EPTAs for me jumping on the gray bandwagon I actually pointed out the ring rubbish before Choaser but I am currently leaning on WBG being the more likely scum member now.
Ill be gone for the next couple of hours so sorry about any sort of inactivity.
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
As for me jumping on the gray bandwagon I actually pointed out the ring rubbish before Choaser but I am currently leaning on WBG being the more likely scum member now. Ill be gone for the next couple of hours so sorry about any sort of inactivity. | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On September 18 2011 02:11 Navillus wrote: 6th game != learned anything in 1-5, esp. cause I died really quickly in some and wasn't paying that much attention to most of them so I couldn't really learn. Also you're either lying about looking through my games, or just didn't really try, cause last game I played I opened with basically the same line, a complaint about getting VT yet again (I think it was cosmic horror, if not it was 2 games ago in werewolves but I'm pretty sure it was cosmic horror.) As to my thoughts, I'm even more skeptical on Drazerk, I had figured that that first vote was pressure, and from what I know Dr. H is a very good vet player so I figured that's exactly what he was doing when he added his vote on, but Drazerk isn't as good as Dr. H, I could see him being scum and thinking that they could actually get a wagon going, then what made me more suspicious is that he completely ducks my vote and instead attacks me. I didn't attack you I just called you a idiot for claiming VT. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On September 18 2011 02:11 Navillus wrote: 6th game != learned anything in 1-5, esp. cause I died really quickly in some and wasn't paying that much attention to most of them so I couldn't really learn. Also you're either lying about looking through my games, or just didn't really try, cause last game I played I opened with basically the same line, a complaint about getting VT yet again (I think it was cosmic horror, if not it was 2 games ago in werewolves but I'm pretty sure it was cosmic horror.). Fair enough, I used vt and town as my keywords, which apparently filters out townie, so I take that back. | ||
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
I think whoever said WBG is probably gollum with a post restriction is right. But Drazerk has my biggest suspicions today, and lynching him will also give us the most information so far, both about greymist and the others who jumped on him. So, ##Vote Drazerk | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
On September 18 2011 02:24 iGrok wrote: Greymist's thing is not something to lynch for, but it is something to remember in the future. But he is someone to keep an eye on. I think whoever said WBG is probably gollum with a post restriction is right. But Drazerk has my biggest suspicions today, and lynching him will also give us the most information so far, both about greymist and the others who jumped on him. So, ##Vote Drazerk Can you elaborate on these "suspicions" and also why lynching him would give us information regarding greymist and the people who voted for him? If drazerk flips scum, what does it tell you? And if he flips town? | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
##unvote: ##vote: wherebugsgo | ||
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heist
United States720 Posts
On September 17 2011 09:33 Vain wrote: How the fuck is that a reason? On September 17 2011 21:25 Vain wrote: So you mean we should get 2 targets and let scum decide who gets the lynch? Sounds like a plan These kind of posts are exactly what we can't allow to just slide by. You are just posting aggressive little one-liners that aren't exactly contributing much to town discussion. If you disagree with someone, I would ask that you flesh out your ideas more and provide your thoughts on specific players. As a side note, the reason we want at least two majority candidates is it forces everyone to make a choice. If we have just one easy target everyone votes for, we will gain absolutely no information based on the lynch since everyone voted the same. Being forced to choose creates liability and patterns will start to emerge that can be worked with. If the situation is 1 townie and 1 scum on the chopping block, and the mafia try to swing majority votes for the townie, that's a lot of information that we can use. | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On September 18 2011 02:11 Navillus wrote: 6th game != learned anything in 1-5, esp. cause I died really quickly in some and wasn't paying that much attention to most of them so I couldn't really learn. Also you're either lying about looking through my games, or just didn't really try, cause last game I played I opened with basically the same line, a complaint about getting VT yet again (I think it was cosmic horror, if not it was 2 games ago in werewolves but