When you look at the SK kills:
Why, Aidnai, Deconduo, Chaoser
I feel GMarshal fits the profile best.
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
When you look at the SK kills: Why, Aidnai, Deconduo, Chaoser I feel GMarshal fits the profile best. | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On February 21 2011 23:53 deconduo wrote: Also you are who I suspect most, but it really could be any of the last 4. Its a close call as everyone has stuff pointing towards them. When you look at the SK kills: Why, Aidnai, Deconduo, Chaoser I feel GMarshal fits the profile best. Ok, you are feel to free however you wish, however out of the remaining players I'm probably the one who contributed the most. Also SK killed why, why left a riddle, why would I work on solving the riddle (by the way anyone who wants to can verify it) if I thought it might point to the SK, this makes very little sense to me. I suspect SiNiquity to be honest, he fits the profile of a lurking player (like all the other survivors, save me actually) with experience on TL. I'm going to hold off on voting until I collect more evidence/see if anyone claims to have survived the second hit (if there was one) | ||
chaoser
United States5541 Posts
Either way, we need to lylo. In the first scenario, we need to lynch GF. I THINK gmarshal and sin are town, I don't know for sure, but sin's crazy aggressive push for me yesterday seems like townie while gmarshal's name checking shoud be townie but maybe it's just another power of the SK? Dunno..going to work, will check in from time to time, good luck town. | ||
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GMarshal
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kitaman27
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On February 21 2011 20:19 gryffindor wrote: I have to say that I have not really seen SiNiquity ever try this hard, and it has me up in arms. I really feel like he is the most likely to be the last scum. Vote: SiNiquity On February 15 2011 19:38 gryffindor wrote: Suspect #3: Siniquity He has been both unhelpful and actively lurking. He hasn't been adding anything to the discussion at all. Can't have it both ways. On February 21 2011 23:53 deconduo wrote: Also you are who I suspect most, but it really could be any of the last 4. Its a close call as everyone has stuff pointing towards them. When you look at the SK kills: Why, Aidnai, Deconduo, Chaoser I feel GMarshal fits the profile best. My death flavor text also matched with those kills. | ||
darmousseh
United States3437 Posts
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kitaman27
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On February 22 2011 00:29 darmousseh wrote: gmarshal is most likely not the SK. You are scum, I think you are saying that to throw suspicion on me by defending me. I do not know if you are still playing towards you victory conditions (I'm unsure if they still apply after death), but if so you will not succeed in framing me. Also Beefy, I'm calling you out, for some reason our discussions always seem to neglect you. So I found what your name is, you are Chaotix, now care to roleclaim? Also does anyone know anything about Chaotix? | ||
chaoser
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GMarshal
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On February 22 2011 00:50 chaoser wrote: He claimed like ages ago, apparently if he dies there's some sort of curse or something. Now that I think about it, probably SK is the only one alive GF would want to keep me around. There's no reason to kill me since there's so much "evidence" against me. Also I'd like to say HA YOUS IS WRONGG SIN He did... I must have missed it... ok. I think a SK would want to keep you around chaoser just because the case against you was so strong that it was likely you were going to be lynched. (I know that had you survived the night I was going to go ahead and do a post by post analysis of you) However now that I am thinking I think beefy is the GF (or SK, but I think we got the SK), of all the people left he has the scummiest read IMO. SiNiquity actually has a very solid name claim (I just went back and read it) it seems fairly solid, and I dont think a scum role would also have a day kill. gryffindor I feel is town (nothing really solid there) I know I'm town, that just leaves beefy. | ||
deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
On February 22 2011 00:55 GMarshal wrote: Show nested quote + On February 22 2011 00:50 chaoser wrote: He claimed like ages ago, apparently if he dies there's some sort of curse or something. Now that I think about it, probably SK is the only one alive GF would want to keep me around. There's no reason to kill me since there's so much "evidence" against me. Also I'd like to say HA YOUS IS WRONGG SIN He did... I must have missed it... ok. I think a SK would want to keep you around chaoser just because the case against you was so strong that it was likely you were going to be lynched. (I know that had you survived the night I was going to go ahead and do a post by post analysis of you) However now that I am thinking I think beefy is the GF (or SK, but I think we got the SK), of all the people left he has the scummiest read IMO. SiNiquity actually has a very solid name claim (I just went back and read it) it seems fairly solid, and I dont think a scum role would also have a day kill. gryffindor I feel is town (nothing really solid there) I know I'm town, that just leaves beefy. Looking at the SK kills it could be anyone. + Show Spoiler + kitaman was browsing the web, taking a break from participating in the conversation. He just got an email from his best friend in the whole world. It was a link to a cool new website. When the page finally loaded, kitaman dropped his laptop. He had started convulsing. His hands and legs contorted and began to flail around. He dropped from his seat and