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Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
September 05 2011 07:14 GMT
#2281
On September 05 2011 16:04 supersoft wrote:
Pyo
Kurumi
xtfftc
Erandorr
Vain
chaoser
supersoft
Curu
________

3 scum against 5 townies -2 nightkills

:-( this looks so grim for us.


are you leaving off RayzorFlash intentionally?
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
September 05 2011 07:25 GMT
#2282
yes of course -,- i want to protect my scumbuddy rayzor.
xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
September 05 2011 08:02 GMT
#2283
On September 05 2011 11:58 RayzorFlash wrote:
3 modkills... At least it'll be an interesting day post, even though there wasnt a lynch... We fell one vote short, xtfftc being the last one to switch from Pyo over to me causing a no lynch

WTF xt, I havent thought you were scummy since any point after day 2, but this makes me reconsider it


If three out of the 9 townies decide not to play anymore, we have no chance anyway.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 05 2011 08:26 GMT
#2284
Computer says mafia
Lucidity
Profile Joined July 2010
South Africa603 Posts
September 05 2011 08:51 GMT
#2285
What the fuck man. I definitely voted in the voting thread. :////////////////////// The page must have timed out or something with me not noticing. Sorry guys

I made my vote after this post:

+ Show Spoiler +
On September 03 2011 21:00 Lucidity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2011 11:11 RayzorFlash wrote:
WTF chaoser survives 2 nights after claiming AND saying he found a scum (which was itself made at a really bad time where he could've been trying to cause a mislynch from Mig)?

Something isn't right here...

This is your first suspicion in like a week? And you just pop in right after the flips? Convenient timing isn't it?

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On September 03 2011 13:40 Pyo wrote:
ya know, it was awfully convenient that you happened to be able to confirm your sanity after the first 2 nights and happened to have picked the person who was getting framed as your 3rd check. Ya know, you still haven't technically confirmed that you really are town.
If you all are going to lynch me not much more I can do to stop it... I've stated my defense as well as I can, but when I flip blue, I think it's pretty clear who should really be lynched.

##vote: chaoser

Let's translate that shall we? "ya know, you haven't been able to confirm yourself as 100% townie. You haven't been acting scummy, but you're not 100% town, so let's lynch you."

herp scum.

I can see the scum plan now. Keep chaoser alive to discredit him. RF: Go point out that he's still alive! A claimed DT is still alive!! Clearly he's Mafia! Even though he is useless while RB'd. Pyo: To add to the doubt, point out that he's not technically confirmed!! He's still alive and he's not 100% confirmed, clearly town will have to agree that he's absolutely mafia!! Let's push this lynch guys!!

ye

##vote Pyo



meh
Valar Morghulis
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
September 05 2011 08:53 GMT
#2286
i'll be back tonight and then we see what we can do.
I will hand in my Bachelorthesis in about 5 hours.
Navillus
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1188 Posts
September 05 2011 17:09 GMT
#2287
Argh sorry for lurking and getting modkilled guys I was trying to get active again
GOGO TOWN
"TL gives excellent advice 99% of the time. The problem is no one listens to it." -Plexa
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
September 05 2011 21:08 GMT
#2288
well, well, well. Things looking pretty bad for us right now :D

Let's see who gets shot tonight... :-/
xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
September 05 2011 22:52 GMT
#2289
On August 21 2011 08:38 Mig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 01:41 Palmar wrote:
Where the fuck is Mig, are you scum this game too?


I went to bed broski.

After reading back through everything I actually think chaoser is scummier than sevryn. He spent the start of the day making bland fluff posts giving generic advice to town and followed it up with doing absolutely no scum hunting. For comparison look at his posts day1 and day2 of mafia 39

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=216644&user=41788.

In 39 chaoser absolutely dominated as town single handedly taking out half the scum team within the first 2 days. In that game he didn't make any fluff posts giving generic advice, he spent all his time actively pressuring people and doing real scum hunting. And now look at his play and his activity this game. It is the polar opposite.

I still think sevryn is scummy but his play is at least similar to his town meta, chaoser is playing completely out of character for his town play and is contributing nothing when he is a very strong player.

Vote: Chaoser


If people don't switch I will go back to sevryn before the deadline.



On August 21 2011 08:56 Mig wrote:
The Vet point for chaoser is accurate but there is a pretty huge difference between being such a dominating force and providing detailed and good scum hunting and his play this game. The main thing to look at is chaoser's motivation. In 39 he ran a gambit where he pressure voted early just to try and get a read on a player. He was actively searching for scum, he was questioning people repeatedly early on. This game he has been completely MIA he asked nav like 2 questions, which he didn't follow up on at all. He is putting 0 effort into helping the town when he very capable.


