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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
April 12 2011 00:23 GMT
#1261
On April 12 2011 09:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Can blue players be chosen for bodyguards?

unofficially, no, that'd be silly.
www.cstarleague.com | Love is like playing the piano. First you must learn to play by the rules, then you must forget the rules and play from your heart.
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6788 Posts
April 12 2011 00:24 GMT
#1262
I don't know how BB is planning on selecting BGs, I'll ask him whenever he appears
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
April 12 2011 00:25 GMT
#1263
On March 26 2011 03:53 BrownBear wrote:

BODYGUARD:
You are one of two random townies that will be selected night 1 to become Bodyguards. As long as you are alive, neither the Mayor nor the Pardoner can be targeted by night actions of any kind. You have no special powers other than that. Both the Mayor and the Pardoner know who you are, as you are protecting them.


@Darth

Also where the hell have you been? You have like 3 posts in the thread.
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Kavdragon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1251 Posts
April 12 2011 00:27 GMT
#1264
On April 12 2011 09:23 DarthThienAn wrote:
DrH, the only problem I have with you being mayor is that you're guaranteeing us no accountability. The "I do what I want" attitude as mayor won't help us win the game. Sure, you dodge the influence of the mafia, but that also means you're relying solely on yourself to win the game...


This. Did you learn ANYTHING from salem, Dr.H? We relied on a few and it killed us. This has been brought up time and time again. We cannot rely on a few people, you have to get the town involved.
I'm currently on an indefinite hiatus from TL =(
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
April 12 2011 00:28 GMT
#1265
kk im back and reading up.

What time does voting end?
Kavdragon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1251 Posts
April 12 2011 00:29 GMT
#1266
Oh, and Vote: Gmarshal

Not a good idea to vote for the person who is set on lynching you unless you want to die.
I'm currently on an indefinite hiatus from TL =(
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
April 12 2011 00:30 GMT
#1267
How am I relying solely on myself to win the game? I mean obviously town discussion will influence me but I'd never adopt a policy of "mayor must vote with the majority"

The mayor is not the only player in this game. Every town aligned player must bring it on themselves to do their own analysis and help guide the discussion toward killing scum. Just because I'm not going to vote how everyone else wants me to vote does not = town relying on just me.

If you sheep me and rely only on what I say and do that's a choice YOU make. Don't make that choice. I'm making the choice not to sheep with the majority and do my own scumhunting. Everyone in this game should do the same thing.
RIP Aaliyah
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
April 12 2011 00:33 GMT
#1268
Well, I'll be frank. I don't like DocH. He comes off right off the bat as an asshole that was acting aggressively to draw responses, as some of you have stated (kav in particular) in your posts.

However, I am not going to let something so trivial deter my vote. He also taught me something, albeit small, most of you attempting to help have not by pointing out that my defense was not very town-like. I'm very confident that, after reading Doc's posts, DocH is green.

Though I disagree with his first lynch (kav), I feel like a more experienced townie in a mayor position would be more beneficial. I have not been able to read his past games- and no one answered my questions- so I'll take the word from a few of you that DocH actually does have an aggressive town meta in a few of his games.

With that said,
##vote DoctorHelvetica
Kavdragon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1251 Posts
April 12 2011 00:36 GMT
#1269
On April 12 2011 09:33 Conversion wrote:
I don't like DocH.
##vote DoctorHelvetica


Scum. >
I'm currently on an indefinite hiatus from TL =(
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
April 12 2011 00:42 GMT
#1270
On April 12 2011 09:36 Kavdragon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2011 09:33 Conversion wrote:
I don't like DocH.
##vote DoctorHelvetica


Scum. >


Just cause I don't like someone doesn't mean I should let it affect my decision on what I believe is best for town.

no hard feelings.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 12 2011 00:43 GMT
#1271
I'm leaving shortly. I voted for Protactinium
Not because I want him as mayor but because I want him as Pardoner.
I am hoping 3 or 4 of you will switch your votes from GMan to Proact to make him the pardoner.
Life can only kill you once.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 12 2011 00:44 GMT
#1272
GMarshal, have you decided on a lynch candidate? Now might be a good time to tell us. Since mafia is keeping the voting so close, it might be interesting to see how your decision impacts the voting results.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
April 12 2011 00:47 GMT
#1273
I'm torn between AirbladeOrange, OriginalName, M0nster and whatever the trolls name is.

Probably AO though, on my gut, as some player around here are so fond of saying
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Kavdragon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1251 Posts
April 12 2011 00:49 GMT
#1274
On April 12 2011 09:47 GMarshal wrote:
I'm torn between AirbladeOrange, OriginalName, M0nster and whatever the trolls name is.

