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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
March 25 2011 20:36 GMT
#1081
I say we go after the less active ones:

Darm, why don't you speak up? There's going to be a lot of scrutiny of item player's. The only way a weak red/black who isn't confident in their play would act is by lurking.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 25 2011 20:36 GMT
#1082
On March 26 2011 05:35 annul wrote:
you do realize town doesnt get to pick the lynch today right

Yep.
Life can only kill you once.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
March 25 2011 20:39 GMT
#1083
annul i posted my list of people who are scummy above you
Rean
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands808 Posts
March 25 2011 20:44 GMT
#1084
On March 26 2011 05:18 Coagulation wrote:
PEOPLE LOVE LIST'S
1. RebirthOfLeGenD
2. Jackal58
3. OriginalName
4. Kenpachi
5. deconduo
6. Kavdragon
7. darmousseh
8. bumatlarge
9. GMarshal
10. Coagulation
11. orgolove
12. chaoser
13. Meapak_Ziphh
14. annul
15. kevconsim
16. Mr. Wiggles
17. CubEdIn
18. GGQ
19. ilovejonn
20. Amber[LighT]
21. BrownBear
22. Lemonwalrus
23. Rean
24. tnkted
25. Tackster
26. Lanaia
27. iGrok
28. Beneather
29. Insanious
30. Eiii



if red means mafia: tackster and darmousseh are both IG players.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
March 25 2011 20:45 GMT
#1085
Red = SCUM in general
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
March 25 2011 20:55 GMT
#1086
I'm not super active mostly because of work, but I will respond to pms from people in the item game. I'ts important we identify greens so we can work together.

I'm trying to decide who to vote for, but it looks like it doesn't matter since bum is leading. We can't lynch today, no one has really done or said anything interesting. On day 0-1, theres always too much speculation going around. The whole annul thing is probably blown out of proportion and i'm also talking to people in the item game since it's important to make sure that the baddies don't get their hands on those items.


The item game people
1. Coagulation - is not as crazy as normal.
2. darmousseh -thats me!
3. Jackal58 - not really anything interesting yet
4. annul - obviously of interest, but probably is town
5. Tackster - no idea
6. Lemonwalrus - nothing interesting


Finding the two baddies is very very important and we will need to focus lynch targets probably on that group, but at the same time if the mafia is smart, they will leave people there alive until the last moment in order to drag out the amount of time spent on deciding who to lynch. The 6 of us are obviously high night kill targets too so identifying the baddies is the most important thing right now.

My gut says coag is probably not town and that one of the newer players is also not town.

Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
March 25 2011 21:14 GMT
#1087

On March 26 2011 05:18 Coagulation wrote:
PEOPLE LOVE LIST'S
3. OriginalName





Do you have a problem with me sir coag?
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
March 25 2011 21:15 GMT
#1088
@darmousseh: How is coag not acting as crazy as usual? I was suspicious of him early on.
@coag: how did you come to the conclusions on that list?
@ lemonwalrus: i didn't have a problem with posting kittens and things myself, if you remember. My suspicions were based on the fact that you hadn't contributed anything meaningful analyitically to the town yet.
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
March 25 2011 21:18 GMT
#1089
and @annul: what are your thoughts on the IG players?
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
March 25 2011 21:19 GMT
#1090
Alright I have to work, but I'll be home around 12am EST. I've read through and I like the direction of the thread now. Remember this is the process I will be using now and for the rest of the game.

1 - Present analyses, information and accusations. Behavior > information as of right now.
2 - I will discuss the most convincing arguments with my circle. We are all town here, so unless you want to insult my team's intelligence, I suggest you at least trust our opinion.
3 - We will present our verdict! Town of course can readdress anything, and after this lynch, will be the ultimate decision.

The lynch candidates as of now:
annul
orgolove
lemonwalrus
iGrok
deconduo

Meapak has a nice analysis on annul, but maybe comment on his latest posts as well, I would like to see what you think of those.
Kav put up iGrok and deconduo as potential scum, and I'd like to hear more on those.

Hopefully when I come back I can organize this a little better. (Sorry annul, if my circle still thinks you are the best lynch, Im going to listen to them)
Together but separate, like oatmeal
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
March 25 2011 21:21 GMT
#1091
Oh and RoL, since you agreed with Kav's scum thoughts, why don't you help him out and analyze who you think is scummy. I don't see much reason to wait for day 2 to get you scum-saw revving
Together but separate, like oatmeal
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 25 2011 21:21 GMT
#1092
On March 25 2011 14:54 iGrok wrote:
Okay, I thought I was done posting but I decided to check before I went to sleep. Won't be able to in the morning.