An entertaining read, especially if Mig actually posted this for a fellow mafia member ^^
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
September 05 2011 23:27 GMT
#2290
*sigh*
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
September 06 2011 00:29 GMT
#2291
xtfftc and rayzor are scum. Depending on who dies tonight i might know the third guy.
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
September 06 2011 01:59 GMT
#2292
Making this post a minute before deadline in case I die.

If the two claimed DTs do not die/are not blocked tonight, one of them is most likely fakeclaiming Mafia. There is no way Mafia is going to let the DTs get a check off for lylo. The possibilities I see:

If both die or one is blocked and one dies, we should take a heavy look at the surviving one. Heavier for chaoser than Pyo since chaoser has claimed both an innocent and a guilty result. Gmarshal said naïve DTs will always return green no matter what, so chaoser cannot be naïve. If Mafia left him untouched, there’s a very high chance he is Mafia especially with the Framer dead. If Pyo is left untouched, then he is either Mafia or Mafia would know he is naïve, which means one or more of the people he checked previously (Vain/Rayzor/Erandorr – I’m 90% sure Vain is Town, so that leaves Rayzor and Erandorr there) are Mafia.

If Pyo dies and flips DT and chaoser is blocked, I think we should consider chaoser Town. If chaoser were Mafia, they would surely consider that Pyo dying and flipping DT would look chaoser look way bad.

If chaoser dies and flips DT and Pyo is blocked, he may be sane, meaning the scumteam is within Rayzor, supersoft, me, and Kurumi. I find that scenario highly unlikely since that would mean a Rayzor/supersoft/Kurumi scumteam; I see no reason why Kurumi, if he was a scum Vig, would claim his shot. Supersoft has looked Town. More likely that one of the people he investigated is the Godfather or was framed into innocence. Likewise I think if chaoser dies and flips DT and Pyo is not blocked, we should consider Pyo Town as a chaoser DT flip would put a lot of pressure on Pyo. 3 DTs is not out of the realm of possibility, especially considering Mafia had a Framer and could very well have a Godfather, and that Pyo may be naïve.

If neither dies and neither is blocked, I would suspect chaoser way harder than Pyo since there is no chance chaoser is naïve while Pyo may be. If both claimed block one is obviously lying so I would go after Pyo since he has looked scummier than chaoser thus far.

If Pyo is scum I would lean towards a Pyo/Erandorr/Rayzor or xt. Supersoft and xt are the two responsible for Pyo’s no lynch, but I highly doubt that two Mafia would be putting their vote elsewhere. More likely that he was bussed by at least one Mafia member and they got insanely lucky that three Townies derped their way to a no vote modkill. I feel like supersoft is more likely Town than xt. Pyo never voted for Rayzor despite saying he was a suspect and that Rayzor was the next most likely wagon.

If chaoser is scum I would towards a Rayzor/chaoser/Kurumi scumteam. I highly doubt both Pyo and chaoser are both scum and if chaoser is scum and Pyo is Town then that confirms supersoft and xt as Town. The third member of that team is hard to peg but Kurumi is the one I can see most connected to chaoser. Rayzor and chaoser soft defended each other all past day.

Then again both Pyo and chaoser have ties to Rayzor as well, with Pyo offering up chaoser as a lynch despite never mentioning or questioning him before and stating many times that:

On September 03 2011 11:00 Pyo wrote:
I'm pretty sure that the scum team can be found within Rayzor, supersoft, chaos13 and Navillus

I was going to write up more analysis of them but i ran out of time.


Chaoser already pointed this out. Pyo didn’t want to switch his vote to Rayzor despite him being the only likely lynch besides Pyo; his vote stayed on Rayzor. I highly, highly doubt both Pyo and chaoser are Mafia, but both have connections to Rayzor.

If there is no clear night actions painting chaoser as scum, I would like to lynch Pyo or Rayzor. They are the scummiest pair.
wat
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
September 06 2011 02:00 GMT
#2293
I thought about it all day and the voting yesterday makes sense if the scum team is: Pyo, rayzorflash, and Erandorr. When xtfftc pushed for rayzor to be lynched, as the only alternative, they couldn't just vote for him so they let their votes rest on pyo and tried to push the lynch onto me, as part of their plan to not kill me and lead town to a mislynch. Rayzorflash is probably roleblocker.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
September 06 2011 02:03 GMT
#2294
Writing the day post now. Gimme a few minutes
Moderator
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
September 06 2011 02:05 GMT
#2295
Can I still post relevant things even if I die as long as it's before daypost?
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
September 06 2011 02:07 GMT
#2296
(Everyone please look through Rayzor, Pyo, and chaoser and see if there is anything I missed)
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
September 06 2011 02:11 GMT
#2297
On September 05 2011 13:27 Pyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2011 11:58 RayzorFlash wrote:
3 modkills... At least it'll be an interesting day post, even though there wasnt a lynch... We fell one vote short, xtfftc being the last one to switch from Pyo over to me causing a no lynch

