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here are the PMs of Mig and me:
Original Message From Mig: hm hm hm you are right I definitely do not trust you! I have played like 7 mafia games here on TL now. I don't know RoL super well but I know he can be very good if he wants to be. But often he just trolls and is useless instead. Hard to know which he is doing so far. Show nested quote +Original Message From supersoft: hm... Difficult situation, I think we will never trust each other. I won't push for your lynch right now. You are the only person, that wrote me so far. :D I'll wait what happens next. one question, are you a veteranplayer here in the TL.mafia? If you are, can you please tell me a little bit about RoL, just a few words, because I really don't know what kind of a person he is. He's hard to read for me. Original Message From Mig: If you think I am mafia feel free to push for my lynch in the thread. I don't want to know what your role is. I told you not to claim it. In fact if you actually read the thread you would see I already said in the thread no one should claim their role to anyone EVER. At this point I honestly don't know if you are completely clueless or a mafia trolling me. Leaning towards mafia. Original Message From supersoft: now it already happened. :D thank you for the information. Now I think you're mafia and try to clear me as a real green or a lying blue. Therefor, we stop talking about my role now ;-) Original Message From Mig: A) you are blue and lying - if you come out and claim blue later on after claiming green earlier the town is going to call you out for lying and there is a good chance you get yourself lynched. Lying to the town is just dumb in 99% of cases. B) you are telling the truth - now the mafia are less likely to shoot you (if they believe you) if they are trying to blue snipe which hurts the town. If you are green you should want the mafia to shoot you instead of our power roles. C) if a mafia fakeclaims they are 99% of the time going to claim VT. So by doing it yourself you are actually making the town even more suspicious of you. So if you are really town it is incredibly bad to ever claim VT, especially when under 0 pressure. Original Message From supersoft: I probably didn't read it :D sorry. But why is it so bad? Original Message From Mig: Yes I told them they were idiots. It has already been said like 5 times in the thread why claiming VT is absolutely horrible for the town. So I am asking you why you did it. The only reason I can see after it has been said over and over how bad it is, is that you are mafia. Original Message From supersoft: Original Message From Mig:
Why do you claim vanilla? Do you want town to lose? If you are mafia that makes perfect sense. why don't you ask me this in the thread? kenpachi and gtrsrs also claimed. Did you ask them the same thing? of course I don't want to lose.
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On July 18 2011 22:51 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 22:47 Curu wrote:On July 18 2011 22:42 supersoft wrote:On July 18 2011 22:15 syllogism wrote:
I'm falling into my PM game tendency of not posting my thoughts in the thread and rather letting other people do it for me. I'll have to echo Palmar on CB, but he does look like someone who is trying to contribute and can be thoughtful. Moreover, if he isn't town aligned, his posts read more like Insane Inmate than someone who has help (though "I guess I'll start accusing people" is pretty awful and could be interpreted as "my team told me to do this"). I'd rather consider him a decent vigi target as lynching insane inmates doesn't provide much in way of voting patterns.
Not liking Pyo's posts thus far, but attributing that to disagreeing with his logic/cases
Supersoft on the other hand has been completely worthless and his few posts have been scummy/anti-town. He isn't entirely new to the game, so I'm not going to let that excuse fly.
##vote Supersoft yoep, it's not my first game, but my first game with PMs. Like you said there is a tendency for not posting in the thread and writing PMs instead. Same thing for me. My VT claim was a joke btw. I wanted to point out that I know that I am blindly bandwagoning and thought it was funny if I would connect it with the task of the VTs to lynch "moblike style" as described in the frontpost. All the people that go for this little statement now, just are too lazy to really read the thread and make a real accusation. For me it's scummy if people are connected with each other on the first day. This connection may be a support in an accusation or defending the other person. Usually townies don't trusts anybody at the first day. I have to make a plan of people that are around here and I try to figure out connections between them. That will be my task for the first day. brb $20 it's me he finds! Where was all this content before you got pressured? Hmm? Before that you joke around with a VT claim ignoring the posts saying it was harmful for Town? Who have you been in PM contact with? No need to tell us what's in it, just some names that can confirm you have been doing something constructive like you are claiming. you and mig.
Whoa, that analysis was fast! Almost like you had it planned beforehand?
Hey bro, who have you been in PM contact with?
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Mig's probably PMed everyone in this thread already.
Got any PM contacts besides him?
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On July 18 2011 22:57 Curu wrote:
Mig's probably PMed everyone in this thread already.
