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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 15 2012 06:52 GMT
#1501
GiygaS, what is your read on WBG?
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
January 15 2012 07:06 GMT
#1502
On January 15 2012 06:12 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2012 06:02 Toadesstern wrote:
could we have an update on how the election is going?

I did one manually
+ Show Spoiler +
Votes for MrWiggles (0)
Cyber_Cheese

Votes for Bill Murray (3)
Foolishness
VisceraEyes
bumatlarge
Macpo

Votes for kitaman27 (1)
bumatlarge
evantrees
Bill Murray

Votes for VisceraEyes (1)
blahz0r
Cyber_Cheese

Votes for BloodyC0bbler (7)
Meapak_Ziphh
risk.nuke
Bill Murray
GGQ
zeks
Lanaia
Cyber_Cheese
Foolishness

Votes for Protactinium (3)
Palmar
Adam4167
Kurumi

Votes for Meapak_Ziphh (0)
Jayjay54

Votes for Sandroba (1)
Nisani201

Votes for Mattchew (Void)
Foolishness
jayjay54 (Void)
Scamp (Void)

Votes for Supersoft (1)
Bill Murray



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On January 15 2012 06:08 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
On January 15 2012 06:00 Palmar wrote:
I'm still giving my support to Protactinium, I have no problem with him killing BC if only for how stupid regardless of BC's alignment his claim is.


Palmar do I look scummy to you for defending you? I mean I should look scummier for that. Can you tell me what you think the benefits / cons are for just EVERYONE who is Mason claiming now or being revealed by their mason buddy?

@Jitsu It wasn't necessarily directed towards you just towards everyone in general. For those who don't have time to read this all

VIGS :

Jitsu
[bl] Mattchew [/bl]
Opz
BC

I'm posting this because I'm sure the mafia have noticed who they are and I wonder if townies have noticed as sometimes they've been hidden in long posts. I just think its ironic that we as town have revealed possibly 4 blues to mafia for very little reason. I feel like Opz's claim + VE revealing you (Jitsu) were useless claims. I understand Matt / BC's claim, and I'd like anyone else who wants to claim to have a reason for it.


Hold up, why are you blue hunting Sheth?


They already claimed. I'm not blue hunting. If I was mafia I would have posted the list in Scumville QT. Its meant to help clear up whatever we can around those who have claimed and to keep an eye on them.

@WBG -- You don't seem to be helping town. You're making posts that say you don't like candidates and think others are scum. Yet you're providing no logic and cluttering up the thread. Posts like this need to stop :

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On January 15 2012 11:46 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2012 11:42 Lanaia wrote:
Is protac in the lead, do we know?
ugh, there's no way WBG is going to win at this point. :/

In order to get someone into mayorship who I'm not going to be all paranoid about, I'd have to vote Bill Murray. I'm not 100% sure that is the best for us, though. Then again, I really don't know much about him.
I'm actually fighting so hard with myself here.

WBG, who do you think would be our best bet right now? I'm not seeing your vote in the vote thread for some reason (unless you haven't voted which would make sense).


I haven't voted.

I'm thinking about voting BC. As I've said repeatedly, I don't like any of the candidacies. Bill Murray is a bad candidate. Who is he even going to lynch?

None of the proposed lynch candidates are any good. None of the reasons for mayorship are good either. I'd like to vote BC because he looks the most townie of the people who have run and he's the most likely to get shot as well.

I would vote for Foolishness if he actually had a chance at becoming mayor. Although, at this point, as usual he has done very little so his alignment is still unknown. Mafia will definitely shoot him n1 if he's town, though.



At least make explain WHY you're doing things. Like this :


On January 15 2012 12:02 wherebugsgo wrote:
I'm pretty sure scum want BM in office over BC.

Which probably means BC is town. Kita is scum.

dat bitch.



I'm going to be watching you bugs. I really think your scum based on what I've seen so far. Just putting that out there and now I'm going to go over every one of your posts with a good comb. Posts like this man if your town your doing it wrong. If your Mafia keep it up! Posts like this are made by someone with a huge Ego, work past it :

+ Show Spoiler +

On January 15 2012 12:33 wherebugsgo wrote:
wowowowowowow.

Alright, I was wrong. Fuck.