foam came out of his mouth. Unfortunately for him, no one managed to help him in time. Points to sinquity ----------- As the town gathered, the day of voting began. Before discussion could properly begin, Andres was planning his drinking for the night. Having gotten a draft plan from one of his drinking buddies, he was just putting the final touches to a night out, when he got an email from a friend. It contained a picture so vile to him that his body started to convulse. Within moments why had died. As people looked at his screen, they tried to figure out how a picture of a bottle of Heineken could kill a man. Only person with motive to kill why was gryffindor as far as I can see ------------ As he spoke Kagemusha was checking out some history sites, he was cautiously optimistic about the upcoming release of Shogun 2: Total War and was refreshing his memory about the history. When he came to a summary page, he dropped his laptop. aidnai died like the others. Points to beefy ------------ Martok had installed a brand new voting tracker system, all electronic that counted the votes on big screens. As each person walked past, the screens remained as they should, but as deconduo walked past, the screen flashed. After everyone had been seated, one of the men put his hands in his pocket. deconduo started convulsing. He died shortly after, the same symptoms as the others. Martok blinked in disbelief. They were so close, what he had thought was the real threat had gone. This couldn't go on much longer. ----------- "We were lucky, no one died last night." As he said that, chaoser broke into spasms and died quickly. "Well, 'khaan died. Still, no loss. Continue as usual, but at this rate we'll all be dead tomorrow." Points to beefy | ||
darmousseh
United States3437 Posts
On February 22 2011 00:35 GMarshal wrote: You are scum, I think you are saying that to throw suspicion on me by defending me. I do not know if you are still playing towards you victory conditions (I'm unsure if they still apply after death), but if so you will not succeed in framing me. Also Beefy, I'm calling you out, for some reason our discussions always seem to neglect you. So I found what your name is, you are Chaotix, now care to roleclaim? Also does anyone know anything about Chaotix? No, you are reading too much into this. I really doubt that you are the SK. It simply wouldn't make any sense. I'm trying to get suspicion off of you. | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On February 22 2011 02:11 darmousseh wrote: Show nested quote + On February 22 2011 00:35 GMarshal wrote: On February 22 2011 00:29 darmousseh wrote: gmarshal is most likely not the SK. You are scum, I think you are saying that to throw suspicion on me by defending me. I do not know if you are still playing towards you victory conditions (I'm unsure if they still apply after death), but if so you will not succeed in framing me. Also Beefy, I'm calling you out, for some reason our discussions always seem to neglect you. So I found what your name is, you are Chaotix, now care to roleclaim? Also does anyone know anything about Chaotix? No, you are reading too much into this. I really doubt that you are the SK. It simply wouldn't make any sense. I'm trying to get suspicion off of you. Ok, I'll take your support then, I know I'm not the SK. | ||
chaoser
United States5541 Posts
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GMarshal
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
This shouldn't even really be a discussion, because we can't no lynch, so look at my aforementioned points that GMarshal is pretty clear through my eyes via his behavior towards me in PMs. I am not familiar with Beefy's play, but I have to say that I have not really seen SiNiquity ever try this hard, and it has me up in arms. I really feel like he is the most likely to be the last scum. Vote: SiNiquity From Gryff: What kind of logic is that? And you vote just as day starts and disappears? Something smells fishy... | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
(Posts in spoilers, my comments in Bold ) + Show Spoiler + Vote: Ace Its my policy to vote for people who votes for me. I'll make them pay... Now I don't know most of you, but I'm glad that fluffy is behaving well... His my responsibility and its nice to see him playing properly. Well, as far as policies go I think the "vote for whomever votes for me" policy is stupid, but I won't say that its scummy, although it would serve as a good mask for bandwagoning with scum by saying "he voted for me". Its interesting to note that Ace died that night. This is also beefy's first post, and its on page 17 + Show Spoiler + Oh and sorry for coming here late. I'm looking forward to getting to know you all. post immediately following the above one, nothing to comment on it, seems courteous enough + Show Spoiler + That helps. Unvote, Vote: gryffindor I didn't think Ace is that guilty either. And I don't plan to get him lynched. this is another "he voted for me" post, unless its in his red text I dont understand this policy at all. I dont think there is more to note here other than why would you vote for a player you don't think is guilty in the first place? + Show Spoiler + @ pevergreen, Coagulation Understood. Cheers for the clarification. discussion of usual tl modkill rules, irrelevant + Show Spoiler + To unvote, does one have to put unvote and vote in a seperate line? I thought I changed my vote to gryffindor Anyhow if anyone is to attack me tonight, they will regret it. I will use the full power of the force on you. Fear the greatest Dark Jedi in the world! what? I dont get the jedi reference, but it apparently indicates that he is Chaotix + Show Spoiler + Excellent Jbright. Very good. While I am good bud with fluffy, my role is not related to him. And even if I am related to him, I don't know who is playing his role. Vote: griffindor for now. Lets