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On September 18 2011 05:39 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2011 05:35 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Drazerk never said that you're scum because you have posting restrictions. You aren't making any sense and now that you're getting "pressure" to scumhunt you're showing the worst case of scumhunting I've ever seen.
"TranceStorm is scum TranceStorm is scum Trancestorm is scum" is not scumhunting. Neither are OMGUS votes based on bad misunderstandings of what another player is saying.
You said your first vote/reasons were bad. Yet in that same post you say "
I already found you scum, look at TranceStorm." That's some big confidence for a "bad" vote. Cut the bullshit. It's obvious that what ever you are, you're not here to help us.
Honestly on Day 1 I'd be more content lynching a pretty sure SK/Third Party player than some gut scum read that is probably wrong and end up killing some VT or power role that is actually helping us. As far as your posting all you are is an annoyance and a distraction. Are you fucking kidding? Drazerk didn't say anything about me being scum other than "leaning" scum on me. In the same post he says there are "definitely posting restrictions" when participating in a conversation about me talking about the ring in posts I make. Drazerk is scummy. I also think TranceStorm is scummy, I don't think my vote reason was bad, I just didn't explicitly state my vote reason. I wanted it to appear "bad" to promote discussion (which I did, no?)
You specifically said this.
THIS GUY IS SCUM.
He thinks, "wherebugsgo has a posting restriction"=he must be scum.
Hey genius, guess what, I'm not scum just because I have a posting restriction.
Drazerk never even once implied that you having a posting restriction makes you scum. So no, I'm not kidding my point still stands. He never said or implied it was scummy. Sorry. This entire quoted attack on Drazerk is based on a bad misunderstanding.
You didn't say anything about TranceStorm being scum other than he was scum and that was it. It wasn't until way later that you explained your vote (giving us all of one sentence of justification). If that's your basis for voting Drazerk, perhaps you should vote for yourself.
Oh I see you're playing bad on purpose to "promote discussion" i.e draw all attention to yourself and make the whole day 1 discussion worthless. Very good town play, bravo.
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but your vote reason on me is even worse than mine.
I figured people would pick up on my bad vote
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On September 18 2011 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
My vote is on prplhz, at least now. Let's c if anything new comes up before day ends.
##vote prplhz
Contributed nothing this game so far now just announcing a sheep vote. Explain why. Why is prplhz more convincing than other candidates? What do you think about the gollum/ring discussion?
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On September 18 2011 05:49 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2011 05:39 wherebugsgo wrote:On September 18 2011 05:35 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Drazerk never said that you're scum because you have posting restrictions. You aren't making any sense and now that you're getting "pressure" to scumhunt you're showing the worst case of scumhunting I've ever seen.
"TranceStorm is scum TranceStorm is scum Trancestorm is scum" is not scumhunting. Neither are OMGUS votes based on bad misunderstandings of what another player is saying.
You said your first vote/reasons were bad. Yet in that same post you say "
I already found you scum, look at TranceStorm." That's some big confidence for a "bad" vote. Cut the bullshit. It's obvious that what ever you are, you're not here to help us.
Honestly on Day 1 I'd be more content lynching a pretty sure SK/Third Party player than some gut scum read that is probably wrong and end up killing some VT or power role that is actually helping us. As far as your posting all you are is an annoyance and a distraction. Are you fucking kidding? Drazerk didn't say anything about me being scum other than "leaning" scum on me. In the same post he says there are "definitely posting restrictions" when participating in a conversation about me talking about the ring in posts I make. Drazerk is scummy. I also think TranceStorm is scummy, I don't think my vote reason was bad, I just didn't explicitly state my vote reason. I wanted it to appear "bad" to promote discussion (which I did, no?) You specifically said this. Show nested quote +THIS GUY IS SCUM.
He thinks, "wherebugsgo has a posting restriction"=he must be scum.
Hey genius, guess what, I'm not scum just because I have a posting restriction. Drazerk never even once implied that you having a posting restriction makes you scum. So no, I'm not kidding my point still stands. He never said or implied it was scummy. Sorry. This entire quoted attack on Drazerk is based on a bad misunderstanding. You didn't say anything about TranceStorm being scum other than he was scum and that was it. It wasn't until way later that you explained your vote (giving us all of one sentence of justification). If that's your basis for voting Drazerk, perhaps you should vote for yourself. Oh I see you're playing bad on purpose to "promote discussion" i.e draw all attention to yourself and make the whole day 1 discussion worthless. Very good town play, bravo.