@Palmar -- Sorry you got lynched. This was a stupid lynch because even based on your posting you were being active. From our few games together I was pretty sure of my meta read on you being town. Take care and look forward to playing with you next time.
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
January 15 2012 07:10 GMT
#1503
Hello there BM, welcome to office. How likely do you think it that both of your Bodyguards are mafia? And how do you feel about BC shooting Palmar?
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 15 2012 07:16 GMT
#1504
God, now I can't sleep so I'll just quickly say: it's similar to what it was before. Basically, neutral. He seems a lot scummier to me when I just think "What do I think of him?" But when I read through his filter I don't find any scumslips or contradictions. I think why I believe him to be scum is that he was just almost artificially tunneling Palmar, that sounds really bad but that's one of the reasons for m logic of him being scum. I saw this especially near the end with all the lols and the youtube video posting.

Another would be shit like this:

On January 15 2012 11:08 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2012 11:04 Nisani201 wrote:
ffffffffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu i pressed post by accident...

Anyways, WBG, a case based entirely on meta IS invalid. If Palmar acts like this in D2, we can treat him like a lurker. We should all expect scumhunting from him tomorrow, but until then, the case on him is stupid.


no, it isn't.

It's not even completely based on meta. CC and Palmar just keep asserting that it's completely based on meta on the fact that I summed it up with one word, saying meta.


The reason I summed it up was to bait to see if Palmar would spin that I had no case. He did exactly that.

You don't find it weird that he wants VE in office despite calling VE bad over and over? What's the use of electing someone bad to an office that protects them? What's the use if VE would never get shot?

Why would Palmar not run for office if he's town?

Why would Palmar suddenly support Protact and provide no reason for it?

Why is Palmar not scumhunting?

Why is Palmar focusing so much on defending himself when it's only me who is attacking him? He focused on defending himself so much, in fact, that he's literally commented on nothing else. Which is not that shocking, I suppose, since he hasn't done anything to begin with.

Why do Palmar's only two non-one-liner posts contain almost 100% fluff?

None of these are meta reasons to kill Palmar, yet no one cares.

Yes, it was completely based on meta. Look through his filter, and he doesn't mention any of the shit in this post until this post, he even said stuff like: "Cyber_Cheese, but it's clear you don't actually understand how powerful meta is".

I also found some contradictions in him saying Palmar isn't scumhunting, when he's only been presuring Palmar the entire time, and he says that Palmar is just saying this is bad, with no explanation, and he does the same thing repeadtedly.

Conclusion: Leaning Scum on WBG
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 15 2012 07:17 GMT
#1505
I'm also still suspicious on Sandro and Foolishness for the same reasons as my last posts, but an added "Wanted to control BM" to Foolishness.
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 15 2012 07:29 GMT
#1506
I also meant I found no contradictions before, but now I have.
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
January 15 2012 07:36 GMT
#1507
Quite funny as miller he was acting exactly like his apparent scum meta (or so said WBG and crew).

Every time you guys went to meta it just further cemented in my mind he wasn't. If he was mafia surely he would change something up, whereas he was so unabashedly arrogant about his style it seemed clear it was either a) an intentional play to get a rise out of fellow vets and gauge their reaction, or b) he really just didn't want to deal with this nearly 60 page clusterfuck that was day 1.

Tomorrow I'll have to look through all the cases built against Palmar to see if there is actually anything to glean from this but I really doubt there is much. At the least though it should help get some reads on his accusers.
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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 15 2012 07:48 GMT
#1508
lol. I'm not scum.

Palmar played exactly to his scum meta. That's not my fault. Sure, in hindsight you can blame me for the lynch. I'll take responsibility for it. Being wrong doesn't make me scum, however. It just makes me vocally wrong.

At any rate, if you can find reasons to call me scum, go ahead and do it. I'll respond to any accusations that are put up.

wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 15 2012 07:48 GMT
#1509
the problem for me now, of course, is that no one is going to listen to me.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 15 2012 07:50 GMT
#1510
Hey Sheth.
You're welcome. I say that sarcastically, because if people had put me into office, I would have actually lynched a mafia. I don't like lynching Palmar AT ALL due to his behavior; He was an easy out for BC as a mislynch that wouldn't get him any flak. When you are in that position, you need to be less of a politician and go to war with the thread in terms of scumhunting.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 15 2012 07:50 GMT
#1511
On January 15 2012 16:48 wherebugsgo wrote:
lol. I'm not scum.