Kavdragon, excellent points. I completely agree with you (except that I'm scummy - I look forward to reading your reasons). @Bumatlarge/Tackster, I think we should lynch annul. A) Lynch an item-gamer. B) Lynch an anti-town. Annul has been nothing but a distraction, and even if he is town (which I doubt), he's better off dead imo.

lol. iGrok looks the most scummy to me imo. Hes acting like a 1st time player when he stated he was a veteran which ends up being SCUM

Hes not reading carefully enough
+ Show Spoiler +
To further give solid opinions, a few people I want on that list include:
Annul: Reasons stated above.
Deconduo: General scummy feel (Obviously I need to explain this further, but I'll do that when i get the time.)
iGrok: More scummy play, including apposition to clearly town plans, putting down of plans without putting forward alternatives, and fanning arguments. (More on this to follow)


+ Show Spoiler [iGrok and some of his posts] +
In Chronological Order after alignments were sent out:
On March 24 2011 13:25 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2011 13:06 annul wrote:
i already claimed green. i am saying you are not a blue, not that i am a blue.

you have been given ALIGNMENT pms, not role pms.


Annul, thats stupid reasoning. Alignment pms always have details about the alignment's group powers (if applicable). Do you have any evidence to the contrary?

Show nested quote +
bumatlarge:
And annul, if I am not blue, then a real blue can come out and counter claim me. If there is a reason why he would not, then enlighten me. My alignment PM gave me more then my alignment. That is all I will say until I am mayor.


A blue counter-claiming would be nice. a confirmed scum lynch d1 would be nice ^^

Lets be more obvious

On March 24 2011 13:11 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2011 12:53 bumatlarge wrote:
Well, I think I already slipped up and it is fairly obvious if you lookat my posts that I am part of the police force. I've mulled it over and the only thing we really have to lose is outing one member (me) to everyone. So let me go over why it's clear you should vote for me.

1) I am the most confirmed you can get. If there is no counter-claim, I will be assuredly more town then anyone else.

2) I have a circle of 3 other townies. I've ruled out that we have a member with a different win-condition, since mafia has decent numbers already, and 3rd party is BP. Additionally, the numbers add up with how many are in each faction.

3) We have access to more then a circle. I won't disclose anymore until it's clear I am going to win.

Personally, I have a lot of time to devote, and I have 4 times the man power of any other candidate. I believe that being elected as confirmed town mayor will not be the hard part, but rooting scum out and realizing their counters to me being mayor will demand effort.

So I advise green townies in the race drop out and vote me, because I doubt you have more to offer. If you are mafia or third party, please stay in the race or counter claim to make my job easy.


Yeah, the slip was kind of apparent, unless scum is really bad :/.

Your plan makes a lot of sense, especially if you have a circle. The only thing is that no one knows their powers yet... I hope you and your body guards don't get good ones :/

I don't think Jackal is confirmed anything right now. I'll vote for you unless a better campaign comes along.

Lol. He doesnt want Bum with a good role so id assume its terrible play (like me ) or scumminess trying to post something of worth

On March 24 2011 14:13 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
Kavdragon:
Mayor: Bum, this is directed at you. Your campaign revolves around making sure that the mayor does not fall into the wrong hands. This is evidenced by the fact that you are selling your self as blue, and having a circle of confirmed persons. You are NOT selling your scum hunting abilities. You are taking a very passive approach by using the mayoral protection for a blue.

The problem is, we need active scum hunters. The game is won with analysis and scum hunting, NOT blues. As per the advice of the vet's in the previous game, Mafia will likely be shooting for the active leaders of the town, not blues. Thus the protection would be better given to them.

I'm not saying that I doubt your townie-ness, but I am saying that the mayor needs to be a leader, and a good analyst. If you can step up to the plate and deliver those things I'll throw my vote in behind you, but so far you've not shown great analysis. The fact that you didn't see this problem with your plan, and revealed yourself that way is evidence that you are not analyzing things very well. Because of this, I'm keeping my name in the pool.


There also the fact that the mayor can choose the lynch, and can rely on active scumhunters' advice. The leader in this case only has to make the final decision, and I'd rather that be a confirmed town who will listen to scumhunters than an unknown or even probable town.

Of course, this relies on no counterclaims in the next, oh, 12 hours or so i guess.

Somethings offbeat or is it just me?

On March 24 2011 14:24 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2011 14:22 Lanaia wrote:
This isn't night then? I'm a little confused.

This is night. Day1 starts when the 24hr n0 starts iirc

Feeding off of Lanaia's newbieness.

On March 25 2011 02:24 iGrok wrote:
Okay, here's what I have so far:

Bum slipped hard early on, so he claimed blue. This opened up an opportunity for him to act as a mouth for the blues and lets us get a confirmed townie as mayor (assuming no counterclaim, if there is a counter claim I will re-assess the situation). And a confirmed townie as Mayor lets us get Lynch 1 under our control.

However, kavdragon makes a convincing argument, and I know that when I'm scum I usually try to snipe the best hunters first, so protecting them is a must. Hopefully, when roles are revealed, there will be some Medics/Doctors who can protect our best analysts. But they could also be used to protect bum.

