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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
October 11 2011 14:15 GMT
#1561
Wherebugsgo is playing exacly how a scum would play in his situation. Trying everything to get just the smallest chanse to survive another day. I would just like to throw in aswell that there might not be another chance. If the last scum is a sniper we lose if we misslynch.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
October 11 2011 14:15 GMT
#1562
It was a joke.

Also, you've got to be kidding me. There is no concept of "confirmation" when it comes to vanilla townies.

You base this on who you think is most likely to be scum. I'mtelling you right now what the solution to the game is. You lynch nisani/risk and we win.

One of these players is town and he needs to identify himself as such. Otherwise, if you guys decide to lynch me today you're going to have to do the tough decision making tomorrow.

Either you believe I'm town and you take the easy path of lynching nisani and risk, or you believe I'm scum and shoot yourself in the foot by lynching another townie and then flip a coin between nisani and risk tomorrow. Your decision. I realize this is a pressured decision but I've given you everything I can. All the logs, all my information, everything I can as best as I can to prove to the best of my ability that I am town. There is literally nothing left I can do.

I'm telling you now that you'regoing to have to choose between Nisani and risk either today or tomorrow. If you do it today it isn't actually a choice, you can lynch both. If you choose me today the entire town effort has been wasted for us to get a 50/50 shot at winning.

wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
October 11 2011 14:17 GMT
#1563
Actually lol I didn't even think about that, if risk/Nisani is the scum sniper by lynching me it's an auto loss
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
October 11 2011 14:30 GMT
#1564
Bugs you die today. With you throwing out stuff it's easy to lose track and foget that you ARE scum, there is 0.001% chance you are town. Personally I like those odds of winning. You squirm, kick and turn your cloak but I am not going to allow anything else to happen.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
October 11 2011 14:32 GMT
#1565
Other than the fact that I've been wrong, why am I scum?
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
October 11 2011 14:35 GMT
#1566
You're connected with dropbear & SS was sure you were scum.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
October 11 2011 14:40 GMT
#1567
SS was vanilla town, how the hell could he be infallible?

You guys take the word of confirmed townies like it's the gospel.

Also, I've already addressed the DB issue. If I were scum I would not have a three page log with him in PMs.

You could make conflicting arguments on the basis of which townies thought what. Erandorr thought I was town. Mig gave me and super 75% chance to be town (and Mig was only wrong about GM/xt) Curu thought DB and jcarl were town just like I did, and in fact, the basis of my argument for them both being town was the confirmation of information and reasoning I received from Curu.

I've just been working with what I've got and have been given.

risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
October 11 2011 14:58 GMT
#1568
You could perfectly well have manufactured those logs. It is not the least bit as difficult as you make it out to be. Seeing how you're ALWAYS around it's no question to the dedication you're putting into this game so I don't doubt for a second you faked those logs.
And yet despite beeing the most dedicated player to this game you haven't managed to find a single scum? All your accusations have been complete bogus. But you don't question those for a second meanwhile similar accusation against yourself you claim are no true evidence?
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
October 11 2011 15:02 GMT
#1569
Correction: similar accusations against you AND dropbear was no true evidence. Infact dropbear has been the only lynch you have strongly opposed. What does that say?
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
October 11 2011 16:49 GMT
#1570
False, I opposed Incog's lynch until there was no other choice, I opposed lynching xt until that last minute derp (rather large part my own fault)

As for finding scum, tbh no one else really did either. Mig is the only person I can say this game who had his shit together as town. He was right almost every single time.

We found jcarl thanks to Erandorr's DT check and we found DB after Sevryn flipped town.
Sevryn/DB was a coinflip and we just chose the wrong one first.

wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
October 11 2011 16:50 GMT
#1571
Also wtf there was never a serious lynch effort for DB. Stop making up shit
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
October 12 2011 01:51 GMT
#1572
ONGOING GAMES SHOULD NEVER GO YELLOW
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
October 12 2011 02:40 GMT
#1573
My internet connection has been funky so I haven't been able to post today. Here are the chat logs as requested.

