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kitaman27
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
 Why even sign up?+ Show Spoiler + No offense ON, different strokes for different folks I guess | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
From looking through the thread, Originalname was about option E on the list, after Node, Incog, KillerSOS and Chaoser(in no particular order). How did you end up with ON? | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
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OriginalName
Canada1140 Posts
On May 21 2011 12:07 Radfield wrote: I have so much loathing in my heart for anyone who would pick a village idiot role Why even sign up?+ Show Spoiler + No offense ON, different strokes for different folks I guess My original plan was to actually gun for one of your no--pick roles and play it by ear, but i got busy and didnt want to sub out so picked VI to still allow me to play to win. ^_^ + Show Spoiler + No offense taken i played like a coward. | ||
infinitestory
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infinitestory
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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
On May 21 2011 11:55 Radfield wrote: Care to walk us through your thought process Wiggles? I was thinking, GM/Caller/FW were town. From GM's list, I was thinking there was a frame anyways. I personally believe Incog is town, so if there was no frame, then Node would be the scum there. Node claimed inventor, and said this: " If you look towards the beginning of the day, I drop a couple of hints that I have the role." I found this post: On May 19 2011 13:45 Node wrote: Seeing what happened to Scamp, I wouldn't blame them if they're town and don't claim. So, I figured I'd let him live for now. Worst comes to worst, we do an alignment check/role-check and hold him accountable for all inventions. Now, for ON. His entire play this game, has mostly involved only posting one-liners, and not much else besides calling for killing players with no reasoning. Contrast this to some of his posts from XXXVIII, where he was green: + Show Spoiler + On April 11 2011 07:53 OriginalName wrote: MiG Analysis Postcount 8/863 Total (1 pregame post) Experience Level: Newbie Nothing inherently wrong here: excited states he wants a protown mayor. Still looking protown here, doesnt add anything that his first post doesn't. This first point should be stressed more, who cares if we elect an assassin sure that one is pro town BUT ALL THE REST OF THEM NEED TO KILL POSSIBLY TOWNIE BODYGUARDS TO GET HIM! And there will be crapshoots by the assassins which may hit either alignment but since townies outnumber scum by so much (as is balanced) the chances of them reducing our town count before we lose signifcantly more than we gain by the assassins is a great reason why Protact should not have BGs. Im still not seeing the scuminess here. Adds on how medic protection on Prot would also be another reason to spray and pray and cause more blue sniping for assassins, this leaves reds to kill outspoken townies as well as assassins may handle their blue snipes for them. A wild DrH approaches! MiG ran! Can't Escape! He states his reason for regurgitating information is that he is slow. Im still of the mind that even if he is restating opinions of others at least hes posting SOMETHING. He's sheeping really hard along with town ---> Do note that this is not always a scumtell and while it can be used to base an arguement off of it really doesn't mean anything without other tells along with it. HOWEVER he is also playing the n00b card alot and while it is true I want to see more of this analysis out of him before i truely call him all out scum. His last post is correcting a misspelling of his name. So: Mig is: Sheeping Doesnt want an assassin in a position of power. Wants a Town mayor (Don't we all?) Stressing he is new. I think hes more of a Newbie Sheeping Town than Scum On April 11 2011 08:07 OriginalName wrote: My reason for voting GM is that I want to keep DrH out of office for this exact reason. Its not that hes a bad player or anything it's because hes fucking aggresive! The last thing we need is somebody who is mayor to make a last minute rash decision and lynches town. Especially when our original suspect turns out to be scum. On April 11 2011 09:20 OriginalName wrote: Thanks for being sane Coag ^_^ Also redFF the reason im restating something is because SOME PEOPLE *cough* are not getting the picture Protact and scumhunt his ass off and I wouldnt get an honest shit about most of his opinions, and neither should you. Im merely picking THE ONE CANDIDATE that is actually feasable in my mind. Kav just has too much heat on him to deserve 2 bodyguards at this point. DrH i have my worries towards but in my mind hes still a better choice for a pardoner then an Assassin, do note ASSASSINS ARE NOT TOWN I dont care if he decides that he cant backstab us HES NOT TOWN, he could be fakeclaiming red to try to get into an advantagous position what does that mean HES STILL NOT TOWN! a TOWNIE MAYOR is better than a NON-TOWNIE MAYOR Pleas go back and note the difference between TOWN and NON-TOWN (ie SCUM). Those were all taken from Day 1 as well. Strong opinions, analysis, general usefulness. Now contrast this with Insane 2, where he was 3rd party with me. There, he did a lot of one-line posting with some slightly bigger posts interspersed as well, while generally lurking and trying to hide from the public eye. He's following the same pattern of lurking and spam in this game that he was there. This led me to believe that he was likely Red. | ||
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OriginalName
Canada1140 Posts
On May 21 2011 12:13 infinitestory wrote: ON counting this as a win would be like counting this as a win > >_> Note the spoiler. + Show Spoiler + GO TOWN! | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