Probably AO though, on my gut, as some player around here are so fond of saying


I'd lynch OriginalName over Airblade. Day one reads are hard, so lynching the person who is less active is a good idea. My take, anyways.
I'm currently on an indefinite hiatus from TL =(
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
April 12 2011 00:54 GMT
#1275
On April 12 2011 09:49 Kavdragon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2011 09:47 GMarshal wrote:
I'm torn between AirbladeOrange, OriginalName, M0nster and whatever the trolls name is.

Probably AO though, on my gut, as some player around here are so fond of saying


I'd lynch OriginalName over Airblade. Day one reads are hard, so lynching the person who is less active is a good idea. My take, anyways.


There are still three hours left, so theres plenty of time for one of them to come in here with a groundbreaking and epic post that reverses my stance on one of them.

I'm leaning Airblade, but I'm still thinking it over, again 3 hours is plenty of time.
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Kavdragon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1251 Posts
April 12 2011 01:09 GMT
#1276
On April 11 2011 03:46 redFF wrote:
Protactinium is the only person that has impressed me so far and the only person i can tell is not scum, that said, votes are subject to change.


This is a sentiment that RedFF takes very quickly. He trusts that Protact is town right from the get go. That is NOT a townie reaction, nor is a noob reaction. A new player who is townie would be quick to question things like this, and while he may eventually come to the same conclusion, there's no way that a townie would reach certainty this quickly. His certainty betrays hidden knowledge, knowledge that only scum would have.

On April 11 2011 03:51 redFF wrote:
Yeah Doch seems to be posting a lot without really saying much, whilst being overly aggressive to people with little reasoning.
FOS: DoctorHelvetica


Up to this point (and beyond for a while) he has displayed the same characteristics that he is condemning Dr.H for. Your own FoS back onto you. You are trying to look like you are contributing, and it's not working.

+ Show Spoiler +

On April 11 2011 04:56 redFF wrote:
I compiled a little list on inactives/lurkers
Metalface-no posts since sign up
Ream- no posts since game started
Lattrommi-is he even playing??? was signed up by someone else and hasn't posted
TranceStorm- lurking hardcore
lemonwalrus- hasnt posted since day 1 began
milkyst- no posts since sign up
The_Roist- just posted above me for the first time XD
Jaminz- no post since sign up
DarthThienAn- no posts since day 1
M0nsterChef- hasn't posted since day 1, has 14 posts so could just not play.
Serejai- no posts since sign up


He complies a list of inactives, but it's early in the day. No one needs to see the inactives that early. Another of many ploys to look like he's contributing. A few posts later he complains about everyone ignoring this out of place list, and posts it again. It's funny, because this fits Ver's profiling for a new scum player almost exactly. Right down to the out of place list. (See: Ver's analysis of XXX)

On April 11 2011 05:11 redFF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 05:09 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
im not pro-protact at all, that's just my read on you right now

i mean it's day 1 so these reads are shitty but i think the scum team is:
kavdragon
mib
aidnai
jackal58


and some other people idk, thats just a baseline guess i'm really only feeling good about kav and mib at the moment


So if DrH gets hit night one we have a pretty good mafia list.


So if [redFF] flip scum we have a pretty good innocent list. It's an odd thing to say when you've FoS'd him not too long ago. Why would you guess that mafia would shoot someone who is scum?

On April 11 2011 05:38 redFF wrote:
btw this is fun as fuck and i will be playing tl mafia for quite a while ^^


I actually consider this a scum slip. Mafia have the funnest time day one. Townies are usually interested, but not really having fun till they start getting near the lynch deadline. But perhaps that's just me.

+ Show Spoiler +

On April 11 2011 06:38 redFF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 06:35 kitaman27 wrote:
On April 11 2011 06:34 M0nsterChef wrote:
##Vote: Gmarshal


This guy is voting without posting.

List of inactives
Metalface-no posts since sign up
Ream- no posts since game started
Lattrommi-is he even playing??? was signed up by someone else and hasn't posted
TranceStorm- lurking hardcore
lemonwalrus- hasnt posted since day 1 began
milkyst- no posts since sign up
The_Roist- just posted above me for the first time XD
Jaminz- no post since sign up
DarthThienAn- no posts since day 1
M0nsterChef- hasn't posted since day 1, has 14 posts so could just not play.
Serejai- no posts since sign up

Thin we have found a newbie mafia?


The list returns! Still out of place. Also, lol at his guess that the mafia are all found in that. He quotes this again to bring attention to the list yet again, and to FoS M0nster. He still hasn't given any opinions. He's tunneling this inactive list, and bringing it up over and over without even bothering to update it. This reaks of scum.

He later slightly modifies his plan to tunnel those mostly inactive people that voted for Gmarshal.