+ Show Spoiler [DropBear] +
--- Log opened Fri Sep 30 06:37:36 2011
06:37:36-!- Irssi: Starting query in QuakeNet with DropBear
06:38:06<Nisani201> ok so i'm wondering what your reads are
06:38:18<Nisani201> you haven't posted much in thread
06:38:26<Nisani201> mok, maybe you're rightainly wbg and notchezinu
06:38:28<DropBear> both stupid lynches imo
06:38:35<Nisani201> interesting
06:40:21<DropBear> your making a mistake on wbg
06:40:31<DropBear> he is playing poorly but is not scum
06:40:45<Nisani201> You don't think that it aligns with his scum meta?
06:40:48<DropBear> scum meta but town meta too
06:40:50<DropBear> null tell
06:41:01<Nisani201> what about nc?
06:41:07<DropBear> let him go, chezinu is like that
06:41:13<Nisani201> lol ok
06:41:56<DropBear> maybe we can go for his lynch later
06:41:57<Nisani201> so who is scummy?
06:42:04<DropBear> iunno, probably sev
06:42:05<Nisani201> ok thanks i g2g
06:42:08<Nisani201> bye
--- Log closed Fri Sep 30 06:47:09 2011
--- Log opened Fri Sep 30 07:19:53 2011
07:19:53-!- DropBear [webchat@CPE-121-221-81-39.lns7.wel.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout]
--- Log closed Fri Sep 30 07:25:09 2011
--- Log opened Mon Oct 03 05:11:07 2011
05:11:07-!- Irssi: Starting query in QuakeNet with DropBear
05:11:07<Nisani201> are you there?
05:12:02-!- DropBear [webchat@CPE-124-178-143-7.lns3.pie.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Quit: Page closed]
--- Log closed Mon Oct 03 05:17:13 2011
--- Log opened Wed Oct 05 13:05:09 2011
13:05:09-!- Irssi: Starting query in QuakeNet with DropBear
13:05:09<Nisani201> you there?
--- Log closed Wed Oct 05 13:10:17 2011
--- Log opened Wed Oct 05 13:15:48 2011
13:15:48<DropBear> yeah
13:15:58<DropBear> are you still here?
13:19:33<Nisani201> hi
13:19:35<Nisani201> so...
13:19:46<Nisani201> what are your reads now
13:19:50<Nisani201> with xfftc dead
13:21:39<DropBear> lol i got no clue
13:22:13<Nisani201> how the fuck did that even happen rofl
13:22:27<Nisani201> ok anyways
13:22:28<Nisani201> gimme your reads
13:22:59<DropBear> just sevyrn
13:23:19<DropBear> he needs to get lynched badly
13:25:28<Nisani201> ok and who else?
13:26:16<DropBear> i dunno, i think we should lynch sev and then go from there
13:26:39<Nisani201> ummmmm ok
13:26:42<Nisani201> you've been lurking all game
13:26:54<Nisani201> doing nothing but tunelling sev
13:27:00<Nisani201> and you have nothing else to say? lol wtf
13:27:02<DropBear> you haven't done anything either
13:27:05<DropBear> stfu
13:27:22<Nisani201> what about erandorr
13:28:39<DropBear> i think he's fine because he's unmute
13:30:02<Nisani201> and bugs?
13:30:33<DropBear> he gave me this spreadsheet of his reads
13:30:53<Nisani201> lol i got it too
13:31:05<DropBear> i don't think scum would put in that kind of effort
13:31:17<DropBear> so anyways i think you shoudl vote for sev
13:31:22<Nisani201> lol why?
13:33:49<DropBear> he has been lurking this whole fucking time
13:35:14<DropBear> he hasn't contributed really anything
13:35:45<DropBear> no reason to let him live
13:35:46<Nisani201> well i don't have much else to vote for... jcarl is pretty scummy
13:35:47<DropBear> jcarl? lol don't kill him
13:37:14<DropBear> he's done nothing wrong
13:38:16<DropBear> yes
13:39:46<Nisani201> ok
13:42:49<Nisani201> i think i will vote for sev
13:43:03<Nisani201> only because i feel my options are limited
13:43:09<Nisani201> thank you for sharing
13:49:23<DropBear> np
--- Log closed Wed Oct 05 13:59:17 2011
--- Log opened Sun Oct 09 02:03:18 2011
02:03:18-!- Irssi: Starting query in QuakeNet with DropBear
02:03:18<DropBear> hi
02:03:28<DropBear> are you still gonna vote sev?
02:03:33<DropBear> i really think you should
02:04:06<Nisani201> sigh
02:04:11<Nisani201> probably
--- Log closed Sun Oct 09 02:11:23 2011