Why don't you tell me Drazerk's motivation for voting for me, then?
Why did he mention the posting restrictions in the context of his vote on me?
Why did he sheep Chaoser?
You seem to know all about Drazerk. Go ahead and tell us.
And yes, I did say that my vote reason was bad, because that was the way I intended it to appear. I have reasons for voting him, I don't have to state everything and put it out on a silver platter for you. This is the same reason why I'm not going to tell anyone why I want the ring. If you guys decide to give me the ring, fine, if you don't, you're just hurting yourselves.
Of course, I might actually have to put everything on a nice silver platter, since most townies are usually extraordinarily thick and incapable of reasoning.
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I'm extraordinarily thick and incapable of reasoning, so please that silver platter would be excellent.
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WBG, I'm sorry but "I'm Gollum, give me the ring; I won't tell you why but by not complying you are only hurting yourself" is a hilariously unconvincing proposition, given LOTR lore and our own win con. You are actively working against your alleged win con by not being forthcoming regarding your objectives, the benefits for town and by being so antagonistic about this.
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On September 18 2011 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
My vote is on prplhz, at least now. Let's c if anything new comes up before day ends.
##vote prplhz
wow what a 100th post i'm so blown away i want to vote for me too now
i don't like drh or heist or wiggles but there are tons of people here who are worthy of scrutiny
On September 18 2011 04:46 DoctorHelvetica wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
It's generally agreed that a 50/50 bandwagon is pretty much the ideal situation for mafia. Actually when the town all agrees on one player that is the scummiest and tunnels them leaving no wiggle room, that is the worst scenario for mafia because assuming town was correct they have no way out of it.
Vain is definitely being antagonistic and the fact that he slipped under the radar for such bad posting isn't a good sign.
People seem to be complaining that we're still talking about Gollum or the ring or whatever but most of the discussion on the last few pages is about a lynch so stop complaining. I'm keeping my vote on WBG until I make up my mind. Vain, Drazerk, prplhz are all people I'm looking at.
stuff like this, it's the wiggle room we want 'cause that's when people really have to talk about stuff, even if we're lynching a scum i think 51/49 is better than 100/0 and drh should probably think so too unless he's a crazyman
i'm fine with wbg and cyriandor and syllogism, good questions and wbg is not worth the attention he's getting right now, let him troll around and then maybe a vig can shoot him at some point or whatever
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On September 18 2011 05:52 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2011 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
My vote is on prplhz, at least now. Let's c if anything new comes up before day ends.
##vote prplhz Contributed nothing this game so far now just announcing a sheep vote. Explain why. Why is prplhz more convincing than other candidates? What do you think about the gollum/ring discussion?
I have already told it earlier, if you cared to read. Here.
On September 17 2011 21:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2011 20:57 prplhz wrote:
So if the ring bearer is lynched the ring goes to a random person who voted for him. This will encourage all scum to all vote for the person who is most likely to get lynched, so scum will have a bigger chance of procuring the ring. This makes it twice as important to have at least two candidates with as many votes as each other. This doesn't make any sense. Scum could possibly have vote altering powers. Also the more townies vote someone, the more likely it is to get the Ring to town.
At this point i find nothing more suspicious than this.
And for the gollum thing. I don't think he would be worth lynching, yet.
For the Ring discussion i have stated my opinion. Feel free to filter and check out what my opinion is.
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On September 18 2011 00:20 Radfield wrote:We're missing plenty of players right now, why are you so focused on Jeejee?
Just wondering, as I've seen in recent games he's been in he's quite active when he's present. The same could be said of some other players as well.
