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Curu

Canada2817 Posts

October 01 2011 23:05 GMT

#799

Also Incognito is probably scum.

Curu

Canada2817 Posts

October 02 2011 00:36 GMT

#819

The thing I find fishy is Incog asked all these people to PM Erandorr but if he had PMed Erandorr himself it would have been apparently he is mute.

Curu

Canada2817 Posts

October 02 2011 00:38 GMT

#820

Apparent*

And since Incog has claimed he is doing all his work in PMs and not the thread, I highly doubt he wouldn't have tried to talk to his lynch candidate.

Curu

Canada2817 Posts

October 02 2011 00:48 GMT

#822

I didn't get anything about Erandorr btw, I got one asking about jcarl. Probably because he knew whatever happened I would not get off Palmar, idk.

Curu

Canada2817 Posts

October 02 2011 01:08 GMT

#827

I also don't know why he wouldn't come talk to me when I am confirmed Town. I am pretty sure the two people that have come forward to talk to me after the Palmar fiasco are Town.

Curu

Canada2817 Posts

October 02 2011 05:16 GMT

#883

lol is this serious?

Well here's my Skype log with Palmar:

[9/28/2011 11:09:15 AM] Charles Suo: hi palmar
[9/28/2011 12:43:29 PM] Charles Suo: hi palmar
[9/28/2011 12:43:45 PM] Palmar: sup
[9/28/2011 12:43:50 PM] Palmar: you're playing xlv?
[9/28/2011 12:44:05 PM] Charles Suo: yes
[9/28/2011 12:44:10 PM] Charles Suo: are you scum
[9/28/2011 12:44:16 PM] Palmar: I may or may not have accidentally told mig my role
[9/28/2011 12:44:24 PM] Palmar: because I didn't know he was playing
[9/28/2011 12:44:31 PM] Charles Suo: oh
[9/28/2011 12:44:38 PM] Charles Suo: lol
[9/28/2011 12:44:45 PM] Palmar: derp
[9/28/2011 12:44:48 PM] Charles Suo: indeed
[9/28/2011 12:44:54 PM] Palmar: you scum?
[9/28/2011 12:44:58 PM] Palmar: now you know I have a role!
[9/28/2011 12:45:10 PM] Charles Suo: i am town curu
[9/28/2011 12:45:13 PM] Charles Suo: which means you must be scum palmar
[9/28/2011 12:45:15 PM] Palmar: what kinda town?
[9/28/2011 12:45:23 PM] Charles Suo: the best kinda town
[9/28/2011 12:45:30 PM] Palmar: the scum-town?
[9/28/2011 12:45:50 PM] Palmar: I find it very scummy you're not willing to immediately claim to me
[9/28/2011 12:46:01 PM] Charles Suo: maybe I'm a mute breaking the rules
[9/28/2011 12:47:59 PM] Charles Suo: are you going to win LOTR
[9/28/2011 12:48:49 PM] Palmar: I don't think I am
[9/28/2011 12:48:53 PM] Palmar: isn't chaoser killing me?
[9/28/2011 12:49:20 PM] Charles Suo: maybe
[9/28/2011 12:49:27 PM] Charles Suo: but then as long as mafia doesnt hit you too youre aight!
[9/28/2011 12:49:31 PM] Palmar: yeah
[9/28/2011 12:49:35 PM] Palmar: are they gonna?
[9/28/2011 12:49:39 PM] Charles Suo: i dunno
[9/28/2011 12:49:42 PM] Palmar: ok
[9/28/2011 12:49:45 PM] Charles Suo: they always send their night actions in 10 mins before deadline
[9/28/2011 12:49:47 PM] Palmar: or some retard town checks me
[9/28/2011 12:49:53 PM] Palmar: also, this town

[REMOVED BECAUSE DISCUSSION OF LOTR MAFIA]