+ Show Spoiler [jcarl] +
--- Log opened Fri Sep 30 04:03:32 2011
04:03:32-!- Irssi: Starting query in QuakeNet with jcarlsoniv
04:03:32<jcarlsoniv> oh hai
04:04:55<Nisani201> hi
04:05:10<Nisani201> what do you want
04:05:16<jcarlsoniv> i'm just bored as fuck
04:05:23<Nisani201> ...
04:05:26<jcarlsoniv> rofl
04:05:31<jcarlsoniv> what do you think of chez?
04:05:42<Nisani201> lol i have no idea
04:05:48<Nisani201> there's no point in trying to analyse him
04:05:53<Nisani201> especially since he probably hasn't read his role pm
04:05:53<jcarlsoniv> he hates me
04:06:42<jcarlsoniv> for reasons unbeknownst to me
04:08:37<jcarlsoniv> i know
04:08:39<jcarlsoniv> he PMd me
04:08:46<jcarlsoniv> pretty much the same thing he said in the thread
04:08:49<jcarlsoniv> "WHY YOU ENEMY"
04:09:02<Nisani201> lol
04:09:11<jcarlsoniv> so
04:09:15<jcarlsoniv> what do you think of wbg
04:09:31<Nisani201> he seems scummy
04:09:50<Nisani201> but whatever
04:10:08<jcarlsoniv> *shrug*
--- Log closed Fri Sep 30 04:16:08 2011
--- Log opened Fri Sep 30 04:57:15 2011
05:01:13<Nisani201> also whatabout curu?
05:01:20<jcarlsoniv> i dunno he seems fine
05:01:43<jcarlsoniv> i gtg
--- Log closed Fri Sep 30 05:07:09 2011
--- Log opened Tue Oct 04 11:31:10 2011
11:31:10-!- Irssi: Starting query in QuakeNet with jcarlsoniv
11:31:16<Nisani201> so what do you think of the curu modkill
11:31:24<jcarlsoniv> sucks
11:31:41<jcarlsoniv> just gotta deal with it
11:31:52<Nisani201> thanks
11:32:00<jcarlsoniv> hold on i'm talking to wbg
11:32:09<Nisani201> lol
11:38:48<Nisani201> me too
11:38:54<Nisani201> does he want you to contribute to his spreadsheet?
11:39:02<jcarlsoniv> yes it was our idea lol
11:39:35<Nisani201> oh ok
--- Log closed Tue Oct 04 11:46:16 2011
--- Log opened Tue Oct 04 11:57:36 2011
11:57:36-!- Irssi: Starting query in QuakeNet with jcarlsoniv
11:57:36<jcarlsoniv> lol sinani
12:00:11<jcarlsoniv> herp derp voting dropbear
12:00:37<jcarlsoniv> pretty stupid amirite
12:00:41<Nisani201> uhhh yeah i guess so
12:00:47<Nisani201> he's been at this all game though, so not really a surprise at all
12:00:50<jcarlsoniv> he's like
12:00:51<jcarlsoniv> ZONG A CONNECTION
12:01:03<jcarlsoniv> also the curu modkill was annoying as fuck
12:02:03<Nisani201> well if kurumi thinks that the modkill was too harsh
12:02:09<Nisani201> scum might lose kp
12:02:26<Nisani201> would be awesome
12:02:27<jcarlsoniv> ?
12:02:36<jcarlsoniv> oh i gotcha
12:02:37<jcarlsoniv> kinda
--- Log closed Tue Oct 04 12:08:16 2011
--- Log opened Tue Oct 04 12:51:09 2011
12:51:09-!- jcarlsoniv [webchat@198.7.239.20] has quit [Ping timeout]
--- Log closed Tue Oct 04 12:56:16 2011


This vote is tough and I'm not entirely sure who to choose. However I am leaning WBG since I think that SS knows what he's saying.
Enjoy your day.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
October 12 2011 03:19 GMT
#1574
risk.nuke scum, calling it now
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
October 12 2011 04:15 GMT
#1575
ok

##Unvote
##Vote: wherebugsgo
Enjoy your day.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
October 12 2011 04:37 GMT
#1576
if anyone has anything more to ask of me, just PM me or post in the thread. I've said all I can on my own and I can't really do anything on my own (clearly) to convince any of you that this lynch is wrong.

I blame no one but myself for this.
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
October 12 2011 09:30 GMT
#1577
On October 12 2011 12:19 wherebugsgo wrote:
risk.nuke scum, calling it now

:3
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
October 12 2011 13:44 GMT
#1578
I don´t expect there to be much more to say today. Either WBG flips Scum and the game is over, or tomorrow is going to be tough.
:3
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
October 12 2011 16:48 GMT
#1579
You're gonna have it rough Forumite, sorry to say.

Also my call is completely useless. It's still pretty much a coinflip, since Nisani disappeared for a very long time when he was asked for those logs. Granted, they seem genuine.

Good luck lol
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
October 12 2011 18:54 GMT
#1580
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