EPTI didn't want to play SK because I'd get lynched at some point for the sake of lynching me. I had no chance of survival whatsoever.
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
I didn't want to play SK because I'd get lynched at some point for the sake of lynching me. I had no chance of survival whatsoever. | ||
GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
Kurumi is not a good measuring point of reasonable play. As much as I like the guy his SK claim was completely insane. | ||
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Karshe
United States212 Posts
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
 Now that TdLs role was brought up again, a thought crossed my mind: He has a posting restriction and as of yet has done nothing useful with his posts. Even after he was told he can post at night limitless. However, the way the role was created by Meapak it actually reveals quite a bit of information on death. It confirms "a bunch" of Town and 3rd party players, if he flips scum. And if he flips green, it draws questions about the people who didn´t claim to be roleblocked(if there are any). I don´t know exactly how much information we get, so this is a gamble. Keep in mind that he only blocks town players if he is scum and both kinds scum and town if he is town. Actually, I would demand him to post his role description in full. If he can´t make heads nor tails of his role, maybe we can. | ||
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
On June 07 2011 03:37 Karshe wrote: Urge to kill Panadain is rising... If You're day vig shot Bum so we can lynch Palmar safely,or the other way around. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
I will, until further notice, retire my gun for tonight. I won't be shooting again unless I have a really good reason to. | ||
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
On June 07 2011 03:30 GMarshal wrote: Oh, please do point out why in the nine hells of bator a SK would ever claim, I'm eager to hear your reasoning. Why don´t we ask Kurumi, since he did. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
On June 07 2011 03:37 Karshe wrote: Urge to kill Panadain is rising... Urge to kill Pandain Kill Panadain Panadain ![[image loading]](http://idesigniphone.net/wallpapers/52002.jpg) Don't you dare. | ||
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PaqMan
United States1475 Posts
On June 07 2011 03:39 Kurumi wrote: If You're day vig shot Bum so we can lynch Palmar safely,or the other way around. Hey, I actually agree with Kurumi on this one. | ||
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Karshe
United States212 Posts
On June 07 2011 03:39 Kurumi wrote: If You're day vig shot Bum so we can lynch Palmar safely,or the other way around. I'm not a day vig unfortunately. | ||
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Eternalmisfit
United States643 Posts
On June 07 2011 03:40 Palmar wrote: My vote is sticking to Bumatlarge, as he claimed SK, and is thus confirmed anti-town. Kurumi did the same thing, but I think it's more likely Bumatlarge is actually mafia than Kurumi being mafia. In any cause, GMarshals sacrifice should default to Kurumi this night, so hopefully we'll be rid of both. I will, until further notice, retire my gun for tonight. I won't be shooting again unless I have a really good reason to. It seems rather convenient that you retire your gun since you are unable to get 4 fist-pounds. | ||
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
:7 | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
As I said Kurumi is not an example of good SK play, he essentially decided to play pro-town. The measuring stick you use to judge bum's play as third party or town, or scum is entirely different | ||
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Eternalmisfit
United States643 Posts
Palmar -> 0/2 hits on scum, -> 2/2 hits on DT -> Un-needed RPing on day1 to confuse/derail town about posting restrictions -> Fake role-claim either on D1 or D3 -> Most likely fake kill claim on Chaos13 as well (I believe Kurumi's claim because he claimed instantly after the Day post) -> His current role-claim of being an unlimited night-hit vigi + veteran seems so imba compared to other roles that he is near obviously fake claiming. (Other roles for comparison: BC - random target medic, Wiggles - 1 time bulletproof + 2 bullets, Torte - random target RB, Node - KP who dies if he doesn't shoot scum by 3rd night, Sandroba - role framer, Desk - random KP kill lynch/reveal killer, prplz - 1 time redirect & 1 time lynch proof, Jackal - mason who posting restriction, Amber - doggie with post restriction, Kurumi - loses his role KP block after one time save, Kita - Vote redirect, and so on) -> Deliberately did not follow town instructions of hitting Bum or Kurumi and going after Chaos13. -> It was painfully obvious that Chaos13 was DT and Mataza pretty much pointed it out for everyone. Despite it, he claimed to have not read the thread. (This from a person who quotes Mataza's every second post and calls him scum). -> Day1 