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Wonderful plan. Oh wait, you forgot that the list isn't infallible, I'm 80% sure theres a miller out there, for balance purposes. And a Godfather type role is probable.
Your plan would be wonderful, except if we follow it and follow your plan, and there is a miller and a mafia outside the list then we lose. I'm betting that thats the case, and I'm betting that you are the mafia outside the list. You are desperate to silence me before the town listens to me and realizes "fuck, dt roles aren't foolproof".
I'll agree to the plan on three conditons.
1.) You prove rean isn't mafia and just playing us
2.) You prove the only mafia left are on that list
3.) You prove there are no millers.
Guess what, you cannot fulfill those conditions, so I will not agree to that plan. I'll execute steff, If I find evidence that his is mafia, otherwise you are shit out of luck
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Ok GM you wanna know why there isn't a framer?
GMarshal -Role confirmed-killed kurumi, steff is in his cult
Palmar -role confirmed
Rean -role confirmed
DropBear -Meapak's death=role confirmed
stefftastiq-All his action spotting has been correct-role confirmed
Amber[LighT] -framer dog???+my rolecheck
Karshe - bombs confirm role
Cthsazsa -role confirmed by other player+my rolecheck
redFF-role confirmed
Who is a framer?
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On June 14 2011 10:48 redFF wrote:
Ok GM you wanna know why there isn't a framer?
GMarshal -Role confirmed-killed kurumi, steff is in his cult
Palmar -role confirmed
Rean -role confirmed
DropBear -Meapak's death=role confirmed
stefftastiq-All his action spotting has been correct-role confirmed
Amber[LighT] -framer dog???+my rolecheck
Karshe - bombs confirm role
Cthsazsa -role confirmed by other player+my rolecheck
redFF-role confirmed
Who is a framer?
Prove there isn't a miller or a godfather, I'll buy the absence of a framer. What rolecheck? I thought you masoned people, not checked their role?
Again theres NO WAY decon would allow a list check and no millers + no counters for the mafia, as in that case the mafia has no chance of winning from day 1.
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On June 14 2011 10:48 redFF wrote:
Ok GM you wanna know why there isn't a framer?
GMarshal -Role confirmed-killed kurumi, steff is in his cult
Palmar -role confirmed
Rean -role confirmed
DropBear -Meapak's death=role confirmed
stefftastiq-All his action spotting has been correct-role confirmed
Amber[LighT] -framer dog???+my rolecheck
Karshe - bombs confirm role
Cthsazsa -role confirmed by other player+my rolecheck
redFF-role confirmed
Who is a framer?
*growls*
*sniff sniff*
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On June 14 2011 10:51 GMarshal wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2011 10:48 redFF wrote:
Ok GM you wanna know why there isn't a framer?
GMarshal -Role confirmed-killed kurumi, steff is in his cult
Palmar -role confirmed
Rean -role confirmed
DropBear -Meapak's death=role confirmed
stefftastiq-All his action spotting has been correct-role confirmed
Amber[LighT] -framer dog???+my rolecheck
Karshe - bombs confirm role
Cthsazsa -role confirmed by other player+my rolecheck
redFF-role confirmed
Who is a framer? Prove there isn't a miller or a godfather, I'll buy the absence of a framer. What rolecheck? I thought you masoned people, not checked their role? Again theres NO WAY decon would allow a list check and no millers + no counters for the mafia, as in that case the mafia has no chance of winning from day 1.
Yeah a game with a votechecker would be imbalanced and unfair for mafia, owait, Decon did balance it, there was a mole!!!!!!!!!
PYP insane had a votechecker and no gf/miller just a mole.
The game has 2 alignment checking roles(3 if you count desk) I really don't think much balancing was done apart from adding in the mole. The mole was the balancing lol, no millers/gf needed.
It's been known I have a rolecheck for a while in the thread.