On September 18 2011 00:36 Radfield wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2011 23:30 Jackal58 wrote:On September 17 2011 23:16 syllogism wrote:On September 17 2011 23:04 Pyo wrote:On September 17 2011 14:48 Jackal58 wrote:On September 17 2011 14:42 GreYMisT wrote:On September 17 2011 14:39 Jackal58 wrote:On September 17 2011 14:38 wherebugsgo wrote:On September 17 2011 14:35 Jackal58 wrote:On September 17 2011 14:30 wherebugsgo wrote:
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none as much as me. Sauron? Is that you? Yes. I am Sauron. And what compelling reason do we have to allow Sauron to survive? Promises of power and land I would imagine. pfffff I already have 10 acres with electricity. Does anyone else find this whole exchange to be really suspicious? Jackal is currently on top of my suspicion list, mostly due to being around last night while not saying anything useful at all. However, I don't think the above looks like a conversation between scum buddies. WBG's play makes very little sense regardless of his alignment, though a third party makes most sense. What would you like me to say? The discussion regarding the ring and its mechanics is fucking useless speculation? There I said it. The only thing I saw comment worthy was Bug's request for the ring. He has since claimed to be Sauron and Gollem. But you guys want to keep speculating on the mechanics of the ring. You're missing the point of Day 1 Jackal. You can't find scum with no posts in the thread, which is why we need something to talk about. Of course it's useless speculation. But guess what, if someone has to take paragraphs to discuss the ring and alignments, and then clams up when we actually have votes to discuss, that makes the discussion worthwhile. There's no need for the aggression.
And this is why I asked for JeeJee. Same thing can be said of Erandorr, Palmar, Archon_Toilet. Inactives cripple the town, especially if they get some sort of blue role that can help make things happen.
As for active lurking, we see people like Pyo, iGrok, GGQ and Vain. We have lots of targets, but we are grasping at a few people who are talking set up when the guys pressuring them provoked the set-up discussion. Also WBG should be ignored IMHO, we can take him out later.
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On September 18 2011 06:15 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2011 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
My vote is on prplhz, at least now. Let's c if anything new comes up before day ends.
##vote prplhz wow what a 100th post i'm so blown away i want to vote for me too now i don't like drh or heist or wiggles but there are tons of people here who are worthy of scrutiny Show nested quote +On September 18 2011 04:46 DoctorHelvetica wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
It's generally agreed that a 50/50 bandwagon is pretty much the ideal situation for mafia. Actually when the town all agrees on one player that is the scummiest and tunnels them leaving no wiggle room, that is the worst scenario for mafia because assuming town was correct they have no way out of it.
Vain is definitely being antagonistic and the fact that he slipped under the radar for such bad posting isn't a good sign.
People seem to be complaining that we're still talking about Gollum or the ring or whatever but most of the discussion on the last few pages is about a lynch so stop complaining. I'm keeping my vote on WBG until I make up my mind. Vain, Drazerk, prplhz are all people I'm looking at.
stuff like this, it's the wiggle room we want 'cause that's when people really have to talk about stuff, even if we're lynching a scum i think 51/49 is better than 100/0 and drh should probably think so too unless he's a crazyman i'm fine with wbg and cyriandor and syllogism, good questions and wbg is not worth the attention he's getting right now, let him troll around and then maybe a vig can shoot him at some point or whatever
I'm not gonna fight with you on this. I'm not saying people shouldn't press who they think is scum. But when there is one overwhelming bandwagon against an obvious mafia we shouldn't go out of our way to split it since that's what the mafia wants. I'm not advocating analyzing/voting for only one player a day. That's silly. There is usually only a single bandwagon when something like a major scum slip/red DT check/really good analysis comes up on a player and that's exactly what should happen in that case. Maybe there is just a misunderstanding between us but I think having (in a vacuum) a split wagon between two players is the ideal situation for scum.
On September 18 2011 05:58 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2011 05:49 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On September 18 2011 05:39 wherebugsgo wrote:On September 18 2011 05:35 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Drazerk never said that you're scum because you have posting restrictions. You aren't making any sense and now that you're getting "pressure" to scumhunt you're showing the worst case of scumhunting I've ever seen.
"TranceStorm is scum TranceStorm is scum Trancestorm is scum" is not scumhunting. Neither are OMGUS votes based on bad misunderstandings of what another player is saying.
You said your first vote/reasons were bad. Yet in that same post you say "
I already found you scum, look at TranceStorm." That's some big confidence for a "bad" vote. Cut the bullshit. It's obvious that what ever you are, you're not here to help us.