vote - does not care who among tnkted, VisceraEyes, Varpulis dies and switches his votes around. On Day1, I doubt any townie is so confident about 3 scum targets (two of which were playing town). It seems like he wants to gets townie lynched. -> Due to someone's awesome role, I am quite confident that there is most likely one scum in the VisceraEyes vote-list. And no, I will not reveal how I got that information. If this much anti-town play is not scummy, I don't know what more can be scummy. ----- Also, when Palmar flips scum, he confirms at-least one more scum and potentially two more scum based on my analysis. In the rather unlikely event that he flips town, it confirms 2-3 people as town to me. The people in suspicion are redFF and Sinani but I won't make my case against them till Palmar is dead since most of the town is posting on a need-to-know basis and I will do the same. | ||
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
1KP mafia 1KP Palmar 1KP Pandain 1KP Karshe 1KP Gmarshal Does this sound good enough? | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On June 07 2011 03:48 Eternalmisfit wrote: In any case, here is the synopsis of my claim against Palmar. Palmar -> 0/2 hits on scum, -> 2/2 hits on DT -> Un-needed RPing on day1 to confuse/derail town about posting restrictions -> Fake role-claim either on D1 or D3 -> Most likely fake kill claim on Chaos13 as well (I believe Kurumi's claim because he claimed instantly after the Day post) -> His current role-claim of being an unlimited night-hit vigi + veteran seems so imba compared to other roles that he is near obviously fake claiming. (Other roles for comparison: BC - random target medic, Wiggles - 1 time bulletproof + 2 bullets, Torte - random target RB, Node - KP who dies if he doesn't shoot scum by 3rd night, Sandroba - role framer, Desk - random KP kill lynch/reveal killer, prplz - 1 time redirect & 1 time lynch proof, Jackal - mason who posting restriction, Amber - doggie with post restriction, Kurumi - loses his role KP block after one time save, Kita - Vote redirect, and so on) -> Deliberately did not follow town instructions of hitting Bum or Kurumi and going after Chaos13. -> It was painfully obvious that Chaos13 was DT and Mataza pretty much pointed it out for everyone. Despite it, he claimed to have not read the thread. (This from a person who quotes Mataza's every second post and calls him scum). -> Day1 vote - does not care who among tnkted, VisceraEyes, Varpulis dies and switches his votes around. On Day1, I doubt any townie is so confident about 3 scum targets (two of which were playing town). It seems like he wants to gets townie lynched. -> Due to someone's awesome role, I am quite confident that there is most likely one scum in the VisceraEyes vote-list. And no, I will not reveal how I got that information. If this much anti-town play is not scummy, I don't know what more can be scummy. ----- Also, when Palmar flips scum, he confirms at-least one more scum and potentially two more scum based on my analysis. In the rather unlikely event that he flips town, it confirms 2-3 people as town to me. The people in suspicion are redFF and Sinani but I won't make my case against them till Palmar is dead since most of the town is posting on a need-to-know basis and I will do the same. -> 1/2 hits on scum. It may have been lucky, but it's still scum. -> RPing cause I felt it'd be fun, if anyone's actually mad about that... I really don't know what I should say. -> Fake roleclaim on D1 with pro-town intentions, someone pointed it being convenient that I'm retiring my gun tonight. But if people really want me to confirm I can still shoot... I can shoot. -> Read better, Kurumi called right away that Chaos13 had been my kill. He was correct. I shot Chaos13. -> My role is kinda imba, I realize. You might wanna consider having me DT checked or whatever, but killing such a strong town role because of a mistake, seems just silly. -> Didn't follow town instructions cause I was afraid of being bussed. I said it, I'm sorry. -> I somehow missed it, and I doubt Mataza is scum. -> If you know about a vote-check list, then sure, try me. You will fail, but you can cross me off and go for someone else. And the biggest thing. What sane mafia would claim killing such a useful role? I'll say it again. I could've claimed roleblocked, I could've claimed not shooting, and I could've claimed a blocked hit or something, but instead I admit the mistake, cause that's the closest thing to help I can offer the town after failing. | ||
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
So far sounds fine.  Did Bum claim roleblock again? Depending on the number of roleblocked people we have more kp to worry about.  Also Karshe is the only unclaimed killpower on there. Would you be so nice and explain why, Karshe?  | ||
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
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Karshe
United States212 Posts
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
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