GM it's weird how as soon as I mention the possibility of you being scum you come at me all guns blazing and call me scum. OMGUS that's called lol. Nice try with the chainsaw defense/huge OMGUS but it won't work. 
So to recap, please tell me how the game would need extra balancing other than a mole. We have established there is no framer and we have now established there are no millers.
As for Rean being scum LOLOLOL.
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On June 14 2011 11:09 redFF wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2011 10:51 GMarshal wrote:On June 14 2011 10:48 redFF wrote:
Ok GM you wanna know why there isn't a framer?
GMarshal -Role confirmed-killed kurumi, steff is in his cult
Palmar -role confirmed
Rean -role confirmed
DropBear -Meapak's death=role confirmed
stefftastiq-All his action spotting has been correct-role confirmed
Amber[LighT] -framer dog???+my rolecheck
Karshe - bombs confirm role
Cthsazsa -role confirmed by other player+my rolecheck
redFF-role confirmed
Who is a framer? Prove there isn't a miller or a godfather, I'll buy the absence of a framer. What rolecheck? I thought you masoned people, not checked their role? Again theres NO WAY decon would allow a list check and no millers + no counters for the mafia, as in that case the mafia has no chance of winning from day 1. Yeah a game with a votechecker would be imbalanced and unfair for mafia, owait, Decon did balance it, there was a mole!!!!!!!!! PYP insane had a votechecker and no gf/miller just a mole. The game has 2 alignment checking roles(3 if you count desk) I really don't think much balancing was done apart from adding in the mole. The mole was the balancing lol, no millers/gf needed. It's been known I have a rolecheck for a while in the thread. GM it's weird how as soon as I mention the possibility of you being scum you come at me all guns blazing and call me scum. OMGUS that's called lol. Nice try with the chainsaw defense/huge OMGUS but it won't work. So to recap, please tell me how the game would need extra balancing other than a mole. We have established there is no framer and we have now established there are no millers. As for Rean being scum LOLOLOL.
PYPI was a terrible example of a balanced game, it was hideously broken *because* there were no godfathers and no millers. I really doubt that after seeing the scum team anally violated in PYP:I by vote lists, decon was like "nah, its cool, I'll just fuck over the scumteam again"
And the "OMGUS" is due to you providing no reasoning, but rather attacking me when I cast reasonable doubts on the lists.
Blindly depending on list checks is a path to defeat. I'm almost certain that there is a miller or/and a role with a godfather like function, if there isn't I will be astounded by the brokenness of the game.
You do realize that list checks were so broken even in games with millers that they had to be removed from the game
Now you are telling me that a single mole would balance that brokenness? BS, there is at least 1 miller, and probably a godfather in addition to it.
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Apparently discussion is dead, who needs that after all?
So, lets take a quick poll.
Who here believes that there are no millers and that we should follow the lists to our demise?
Who here agrees with me that if we shouldn't sheep a failure prone list, but rather *scumhunt*?
Are we here to play mafia? Or are we here to sheep dts?
I know what I'm here for.
So, thoughts on my analysis of DB? Is it wrong? Right? Did people just glaze over it because it has too many words?
I won't allow us to go quietly into the night, if we want to win this we cannot just go inactive!
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GMarshal I'll respond to you in a minute. I haven't roleclaimed yet so here goes.
My role is the Paranoid Paratrooper.
I can choose to spend one night in my plane, making me immune to all night actions. The first two nights that I am visited and am not in my plane, I involuntarily gun down anyone visiting me at night. I am town aligned.
I've used the first one of my gunning nights, when Meapak visited me on night 2. There is one more night which I take down anyone who visits me, plus one night when I can activate night immunity that doesn't kill my vistitors. Pretty much the only way for me to die now is via lynch, unless Palmar sacrifices himself to take me down when I'm not in my plane.
I haven't been doing fistpounding because I PM'd deconduo on the first day asking if I would kill him if I did and his reply was very vague and basically said you have to work that out. I've been backing Palmar since early in the game so I didn't want to risk killing him accidentally.
