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@Ciryandor
In an earlier post you said the following:
+ Show Spoiler +I personally have a good vote that I want to expound on right now, but I want to see more posting from that person before I cast it, as it may yield more information on him.
And now you have decided to vote me. Did you already make up your mind before I did my post? As far as I can tell, the only thing you seem to base your suspicion on is the fact that I made a point about timezones. I think you are over-analyzing things way too hard, stop looking for something who is not there.
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lol just checked it myself and yeah got the same result. Zanfa get yourself in this thread and tell us what's going to happen with your vote. Are you going to keep voting for hacklebeast? I'm assuming you'll either change your vote to skrammen or me.
A vote on yourself would be stupid and a vote on someone you're holding the only vote on is not going to get us anywhere, too. So voting for hacklebeast is not going to get us anywhere right now.
Also I would like to see those others guys stick to that rule. We need to lynch someone. Right now it's either zanfas, skrammen or me. A vote on someone else is a pretty heavy scumtell, so go ahead.
Also keep in mind there's probably at least 1 mafia around, or even two who already placed his/their vote/s to try and make people follow him. Especially if one of those 3 turns out to be mafia.
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United Kingdom1044 Posts
##vote Skrammen
I'm still suspicious of zanfada, I want to see him reply soon. I could well change my vote to him, depends on his next post.
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@Chocolate
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Not once did you FoS on me, yet you preffered to vote me instead of zanfa. You also FoS'd Ciry but claim you didnt. You seem to be a bit everywhere, throwing suspicions left and right. To me, it appears like you are trying to be a bit of an instigator while saying very little of substance. You've posted nearly as little as I have done, and you say you vote me because of lack of activity?
##Vote Chocolate
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On November 01 2011 03:37 IMABUNNEH wrote:Show nested quote +
Mafia can't really kill me right now, because if they do and I flip green town gets massive amounts of information from previous posts since I was a topic the last pages. Same with zanfas, that is if he turns out to be green.
I think this sounds like you're already getting reasoning behind not being killed. You jump around a lot and most of your posts seem like you're going out of your way to let people know you're totally town. Other people look suspicious, but to me this looks like a balls out attempt to control the game yourself among newer players. For that reason... ##Vote Toadesstern
well obviously because I am town ![[image loading]](http://starcraft2.ingame.de/forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
No let's get this serious. At least one group of voters will have to change their mind. Right now we got 3 an skrammen, only 4 voters left + zanfa who's going to change his vote. So If everyone but one votes for skrammen we're able to get a lynch. That's not going to happen. Maybe one of those lurkers is going to get modkilled and won't show up at all. Skrammen himself is within those 5 left over voters, he won't vote for himself now will he? What happens if he is red and one of those voters left over is red, too? He surely won't vote for him and will have an easy time voting for zanfa or me.
Same goes for zanfa votes and those on me.
We will need to voters from one of those 3 to one of those 2 remaining to make this happen.
And about jumping around, well yeah it's day 1. I want to get as much "strange" posts from people as possible. So far we got a bunch and no matter who dies today, we'll have pretty good information about mafia.
Let's assume I'm red and I'm getting lynched. In that case you probably want to go after those who did not vote for me or did defend me.
However if I get lynched and flip green or blue you got a pretty descend guess on who is mafia, because it's most likely 3 out of those 7 who need to vote for me.
Same goes for everyone.
If we get a no-lynch we're not getting information at all because noone will know for certain if whatever stories are true or not and we're just turning around.
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Just to clear things up: I wrote that before xsksc and Skrammen posted, at least I did not see those posts. So my numbers in my example need to be changed. However, with skrammen voting for a no-lynch (read what i said about that and why that is the worst thing for town) I'm going to stick with him.
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Apologies, I have been hardlurking all day, not by intent I didn't find time to read and analyse untill now.
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To be honest i was hoping my early vote would cause a bangwagon to analyze but it seems the mafia are playing to timid for that ploy to work. Which makes me think that the mafia are doing a lot of FOSing but not a lot of acting till they can slide in at the end. I think the majority of our day 1 info will be right at the end of the day with a quick bandwagon.
That said, the 3 people up for the chopping block are Skram, Toad, and myself. Out of those three Skram looks like the best target.
Toad has been actively attacking people and creating leads.
Skram doesn't seem like 100% scum to me but he seems like the best choice with lynch so close. He has been tentative to vote for anyone till chocolate threw a vote his way which forced him to act. I think he was hopping to slip by day one with attracting to much attention. Which is good enough for me. However if he turns up green I am going to be looking scummy as hell for join the bandwagon.
##unvote hacklebeast
##Vote Skrammen
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Everyone respond to everything somebody throws against you. Even small stuff. I know it can be done to get by for a while ignoring minor suspicions because "oh look, they dropped me" or "it doesn't seem important". However for everything you do respond to it gives town more information.
There are a few more hours left so if you can ditch in a few last efforts.
On November 01 2011 02:03 Toadesstern wrote:
I still don't like what risk is doing here: nothing. If he's not going to make a vote and is going to get modkilled that's fine with me (not really but I can't do a thing about it), however if he showes up sometimes soon and does NOT get modkilled I want a pretty damn good explanation for what he's doing.
Scrammen seems to be a bit strange while I did not think about Drem until now, will take another read.
