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On March 26 2011 06:31 Rean wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2011 06:23 annul wrote: and bumatlarge: if you and the entire town wants me dead, give me one night to live. vote me out day 2 or something. there is something i need to do. first you want to be voted out day 2 at the earliest and now your fate is sealed? the fuck?
i said to give me one night to live. if you want to vote me out day 2 then go for it. i am acting with the presumption that this is going to happen over any protest i have, so i need to play the game knowing this.
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....your defense is rather peculiar. If you're town, why would you not want to be dt'd? It'd save your ass for a while if you flip town, and electing the godfather into item-game seems foolish to me.
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one night, then all is revealed. <3.
im very close.
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actually, never mind. im retarded. the play wont work until day 3 anyway. oh well.
if you want to DT me, go ahead.
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I would like to also request DT checks me We need confirmed town in item game
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On March 26 2011 06:38 Rean wrote: ....your defense is rather peculiar. If you're town, why would you not want to be dt'd? It'd save your ass for a while if you flip town, and electing the godfather into item-game seems foolish to me.
Actually we don't even know how the item game is won...can any of the IG people tell us? Is it last man standing? Or stealing all the items? what is it? If your item is stolen can you steal from others? What are the rules for the item game?
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last faction standing i think
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You know, we can dt check the item game players without waiting for night. There is a way... Dunno if I want to reveal it quite yet however. We'd have to wait for all the players to be online at the same time anyway.
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its last faction standing. LSB confirmed yesterday
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On March 26 2011 06:49 tnkted wrote: You know, we can dt check the item game players without waiting for night. There is a way... Dunno if I want to reveal it quite yet however. We'd have to wait for all the players to be online at the same time anyway. What? Are you hinting at some kind of power or is it an actual plan? If its a plan I cant quite fathom what it is, if its a power consider the possible presence of godfathers, also if you are ousting the fact that you have some kind of mass dt power at this point in the game I will frown upon you.
Also so people dont forget Amber[Light] and kev have yet to post (and I *will* be making frequent reminders until such a time as they post)
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On March 26 2011 06:19 bumatlarge wrote: The lynch candidates as of now: annul orgolove lemonwalrus iGrok deconduo
I noticed this and that you provided some reasons for most of the other guys but no reasoning behind me being on the list. (Should I assume you are just using the reasons that tntked brought up?) As it is difficult for me to fight against invisible foes, could you please update with some of your reasoning behind your suspicions of me so that I can try to put your fears to rest?
I get that you said you were going to work so I don't expect you to respond quickly but I'm just making a bunch of posts right now and want to get this one out of the way.
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I dont have any mass dt power or anything, its a plan.
I'm really hesitant to use it right now though, because its kind of a one-and-done sort of trap that relies on people be unaware of it before its sprung. Its been laid carefully however. I'm just not certain that day 1 is the time to use it. Lets give it some time, and if nobody can come up with a confirmed (or nearly unanimous confirm) i'll reveal it later.
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tnkted we really need to do that asap if your not making shit up
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Nah, theres no time limit on it, all the pieces have been laid already. I would advise item members to hold off on talking to each other for a few hours, though I doubt it will upset anything.
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does anyone have thoughts on my first analysis in like 5 mafia games? :S
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+ Show Spoiler +On March 25 2011 23:32 tnkted wrote:We could also put some pressure on lemonwalrus. As a matter of fact, lets analyze lemonwalrus. Show nested quote +On March 17 2011 18:48 Lemonwalrus wrote: /in if you are even still letting people in?
It is my first time, but I promise to read the rules thoroughly after class today and come prepared. He's a noobie. A green noobie (such as myself) would be excited about the game, and would be posting a lot. A blue noobie would sit back and lurk. We know he isn't a blue noobie because there aren't any in the item game. Therefore... Show nested quote +On March 24 2011 11:39 Lemonwalrus wrote:On March 24 2011 11:37 Jackal58 wrote: It's all sitting there in black and white.
Actually it is black and baby-blue. This is tl. Well this was an astounding contribution. Actually, GM called him out on it: Show nested quote +On March 24 2011 11:47 Lemonwalrus wrote:On March 24 2011 11:40 GMarshal wrote:On March 24 2011 11:39 Lemonwalrus wrote:On March 24 2011 11:37 Jackal58 wrote: It's all sitting there in black and white.
Actually it is black and baby-blue. This is tl. A wonderful contribution, so what do you think of the current candidates lemon? Are any of them worth voting for? Well, I think that the 'vote or no vote for day 1 lynch' platform is a moot point. Someone running with a day 1 vote could easily be mafia, since mafia would have a good shot at tipping the vote, especially now when there is no real suspicion on anyone. Then again they could easily be not mafia and just want to use the vote as a way to win the popular vote to make a vote for them seem like a vote for fairness. Similarly, someone running no day 1 vote could easily be mafia since, obviously getting a free kill day 1 is good for mafia. But they could easily be not mafia and just trust their own mafia sniffing capabilities better than that of the town in the case of a vote. So basically, as of right now, I have not seen any compelling reasons to vote for anyone, I'm gonna wait to see how the debates continue and vote for whoever I think has the strongest ideas for further down the road. Idk, this is my first game though, so maybe I'm thinking too hard about it. Waffling. He doesn't have an opinion. To give him credit, this is early in the game, but still he hasn't contributed anything. If he was really a noobie townie he'd be falling over himself trying to contribute something. But he doesn't, and whats more, his reasons for not contributing are very telling: he claims hes a noobie! Show nested quote +On March 25 2011 03:09 Lemonwalrus wrote: Sorry about the one-liners from before...it is my first time, I didn't realize that was inappropriate. I promise to make all future posts of mine painfully and needlessly verbose.