I'm pretty sure it was cosmic horror.) As to my thoughts, I'm even more skeptical on Drazerk, I had figured that that first vote was pressure, and from what I know Dr. H is a very good vet player so I figured that's exactly what he was doing when he added his vote on, but Drazerk isn't as good as Dr. H, I could see him being scum and thinking that they could actually get a wagon going, then what made me more suspicious is that he completely ducks my vote and instead attacks me. Are you planning on paying attention to this one? Also, if you're complaining about getting VT then you're playing mafia wrong. Vanilla Townie is my favorite role to have, I vastly prefer it to either red or blue as it allows me to focus solely on scum hunting without fear of death. If I could be vt every game I would. On September 18 2011 02:14 Drazerk wrote: Posting restrictions are definitely in place. As for me jumping on the gray bandwagon I actually pointed out the ring rubbish before Choaser but I am currently leaning on WBG being the more likely scum member now. Ill be gone for the next couple of hours so sorry about any sort of inactivity. Are you insinuating you have a posting restriction? On September 18 2011 02:24 iGrok wrote: Greymist's thing is not something to lynch for, but it is something to remember in the future. But he is someone to keep an eye on. I think whoever said WBG is probably gollum with a post restriction is right. But Drazerk has my biggest suspicions today, and lynching him will also give us the most information so far, both about greymist and the others who jumped on him. So, ##Vote Drazerk What suspicions are those? Not to mention how bout we lynch to kill scum, instead of lynching to figure out information. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On September 18 2011 02:39 Jackal58 wrote: And it they're both townies what does that tell us? That was to Heist. His proposal is so pro mafia it's not even funny. | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On September 18 2011 02:35 heist wrote: These kind of posts are exactly what we can't allow to just slide by. You are just posting aggressive little one-liners that aren't exactly contributing much to town discussion. If you disagree with someone, I would ask that you flesh out your ideas more and provide your thoughts on specific players. As a side note, the reason we want at least two majority candidates is it forces everyone to make a choice. If we have just one easy target everyone votes for, we will gain absolutely no information based on the lynch since everyone voted the same. Being forced to choose creates liability and patterns will start to emerge that can be worked with. If the situation is 1 townie and 1 scum on the chopping block, and the mafia try to swing majority votes for the townie, that's a lot of information that we can use. Far more likely is two townies on the chopping block, but that's fine too. As long as we're not allowing players to vote with reasons like ' lol scumslip' or the like. Which as you say, means no easy lynchees. We're not looking for players who make scummy or nonsensical posts. We're looking for players with careful posts, blech voting reasons, neutral stances and mediocre activity. So far there are several. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
On September 18 2011 02:40 Jackal58 wrote: That was to Heist. His proposal is so pro mafia it's not even funny. I disagree; it's pretty much always better to have two lynch wagons. He wasn't proposing a chain lynch and even if both wagons turn out to be town, it forces scum to voice their opinion on both candidates, thus producing more information for later analysis. | ||
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OriginalName
Canada1140 Posts
On September 18 2011 02:33 Drazerk wrote: since I forgot to do it before I left ##unvote: ##vote: wherebugsgo Can you actually give us reasoning or you just scummy mc scumscum Especially since weve basically concluded that WBG is just being a tard atm. | ||
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OriginalName
Canada1140 Posts
On September 18 2011 02:14 Drazerk wrote: Posting restrictions are definitely in place. As for me jumping on the gray bandwagon I actually pointed out the ring rubbish before Choaser but I am currently leaning on WBG being the more likely scum member now. Ill be gone for the next couple of hours so sorry about any sort of inactivity. Also this post as well pops alarms. Your "Jumping on the bandwagon". Really sir, are you even attempting to think for yourself or have your own opinions. | ||
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heist
United States720 Posts