WTF xt, I havent thought you were scummy since any point after day 2, but this makes me reconsider it



If he hadn't the game would be over if mafia used both their KP... 3 modkills means we're in LyLo so we can't afford to lynch me now - we also can't afford to no lynch. After tonight it will be 4 - 3, so if there are any traitors present at all (who will likely push for a no-lynch), it's game over. The only hope is for mafia to kill off said traitors. *crosses fingers*


Forgot to mention this, Pyo is basically telling the Traitor that the only way Town can win is if Traitor doesn't claim and gets shot (ie encouraging him to claim so Mafia won't hit him). There is no reason for a Townie to post this.
wat
RayzorFlash
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada253 Posts
September 06 2011 02:26 GMT
#2298
Curu, I've never soft or hard defended anyone at all the entire game, especially not chaoser... I was suspicious of him since his claim, and was the first person to openly worry about his claim not being all it seems

If chaoser doesnt die tonight, I stand entirely by my stance and fully want to see him lynched and flip red.... If he does die tonight, I'll analyze after the post and see who I'll vote for, lol
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
September 06 2011 02:35 GMT
#2299
Day 7

[image loading]


Darkness, darkness falling over the world, a shadow rising, covered in the blood of innocents, screaming women and children as the darkness wraps around them, tearing them from this world, the flesh bubbling off their bones. It was with a horrified scream that xtfftc woke from this nightmare, his shield tightly clutched against his body. This was most abnormal, "angles aren't supposed to have nightmares" thought xtfftc to himself, standing up from his usual trance position and looking into the darkness outside. With a sigh of worry xtfftc began to assume the trance position again when he became aware of a presence in the room, a dark, foreboding thing that wrapped around him like a cloak. xtfftc turned and faced the woman standing at the door with a grin painted on her face. "Hello angel" she spoke, her voice smooth as poison "had pleasant dreams?" xtfftc sighed once again, he knew how this dance ended, he knew what his dream meant now, and there was nothing he could do to stop it. xtfftc took a battle stance summoning the Whip of the Sephardi to his hand and whispering his most fervent prayers. Before he could do more than that the shadows wrapped around him, and xtfftc faded into mist, his mission far from complete and the fate of the world left looking all the more dire.

Vain was having similar dreams, in fact his nightmares where so terrifying that he had renounced sleep, and was instead scouring his notes, looking for something, some damming contradiction that would help him make his case. He was feverishly pouring over his notes when he heard the noise of the door giving in. Vain sprinted towards the emergency exit he had had the foresight to prepare, forcing it open and scrabbling down the rope ladder and setting off the emergency smoke charges he had placed all over the house. Vain hit the floor and started sprinting, congratulating himself on his preparedness when a volley of black bolts thud into his chest. Vain died in a puddle of blood surprise painted on his face as he bled out.

xtfftc Azarias the Protector (Guardian Angel) has been exiled from the mortal realm
Vain, Lance the professional starcraft 2 player (Liquidite) has bled out

+ Show Spoiler [Azarias] +
Guardian Angel - welcome to TL Mafia XLIV you are Azarias the Protector. You have arrived in liquidia ready to offer your services to do battle against the rising cult. Your symbols are the sheild and sand. Every night you can choose to wrap a citizen in a cloak of sand and steel, shielding them from a single KP, during the day you wander the streets of liquidia, transformed into a human, your eyes have an inhumanly light blue colour, and you are taller than would be expected, but other than that you resemble any of the other liquidites, albeit somewhat more soft spoken

+ Show Spoiler [Lance] +
Liquidite - Welcome to TL Mafia XLIV you are Lance, the local professional starcraft 2 player, your user name is Town, and you are a member of the well reputed team IM, as IMTown, you have no special powers, however you will use your tactical genius and gosu micro to vote for scum and bring down the mafia.


Day 7 has begun. Will the town figure out who to kill, or will the world be cast into eternal darkness?
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
September 06 2011 02:35 GMT
#2300
If chaoser doesnt die tonight, I stand entirely by my stance and fully want to see him lynched and flip red.... If he does die tonight, I'll analyze after the post and see who I'll vote for, lol


Who says something like this? Mafia. If you're mafia, obviously you have control over who dies and who doesn't. Obviously you're not going to kill me and then try to lead a mislynch on that. Since it's LYLO you only need the one.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
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