Pick Your Power Insane! - Page 65

Ace

United States16096 Posts

May 21 2011 03:37 GMT

#1281

And I think if it's that simple then some of them are definite Scum. If KillerSOS gets lynched and doesn't flip Scum that will be the second day in a row the same thing happened.

Radfield

Canada2720 Posts

May 21 2011 03:38 GMT

#1282

On May 21 2011 12:26 bumatlarge wrote:
Radfield I see you keep tossing around suspicion, but I think you should give your major suspects at the moment. Dont think you're scum, but I would find it helpful to look at who you suspect at the moment to help my own list.

Gladly, though as I admitted earlier, I don't have a long list for scummy players. Rather, I have a list of pro-town players I am almost sure about, which is generally how I play.

I'd be happy to elaborate on any players, but I doubt this is really the time for that. Tomorrow after the lynch though.

Solid Townies:
Meapak_Ziphh/Dreamflower
GMarshal
Barundar
Fishball
Radfield

Incognito

Very-Likely Town
Wiggles
Deconduo
bumatlarge
Kurumi

Maybe Town:
flamewheel
Caller

Scummish:
Chaoser
KillerSOS
Node
Kitaman27

Foolishness I've been swinging back and forth from prob-town to scummish quite a bit, so I've decided not to think about him for a while. The rest I have reads on in various states. Several I have deliberately left my reads off the list for the moment.

Looking at it, I'm stretching my scummy list a touch here with the last two additions.

infinitestory

United States4053 Posts

May 21 2011 03:38 GMT

#1283

Also, as of right now, KillerSOS has surpassed Incognito for lynch lead, 11-10, unless my arithmetic sucks.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6789 Posts

May 21 2011 03:38 GMT

#1284

On May 21 2011 12:37 Ace wrote:
And I think if it's that simple then some of them are definite Scum. If KillerSOS gets lynched and doesn't flip Scum that will be the second day in a row the same thing happened.

Rather than making insinuations would you care to let everyone know who the scum are in this group?

Fishball

Canada4788 Posts

May 21 2011 03:40 GMT

#1285

I'm taking my vote off KillerSOS.
I don't like what I see, and like I said, if I'm still alive on Day 3, we'll talk more.
I'll be placing my vote on tnkted for now.

bumatlarge

United States4567 Posts

May 21 2011 03:44 GMT

#1286

Balls, we should lynch node instead

EVERYONE VOTE NODE, do we know what rose colored glasses are going to do? No, only the user and inventor does. So what do we make of when we see "Sunday morning suprise!" or "tea leaves and vinegar"?

I don't like it at all, a person everyone feels is scummy is getting away with a role thats too powerful to be in mafia hands, even for just a day. I'll switch once someone on killerSOS, (he claimed tracker god dammit...) gets off, because killerSOS is a phenomenally retarded lynch. Mafia at work tut tut.

Radfield

Canada2720 Posts

May 21 2011 03:44 GMT

#1287

On May 21 2011 12:28 Mr. Wiggles wrote:

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On May 21 2011 10:22 Mr. Wiggles wrote:

On May 21 2011 10:13 Incognito wrote:

On May 21 2011 05:45 Foolishness wrote:

On May 21 2011 05:24 Ace wrote:

On May 21 2011 05:07 Radfield wrote:

On May 21 2011 04:34 Ace wrote:
@GMarshal: If we don't lynch Incognito then who from the remaining players on the list is the second Scum? We have to clear that out first. Does ANYONE else on that list appear Scummier than Incognito? If so, vote for them.

I'm not trying to be a dink here, but I don't fully understand why we need to clear the list out. I understand we need to eventually, but why right away, right now? We have the information, so it can wait for us to deal with it until we're ready. Our ultimate goal is to kill the mafia, so if targeting players on the list doesn't get that done the best, then we let it lie for now. No?

No one really has a anti-town read on either Caller or flame, GMarshal seems town aligned, Incog seems town to a large portion, and Node doesn't seem particularly scummy. It seems to me that waiting a night cycle and putting some investigations on those remaining 5 is a prudent course of action.

If mafia want to shoot players off the list, great. Better them than us.

Also, GMarshall, it's a bit ironic that you mention no one is coming to Incogs defense, because actually quite a few players are. Myself, Barundar, yourself, tnkted, dreamflower and maybe a couple others. Mind you, in my mind those are almost mostly 'lock-solid townies'.

We clear it out because we know 2 out of 6 are scum. Why would we go another direction when we already know where to look? That makes no sense.

Secondly a "large portion" of town hasn't claimed Incog is innocent, especially looking at the voting thread so that point is false. If you don't have an anti-town read on Caller or flame, believe GMashal and Incog are town, and that Node doesn't seem Scummy then who does that leave?

Odds are even better because it's 2/5. So far Chaoser is the only one that sheds doubt upon the validity of the 2/5 (more due to mafia intervention with a framer than he doubts GMarshal). With all the nice KP roles for the mafia I find it hard to believe they would pick framer. Especially since if they wanted to hide themselves they'd be picking the GF roles instead of framer.