Brownbear's analysis of bum's situation was good, but I think a little flawed. Its worth trading N blues for N scum, and so if Bum really is blue, the best thing that could happen is that scum counter claims. However, if there is a CC, the other blues shouldn't back up bum. 2 for 1 Blue to Scum isn't a good trade imo, and we'll have to lynch 1 blue at least. Scum doesn't have to keep claiming up to 4-4.

Currently, my vote is split between bum and kav, although I think if bum shows decent analysis d1 he'd steal my vote.

A useless wall of text but theres a key info here. He states that hes a Veteran. Well hes doing shit lol cause this is all common sense. .....

On March 25 2011 02:27 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2011 02:26 ilovejonn wrote:
I just want one place I have to look at to go through with everything. Besides, people
type
like
this
in
irc,
then
I have to read
a very long
log.

This is an excellent point. I'm going to go vote no on the poll now

spam spam

On March 25 2011 04:02 iGrok wrote:
Suppose 2 people remain in the item game, 1 scum and 1 town, and both are killed at night - who gets the item?

Why is he asking this

On March 25 2011 05:39 iGrok wrote:
Tackster, note that I'm vote for Bum conditional to a good CC (obviously a half-assed cc I'll just laugh at). If so, I'll probably vote chaoser.

But a blue mouth with longevity would be really useful to have. So even if there is a CC, I propose we lynch the CCer first, and then bum if the CC flips blue. I mean its been long enough that any CC has to be doubtful, right?

You shouldn't lynch someone off their role unless their role is GodFather straight up or Serial Killer or some obvious Scum/3rd Party Role

On March 25 2011 06:39 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
bum
I'll be taking note of all those who chime in on what it is going to be.


Seems like thats exactly what hes doing, tackster

Spam Spam Spam

Next Post to look at 858


Ill bbl. iGrok, I call you SCUM
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annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
March 25 2011 21:21 GMT
#1093
On March 26 2011 06:18 tnkted wrote:
and @annul: what are your thoughts on the IG players?


i have many thoughts about IG players.

i cant tell you what they are, though, because it will interfere with my strategy to win us item game.

as long as bumatlarge is laying off of me, i am sure he will have no problems picking one of the other 5 to blow up tonight.

depending on the flip tonight i can tell you more.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
March 25 2011 21:23 GMT
#1094
and bumatlarge: if you and the entire town wants me dead, give me one night to live. vote me out day 2 or something. there is something i need to do.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
March 25 2011 21:24 GMT
#1095
because i am almost sure the town will sheep the scum who see an easy kill target in me for a full-town vote, so its not like i will last very long in this game.
Rean
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands808 Posts
March 25 2011 21:26 GMT
#1096
Hmmm. It's probably in black's best interest to start killing off the item-game players as fast as possible, while the red's would want to take it easy there to prevent black taking the cake, since black is arguably the biggest threat to the red team at the moment. So with 1 night-kill a time, it comes down to some good analysis and a few lucky medic/dt's for town to walk away with the items.

Out of the 6 players currently i've got a gut feeling that Annul is scum (my gut feeling for Annul is notoriously bad though >.>), and as for the second scum... I really don't have a clue, without access to some of the pm's going around it's hard to judge, so i think we're gonna need to rely on IG players to give us some solid analysis.

I reckon it's best to DT check annul for now (miller claims will NOT be believed this time ), medic the best analyzer in there and pray it doesn't all go to hell.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
March 25 2011 21:28 GMT
#1097
On March 26 2011 06:26 Rean wrote:
Hmmm. It's probably in black's best interest to start killing off the item-game players as fast as possible, while the red's would want to take it easy there to prevent black taking the cake, since black is arguably the biggest threat to the red team at the moment. So with 1 night-kill a time, it comes down to some good analysis and a few lucky medic/dt's for town to walk away with the items.

Out of the 6 players currently i've got a gut feeling that Annul is scum (my gut feeling for Annul is notoriously bad though >.>), and as for the second scum... I really don't have a clue, without access to some of the pm's going around it's hard to judge, so i think we're gonna need to rely on IG players to give us some solid analysis.

I reckon it's best to DT check annul for now (miller claims will NOT be believed this time ), medic the best analyzer in there and pray it doesn't all go to hell.


rofl

yeah rean, lets only say what i said 30 times yesterday... oh, and annul is scum.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
March 25 2011 21:29 GMT
#1098
p.s. dont DT check me. PLEASE do not DT check me.

i am dead tomorrow or earlier. don't waste a DT on me. DT somebody else in item game.
Rean
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands808 Posts
March 25 2011 21:31 GMT
#1099
On March 26 2011 06:23 annul wrote:
and bumatlarge: if you and the entire town wants me dead, give me one night to live. vote me out day 2 or something. there is something i need to do.


first you want to be voted out day 2 at the earliest and now your fate is sealed? the fuck?
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
March 25 2011 21:31 GMT
#1100
bumatlarge: who in item game are you SURE is a green?
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