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Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
September 06 2011 16:16 GMT
#2321
I'll repeat this in it's own post since it might get overlooked:


RAYZOR IS NOT SCUM. He is a traitor. He is asking us to lynch him because lynching him would secure the win for mafia.
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
September 06 2011 16:44 GMT
#2322
Rayzor is not the Traitor, if he was he would have claimed last night which was, as you so helpfully pointed out, the optimal play.

You yourself said if there was a Traitor alive at the start of this day game is already over.

Why would you switch your vote to Erandorr if you believed chaoser was scum? If your assumption of Rayzor Town is true, then you should know getting him to vote chaoser would be much easier than getting him to vote Erandorr.

Pretty hilarious that the reason Rayzor self voted was so the Mafia team could claim him as Traitor to stop his lynch when their Traitor fishing the previous night pulled up a blank.

Rayzor/Pyo scumteam, let's do it.
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
September 06 2011 16:59 GMT
#2323
Day 1 voting Mig, BB, nard, Pyo were all conveniently absent or refused to switch vote to Rayzor. Don't mess this up Town, all it takes is Mafia convincing one of you to vote the wrong way.
wat
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
September 06 2011 17:30 GMT
#2324
I never trusted Pyo, this only brings end to his scumbuddies and himself. The more important one first, Rayzorflash.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
September 06 2011 18:11 GMT
#2325
Calling it now, scum team: kurumi, chaoser, erandorr

Doesn't seem like there's anything else I can do since supersoft has disappeared and curu doesn't want to listen (there's a guy voting for himself... why would you help him out? That's just retarded). With scum controlling 3 votes and rayzor being a traitor, it's already game over... the next (and last) 8 hours are gonna be the most painful - only hope is for Erandorr to get modkilled.
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
September 06 2011 21:38 GMT
#2326
On September 07 2011 03:11 Pyo wrote:
Calling it now, scum team: kurumi, chaoser, erandorr

Doesn't seem like there's anything else I can do since supersoft has disappeared and curu doesn't want to listen (there's a guy voting for himself... why would you help him out? That's just retarded). With scum controlling 3 votes and rayzor being a traitor, it's already game over... the next (and last) 8 hours are gonna be the most painful - only hope is for Erandorr to get modkilled.


Stop running yourself in a wall dude I pushed for Scum (other than mig , I admit) every time when you were happy bandwagoning.
I am not voting yet, I will read the thread thoroughly and make sure I am convinced in the vote I will make
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
September 06 2011 23:27 GMT
#2327
i'll figure something out... since xtfftc wasn't scum, i have to take many things into reconsideration :-D
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
September 06 2011 23:39 GMT
#2328
Random Rayzor Highlights I noticed while going through his posts ;

Just to be clear:
- Jackal is against me because he thinks that, since I'm a new player, for me to be participating at all means I'm being coached, instead of meaning that I may actually have researched the game and have a sense of how to play??


Took time coz I wasnt at home, sorry ...

Myself: I think theres a very solid case against me, but what scum would totally put themselves out there like this, and have NOBODY else defending him except for himself??? I don't think that behavior fits scum... Maybe a very noob town player, which I am, but if I was scum I'd be more guarded or protected, dont you think?



Sorry guys, I've had computer issues since last night, and still do, lol...

I have no problem with lynching either Hiro or Xtfftc, so long as its not a no-lynch... I'll try to check back and change my vote before the deadline, its on Hiro right now... Go back and read some of my earlier posts about why I think Hiro's been acting scummy if you need more reasons to vote for him



I'm trying to catch up on this again because i was in a flight (toronto to london)... This game is really being pretty shitty, and I cant help but think that its partly my fault due to my absolutely horrible sense of who is town and who isnt (all the of my picks so far have turned out to be town, lady luck is a bitch, lol...) and me being new at this (contrary to popular belief, not getting coached either) i've turned out to seem so scummy despite being town -_-




Now, also, keep in mind that I am a new player, and this is my first game, and (contrary to popular belief) i havent been getting coached... The only research I actually did before staring was read the Analysis post, as well as the beginners guide, and an older Mafia game (XLiii)

He also got away with pushing the first two lynches and then just bandwagoning from there on .