I made Barundar's role. He never used the leprechaun vote as far as I can tell so I never called him out as being Mafia because of it. I figured it would be easy to attack him when he used it to get someone over the line but he never did.
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I'm off to sleep now unfortunately. I look forward to demolishing any defense you might put forth ScumBear! ^_^
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REBUTTAL OF GMARSHAL
Gmarshal's analysis of me.
- First of all the lower activity point. Last game I did indeed post much more than this game. I was probably the most active person in the game. However, I successfully spearheaded a mislynch on AirbladeOrange, and was solely responsible for the clincher in elmizzt. I overdid it and I've tried to be more measured this game.
Not only this, I had basically no internet access for about 5 real time days. I wasn't really able to post anything meaningful on days 3 and 4.
On June 14 2011 06:29 GMarshal wrote:
Fine, I agree, let us for a moment disregard the fact that our good friend is posting *far* less than he did as a productive member of the town. And lets not even take into consideration the high probability that a Paranoid Gun Owner role would land in the hands of the mafia team, as that too is fruitless speculation.
I really don't get this at all. If you are trying to imply that I am Mafia because of my role, that is poor reasoning. Role does not equal alignment. BC had a role where he could have medic protected Mafia. VisceraEyes' role didn't exactly do good things. kitaman27 had pretty much exactly the same role as Barundar.
- The question at tnkted was not useless speculation, it was quite direct.
- The list of fistpounds came before we knew what they did. Considering how many people were getting involved it was crucial to find out what they did. Someone, I can't remember who, suggested it be done and only I had the initiative to stand up and do it.
- You say that I am avoiding being on the zodiac list. Read my quote again.
On May 31 2011 15:23 DropBear wrote:I don't mind being on there but I'm confused as to why I am 
I was unfamiliar with zodiac lists and trying to understand what I was doing on them. Noone gave me an explanation after several days so I dropped it.
- How is presenting people who I think are scummy and then presenting arguments as to why scummy? You call my analysis of kita and tnkted crappy yet conveniently don't reference them at all or say why, they are just crappy. If you want to say that I diluted the lynch too much, look at XXXIX. My day 1 scum list had 7 people on it and there were only 6 Mafia lol. This is certainly an improvement.
On June 14 2011 06:29 GMarshal wrote:Let us look at another post that piqued my interest shall we? We can call this the "association" exhibit. Show nested quote +On June 01 2011 01:52 DropBear wrote:On June 01 2011 01:25 Node wrote:
##Vote sandroba
Also, it sounds silly, but I'm pretty sure Amber is town at this point. He's said a lot with very little and is clearly trying to help us out. Ok, so you're voting because Amber's trying really hard. Sandroba is a terrible lynch. The main reason seems to be his original plan. It was against the rules but when he posted his idea it was before deconduo clarified the rules. It might not be the best plan but he's obviously trying to help. So far this actually seems like a townie post, you know the whole "bad play =/= scum" thing, he gets no town points for defending sand, as a scum love to defend townies, but he does get a logic pointHe is accused of turning quiet. Within only 2 pages of the announcement of his plan the following people told him his idea was terrible: chaos13 Eternalmisfit Rean Varpulis Palmar Mr Wiggles BloodyC0bbler GMarshal stefftastiq redFF Mataza That is a lot of negativity to swallow, why is everyone surprised that he has gone quiet? I'd pipe down too if I was told by half the town to stfu. An useless list that adds fluff to his post and a deeper justification of sand's behavior than is needed, it is once again trying to hard to seem town, after the first paragraph is when most townies would have cut their argument, with perhaps one line devoted to this, but DB needed to make his arguments look convincing. Varpulis, who tried to alter the plan is then jumped on next. He decides to "withdraw" and is immediately jumped on by kita and Palmar. Their plans might not be good ones but it doesn't make them Mafia. They are just trying to help, if poorly. Redtooth in XXXIX was an example of that. Their contributions are much larger than several players so far, even if they have gone quiet recently. Here is the gold. Read this paragraph twice, its *that* relevant. This is a preemptive defense of their mole, he was trying to head off vigilante shots before they happened, it obviously didn't work out, but its an association that is rather relevant
What on earth do you mean a deeper justification of sandroba than is needed? He was about to get lynched! What would pro-town play be, just to lie back and let him die? How is trying to make my arguments convincing scummy? Isn't that what you are doing yourself with your analysis of me?