Honestly on Day 1 I'd be more content lynching a pretty sure SK/Third Party player than some gut scum read that is probably wrong and end up killing some VT or power role that is actually helping us. As far as your posting all you are is an annoyance and a distraction. Are you fucking kidding? Drazerk didn't say anything about me being scum other than "leaning" scum on me. In the same post he says there are "definitely posting restrictions" when participating in a conversation about me talking about the ring in posts I make. Drazerk is scummy. I also think TranceStorm is scummy, I don't think my vote reason was bad, I just didn't explicitly state my vote reason. I wanted it to appear "bad" to promote discussion (which I did, no?) You specifically said this. THIS GUY IS SCUM.
He thinks, "wherebugsgo has a posting restriction"=he must be scum.
Hey genius, guess what, I'm not scum just because I have a posting restriction. Drazerk never even once implied that you having a posting restriction makes you scum. So no, I'm not kidding my point still stands. He never said or implied it was scummy. Sorry. This entire quoted attack on Drazerk is based on a bad misunderstanding. You didn't say anything about TranceStorm being scum other than he was scum and that was it. It wasn't until way later that you explained your vote (giving us all of one sentence of justification). If that's your basis for voting Drazerk, perhaps you should vote for yourself. Oh I see you're playing bad on purpose to "promote discussion" i.e draw all attention to yourself and make the whole day 1 discussion worthless. Very good town play, bravo. Why don't you tell me Drazerk's motivation for voting for me, then? Why did he mention the posting restrictions in the context of his vote on me? Why did he sheep Chaoser? You seem to know all about Drazerk. Go ahead and tell us. And yes, I did say that my vote reason was bad, because that was the way I intended it to appear. I have reasons for voting him, I don't have to state everything and put it out on a silver platter for you. This is the same reason why I'm not going to tell anyone why I want the ring. If you guys decide to give me the ring, fine, if you don't, you're just hurting yourselves. Of course, I might actually have to put everything on a nice silver platter, since most townies are usually extraordinarily thick and incapable of reasoning.
You're pretty good at jumping to conclusions. He mentioned it because it was what we were talking about. Other people were speculating about whether or not you have a posting restriction and he is coming out and saying you probably do. He never connected it to his vote for you or his reasons for thinking you're scum. I'm not Drazerk I don't know why he voted for you. Stop being obnoxious I never said I knew anything about his reasons or what he's thinking I'm just saying your basis for attacking him is flawed. You have no reason to be this defensive unless you're guilty of something, slow to understand basic logic, or intent on being as annoying as possible in this game.
I've decided you're a clown and I'm not wasting anymore discussion talking to you about this. Come up with something good enough to reply to and I'll think about it. You're just noise.
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On September 18 2011 05:07 iGrok wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2011 02:24 iGrok wrote:
Greymist's thing is not something to lynch for, but it is something to remember in the future. But he is someone to keep an eye on.
I think whoever said WBG is probably gollum with a post restriction is right.
But Drazerk has my biggest suspicions today, and lynching him will also give us the most information so far, both about greymist and the others who jumped on him. So,
##Vote Drazerk What suspicions are those? Not to mention how bout we lynch to kill scum, instead of lynching to figure out information.
I'm all for lynching scum, but I highly doubt we hit scum today. There's no good candidates yet.
That being said, upon rereading I have no idea why I was suspicious of Drazerk. Chalk that up to an awful hangover. I'll try to work up something better soon[/QUOTE]
This post is really ugly, dude. A couple people call you out and you just completely backtrack? Looking forward to that 'something better'.
Voting igrok for now, I'd like to see the lynch be between igrok, prplhz, and perhaps one other player (vain?), let's not throw votes around at too many targets.
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Also, weighing in on raynpelikoneet and prplhz, I think prplhz is a good guy, he has a good point on scum being incentivized to bandwagon someone so they have better chances of getting the ring from a lynch, but they have to weigh that against becoming a painfully obvious voting block, however I also think that splitting the vote into two candidates at most MAY be a bad idea. rayn's tunnelling on him however is suspicious in of itself; but he does have a nice point of saying that townie votes on someone who has it make it likelier for them to get it instead of scum.
