TL Mafia XXXVIII - Page 20

I know you aren't arguing for that, but I think that if we choose a mayor his scumhunting/analysis skills should be the first reason we choose him and his leadership the second.

I dont think I fully agree with you Kav, leadership is vital, but I'd much rather have a strong analyst than a strong leader who is just wrong.

On April 10 2011 04:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote:


what happens if the mafia doesn't run

On April 10 2011 05:00 GMarshal wrote:


Then its a win/win situation for us, mafia just gave up a shot at two really, really useful roles. I'm having a hard time envisioning a scenario where the scumteam dosn't run for mayorship. If for nothing else, if they get a guy up there he is DT proof for a while and they get the names of the BGs

On April 10 2011 04:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote:


what happens if the mafia doesn't run

On April 10 2011 05:01 DoctorHelvetica wrote:

and it's a lose situation if they tunnel lynches onto all the mayoral candidates using the exact same argument you just used

On April 10 2011 04:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
what happens if the mafia doesn't run

On April 10 2011 05:01 Kavdragon wrote:


Then we have a bunch of analysis that says "soandso" is town. Confirming townies is very useful as well.

You seem to be working hard to put down my efforts, but the only thing I see you doing is encouraging spam, an putting down others. Why don't you put forth any of your ideas?

On April 10 2011 05:05 chaoser wrote:


Then all the better. The statement is said to scare mafia not to do stuff. We put the fear of it in front of them and they'll think twice about it. Though I doubt in this game not a single mafia will run. Being pardoner is too juicy a role to get that's relatively easy to get. In XXXVII even LSB posting the list of people by ranking scared me enough not to kill off everyone in tier 2. Obviously I was playing way too safe since all I wanted to do is get to LYLO and use my "townieness" but the same thing applies here. My bluff in insane led to much WIFOM for Kav and in the end iGrok's posts pushed him to call my bluff but if he didn't then I would have pulled way ahead.

On April 10 2011 05:17 chaoser wrote:
Well I do understand where that thinking is coming from, I think mayor having 3 vote powers is fucking huge and way stronger than some perceived power to manipulate town. It's basically the ability to make 4 people have to change votes to get someone else lynched (3 to tie, 1 to push lynch into the lead). Also by having someone who is a good leader+analyst can keep the rampant fingering throwing down to a minimum. I think at most we'll spend day 2 looking at the candidates and once that's passed we can, as town, consciously focus on post-by-post analysis and not fall into the trap that happened in insane mafia which was just gut hunting with almost 0 percent analysis.

On April 10 2011 05:20 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
basically all it is, is a potential for a faster LYLO. the mayor can really only abuse his vote power if the mafia is great at splitting bandwagons and if the mayor uses his votes to save somebody, you better bet they're both in the hotseat

Is your main point that we shouldn't focus on the mayor candidates after the mayor has been selected because mafia can just not run and then make us focus on them unnecessarily?

On April 10 2011 05:28 chaoser wrote:


Yeah so sorry, what are we arguing over again lol? Seems like all we're doing is talking about the inherent risks of the mayor campaign and the end conclusion is that we should vote mayor is town, a mafia mayor needs to play well or he will be discovered. I figure only good players are going to be running, and in serious contention, for the mayor spot anyway. I doubt the mafia team will send in someone that they don't think can handle the pressure if there is any.

Is your main point that we shouldn't focus on the mayor candidates after the mayor has been selected because mafia can just not run and then make us focus on them unnecessarily? Then can't mafia also run and then say we shouldn't focus on the mayor candidates since mafia could have not run and so on? It's a big WIFOM that really leads nowhere except to create a WIFOM conversation topic that people will come into arguing about basically nothing since both sides are possible.

That being said, I'd rather be safe and look at the mayor candidates for at least Day 2. To not look at them would be absurd and bad play. If we sniff out anyone, all the better. If not, we place them on the back burner and if something does come up at a later day then we come back to it.

On April 10 2011 05:42 DoctorHelvetica wrote:


yeah that would be absurd not to look at them but if we're still arguing about mayor candidates on day 3 then something bad has happened and it's probably because the mafia wanted it to happen

i can basically agree with what you said here

On April 10 2011 01:51 Robellicose wrote:


I'd probably agree with this statement. Unless someone red/black goofs up and it's horrifically obvious that we can lynch them. And whilst I've not played/read a game that used a pardoner, we'll have to be pretty damned careful that we get one of us into the position - imagine a successful lynch of the godfather being blocked by some asshole mafia pardoner. man that would piss me off...