[9/28/2011 9:50:13 PM] Charles Suo: yay Palmar
[9/28/2011 9:50:15 PM] Charles Suo: you win!
[9/29/2011 6:22:30 AM] Charles Suo: are you scum
[9/29/2011 6:22:42 AM] Palmar: no
[9/29/2011 6:22:46 AM] Palmar: I think you are though
[9/29/2011 6:22:51 AM] Charles Suo: well im pretty obvious town
[9/29/2011 6:22:59 AM] Palmar: ...
[9/29/2011 6:23:24 AM] Charles Suo: wha
[9/29/2011 6:23:25 AM] Charles Suo: t
[9/29/2011 6:23:43 AM] Palmar: bitch,
[9/29/2011 6:24:21 AM] Charles Suo: incoming text wall
[9/29/2011 6:24:24 AM] Palmar: Look at your play in AA, now look back to this game, then look back to your play in AA, then back to this game. This game your play sucks, but if you started posting like non-scum you could look like you're town
[9/29/2011 6:24:31 AM] Charles Suo: lolol
[9/29/2011 6:24:33 AM] Palmar: but you're scum
[9/29/2011 6:24:42 AM] Charles Suo: AA was my first ever Mafia game as town bro
[9/29/2011 6:24:47 AM] Charles Suo: why you bringing that up
[9/29/2011 6:25:06 AM] Palmar: because that's the game I most distinctly remember you being town in
[9/29/2011 6:25:19 AM] Palmar: all other games I've been in with you I've been scum, so I haven't been reading the thread.
[9/29/2011 6:25:21 AM] Charles Suo: prolly cuz i spammed 200 posts in day 1
[9/29/2011 6:25:36 AM] Palmar: I don't actually read games when I'm scum
[9/29/2011 6:26:21 AM] Charles Suo: thats funny you werent reading this one either
[9/29/2011 6:26:26 AM] Charles Suo: although tbh neither have i
[9/29/2011 6:26:27 AM] Charles Suo: huh
[9/29/2011 6:26:34 AM] Charles Suo: but im town and you're probably not
[9/29/2011 6:28:44 AM] Charles Suo: is sinani mafia too
[9/29/2011 6:28:51 AM] Charles Suo: I really really wanna lynch him
[9/29/2011 6:28:51 AM] Charles Suo: again
[9/29/2011 6:29:53 AM] Palmar: yeah I'm not talking to you
[9/29/2011 6:29:56 AM] Palmar: you're scum.
[9/29/2011 6:30:08 AM] Palmar: Just noticed the order of your posts
[9/29/2011 6:30:10 AM] Palmar: against me
[9/29/2011 6:30:17 AM] Charles Suo: hm?
[9/29/2011 6:30:45 AM] Charles Suo: you have never incorrectly read me before except on purpose when you're scum
[9/29/2011 6:30:47 AM] Charles Suo: you must be scum
[9/29/2011 6:45:37 AM] Charles Suo: why are you so scummy
[9/29/2011 6:57:24 AM] Charles Suo: so palmero
[9/29/2011 6:57:27 AM] Charles Suo: was your role pm blue
[9/29/2011 6:57:43 AM] Palmar: yep
[9/29/2011 6:57:57 AM] Palmar: actually no
[9/29/2011 6:57:59 AM] Palmar: it had no color
[9/29/2011 6:58:05 AM] Palmar: it just said "BLU

Curu

Canada2817 Posts

October 02 2011 05:16 GMT

#884

Also think to yourself why would Kurumi threaten to modkill me if we were both scum?

Curu

Canada2817 Posts

October 02 2011 05:31 GMT

#886

The reason I didn't want to talk to WBG is because he's either playing like an idiot or scum. Why would I give my townreads to someone I don't want to discuss the game with.

Curu

Canada2817 Posts

October 02 2011 05:44 GMT

#888

And Erandorr and Mig can vouch for me being on my scumteam in XLIV. I raged hard at chaoser and Erandorr for doing nothing but busing teammates, and that was with 6 scum. Busing day 1 in a 4 scum game is even more retarded and completely not how I believe in playing as Mafia.

Incog and Kenpachi are almost definitely scum together. First off the only times that Kenpachi has ever posted a real case on anyone was when he was scum busing a teammate that was going to get lynched anyways. Kenpachi useless all of day 1 then comes in day 2 with a real, effort-driven analysis? lol. Me and Mig (mostly Mig) literally went through every Kenpachi game and this has always been the case.

Also:

On October 01 2011 10:08 Kenpachi wrote:
checking the time of this PM, it was 6:29 but i cant prove that unless i take a picture of my inbox but i wont do that cause thats cheating.

Why would a Townie ever give that much thought to PM times? That shouldn't even cross your mind when posting. So why does Kenpachi go so far to try to prove the PM time? Because he didn't actually receive that PM.

Curu

Canada2817 Posts

October 02 2011 15:11 GMT

#913

Yeah Kenpachi my apologies. Actually I formed the case in my head while I was at Nuite Blanche and I had thought the wording in your post was "if you think I'm lying the PM time is xxx" but when I got home and read what the post really was your wording was actually much different. I posted about it anyways but Kenpachi's reaction looks pretty Town.