Got any PM contacts besides him?
He said in the PM convo with Mig that Mig was the only person to contact him.
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So is mig PMing everyone? I guess the better question would be, is there anyone Mig hasn't been in contact with?
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MIG sure is trying to make friends.
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I have pmd almost everyone. Maybe like 5-10 people haven't been pmd.
I was going to post that conversation as well super. Notice how he first claims to not even be reading the thread to see where we repeatedly said claiming vt was bad, yet he knew that kenpachi and gtrsrs had claimed VT. He then proceeds to call me mafia after I yelled at him. I tell him to go ahead and push for my lynch then if he thinks I am mafia. He responds by saying no he isn't going to do that because I am the only person to write to him.
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On July 18 2011 22:57 Amber[LighT] wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 22:57 Curu wrote:
Mig's probably PMed everyone in this thread already.
Got any PM contacts besides him? He said in the PM convo with Mig that Mig was the only person to contact him.
He also said he didn't contribute in thread and explained why his posts were useless because he had been active in PM land.
So if Mig was the only person to PM Sand like Amber says, then why does he claim he's been contributing in PM land? He hasn't.
Why have nothing insightful at all except some throwaway analysis done in 5 minutes that implicates the ones putting pressure on him.
So let me recap:
-Sandsoft posts meaningless useful fluff that's anti-Town and explains his easy bandwagon vote
-Sandsoft gets called out and pressured a bit
-Sandsoft then tries to do some "analysis" and 5 minutes later his results: the two people who have been accusing him
-Sandsoft claims he's been useless and not contributing in thread because he's been busy in PM land. Hey Sandsoft, who have you been PMing bro
I think I've found my definite day 1 lynch unless he can show me who he's PMed (and get confirmation from that person).
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Ahem. By Sandsoft I mean Supersoft.
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On July 18 2011 22:42 supersoft wrote:
yoep, it's not my first game, but my first game with PMs. Like you said there is a tendency for not posting in the thread and writing PMs instead. Same thing for me.
On July 18 2011 22:54 supersoft wrote:
I won't push for your lynch right now. You are the only person, that wrote me so far. :D
Derp.
##Unvote CreamyButter
##Vote Supersoft
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For those of you who can't put together 1 and 1, Supersoft finds it so important to prove that he's working, that he's willing to lie about it.
I don't like people who lie.
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Thank you for that Palmar, I was having trouble putting 1 and 1 together. I thought it was 2, now I know better.
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Hey supersoft, I'll take my vote off you if you tell me who you've been PMing brah. I'll believe you once they come into the thread and confirm that you've been active with them.
Save yourself!
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On July 18 2011 16:05 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 12:33 Coagulation wrote:
Heres the list of newbs and vets in the game.
1. snotboogie Newb
2. Deconduo Vet
3. Kurumi NEWB LOL
4. curu Newb
5. RebirthofLegend Vet
6. Amber[LighT] Vet
7. hiro protagonist Newb
8. nisani201 Newb
9. Pyo Newb
10.Drazerk Newb
11. supersoft Newb
12. Jackal58 LOL
13. Mr. Wiggles Vet
14. prplhz Newb
15. mig Newb
16. notasmurf Newb
17. kenpachi LOL
18. Syllogism Newb
19. Palmar Newb
20. Sevryn Newb
21. ghrur Vet
22. Varysthespider Newb
23. node Vet
24, coagulation Vet
25. kavdragon Vet
26. Lucidity Newb
27. ketomai Newb
28. creamybutter Newb
29. redff Vet
30. youngminii Vet
31. liquid`nazgul Newb
32. Shraft Newb
33. cjrninja Newb
34. visceraeyes Newb
35. theawesomeall Newb
36. eternalmisfit Newb
37. zona Vet
38. gtrsrs Newb
39. ribboo Newb
40. sinani206 Newb
This list was pointless and all it served to do was belittle and intimidate the newer players from posting. To that end, what is your agenda? The only objective this post served was to discourage newer players from posting which helps mafia force sheeping, which in a game this size is a considerable problem. To this end, I am voting for you. ##Vote Coagulation
I feel like this post is trying to make a coag bandwagon while coag probably should not have marked all the newbs but only the vets anyone he didnt mark as a vet would just assume newb so to even just make a list of vets isn't very different from the list that got made. I feel like RoL is exaggerating how discouraging this post was to newbs. As a new player the list made me want to read the thread closely and try to think about it for myself instead of just relying on older players to make all the decisions and just bandwagon on them.