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On September 18 2011 06:38 GGQ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2011 05:07 iGrok wrote:On September 18 2011 02:24 iGrok wrote:
Greymist's thing is not something to lynch for, but it is something to remember in the future. But he is someone to keep an eye on.
I think whoever said WBG is probably gollum with a post restriction is right.
But Drazerk has my biggest suspicions today, and lynching him will also give us the most information so far, both about greymist and the others who jumped on him. So,
##Vote Drazerk What suspicions are those? Not to mention how bout we lynch to kill scum, instead of lynching to figure out information. I'm all for lynching scum, but I highly doubt we hit scum today. There's no good candidates yet. That being said, upon rereading I have no idea why I was suspicious of Drazerk. Chalk that up to an awful hangover. I'll try to work up something better soon This post is really ugly, dude. A couple people call you out and you just completely backtrack? Looking forward to that 'something better'. Voting igrok for now, I'd like to see the lynch be between igrok, prplhz, and perhaps one other player (vain?), let's not throw votes around at too many targets.
preview post is a useful function...
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On September 18 2011 06:32 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2011 06:15 prplhz wrote:On September 18 2011 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
My vote is on prplhz, at least now. Let's c if anything new comes up before day ends.
##vote prplhz wow what a 100th post i'm so blown away i want to vote for me too now i don't like drh or heist or wiggles but there are tons of people here who are worthy of scrutiny On September 18 2011 04:46 DoctorHelvetica wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
It's generally agreed that a 50/50 bandwagon is pretty much the ideal situation for mafia. Actually when the town all agrees on one player that is the scummiest and tunnels them leaving no wiggle room, that is the worst scenario for mafia because assuming town was correct they have no way out of it.
Vain is definitely being antagonistic and the fact that he slipped under the radar for such bad posting isn't a good sign.
People seem to be complaining that we're still talking about Gollum or the ring or whatever but most of the discussion on the last few pages is about a lynch so stop complaining. I'm keeping my vote on WBG until I make up my mind. Vain, Drazerk, prplhz are all people I'm looking at.
stuff like this, it's the wiggle room we want 'cause that's when people really have to talk about stuff, even if we're lynching a scum i think 51/49 is better than 100/0 and drh should probably think so too unless he's a crazyman i'm fine with wbg and cyriandor and syllogism, good questions and wbg is not worth the attention he's getting right now, let him troll around and then maybe a vig can shoot him at some point or whatever I'm not gonna fight with you on this. I'm not saying people shouldn't press who they think is scum. But when there is one overwhelming bandwagon against an obvious mafia we shouldn't go out of our way to split it since that's what the mafia wants. I'm not advocating analyzing/voting for only one player a day. That's silly. There is usually only a single bandwagon when something like a major scum slip/red DT check/really good analysis comes up on a player and that's exactly what should happen in that case. Maybe there is just a misunderstanding between us but I think having (in a vacuum) a split wagon between two players is the ideal situation for scum. Show nested quote +On September 18 2011 05:58 wherebugsgo wrote:On September 18 2011 05:49 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On September 18 2011 05:39 wherebugsgo wrote:On September 18 2011 05:35 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Drazerk never said that you're scum because you have posting restrictions. You aren't making any sense and now that you're getting "pressure" to scumhunt you're showing the worst case of scumhunting I've ever seen.
"TranceStorm is scum TranceStorm is scum Trancestorm is scum" is not scumhunting. Neither are OMGUS votes based on bad misunderstandings of what another player is saying.
You said your first vote/reasons were bad. Yet in that same post you say "
I already found you scum, look at TranceStorm." That's some big confidence for a "bad" vote. Cut the bullshit. It's obvious that what ever you are, you're not here to help us.
Honestly on Day 1 I'd be more content lynching a pretty sure SK/Third Party player than some gut scum read that is probably wrong and end up killing some VT or power role that is actually helping us. As far as your posting all you are is an annoyance and a distraction. Are you fucking kidding? Drazerk didn't say anything about me being scum other than "leaning" scum on me. In the same post he says there are "definitely posting restrictions" when participating in a conversation about me talking about the ring in posts I make. Drazerk is scummy. I also think TranceStorm is scummy, I don't think my vote reason was bad, I just didn't explicitly state my vote reason. I wanted it to appear "bad" to promote discussion (which I did, no?) You specifically said this. THIS GUY IS SCUM.