Palmar played exactly to his scum meta. That's not my fault. Sure, in hindsight you can blame me for the lynch. I'll take responsibility for it. Being wrong doesn't make me scum, however. It just makes me vocally wrong.

At any rate, if you can find reasons to call me scum, go ahead and do it. I'll respond to any accusations that are put up.


The part that is your fault is that you only considered meta.
I don't think a scum member would have pushed someone so hard with such a weak argument, so I'm not really holding it against you yet.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 15 2012 07:51 GMT
#1512
WBG, defense is overrated. You need to drop the woe is me, and help, if you're town
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 15 2012 07:51 GMT
#1513
CC, that's not true, you can use meta as an easy reason
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 15 2012 07:53 GMT
#1514
On January 15 2012 16:51 Bill Murray wrote:
CC, that's not true, you can use meta as an easy reason

Are we playing the same did? Did you see how that turned out?
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 15 2012 07:53 GMT
#1515
same game?*
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 15 2012 07:53 GMT
#1516
I missed answering something you asked, Sheth. I don't know if any of the bodyguards are mafia.
If I was mafia I would substitute, so I'm assuming there will be 2, but if BC lives long enough then we will have to look into that
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 15 2012 07:54 GMT
#1517
Rephrase that, CC, I am not following you
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
January 15 2012 07:58 GMT
#1518
Okay broski's, unfortunately I'm going to be travelling so this will be my last post until tomorrow (after day post I mean). Since I'm expected to die I'm going to post a few things about some people now, which in turn will probably further my chances of being double stacked and roleblocked tonight when the mafia team realizes I have found half their members. Unfortunately my time is very limited so I won't be able to write up a full analysis on anyone, nor was I able to look through everyone I wanted to. But hopefully someone will remember this post tomorrow!

Please remember this post, and come back to it after I die! Remember that I die night 1 a lot because I fingered a mafia day 1!

Macpo
zeks
chaosquo
evantrees
Giygas
Nisani201
Adam4167
Mr. Wiggles
Jayjay54
Jackal58
Slarder - Just pressure him and he'll reveal his true colors. Trust me on this one.
GGQ - kinda shady...watch him closely

And remember, you heard everything here from me first! I was also first to suggest Mapco as a target!
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 15 2012 08:53 GMT
#1519
On January 15 2012 16:50 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2012 16:48 wherebugsgo wrote:
lol. I'm not scum.

Palmar played exactly to his scum meta. That's not my fault. Sure, in hindsight you can blame me for the lynch. I'll take responsibility for it. Being wrong doesn't make me scum, however. It just makes me vocally wrong.

At any rate, if you can find reasons to call me scum, go ahead and do it. I'll respond to any accusations that are put up.


The part that is your fault is that you only considered meta.
I don't think a scum member would have pushed someone so hard with such a weak argument, so I'm not really holding it against you yet.


I didn't only consider meta. I summed it up as a mostly meta argument, which for Palmar is normally very strong.

At any rate, it's irrelevant now to finding the remaining scum. Unfortunately, since he flipped town.

I still suspect opz and Protact.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 15 2012 08:56 GMT
#1520
@GiygaS

I listen to you bro. Remember that game where you and Palmar fucked me up as mafia? His play was spectacular that game...he really convinced me he was a townie when I was calling for his HEAD D2. You played the fallguy to a T, not outting him at all. I was thoroughly impressed, and I'm not the only one.

Palmar doesn't do shit like that anymore. When you left, Palmar's play took a SHARP turn for the worse, and he's lucky to live past D2 these days. I thought he was scum all game too...especially when he still vouched for me for office.

I guess my point is, I think you're barking up the wrong tree where WBG is concerned. Here's how you handle that guy.

@WBG
Would you link to the most recent game where you were town and Palmar was scum?

@Cyber_Cheese
Would you point to a post with content that Palmar made during D1 that wasn't within 30 minutes of the lynch please? Failing that, could you stfu about WBG's meta-only case on Palmar?



if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
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