EPTOn March 25 2011 10:34 annul wrote:
few things
1. why would you support jackal over me? what do you see about him that you do not see in me? if your arguments FOR yourself are strong, why even entertain jackal over myself?
2. you like my math re: item game and you concede giving mayor to a green in item game means an amazing chance to win item game. you counter this by essentially saying that as mayor, you are in the role to lead town in scumhunting, so you should give a veteran mayor (you).
why cant you still lead town in scumhunting without the bodyguard protection? the "mayor" role is ceremonial at best; if you want to be scumhunt leader, go for it. i just want the protection, not the leader role. i want the bodyguards. nothing is preventing you from leading town in scumhunting without the bodyguards.
you say you are not a power role, but roles have not been given out at all, which is why i challenged you earlier when you said that the blues are "more than just a PM circle."
... but lets roll with this. if you are not important to keep alive, then doesnt that kill a ton of the case my detractors have with why we should save you over an IG player?
few things
1. why would you support jackal over me? what do you see about him that you do not see in me? if your arguments FOR yourself are strong, why even entertain jackal over myself?
2. you like my math re: item game and you concede giving mayor to a green in item game means an amazing chance to win item game. you counter this by essentially saying that as mayor, you are in the role to lead town in scumhunting, so you should give a veteran mayor (you).
why cant you still lead town in scumhunting without the bodyguard protection? the "mayor" role is ceremonial at best; if you want to be scumhunt leader, go for it. i just want the protection, not the leader role. i want the bodyguards. nothing is preventing you from leading town in scumhunting without the bodyguards.
you say you are not a power role, but roles have not been given out at all, which is why i challenged you earlier when you said that the blues are "more than just a PM circle."
... but lets roll with this. if you are not important to keep alive, then doesnt that kill a ton of the case my detractors have with why we should save you over an IG player?
1) You think town in general doesn't think you are scum? I may not feel that way, because in the past what 4 games you have been mafia and I want to give you the benefit of the doubt and I don't mind having to deal with an aggressive player I know is smart. People are shouting your name for the first lynch, and if you get mayor, I think that will lead to the complete opposite of organized town. (I wouldn't like to think everyone arguing with you is scum, but if you feel that way, well that's your platform not mine
)2) Yes. Organized town > Advantageous town. Of course this all relies on the item. If you have any information on the item that is stronger then having a public town leader with a town circle behind him who will rationally take everyone's opinions and analyses, I'm all ears.
3) Because mayor is a strong role to speak from. Why can't we just have a medic protecting the most innocent IG player? I would gladly prioritize you or the chosen person. And this is very maneuverable. If hits are stacked or some ability is used, or medics fail, we have more IG players. I think to assign permanent protection, we should give it to a person who has much more backup. I am a blue, and my circle knows I am a blue. I'll happily wait til the last second for a counterclaim, and I'm open to any methods that might be used by non-town to do what I am doing.
4) I'm not going to discuss this if I am not going to be mayor. But, I fully back the statement I made. I have access to more then a PM circle. I know scum will have methods to counter-act what I have access to, so I don't want that to be the center of my campaign. I wouldn't say it if I didn't have it.
5) We can most likely keep the IG player who we agree is town alive as long as we need to. They are replaceable if something fails. I think I am a bit harder to replace, as my circle benefits from our numbers, while your item game may not. This is completely ignoring the fact that 2 out of 6 IG players are scum, and no one on my circle is.
As of right now, I think it's best to restate your idea clearly, so that if becoming mayor doesn't follow through, town will agree that your platform holds water. I think it does.
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