about this one. I still don't feel sure about voting him, and I feel like there are better options for today.
##Unvote: Prplhz

I feel like Nisani is much in the same boat as him, with the difference that Prplhz seems to be able to express some form of transparency for things he does.
Nisani has shown he is capable of making good posts
+ Show Spoiler +
And yet most of his posts are one liners, and votes with minimal explaination, he seems to be deliberately holding information back from the town
##Vote: Nisani

On November 21 2011 19:19 Forumite wrote:

Cyber_Cheese, saying that there are better options for a lynch is not a reason to unvote prplhz. What is the real reason prplhz doesn´t deserve your vote? Is it something he said? Why doesn´t the original case around the sinani lynch have any weight now? I hope it´s a good reason, because with 10 votes on prplhz, now 9, you are taking an active stand to defend him from the lynch, and I want to know why you would do that.

On November 21 2011 19:26 Cyber_Cheese wrote:

He's hard to read, he makes some terrible moves as both town and scum. I want to lynch Nisani or Prplhz today, but not both, and I feel like Nisani is the scummier candidate.

On November 21 2011 19:40 Forumite wrote:

You unvote despite there being enough reason to lynch of prplhz, because you´d rather lynch Nisani instead?

On November 21 2011 19:44 Zephirdd wrote:
Alright, hot topics.

prplhz seems to be the hot topic, however while reading his filter I've been getting mixed feelings from him. His initial posts are terrible, however he provides a good point: "if you need a reason, just ask". I don't think people asked him enough earlier on, and yet they all went over him. People gave shit on him because of a Caps post, but he said it as well: town reads, scum just hunts for whatever thing could be used to create a case against him. Which leads me to ...

Forumite, the first to vote on prplhz this day. During day 1, he did not vote Kenpachi despite clearly stating that his play was proscum/antitown. He then proceeded to vote for sinani and basically beg for votes.
Later at night, he goes to direct doctors at risk.nuke, quoting a generic "Guys player better!" post by him.
Forumite has been active on directing the players, directly asking about specific players. He also seems to be blind to prplhz's reasoning and is just following the case with the Caps Lock thing, just like scum would do it(attacking out of the slightest argument)

Forumite also seems to put 110% of his efforts to lynch prplhz and prplhz only, as if he was trying to remove attention from other scummy looking players.

This is my read on him.
##Vote: Forumite

TL;DR: prplhz feels town for me, Forumite feels scum.

On November 21 2011 19:47 Cyber_Cheese wrote:

How many lynches do you want today?

On November 21 2011 19:44 Zephirdd wrote:
He also seems to be blind to prplhz's reasoning and is just following the case with the Caps Lock thing, just like scum would do it(attacking out of the slightest argument)

On November 21 2011 20:08 Forumite wrote:

I´m not convinced by his reasoning because nothing he says actually defend what he did. He still thinks he made it clear that he was against a sinani lynch, and that "LESS PEOPLE ON SINANI" was a well thought out post, which should have swayed Town opinion and saved sinani.

On November 19 2011 16:41 prplhz wrote:
I think, in a game with multiple lynches, maybe it's unlikely that we have a ton of vigis. Also, if they had any brains, they wouldn't have shot on night1.