I agree that Sevyrn looks pretty damn bad. He isn't just bandwagon hopper Sevyrn either, he carefully avoided the Palmar issue, didn't give any opinion on Incog but jumped super fast onto my retarded wagon.

Curu

Canada2817 Posts

October 02 2011 15:15 GMT

#914

And finally if anyone thinks I am manipulating Mig, anyone I have talked to knows what respect I hold for Mig as a Town player. I am pretty sure Mig would catch me fast if I talked to him nonstop in Skype like I am now. Actually I requested scum in XLIV but asked for Mig to be placed on my team too cause I was sure he would catch me as Town.

Curu

Canada2817 Posts

October 02 2011 18:14 GMT

#923

Alright well here's something interesting:

Incognito and NotChezinu both PMed me asking me how I felt about lynching jcarl. NotChez actually delayed posting his case on me until I told him point blank I would rather lynch Incognito than jcarlson. I am under the suspicion that if I were to express interest in lynching jcarl rather than Incog today the case would have been made by both of them against jcarl not me. If NotChez thought I was Mafia he had no reason to delay posting the case on me (all the info he presents was already out in the open for like 8 hours before I told him I am voting Incognito), instead he waited until after I told him I am going for Incognito not jcarl.

NotChez bases a huge part around how I went from "I'm not sure on Incog" to "let's lynch Incog" conveniently leaving out the PMs I sent him explaining:

He is now trying to convince Mig that I am Mafia trying to manipulate Mig because Mig won't release our convos to him. I honestly can't see a Town Incog doing this.

Plus Kenpachi actually did an analysis on him. A real one. The only time I have ever seen Kenpachi do analysis is when he is scum busing another scum.

Original Message From NotChezinu:
why?

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Original Message From Curu:
I think Incognito would be my choice today.

There's also other reasons I became more sold on Incognito but I'm not releasing that information.

Curu

Canada2817 Posts

October 03 2011 04:41 GMT

#959

Reading some logs I have it seemed like Incognito didn't even know what the argument that NotChez/WBG thought me scummy for. He had to ask WBG and have WBG explain it to him then immediately started calling for a Vig shot on me afterwards. Mig brought up that it actually looked like Incognito was the somewhat clueless Townie getting roped in by WBG and NotChezinu but the fact that Incog kept calling for a Vig that he knew was not mute (thus being the type that would lose their second bullet and become mute if they hit a Townie) to shoot two Townies on stupid reasoning, I didn't want to consider his Town play could derp like that. I doubt both WBG and NotChez can be scum and I think WBG looks more Townie overall although he has been pushing some pretty derp lynches and reads.

NotChez is GMarshal and I'd say this looks like his scumplay from Ace's Some Mafia Game. Tunneling one Townie each day with a terrible case while not commenting on anything else going on in the game really. That he stated he was going to try to softclaim Ver to get me lynched is pretty stupid. The discussion of Incog/NotChez/WBG was a couple of hours of them intricately scheming the best way to get me lynched; almost none of it (besides the start where Incog asked why I was the target) was actually discussing me being scummy. Looking at GM's play as Town in Cosmic Horror he actually pushed his scumreads hard rather than the half-assed stupid effort he has given in both this game and in SMG.

Curu

Canada2817 Posts

October 03 2011 23:09 GMT

#989

More likely there isn't actually a Medic left. I was pretty sure Mig was dying after prplhz flipped. Sigh.

I would definitely like to lynch NotChez today.

Curu

Canada2817 Posts

October 03 2011 23:35 GMT

#993

You seem to know an awful lot about the RBer Forumite. That wasn't how I interpreted it to work nor what is intuitive. Standard RBer would mean after it is used night 1 it can be used again night 2 (or if used day 1 it can be used again day 2, etc), which is how I interpreted it to work.

Is Forumite's post the way the RBer works?

Curu

Canada2817 Posts

October 03 2011 23:44 GMT

#996

Alright I just got RBed. So what Forumite was saying is indeed true.

Curu

Canada2817 Posts

October 03 2011 23:45 GMT

#997

Which also coincides with when NotChez decided to come post and right after I PMed him.

I am definitely down to kill NotChez now.

Curu

Canada2817 Posts

October 03 2011 23:49 GMT

#1000

No I won't take that deal because I know I am Town. Even if I said I took that deal I highly doubt I would get lynched after anyways so it is a moot point. Do I know you're scum? No. Do I think you have the highest chance to flip scum? Yes indeed.

That you haven't commented on anything else and continue to push this retarded wagon (Curu bused the arguably best Mafia role day 1, he must be Mafia!) rather than comment anything else makes me feel pretty damn good about you though.