On April 11 2011 10:27 Coagulation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 10:22 redFF wrote:
On April 11 2011 10:15 kevconsim wrote:
i dont think there is a scum bandwagon for GM. I think people trust him more. I think other people who havent played before are seeing others endorse him and jumping on.


Well i didn't say it was a scum bandwagon,you said that, just a bandwagon. and that is what i mean, there are sheep right now.




Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 08:42 redFF wrote:
On April 11 2011 07:49 kevconsim wrote:
I think i have decided that the safe bet is too put gmarshal in their.

##Vote Gmarshal for mayor


Oh yeah that just happened

throwing it out there right now
I THINK GMARSHALL IS SCUM, as well as a number of his voters including M0nsterChef, Kevconsim and Original name, although everyone in my first gmarshall vote count post is officially fos by me


WAT?


Then we have this contradiction pointed out by Coag. Refer to my guide if you don't get why this is scummy.

On April 11 2011 22:06 redFF wrote:
If ON flips red it confirms basically everyone thought of as red so far as red. If he flips green(highly unlikely) Then it clears a shit ton of people and we have a few people who would look very red, myself included. I think ON is the lynch which would give us the most information, regardless of how he flips.


On April 12 2011 07:58 redFF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2011 07:51 Kavdragon wrote:

My Thoughts on the Game



First and foremost, the spam needs to come down. We need to be able to read through this thread to scum hunt, and the amount of spam is making it really hard to read. Obviously a good idea, right? So why is everyone still spamming? A few people on the top of my spam list are

RedFF (For posting a lot of lists pointing at people, and asking tons of questions of people, but not actually contributing as much)

Gmarshal (For posting more than is healthy. I know that you have a lot of things to say, but when you have that much to say you need to learn how to condense it. You don't have to reply to every single person when almost everyone is talking to you.)

Dr.H (Not bad like RedFF, but in the similar vein as GMarshal, I think that you can condense what you are saying. If there are three people who say something scummy, wait a bit, then put your responses into the same post or something.)


I don't think anyone is used to having 50 pages to analyse by day one. I'm certainly not. I've often been told that it's useless to analyse on day one, and I've disagreed with it before. As daunting a task as it is, I agree with Dr.H that there's plenty of material to get started on. Sure it won't be as reliable as the material that we will have by day 3/4, but there's no better time to start analyzing than NOW.

If you wait, it won't happen, so I'm going to ask EVERYONE, even those who are bad at it, to try thier hand. By this time, the only people who don't have scum reads are scum. Take someone who you think is scummy, and analyse them.

Right now my main concern will be inactive/lurker types, because they are the higher priority for lynching.


I get your point about spamming, i will try to tone it down. Sorry if I'm spamming a lot, just trying to learn/catch scum. That said, this post doesn't really have any content.

Agrees with my sentiment that there should be less spam, and then proceeds to post more frequently than he has all game. Wtf mate?


RedFF has been tunneling, spamming, and not contributed to the thread yet. He has posted that he thinks that Protact and dr.H are good candidates, but simply mirrors others arguments when he gives his reasons. He has yet to really come up with any good reasoning that is his own. He fits a clear pattern for new scum.

RedFF is RedFF
I'm currently on an indefinite hiatus from TL =(
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
April 12 2011 01:12 GMT
#1277
On April 12 2011 09:33 Conversion wrote:
Well, I'll be frank. I don't like DocH. He comes off right off the bat as an asshole that was acting aggressively to draw responses, as some of you have stated (kav in particular) in your posts.

However, I am not going to let something so trivial deter my vote. He also taught me something, albeit small, most of you attempting to help have not by pointing out that my defense was not very town-like. I'm very confident that, after reading Doc's posts, DocH is green.

Though I disagree with his first lynch (kav), I feel like a more experienced townie in a mayor position would be more beneficial. I have not been able to read his past games- and no one answered my questions- so I'll take the word from a few of you that DocH actually does have an aggressive town meta in a few of his games.

With that said,
##vote DoctorHelvetica


WHAT THE FUCK.
You disagree with lynching kav but your gonna vote him anyway.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
April 12 2011 01:13 GMT
#1278
HOW THE FUCK CAN YOU GUYS BE OK WITH LYNCHING KAV NIGHT 1?
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
April 12 2011 01:14 GMT
#1279
WHY THE FUCK DON'T YOU PROPOSE SOMETHING BETTER
RIP Aaliyah
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
April 12 2011 01:19 GMT
#1280
HOW ABOUT ANY OF THE COUNTLESS SCUMMY LURKERS?
HOW ABOUT NOT A SEASONED ANALYZER AND ACTIVE POSTER DAY 1? ANYONE WE DONT HAVE META ON OR SOMEONE USELESS TO TOWN?

DOES IT REALLY NEED SAID?
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