I agree with everything caller said here. On May 21 2011 11:03 Caller wrote: What the hell is going on we have a list of people that we can both purge of mafia and clear There is at least 1 mafia, maybe two, on that list. If its 1 mafia, its either GMarshal, or Mafia + a frame. If its 2 mafia, GMarshal is almost certainly not mafia, because it'd be friggin stupid for mafia to create a situation where its 2/6 instead of 1/5. There is absolutely no reason for us not to get on this list. If none of Node, Incog, and Chez is mafia (well, in addition to me, ofc) either I'm the worst player in the history of the world or GMarshal is scum. Flamewheel gets pretty much cleared that way. If only one of them is scum, then obviously flamewheel is not clear. But if two fo them are scum, and this is by far my most likely feeling, given that mafia would not do something that bold this early, then we have a cleared list of Flamewheel and GMarshal. I'm perfectly willing to die to clear off two DT roles like that, or to snag a scum DT. I'm not sure why Node, Incog, and Chez (the latter of whom is recently smelling like shit) are all running around like headless chickens trying to pass the blame onto people not on a list with guaranteed mafia as well as potential clears. Unless, of course, they're scummy. Which I think they are. Why are people voting for KillerSoS? He's definitely scummy as shit as has been already pointed out, but he claimed Tracker. At the very least, we should let him run his mouth and see what he has to say, because we can milk him for information regardless of whether he's scummy or town. Besides, killing him doesn't tell us a single goddamn thing. If we kill scum, we should do so in a position where we can scoop up other scum in the bargain, not a lone wolf and then have to start from square one all over again. My commitment is still pretty shitty. Someone (I think Radfield) requested a chaoser analysis so I'm working on that right now, but real life jumped on me and I'm still struggling to deal with it. Voted Incog because we should be getting that list cleared up. We're in a position to clear people completely, and get rid of some mafia, so why aren't we using it? It'll be hard to get off all the votes on Incog right now as much as I would like to be lynched and Incog shot (to ensure my honesty), so King should use his shooting on me or Node. I don't know what role Node is, but I'm fairly expendable, and once we have a clear list we have guaranteed night actions. In fact, assuming my gut reads of flamewheel is right, and assuming GMarshal isn't lying, we have at least 1 cleared investigative role that can be saturated with protection (I refuse to believe there are no medic roles). I did do some chaoser stuff but now I have more time, I can go into more depth. Still think we should kill chaoser, but we do need to lynch in the list right now. I believe node is actually the copycat, but this doesn't help him as town, since it would make perfect sense for mafia to kill scamp first for inventor, and then flamewheel if that fails. I need to read into node's posts more, because information wise it isn't looking good for him. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On May 21 2011 12:14 Mr. Wiggles wrote: I was thinking, GM/Caller/FW were town. From GM's list, I was thinking there was a frame anyways. I personally believe Incog is town, so if there was no frame, then Node would be the scum there. Node claimed inventor, and said this: " If you look towards the beginning of the day, I drop a couple of hints that I have the role." I found this post: So, I figured I'd let him live for now. Worst comes to worst, we do an alignment check/role-check and hold him accountable for all inventions. Now, for ON. His entire play this game, has mostly involved only posting one-liners, and not much else besides calling for killing players with no reasoning. Contrast this to some of his posts from XXXVIII, where he was green: + Show Spoiler + On April 11 2011 07:53 OriginalName wrote: MiG Analysis Postcount 8/863 Total (1 pregame post) Experience Level: Newbie Nothing inherently wrong here: excited states he wants a protown mayor. Still looking protown here, doesnt add anything that his first post doesn't. This first point should be stressed more, who cares if we elect an assassin sure that one is pro town BUT ALL THE REST OF THEM NEED TO KILL POSSIBLY TOWNIE BODYGUARDS TO GET HIM! And there will be crapshoots by the assassins which may hit either alignment but since townies outnumber scum by so much (as is balanced) the chances of them reducing our town count before we lose signifcantly more than we gain by the assassins is a great reason why Protact should not have BGs. Im still not seeing the scuminess here. Adds on how medic protection on Prot would also be another reason to spray and pray and cause more blue sniping for assassins, this leaves reds to kill outspoken townies as well as assassins may handle their blue snipes for them. A wild DrH approaches! MiG ran! Can't Escape! He states his reason for regurgitating information is that he is slow. Im still of the mind that even if he is restating opinions of others at least hes posting SOMETHING. He's sheeping really hard along with town ---> Do note that this is not always a scumtell and while it can be used to base an arguement off of it really doesn't mean anything without other tells along with it. HOWEVER he is also playing the n00b card alot and while it is true I want to see more of this analysis out of him before i truely call him all out scum. His last post is correcting a misspelling of his name. So: Mig is: Sheeping Doesnt want an assassin in a position of power. Wants a Town mayor (Don't we all?) Stressing he is new. I think