Varpulis was in precisely the same boat. Sandroba made the original plan and got shat on. Varpulis tried to alter it and then HE got shat on. I wasn't trying to link them, they were already linked.
On June 14 2011 06:29 GMarshal wrote:
DropBear then has a nice little spat with kita, all about how kita is lurking just like in XXXIX, but the entire argument is based on meta. Its still an attempt at pushing lurkers, but I have to wonder why db chose kita, when there were more evident targets. That by itself fails to convict DB, so I suppose that so far its a null tell.
Your opening point in this flowery speech was that I am a lurker and tried to bring into account MY meta. I do it to kita and am scummy, yet you do it to me and are not? Double standards. Not only that, you finish off by saying it's a null tell. Why did you include this at all? It's just filling space.
On June 14 2011 06:29 GMarshal wrote:
This ladies and gentlemen is what we call "I don't care who gets lynched"
1.) no mention of his number 1 suspect, kita or a justification of why he no longer cares for kita.
2.) its throws some suspicion on tnkted, drawing the town into yet another worthless discussion about odd votes.
3.) Brings up Tackster who wasn't under any real focus at the time, and diverts even more votes off the main lynch targets.
Of course I cared who got lynched. I was defending sandroba like you wouldn't believe. If I didn't care who got lynched I would have let him die without defending him.
Throws suspicion on tnkted? I'd already posted detailed analysis on why I thought he was scum. He was second on my 4-person list. He still hadn't explained the vote. I voted for him lol. If you want to claim that I'm being Mafia because I suspected tnkted then you should probably highlight the much much more important things I did to try and get him killed.
Tackster was also already on my list of 4. Saying that he wasn't on the table is an out and out lie. He was very very much on the table. Meapak had been pushing him already. He came third in the final voting. As for "the main lynch targets" there were 14 people with votes on them. I dropped my vote on kita. If I hadn't that would have been 15. Claiming that I diluted the lynch is rubbish. Not only this, you voted for BC of all people. I was much better at narrowing down targets than you were.
On June 14 2011 06:29 GMarshal wrote:His following three posts are notable, I'll put all three of them in the same spoiler, for ease of reference + Show Spoiler +On June 01 2011 19:33 DropBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2011 03:14 Palmar wrote:On June 01 2011 01:52 DropBear wrote:Varpulis, who tried to alter the plan is then jumped on next. He decides to "withdraw" and is immediately jumped on by kita and Palmar. Their plans might not be good ones but it doesn't make them Mafia. They are just trying to help, if poorly. Redtooth in XXXIX was an example of that. Their contributions are much larger than several players so far, even if they have gone quiet recently. Yo bro, I just gotta clarify this shit. I aint voting on Varpulis based on his plan, everyone can make a bad plan man. If you actually bothered to read my analysis, I'm voting for him on blatant personality change from his last game. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=227186¤tpage=23#455get yo facts strait bro, I only mention the plan as supplemental to my analysis, the main reason that bitch gonna get hanged is he's acting like a pussy. Let's see it done fellas #Fistpound DropBear First of all man, sorry but I'm not going to return your offer. I am worried about what it would do. nothing really scummy about being suspicious I guess ^_^ Look at the rest of my post. It wasn't just Sandroba who was jumped on for offering a bad plan, Varpulis was as well. I'm liking the effort that you are putting in but I'm not convinced. Varpulis has been still very active and doing his best. He got timid briefly after being told he was playing poorly, so what? He's back to his normal self again now. Now theres no subtlety in this, he is brute force linking Sand and Varp, with the hope that sand will really get lynched and Varp will be cleared of all suspicion, for a while at least I would put a lot of money on both Sandroba and Varpulis being town. See, Varp, who isn't even being discussed is having credit bought for him by DB. Its a clever play, and one that will buy DB credit too when sand flips green. Very clever play, but a little too obvious.