As what Ace said before, we need to clean up the list now because the odds are better than trying to hunt in the town pool. I don't see how you can make an argument against this, especially since it's only day 2 (it's not like we got 5 days of analysis to try to pin down mafia).

Anyone who tries to vote elsewhere or make analysis on other people than the 5 (6) in the list need to be looked at carefully once the list is sorted through. All you're doing at the moment is distracting the town. If we just focus on the list we can hopefully nail the 2 mafia without suffering town casualties. These paragraphs and paragraphs of analysis against myself, chaoser, KillerSOS are just cluttering up the town at the moment, and the people making these are mafia in my head because they are just trying to get the town off focus from the list.

If you think I'm mafia, or chaoser is mafia, or whoever is not on the list, great. I'm all for throwing analysis around. But geez just wait until the list is cleared up and stop cluttering the thread. Summarize your suspicion in one sentence and focus on someone on the list.

And before you jump on me for not doing this, I have wanted to kill Incog since yesterday, same reasons as Ace has stated, and that hasn't changed. If there still is a mafia on the list after Incog and Chez are dead I want to kill Node.

Mr. analysis and scumhunting is content to go with "the odds" and chill on the sidelines. This is too funny.

On May 21 2011 05:51 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Incog's nuke also doesn't do too much to his credit. Let me say this: Killing Chezinu, like KillerSOS or other lurkers, is easy. It was an easy kill, because town was expressing suspicion of him and a desire to kill him with my king lynch. As well, he hasn't contributed much if anything to town so far, and was mostly dead weight. So, killing him doesn't take much thought to do.

That said, I don't think I'll kill Incog right now. I'd rather leave him alive, and at the mercy of the lynch.

Actually, I think you should vig me right now so that you get more information that comes out of the scramble of all the invalid ##Vote Incognito votes. Its pretty clear that you will get no information from my lynch. Its easy for mafia to jump on either side of the wagon. If you vig me, people will actually be forced to give reasons on why they are voting for the other suspects. And Ironically you want to kill KillerSOS, who you say is a easy. Why go for the easy kill? Do the right thing and kill me instead and force people to give reasons for their votes on the other suspects.

Vigging you and having you flip green doesn't solve anything. All at does is make your voters hop over to Node, or KillerSOS, without the need to provide any substantial reasoning. If I were to shoot into you/Node, it would be because one of you are likely to be red. If I don't shoot into you, I'd effectively be doing house cleaning, getting rid of non-contributing, scummy looking, lurkers like KillerSOS or ON.

I mentioned it, others did too. That's also why I said, when talking about KillerSOS, "other lurkers".

You're right. Fair enough.

On May 21 2011 12:33 infinitestory wrote:
This is false, by the way. When Incog began building his case on Kavdragon, Caller had already made a couple posts against Kav and voted for Kav.

As for Node, I trust his Inventor claim. The breadcrumbing looks pretty solid, especially the post Wiggles pointed out. Whether he's town or not - I'm undecided. But what matters is that now that we know Node is the new Inventor, we know who to hold responsible for the inventions. Inventor is a pretty transparent role, as has been stated many times. Let's get some inventing going once this lynch is done.

You're right too. I missed that, but I think my point still holds some validity. That was a whopper of an accusation at Kavdragon when he had multiple other targets to go after. Also, I completely agree about the Inventor.

My posts are getting sloppier and sloppier. It's way past my bedtime, but I figured I needed to stay up for this one.

bumatlarge

United States4567 Posts

May 21 2011 03:45 GMT

#1288

On May 21 2011 12:40 Fishball wrote:
I'm taking my vote off KillerSOS.
I don't like what I see, and like I said, if I'm still alive on Day 3, we'll talk more.
I'll be placing my vote on tnkted for now.

Vote node you ball-less infidel.

Ace

United States16096 Posts

May 21 2011 03:45 GMT

#1289

On May 21 2011 12:38 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:

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Rather than making insinuations would you care to let everyone know who the scum are in this group?

hold on cowboy. Unlike you guys I do things bit by bit. The reason we are in this slight state of confusion is because everyone wants to throw out so many scum accusations. Patience.

infinitestory

United States4053 Posts

May 21 2011 03:46 GMT

#1290

For me, this is simple. I think Incognito is scum despite any martyrdom he's done in the last 24 hours; there are too many contradictions in his play. I want to see Node and KillerSOS prove/carry out their roles.

bumatlarge

United States4567 Posts

May 21 2011 03:46 GMT

#1291

15 minutes fuckity shitibles. Forget it just kill incog hes probably scum.

Ace

United States16096 Posts

May 21 2011 03:48 GMT

#1292

On May 21 2011 12:44 bumatlarge wrote:
Balls, we should lynch node instead

hah. It's interesting now that you mention it since I also glossed over it. A major suspect claims inventor and there isn't a fuss? v_v

I've got a gun but I think I need to use my role check on someone else tonight.