##vote RebirthOfLeGenD
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Original Message From Curu: Yo so you wanna lynch these guys on Coagulation's bandwagon right? Gimme yo vote bro, vote SUPERSOFT!! Show nested quote +Original Message From youngminii: hey babe absolutely not, i mostly don't take anything that happens in game to out of game Original Message From Curu:
Hey cutie, no hard feelings from WaW2 right?
On July 18 2011 23:13 Curu wrote:
Hey supersoft, I'll take my vote off you if you tell me who you've been PMing brah. I'll believe you once they come into the thread and confirm that you've been active with them.
Save yourself!
seems a little like you're trying to cover up your tracks
just posting this here for future reference (basically if supersoft flips green)
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On July 18 2011 23:16 Sevryn wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 16:05 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:On July 18 2011 12:33 Coagulation wrote:
Heres the list of newbs and vets in the game.
1. snotboogie Newb
2. Deconduo Vet
3. Kurumi NEWB LOL
4. curu Newb
5. RebirthofLegend Vet
6. Amber[LighT] Vet
7. hiro protagonist Newb
8. nisani201 Newb
9. Pyo Newb
10.Drazerk Newb
11. supersoft Newb
12. Jackal58 LOL
13. Mr. Wiggles Vet
14. prplhz Newb
15. mig Newb
16. notasmurf Newb
17. kenpachi LOL
18. Syllogism Newb
19. Palmar Newb
20. Sevryn Newb
21. ghrur Vet
22. Varysthespider Newb
23. node Vet
24, coagulation Vet
25. kavdragon Vet
26. Lucidity Newb
27. ketomai Newb
28. creamybutter Newb
29. redff Vet
30. youngminii Vet
31. liquid`nazgul Newb
32. Shraft Newb
33. cjrninja Newb
34. visceraeyes Newb
35. theawesomeall Newb
36. eternalmisfit Newb
37. zona Vet
38. gtrsrs Newb
39. ribboo Newb
40. sinani206 Newb
This list was pointless and all it served to do was belittle and intimidate the newer players from posting. To that end, what is your agenda? The only objective this post served was to discourage newer players from posting which helps mafia force sheeping, which in a game this size is a considerable problem. To this end, I am voting for you. ##Vote Coagulation I feel like this post is trying to make a coag bandwagon while coag probably should not have marked all the newbs but only the vets anyone he didnt mark as a vet would just assume newb so to even just make a list of vets isn't very different from the list that got made. I feel like RoL is exaggerating how discouraging this post was to newbs. As a new player the list made me want to read the thread closely and try to think about it for myself instead of just relying on older players to make all the decisions and just bandwagon on them. ##vote RebirthOfLeGenD
Hi Sevryn nice of you to join us.
What's your opinion on supersoft?
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##Vote supersoft
Not just one of the Coagulation bandwaggoners but just shady overall.
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On July 18 2011 23:19 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
##Vote supersoft
Not just one of the Coagulation bandwaggoners but just shady overall.
Oh, the irony
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On July 18 2011 23:17 youngminii wrote:Show nested quote +Original Message From Curu: Yo so you wanna lynch these guys on Coagulation's bandwagon right? Gimme yo vote bro, vote SUPERSOFT!! Original Message From youngminii: hey babe absolutely not, i mostly don't take anything that happens in game to out of game Original Message From Curu:
Hey cutie, no hard feelings from WaW2 right? Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 23:13 Curu wrote:
Hey supersoft, I'll take my vote off you if you tell me who you've been PMing brah. I'll believe you once they come into the thread and confirm that you've been active with them.
Save yourself! seems a little like you're trying to cover up your tracks just posting this here for future reference (basically if supersoft flips green)
What can I say, I'm a forgiving man.
Go on supersoft, tell us who you've been PMing. You get to have my vote off you, PLUS you get yongminii's vote on me. Me and Mig are who you find most scummy right? So you should be delighted to get a vote on me.
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On July 18 2011 23:09 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 22:42 supersoft wrote:
yoep, it's not my first game, but my first game with PMs. Like you said there is a tendency for not posting in the thread and writing PMs instead. Same thing for me.
Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 22:54 supersoft wrote:
I won't push for your lynch right now. You are the only person, that wrote me so far. :D
Derp. ##Unvote CreamyButter##Vote Supersoft
That makes it pretty obvious,
##vote: Supersoft
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