On September 17 2011 10:23 Navillus wrote: God @#$% it I have now rolled VT in literally every &*!@ing game that had it that I have played in >:[ anyways if Drazerk gets to vote people with little to no justification then I do too ##Vote Drazerk Claiming your role hours into the game is the single most suspicious thing anyone has done this game. Not only is this your very first post into the game, but you also start off with a very early vote. Let's place this in conjunction with your latest post. On September 18 2011 02:11 Navillus wrote: 6th game != learned anything in 1-5, esp. cause I died really quickly in some and wasn't paying that much attention to most of them so I couldn't really learn. Also you're either lying about looking through my games, or just didn't really try, cause last game I played I opened with basically the same line, a complaint about getting VT yet again (I think it was cosmic horror, if not it was 2 games ago in werewolves but I'm pretty sure it was cosmic horror.) As to my thoughts, I'm even more skeptical on Drazerk, I had figured that that first vote was pressure, and from what I know Dr. H is a very good vet player so I figured that's exactly what he was doing when he added his vote on, but Drazerk isn't as good as Dr. H, I could see him being scum and thinking that they could actually get a wagon going, then what made me more suspicious is that he completely ducks my vote and instead attacks me. Your original claim for voting for Drazerk is that he had no justification. Yet now you admit that you knew exactly what DrH and Drazerk were trying to do: create pressure. But you feel the need to start your game off by voting for one of them. It's a safe and easy vote at the time but now there is clear contradiction between your reasoning then and your justifications now. Your entire response to people (one of whom is Drazerk) calling you out on claiming so early is troubling to me. You claim over and over to be inexperienced and you start attacking those that called you out, namely Drazerk. Furthermore, your reasoning for attacking Drazerk is a little troubling. So... if I understand correctly, DrH and Drazerk do the exact same thing, but one is a vet townie and one is scummy? Based purely on how you good you think they are? You also provide additional justification in saying he attacked you. He never attacked you, he called you out for claiming VT. I can believe you made a mistake, but your reactions so far to being challenged is one that I find highly suspicious. | ||
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heist
United States720 Posts
On September 18 2011 02:40 Jackal58 wrote: That was to Heist. His proposal is so pro mafia it's not even funny. It's none worse in having two townies closely leading the vote and one townie a clear frontrunner. Obviously it's not the ideal situation to find oneself in and that's why we all work tirelessly to make sure this doesn't happen. If two townies are leading the votes, town is doing something wrong. | ||
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heist
United States720 Posts
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On September 18 2011 02:24 iGrok wrote: Greymist's thing is not something to lynch for, but it is something to remember in the future. But he is someone to keep an eye on. I think whoever said WBG is probably gollum with a post restriction is right. But Drazerk has my biggest suspicions today, and lynching him will also give us the most information so far, both about greymist and the others who jumped on him. So, ##Vote Drazerk Like radfield said, let's lynch scum not for info. What suspicions do you have? What do you think about prplhz? This is your first post and it leaves much to be desired. Guys, wherebugsgo, trancestorm, and drazrek are horrible lynches. They're not hiding behind anything. They are being very open and contributing, if they really are scum, as long as they keep contributing like they are now, we WILL figure it out.' I already talked about WBG and trance, and for drazerk mafia generally don't join votes so early on, especially a vote on one as silly as greyjoy's. They rather point out how ridiculous it is and try to get town cred through seeming "correct". I said I leaned townie on drh and drazrek which isn't that intense a statement so I don't understand why jcarlsoniv finds it such a large leap. Will be keeping an eye on you. For the time being I hope people can see why prphlz is acting scummy and vote him over all the "easy targets". | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
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OriginalName
Canada1140 Posts
Furthermore, your reasoning for attacking Drazerk is a little troubling. So... if I understand correctly, DrH and Drazerk do the exact same thing, but one is a vet townie and one is scummy? Based purely on how you good you think they are? You also provide additional justification in saying he attacked you. He never attacked you, he called you out for claiming VT. I can believe you made a mistake, but your reactions so far to being challenged is one that I find highly suspicious. Im 99% sure DrH is not doing the exact same thing as Drazerk to begin with... | ||
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