As far as the bum/not bum vote, I think bum is the best bet for the town for reasons that have already been discussed at length. (the biggest one for me being that I think if he wasn't blue by now one of the real blues would have surely counter-claimed) (If you are a blue and therefore know that bum isn't, please, there is no reason for you not to counter claim) So unless someone gives one hell of a compelling reason for me not to I intend to vote bum.
As far as the irc channels goes, well, gather round fellas, because I may be new to mafia, but I am an old hand at irc. I think having an irc for this is a very bad idea. Basically, it is just a more fast paced version of the forum which, on the one hand i know we all think 'well that is good it gives the scum more of a chance to fuck up and reveal themselves when they are under the gun' but the thing is, everyone will fuck up sooner or later. I'm sure if we do an irc channel literally everyone that participates will, sooner or later, say something that convinces someone that they are scum. That is what happens when you are able to share information without thinking hard about it first. (for instance, look at my signature...do you think any of those guys (besides aesop) would have said those things if they had had time to re-read it before clicking a post button?)
Also, I see a major component of the irc channel debate will be 'x isn't active in irc, he must be scum' or 'x is too active in irc, he must be scum' basically wifom madness imo, since with imperfect data either choice will put suspicion on a player and, since town outnumbers scum, more suspicion floating around should benefit scum.
So I vote no on irc and yes on bum, and the above are my reasons. Why is he using his noobiness to explain why he isn't contributing?! A true green noobie would be trying to contribute his ass off (like I am right now) instead of coming into the thread, posting unhelpful bullshit like this. Also notice how one small paragraph in that 'significant post' as chaoser calls it immediately below is actually related to the topic at hand (bum), and the rest of it is devoted to an entirely tangential vote on the IRC channel. I'd say, purely line for line, only a forth of this post is actually analysis, and its analysis that had been done by six other players by the time he posted it. Then, when he gets called out for waffling, he posts this. Show nested quote +On March 25 2011 03:17 Lemonwalrus wrote:wtf the more i post the more i get crap for not posting, what do you guys want from me ![](/mirror/smilies/frown.gif) ((((( Also I hadn't even thought of the impersonating people on irc thing that GMarshal brought up in his post. That is yet another convolution that irc will bring to the process. (although if we caught someone impersonating it would make it pretty obvious they were scum...so a potential for reward if a scum were to be so bold as to impersonate someone) I think the real problem with the irc is that there is such a thing as too much information when you are trying to make a decision. If we have pages and pages of posts and pages and pages of irc logs to go by, 2 sides could make bulletproof arguments for one person being scum/not scum, and it could be almost impossible to tell who was right with any sort of objectivity. Also....picking through irc logs sounds really tedious. I know that has no importance in the function of the game, but I just feel it will be less fun with a mountain of irc logs...and I kinda want to have fun. IRC IRC IRC. No discussion on bum, no discussion on kav. He has no thoughts other than IRC (which a noobie mafia would obviously not want) and a rehashing of a rehashing of bums position. And this is his last significant post in this topic! his final post says something like, "I decided not to post until roles were given out. The last ten pages in this topic could have been replaced with a kitten playing with yarn." I wasn't convinced he was mafia before I started this post but I am now. BURN THE WALRUS ![](/mirror/smilies/got-hooligan.gif)
Ok, so I know some other people have addressed this and you pulled back a bit on the next page but I still want to address this myself since I'm getting a "FUCKING POST MORE GODDAMNIT" vibe from the thread, and I think I can help shed some light on this.
First of all, as someone (I think it was Jackal) said, just because I don't play like you play doesn't make me auto-scum. I'll admit that this was daunting at first, but I think I've officially gotten the hang of this game, and you should see my post count shoot up from here on out. (although I still will be afk for hours at a time because god damnit guys I'm a college student seriously I have other things I need to do sometimes holy fuck get off my back)
Yes, I talked about irc, and yes, scum would be against irc, but I think (for the reasons that I laid out in my post) that it was also bad for town. Don't ignore the things that I said and then say "He only talked about x" as if that is a reason for me to be scum. But the irc thing is an entirely dead subject at this point so I don't want to harp on it as that will just derail.
As for the one liners, please, I beg you guys that are focused on those, go back and look at when I made them. You see all the super useful posts surrounding them? Oh wait you don't? Well that is because nothing of any importance was happening at the time i made them, just people making snap judgements on others as scum before there was anywhere near enough information to make those claims, some of my one liners were before the game even started.
Ok, so enough of me feeling like my back is against the wall, I've defended myself as much as I feel I need to until I know bum's reasons for putting me on his hitlist, now I think I'm gonna share some analysis of my own.
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On March 26 2011 07:07 Kenpachi wrote: does anyone have thoughts on my first analysis in like 5 mafia games? :S
It was pretty good, I found myself agreeing to a lot of the points.
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Back~
Well the next few posts from iGrok are meh. not worth posting about really.
Also doing this helped me understand whats going on in the game a whole lot better. ![](/mirror/smilies/smile.gif)
##Vote Bum
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Bum needs to have a list prepared of the people he wants confirmed. Can you write one up bum? In order of most important to check to least important to check. you don't have to post it yet, i just want to know that you have it.
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