Toad, your play is inconsistant and all over the place. I can't tell if you're scum or just new. It's as if you're going for a town powerposition but you don't really know how to achieve it. I really don't like you're jumping on skrammen rather then defending yourself.
##Vote Toadesstern
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United Kingdom1044 Posts
zanfada could you please reply to my post on page 12?
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sure, just a sec, creating a notes page (which i should have done at the start of the game my bad)
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On October 31 2011 16:23 xsksc wrote:
Zanfada
Not posted a lot so far but he looks very strange to me. 1 vote and a FOS in 2 posts. I'd like to hear more out of you. I would also like to know why you defend toad in the first half of your post and then FOS on ciry for defending you. You said the only time you are defended is when scum try to buddy up to you... Seems very contradictory to me.
I'm not really seeing anything suspicious out of anyone else yet, need to hear from the inactives.
We do have to lynch someone today so please keep posting people!
I hope that is the right quote, I thought we were wasting our time going after toad for saying we all should post, I think the first 2 pages were just "post more guys" and not enough things of value.
The fos on ciry was more of an afterthought he defended me which pretty much stalled out my first vote because then everyone knew what the vote entailed (though it was pretty obvious). I lost a werewolf game recently were a goddamn scum befriended me and lost because of it so maybe it has been clouding my judgement on games since.
I am not going to lie, it was a fluff post. It give some interesting info though. Chocolate responded to it second posting about how it was fluff, seems like an easy bandwagon to get on. If I get lynched today my money is on him being scum right now.
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On October 31 2011 08:07 hyshes wrote:
You tend to say very little with very much words.. That seems to me like you are overcompensating for the lack of conclusive arguments.
just saw this and I agree, I am used to playing IRL and tend to ramble there, it does not translate well to the forums though and I will work on shorter concise points.
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On November 01 2011 04:30 risk.nuke wrote:Everyone respond to everything somebody throws against you. Even small stuff. I know it can be done to get by for a while ignoring minor suspicions because "oh look, they dropped me" or "it doesn't seem important". However for everything you do respond to it gives town more information. There are a few more hours left so if you can ditch in a few last efforts. Show nested quote +On November 01 2011 02:03 Toadesstern wrote:
I still don't like what risk is doing here: nothing. If he's not going to make a vote and is going to get modkilled that's fine with me (not really but I can't do a thing about it), however if he showes up sometimes soon and does NOT get modkilled I want a pretty damn good explanation for what he's doing.
Scrammen seems to be a bit strange while I did not think about Drem until now, will take another read. Toad, your play is inconsistant and all over the place. I can't tell if you're scum or just new. It's as if you're going for a town powerposition but you don't really know how to achieve it. I really don't like you're jumping on skrammen rather then defending yourself. ##Vote Toadesstern
me jumping on skrammen? I want to get a lynch, that's it and yeah skrammen sounds like a legit vote. I would have liked to get you lynched first but I'm ok with it the way it is, too^.
Secondly I think I defended myself. I got a bunch fos from guys earlier and those backed off. You could just be a mafia thinking it's easy to get town to lynch toad because you're not voting for skrammen.
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United Kingdom1044 Posts
due to timezone difficulties I can't be on until the lynch :/ going to leave my vote on skrammen atm, zanfada still comes across as dodgy to me but skrammen looks like a better lynch for the moment. see you all tomorow and sorry I can't be on until the deadline!
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oh and btw, since I was some sc while making my last post I only looked at what risk posted and not what he actually quoted.
I asked you like 3 times to give an explanation for your aabstinence and you answer that with a text saying "guys, we need to anwser everything, no matter how small or insignificant (to you) the question might be" and yet you haven't come out and did what I wanted you to do:
Explain why you are not posting and tell us about your thoughts.
I'm not having a problem with your vote here, but go ahead and explain it. You just said it' weird, while leaving out what I asked you to do 3 times. You're telling me that you don't like me to "jump" on skrammen without defending myself. Just go ahead and do the first step and I will gladly answer everything you want to know about me, my thoughts or my posts.
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On November 01 2011 04:05 Skrammen wrote:@Chocolate + Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler +Not once did you FoS on me, yet you preffered to vote me instead of zanfa. You also FoS'd Ciry but claim you didnt. You seem to be a bit everywhere, throwing suspicions left and right. To me, it appears like you are trying to be a bit of an instigator while saying very little of substance. You've posted nearly as little as I have done, and you say you vote me because of lack of activity?
##Vote Chocolate
It's day one, there are no leads except those that we can get from goading others. Nobody did anything to garner enough suspicion to warrant a vote in my opinion so I voted you, hoping that it would cause you to say something and it worked. I will probably take back my vote but I may not as I still need to digest what you said.
Also, about this thing about me "fos'ing ciry"
Perhaps this is some weird way that I communicate that no one else uses, but Needlessly aggressive, fos on ciryandor for defending him to me seems like I was noting what zanfa said about ciry, since I also described zanfa about being needlessly aggressive.Hopefully that clears things up.
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Voting closes at 10pm EDT tonight right? EDT being Eastern USA? Just making sure as I don't want to make any mistakes.
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@Chocolate
EDT is Eastern Daylight Time, the timezone for the Eastern USA during daylight savings time. Current EDT is 5:02 PM
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Ok thanks just making sure. Mods you don't need to answer.
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