##Vote Rayzor
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
September 06 2011 23:41 GMT
#2329
I dont want to write a giant wall of text right now, I want people to read everything that has been colected on Rayzor and then maybe we can turn this game around
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
September 06 2011 23:42 GMT
#2330
On September 07 2011 08:27 supersoft wrote:
i'll figure something out... since xtfftc wasn't scum, i have to take many things into reconsideration :-D


what the fuck was that ninja vote???
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
September 07 2011 00:58 GMT
#2331
25 hours left in the day.
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Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
September 07 2011 02:22 GMT
#2332
hmm... lol I totally thought that the game ended today.

If you need any more proof that erandorr is scum:


On September 07 2011 08:29 GMarshal wrote:
Day 7 Votecount


chaoser
RayzorFlash
Pyo

RayzorFlash (5)
chaoser
RayzorFlash
Curu
supersoft
Kurumi

Erandorr(1)
Pyo

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch. RayzorFlash has a majority with 5 votes.



On September 07 2011 08:42 Erandorr wrote:
##Vote RayzorFlash


If there are 7 alive and 5 votes on rayzor, that means that there's at least 1 vote on Rayzor by a scum. That means that Rayzor can't be an actual scum!!!! Take your votes off of him townies - come on guys even if we're doomed to lose, don't lose because you're flat out retarded... unless there are 3 traitors and GM is just fucking with me, in which case, touché.
Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
September 07 2011 02:24 GMT
#2333
On September 07 2011 11:22 Pyo wrote:
hmm... lol I totally thought that the game ended today.

If you need any more proof that erandorr is scum:


Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 08:29 GMarshal wrote:
Day 7 Votecount


chaoser
RayzorFlash
Pyo

RayzorFlash (5)
chaoser
RayzorFlash
Curu
supersoft
Kurumi

Erandorr(1)
Pyo

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch. RayzorFlash has a majority with 5 votes.



Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 08:42 Erandorr wrote:
##Vote RayzorFlash


If there are 7 alive and 5 votes on rayzor, that means that there's at least 1 vote on Rayzor by a scum. That means that Rayzor can't be an actual scum!!!! Take your votes off of him townies - come on guys even if we're doomed to lose, don't lose because you're flat out retarded... unless there are 3 traitors and GM is just fucking with me, in which case, touché.


Correction: if there are 5 votes on rayzor with 7 alive, there's at least 2 votes on Rayzor by scum.
RayzorFlash
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada253 Posts
September 07 2011 02:26 GMT
#2334
Meh, turns out I have to remember to Play to Win instead of giving up on the game, lol...

I guess I'll put my vote on whoever seems scummiest to me instead of myself, QQ, lol

I think the scumteam is Chaoser, Supersoft, and one of either Pyo or Kurumi, with the other one being the traitor...

##Unvote RayzorFlash
##Vote: Chaoser
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
September 07 2011 03:13 GMT
#2335
The many ways you try to spin Rayzor as not scum is incredible. At least I don't have to think it's chaoser anymore.

Let me explain to you why your reasoning is faulty. It's lylo for Town, not scum. So if the scumteam was going to go try to save Rayzor and try to go for a win today, they would've told the third member to bus Rayzor rather than give up both. Because lynching Rayzor doesn't lose the game for them, it just removes on of their three chances.
wat
RayzorFlash
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada253 Posts
September 07 2011 05:28 GMT
#2336
So you say that Pyo and me are scum, but then go on to say that its LYLO for town, not for scum. If so, why would mafia be trying to SAVE a member if it isn't LYLO for them... How does that make any sense?? If mafia were going to lose a player, they'd at least take the opportunity to plant seeds for who town goes after next. Do you see any of that at all from anybody?