Wiggles, what? I have to say that I strongly disagree. You are worrying me, you just seem to be jumping on the bandwagon. Throwing light suspicion on a scumbuddy so they aren't tied together later, but understating it so that theres no chance of an actual case being assembled. When I was mafia I *loved* these weak FoS, as they made cred easy to gain, just light FoS and then talk about how right you were.
Show nested quote +On June 01 2011 10:38 sinani206 wrote:On June 01 2011 07:38 GMarshal wrote:
Instead answer these questions.
4.) Of all the players with more than ten posts in the game at the moment, which seem the scummiest? 4) 10. kitaman27 acting like he was in XXXIX, where he was Mafia 12. Tackster useless theorycrafting 14. tnkted like i said above, useless 25. Torte de Lini so many posts elsewhere on TL. a purposeful lurker Nice to know that somebody agrees. I still think kita is dodgy as hell, if one of these others comes up as a candidate I will gladly switch to them. Nice switch to Tackster then right back to kita as soon as someone agrees. Again "I don't care who dies as long as they aren't a team mate On June 01 2011 19:35 DropBear wrote:
Also what's with me being on all these lists? I didn't realise I was so highly thought of.
"I am a noob please, please don't pressure me!
On June 01 2011 19:47 DropBear wrote:
Fistpound List
Returned offer by Palmar
GMarshal
Node
tnkted
Kurumi
sandroba
Offered it to Palmar without being asked
VisceraEyes
Mataza
Ignored invitation from Palmar
Amber[Light]
redFF
Meapak_Zipph
Eternalmisfit
DropBear
Complete fluff and cause of suspicion in and of itself, scum love posting lists, its an easy way to "contribute"
For the lazy 1.) Linking sand and varp to buy cred for his mole 2.) Doesn't care about who is lynched 3.) "I'm a noob, take me off those pressure lists" 4.) Light FoS on scum to distance 5.) fluffy posts
-If I was really hoping sandroba would get lynched, why did I continually fight for him? And you saying that a possible switch from Tackster to kita is indicative of me not caring who gets lynched, you are already forgetting the list of 4 people I posted who I thought were scummy. They were both on it. I was happy to vote for either because I thought they were both Mafia.
-Varp was DEFINITELY on the table, Palmar was pushing for him like there was no tomorrow. You are mistaken. I had them linked because they were both talking about the same issue. I didn't link them, THEY WERE ALREADY LINKED!
-I'm a noob yes, but I never said take me off. I wanted to know why I was on there.
-Wiggles directly attacked what I was saying. I was defending myself.
-I've already covered the fistpound list. Palmar himself was grateful for it. It was made to show patterns later once Palmar activated his ability for the same time. It was useful and I would argue still is.
Why is asking about why I'm on the lists scummy? Me being on there completely contradicted what I thought the purpose of the things was.
Your favourite post from me on VisceraEyes is so much your favourite that it doesn't get much analysis. Oh wait, probably because it was a) correct and b) was opposite to what you did by voting BC.
I clearly said that I believe Viscera was acting like a noob towny with a bruised ego. Most if not all of his actions could be explained by the fact that he was noob town being told he was shit by a veteran. I backed him and was correct. Suddenly that makes me Mafia?
What do you mean by pointing out the glaringly obvious? If everything I said was obvious, why did he get lynched?
I pointed out Kurumi was lying. You say I make no suggestion as to what to do about it. How about ignore him? Isn't it obvious that's what I think we should do?
Your link to my hiro analysis is actually redFF analysis. But whatever.