hes more of a Newbie Sheeping Town than Scum On April 11 2011 08:07 OriginalName wrote: My reason for voting GM is that I want to keep DrH out of office for this exact reason. Its not that hes a bad player or anything it's because hes fucking aggresive! The last thing we need is somebody who is mayor to make a last minute rash decision and lynches town. Especially when our original suspect turns out to be scum. On April 11 2011 09:20 OriginalName wrote: Thanks for being sane Coag ^_^ Also redFF the reason im restating something is because SOME PEOPLE *cough* are not getting the picture Protact and scumhunt his ass off and I wouldnt get an honest shit about most of his opinions, and neither should you. Im merely picking THE ONE CANDIDATE that is actually feasable in my mind. Kav just has too much heat on him to deserve 2 bodyguards at this point. DrH i have my worries towards but in my mind hes still a better choice for a pardoner then an Assassin, do note ASSASSINS ARE NOT TOWN I dont care if he decides that he cant backstab us HES NOT TOWN, he could be fakeclaiming red to try to get into an advantagous position what does that mean HES STILL NOT TOWN! a TOWNIE MAYOR is better than a NON-TOWNIE MAYOR Pleas go back and note the difference between TOWN and NON-TOWN (ie SCUM). Those were all taken from Day 1 as well. Strong opinions, analysis, general usefulness. Now contrast this with Insane 2, where he was 3rd party with me. There, he did a lot of one-line posting with some slightly bigger posts interspersed as well, while generally lurking and trying to hide from the public eye. He's following the same pattern of lurking and spam in this game that he was there. This led me to believe that he was likely Red. I understand why you thought he was scummy. He was scummy. But you never pushed for him at all, or ever brought his name up as a suggestion for your hit. Killer is also scummy, as is chaoser. Many people are arguing that Incog is scummy. However, you decided to kinda hit someone of your own choosing. This isn't super scummy, but surely you see that unless ON flipped red, it throws some suspicion on you. | ||
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Radfield
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
On May 21 2011 10:22 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Vigging you and having you flip green doesn't solve anything. All at does is make your voters hop over to Node, or KillerSOS, without the need to provide any substantial reasoning. If I were to shoot into you/Node, it would be because one of you are likely to be red. If I don't shoot into you, I'd effectively be doing house cleaning, getting rid of non-contributing, scummy looking, lurkers like KillerSOS or ON. I mentioned it, others did too. That's also why I said, when talking about KillerSOS, "other lurkers". | ||
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Chezinu
United States7466 Posts
It is my final hour.. I just want you to know that I will never give you up! I won't tell them who you are! I will never let you down! I will Be Strong! and stand where I am. I will never run around and desert you! Be a Martyr! I will never hurt you! Be Brown! I will never give you up! | ||
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infinitestory
United States4053 Posts
On May 21 2011 11:53 Radfield wrote: On Incognito: Incognito is town. There are no two ways about it. I've thought about this some more, and theres just no way he's scum. Looking back on Day 1, Incog was sitting with about 5 votes, decon with 3 and Barundar had just gotten 2 after my case against him. The idea that Incog would try to save himself by building a case against Kavdragon, a player with zero votes, is ludicrous. I had given him a clear route to attack Barundar(he even agreed with my analysis at the time) and a concerted effort against Decon would probably have more success. The idea that he would go and pick a random townie with zero votes to build a case on is seriously stupid.... unless of course he was town, and actually thought that. This is false, by the way. When Incog began building his case on Kavdragon, Caller had already made a couple posts against Kav and voted for Kav. As for Node, I trust his Inventor claim. The breadcrumbing looks pretty solid, especially the post Wiggles pointed out. Whether he's town or not - I'm undecided. But what matters is that now that we know Node is the new Inventor, we know who to hold responsible for the inventions. Inventor is a pretty transparent role, as has been stated many times. Let's get some inventing going once this lynch is done. | ||
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Ace
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infinitestory
United States4053 Posts
On May 21 2011 12:34 Ace wrote: hmmmm something fishy is going on in that voting thread. Just like yesterday with the last minute wagon on Kav, now everyone is "convinced" KillerSOS is the right lynch over Incognito. I don't like this at all. yeah because the people who think Incognito is town have been the most active in the last couple hours... it's as simple as that, I think. | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
1) He's on the list. Hate on that all you want, but GM is town, and it would be stupid to ignore what he gives us. 2) I'm not really familiar with how incog plays, so even though he has been helpful, I can't ignore his less then fair accusations. 3) I don't find the others on the list besides node to be too scummy. Chez is already going to die, caller has been brash, but he obviously cares about the game eough to help somewhat, and he always makes good points. Unless someone can point something out, FW is town. If you want to vote node, I'll follow suit, but I'm not going outside the list. | ||
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