He thinks, "wherebugsgo has a posting restriction"=he must be scum.
Hey genius, guess what, I'm not scum just because I have a posting restriction. Drazerk never even once implied that you having a posting restriction makes you scum. So no, I'm not kidding my point still stands. He never said or implied it was scummy. Sorry. This entire quoted attack on Drazerk is based on a bad misunderstanding. You didn't say anything about TranceStorm being scum other than he was scum and that was it. It wasn't until way later that you explained your vote (giving us all of one sentence of justification). If that's your basis for voting Drazerk, perhaps you should vote for yourself. Oh I see you're playing bad on purpose to "promote discussion" i.e draw all attention to yourself and make the whole day 1 discussion worthless. Very good town play, bravo. Why don't you tell me Drazerk's motivation for voting for me, then? Why did he mention the posting restrictions in the context of his vote on me? Why did he sheep Chaoser? You seem to know all about Drazerk. Go ahead and tell us. And yes, I did say that my vote reason was bad, because that was the way I intended it to appear. I have reasons for voting him, I don't have to state everything and put it out on a silver platter for you. This is the same reason why I'm not going to tell anyone why I want the ring. If you guys decide to give me the ring, fine, if you don't, you're just hurting yourselves. Of course, I might actually have to put everything on a nice silver platter, since most townies are usually extraordinarily thick and incapable of reasoning. You're pretty good at jumping to conclusions. He mentioned it because it was what we were talking about. Other people were speculating about whether or not you have a posting restriction and he is coming out and saying you probably do. He never connected it to his vote for you or his reasons for thinking you're scum. I'm not Drazerk I don't know why he voted for you. Stop being obnoxious I never said I knew anything about his reasons or what he's thinking I'm just saying your basis for attacking him is flawed. You have no reason to be this defensive unless you're guilty of something, slow to understand basic logic, or intent on being as annoying as possible in this game. I've decided you're a clown and I'm not wasting anymore discussion talking to you about this. Come up with something good enough to reply to and I'll think about it. You're just noise.
You're also pretty good at soft defending him, not to mention doing the same things you're accusing me of doing. You accuse me of being overly defensive. Way to jump to conclusions (eyeroll)
I'm not voting Drazerk in defense.
Until Drazerk explains himself or I find someone else who I think is a better lynch today I'm leaving my vote on him.
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On September 18 2011 06:40 Ciryandor wrote:
Also, prplhz is a good guy but maybe he's not, scum might all vote together, but maybe they won't, And splitting the vote into two candidates might be bad, but maybe not. And Rayne is suspicious, but also he's not.
What I read
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explains what you didn't even make a case on him
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Here's some more logic for you:
If I'm a weak lynch target, and I've purposely drawn a lot of attention to myself, then why would Drazerk bother voting me? Think about it. It doesn't make sense from a town perspective for him to vote me. He's not contributing anything by voting me. He's not contributed anything yet, in fact.
I'd also like to point out that there are several players who have not even posted yet.
Sandroba we already have a reason for, but Palmar is completely absent. Erandorr as well.
No matter how stupid/scummy you think I am for wanting the ring we need to get these people to post so we don't have to fuck around with lurkers who end up boning us from behind by day 2 or 3. If you're not willing to encourage discussion and you'd rather just ignore these players too then I have to question your motives.
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On September 18 2011 07:01 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
explains what you didn't even make a case on him
why he voted me.
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On September 18 2011 07:29 Erandorr wrote:
Sup!
O Hai!
You've got a fair bit to catch up on yet.
Keep in mind while catching up that the minimum is 5 posts per day/night.
On wherebugsgo, I get the distinct impression he's just a townie who wanted to have the ring and decided acting as Smeagol and demanding the ring until people got bored of it was better than trying to defend himself actively. I'm willing to bet there is no posting restriction, in fact I think it was explicitly stated somewhere that there wasn't.
That said, I'd be comfortable with a lynch on him on the off-chance he is telling the truth about being third party, purely because that seems to make him a safer bet than most others.
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