This is my analysis of hiro. I went after him because he actively defended Torte de Lini by trying to get bum lynched when he already had a bomb on him, because he was on Rean's votecheck list, because of his low activity and because of his atrocious reasoning of voting for Palmar. He not only refused to defend himself but absolutely noone argued with me. I sure didn't see you come running to his rescue.
Why were my arguments against redFF poor? You just say that they are and don't explain.
On June 14 2011 06:29 GMarshal wrote:
He's been pushing bad lynches and behaving scummily all game long, while trying to *look* pro town. Not trying to help the town, but trying to look pro-town way too hard, rather than trying to win, he has been trying to build cred while misdirecting the town.
Been pushing bad lynches? I was on Wiggles day 2, bumatlarge day 3 and Torte day 4. I was on Jackal day 5 because it was bleedingly obvious it was better for everyone to get him then vig Barundar. That's a pretty stellar record if I don't say so myself.
Trying to build town cred while misdirecting town? This is pretty rich coming from someone who managed to spearhead the PALMAR lynch over BUM of all people.
This analysis all looks HEAVILY manufactured Marshal. Your analysis contains severaI points that are completely incorrect. I have you pegged as town because of the roleblock by Torte but this is pure rubbish. You already led an atrocious mislynch on Palmar. Try harder next time.
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There is no Miller in the OP. Is it possible that there are millers in the game?
On June 14 2011 10:41 GMarshal wrote:
Wonderful plan. Oh wait, you forgot that the list isn't infallible, I'm 80% sure theres a miller out there, for balance purposes. And a Godfather type role is probable.
Your plan would be wonderful, except if we follow it and follow your plan, and there is a miller and a mafia outside the list then we lose. I'm betting that thats the case, and I'm betting that you are the mafia outside the list. You are desperate to silence me before the town listens to me and realizes "fuck, dt roles aren't foolproof".
I'll agree to the plan on three conditons.
1.) You prove rean isn't mafia and just playing us
2.) You prove the only mafia left are on that list
3.) You prove there are no millers.
Guess what, you cannot fulfill those conditions, so I will not agree to that plan. I'll execute steff, If I find evidence that his is mafia, otherwise you are shit out of luck
-Rean was saved by EM Night 3. How is there any REMOTE chance that he is Mafia?
-There is a possibilty that there are more Mafia off the list, but that would bring the total up to 8. 8 Mafia and 2 serial killers out of 33 is quite a lot of anti-town players.
-There are no millers in the OP. Why are you 80% sure there are millers?
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FUUUUUUUUUU THAT WAS MY 1000th POSTTTTTT
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On June 14 2011 13:45 GMarshal wrote:
Apparently discussion is dead, who needs that after all?
So, lets take a quick poll.
Who here believes that there are no millers and that we should follow the lists to our demise?
Who here agrees with me that if we shouldn't sheep a failure prone list, but rather *scumhunt*?
Are we here to play mafia? Or are we here to sheep dts?
I know what I'm here for.
So, thoughts on my analysis of DB? Is it wrong? Right? Did people just glaze over it because it has too many words?
I won't allow us to go quietly into the night, if we want to win this we cannot just go inactive!
I don't know, I feel kind of skeptic about there being a miller. Then again I was wrong before and your claim that there wasn't 3 assassins because of the same reason turned out to be true.
I shall have the honor of being the first to give my comments/opinions of your DB analysis?
Since you've pointed it out, it's kind of funny how DropBear continuously asked to be taken off the Zodiac list.
Although it would make perfect sense for scum to defend their mole, such as how DB was doing, I don't think he should gain scum points for it. I was doing the same thing as well because I honestly didn't get what the hell was so bad about Varp.
But other then that, the fact that he tried to downplay his skill and the way he reacted to his name being on the list (Like you said, a Townie wouldn't constantly question why their name would be on there. It's a chance to prove yourself as pro-town while having everyone's attention) and the fluffyness of his posts makes sense. Just about everything listed makes sense.
o ya the link you gave of DB's analysis of hiro is wrong. It linked to here.