Now think, if I'm town, mafia doesnt need to do anything at ALL this entire day, they just sit back, watch me get lynched, toss votes on me as inconspicuously as possible, and watch as the game ends. Thats what I'm currently seeing... We're single-minded in lynching me because of the buildup since the first day when I became a candidate just out of sheer hysteria and picking someone (ANYONE) except for Sevryn, and mafia can just sit back and watch as they win.

I self-voted to see which mafia would vote for me in a passing-by manner in order to tip the scales and seal the win for them once they saw that I was close to getting a majority, and the most suspicious one of those so far was Kurumi...

I believe Kurumi to be scum now, after being suspicious of him for a while actually, because the entire game he's been basically a loose cannon, randomly picking and choosing every possible town person, and now all of a sudden jumping on me for the first time the whole game, saying i'm the most important candidate, providing the key vote that pushes the majority (the 4th vote)...

I seriously think Erandorr and Curu are town, and chaoser and Kuru are definitely scum... I was seriously sold on supersoft, but I went through his posts in depth right now and am a lot less sure about it now, and same goes for Pyo...

I'd be up for lynching either Chaoser or Kurumi, and I think those are the only scum we're likely to get a majority on today... Keeping vote on Chaoser right now, but will willingly switch to Kuru if theres a majority there...
Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
September 07 2011 06:26 GMT
#2337
As I said before scum team is chaoser, kurumi and very likely Erandorr (though i'm willing to entertain the possibility that supersoft is scum). But chaoser was and still is my #1 choice for lynch.

##unvote erandorr
##vote chaoser
Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
September 07 2011 06:33 GMT
#2338
On September 07 2011 12:13 Curu wrote:
The many ways you try to spin Rayzor as not scum is incredible. At least I don't have to think it's chaoser anymore.

Let me explain to you why your reasoning is faulty. It's lylo for Town, not scum. So if the scumteam was going to go try to save Rayzor and try to go for a win today, they would've told the third member to bus Rayzor rather than give up both. Because lynching Rayzor doesn't lose the game for them, it just removes on of their three chances.


Did you even read what you wrote? Are you serious? Your statement is inherently flawed and devoid of logic... You just said, "if scum was going to save Rayzor, they would not save Rayzor." I keep wanting to think that you're scum because it is so hard for me to accept that anyone would say something so ridiculous.
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
September 07 2011 14:06 GMT
#2339
If a scum gets lynched, the scumteam doesn't lose. The game goes on. If a Townie gets lynched, scumteam wins instantly. Thus it makes sense that the scum would sacrifice one to try to win the game outright today, while telling the final member to lie low and avoid making himself known; if it fails, then only two scum are given away

Three scum left with two under heavy fire in lylo, optimal play would be to get those two to try to swing the lynch onto a Townie while the third less suspected member stays back/buses so if the win attempt fails then scum still have a chance to win.

You know that the game is over for Town already if there is a Traitor, yet you claim Rayzor is the Traitor and that's why we shouldn't lynch him. LOL. If Rayzor was the Traitor nothing we can do would save the game for Town anyways. For us to have a chance to win, Rayzor has to be either Mafia or Town. It's hilarious that you called him the Traitor instead of Town; even you know he's far too scummy to outright call Town.

Even if you considered him to be Town, you change vote to Erandorr after no one picked up your chaoser wagon even though chaoser is your "#1 choice" and Rayzor was up for voting chaoser. Yet you try to do Erandorr to see if anyone would follow you on that too, and when no one did you switch back to chaoser. Who you didn't even suspect or mention until people started calling for your lynch.

Yeah no. We need to ensure this Rayzor lynch goes through today.
wat
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
September 07 2011 22:43 GMT
#2340
since I am convinced, that rayzor is most likely scum,
and in theory there is a 50/50 chance to kill scum tonight (if we kill anyone except me),
I won't post any further thoughts about this game until 1 minute before the night ends.
Because I don't want to give away any information to the scumteam who they should shoot.
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