It should actually link to right here.
Even though his analyzing is better than mine, I lol'd at the end of the Visc analysis when he concluded the guy likely isn't scum, even though he just wrote up a post pointing out all his scummy behavior.
Here's something to talk about that has slipped past our attention:
If Mafia didn't shoot Rean, and didn't shoot Palmar, who did they shoot.
No one?
Another thing I'd like to point out: Why haven't scum killed me yet? If Karshe was town, they would have gotten 2 townies for one bullet.
I know I know it's not a good argument but it's still something to keep in mind.
I am stuck between voting DB or Karshe.
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EBWOP: oops nevermind. Can't decide if I should read DB's post right now or go to sleep -__-
Also meant to add this in:
On June 14 2011 10:34 redFF wrote:
Scum can obviously fuck this up with nightkills but there shots will likely be focused on me/karshe/rean/Cthazsa (basically people not on that vote list). Cthazsa if you die you need to keep a level head and not pull a viscera eyes and shoot into this list
Dropbear
GM
Stefftastiq
Amber
I ordered that for you aswell, shoot the highest person, if they are dead, move down the list.
If anybody has a problem with this plan I am dying to hear it, but then you will lose because all you will be is scum desperately trying to salvage a win.
This plan is town's savior.
Just kidding. Shooting like that isn't going to get Town shit. Check Day 2 if you don't believe me.
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Well you guys better decide who I'm shooting before I shoot rean tonight, being the only DT role left.
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Some interesting points.
If rean is fucking with us, it's almost 100% chance that stefftastiq is the other scum, because he confirmed Rean's night action today, and it's results. This makes it very likely that Rean and Steff are both town.
Amber cannot frame anyone, we still need to know who you targeted tonight.
We also need to try to account for the mafia kill. For some reason the mafia KP did not land tonight, why?
I agree with lynching DropBear tonight, and will cast my vote thusly. I see no reason to doubt the Rean check, confirmed by Stefftastiq, and we should have a vast majority to check this list. Let's just start this by lynching DropBear.
##Vote DropBear
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On June 14 2011 15:44 DropBear wrote:
There is no Miller in the OP. Is it possible that there are millers in the game?
Yes
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Everyone agrees that Dropbear is the lych, no argument there, but then after that the only thing to do is shoot/lynch into that list. I love how your only way to try and stop this plan is saying there are millers and gfs. Sorry GM but you are going to have to die, because we have 2 scum out of a possible 4 and we need to keep killing that 4 until we find the 2 scum. Palmar shoot GM tonight, GM sacrifice Steff. Simple. Rean I suggest a check on Cthazsa, as the list with 2 scum will all be dead by tommorow.
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##Vote GM, so i can get his role, DB is still the lynch
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On June 14 2011 20:42 redFF wrote:
Everyone agrees that Dropbear is the lych, no argument there, but then after that the only thing to do is shoot/lynch into that list. I love how your only way to try and stop this plan is saying there are millers and gfs. Sorry GM but you are going to have to die, because we have 2 scum out of a possible 4 and we need to keep killing that 4 until we find the 2 scum. Palmar shoot GM tonight, GM sacrifice Steff. Simple. Rean I suggest a check on Cthazsa, as the list with 2 scum will all be dead by tommorow.
Stop being retarded. We're not going to shoot into a list of people just because I got the 2 mafia result, completely ignoring the chance of millers and godfathers. Secondly, use your brain and try to scumhunt instead of relying blindly on my DT checks. Cthazsa made deskscaress role, mafia killing him first night when they knew he would reveal their alignment would've been silly. GMarshal quoted Torte de Lini, which would also be silly to do as scum. Neither is very likely to be scum. I also like how you ignore Amber completely when he's more likely to be scum then anyone else by virtue of being on both lists.
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