see... Kagemusha is a really good mafia player, and was the only player who won Generalhandkerchiefs classical mafia until Crazed Rabbit won it it 2007. Its said that as soon as Kage is lynched, it goes bad for the mafia. This is called the Kagemushas curse. I cannot remember him having anything with TinCow. Except TinCow is said to be a good prosecutor and one of the best townies, while Kage is said to be one of the best mafia. finally a post that is more than 2-3 lines, he votes for griffindor for no reason that I can perceive, his comment about the names may seem useful but it has not helped us that much (read, at all), I'm loathe to consider it a real contribution + Show Spoiler + Hey GGQ if you've got no one to vote for, vote for me. ok...why....? + Show Spoiler + Unvote, Vote: aidnai I try my best. continuing with the idiotic policy of voting for whomever votes to you...I *really* hope that thats due to red text + Show Spoiler + Well losing Project Psycho (Kommodus) was a big blow. He probably had a investigation ability as Kommodus had a nickname "Holmes" on the Org. We're already down to 19 so I'll share my thoughts so far. iirc we are using the God Father system, or something very close to it. Which means the host picks one God Father who chooses two grunts. Three men killed so far has all been teamliquid players. As mafias are more likely to kill people who they are comfortable killing, I think the mafias are teamliquid players as well. If I were God Father, I would like to use two men I can definitely count on so I would'nt use any outsiders. So the mafia can't be me or fluffy. If the mafias are in this to win, they would've hired vets. On the Org, controlling the discussion is a double edged sword, as the town may call for your head if you make the wrong call, but on this place you lot seem to go after those who doesn't contribute. I'll be looking at people who constantly posts and discusses, but does nothing controversial. his second long post, but it seems to be mostly fluff, it seems to say the neither he nor fluffy can be scum, seeing as how we saw that fluffy was probably scum this makes me send a *large* FoS on him, especially considering how well he gets along with fluffy all game long, the GF probably randomly chose a TL player to help them pick targets (looking at darmousseh!) also "I'll be looking at people who constantly posts and discusses, but does nothing controversial." hmmm, that does describe his own style of posting too + Show Spoiler + I agree with Believer. I'm willing to bet my money on either gryffindor or ilovejonn being mafia. Possibly both. so after saying that the mafia are probably tl vets he goes after two people who aren't, thats kind of contradictory... + Show Spoiler + Straight from the head that would be Reenk Roink. Two of them combined has a nick name pever reenk. this supports SiNiquity's claim quite a bit + Show Spoiler + /snip (an analysis of ilovejonn's posts by someone else) He could be role playing some spammy player. But even he is, it doesn't clear him one bit. ok...but you said that the mafia team was probably TLer's, not just TLer's but *veteran* tl players, I dont think ilovejohn meets those criterion + Show Spoiler + Defs not. His normally much more spammy. I enjoy his spam posts, but in terms of contribution its the best thus far by fluffy. As for me, I don't usually do OMGUS votes and I talk less interesting, I don't know what to make of it + Show Spoiler + Don't know how to multi quote here so I'll answer them seperately. On the org GF iirc, the host picks the God Father first and gives the fellow a bit of time to choose his grunts. When he does that host sends a role to detectives and the game begins then. As for the question whether everyone had their role before becoming mafia/ detectives. I wouldn't do that if I was the host, but I'm not sure. But seeing how I only have 1 pm, I think we all got a role after God Father and grunts were chosen. In that case, it may be possible to identify the mafia by looking at peoples identity. I'll write more later. Shower first. well, its true we have established that identity is linked to alignment, "But seeing how I only have 1 pm, I think we all got a role after God Father and grunts were chosen." is an interesting line, does that mean that you would have had to receive a second PM to change your alignment? Still this discussion does contribute something to town, but it still feels like a post that contributes without going for anything controversial + Show Spoiler + @deconduo Forgot to mention how the mafia have to do the write up them selves on Org style GF. How do you know this? Also, in our normal GF we have God Father (lynch to win) 2 grunts, 1 detective and 1 surprise (in this case it seems to be day killer) Not sure if their ability is linked to who players are role playing but if they are role playing detectives would've been Askthepizzaguy or Kommodus whom are both dead. Spammy players are fluffy, A Completely Inoffensive Name (ACIN) and Warman. 3 players I can think of on top of my head. Some org regulars whom are still alive are. Beefy (Japanese, friend of pevergreen, lynched when innocent and survives when mafia) Chaotix (As fluffy said I'm playing him. Vengeful) fluffy (spammy) Beskar (Witty British guy) TinCow (Mafia hunter. Prosecutor) GeneralHandkerchief ( God of Org mafia. Creator of all) Sasaki Kojiro (Always suspicious. He votes for Csargo) Romanic (analyzer) atheotes (always mafia. Always) Secura (Beskars friend) Theres a few more I cannot think of right now, or players who are not regular anymore (like Kommodus) Vote: gryffindor Seems to be the best out of small option I have. this is a sort of useful post, however once again it avoids the topic of who to lynch entirely, some of the data he provided did pan out, but it would have been foolish to lie about information that can be publicly verified + Show Spoiler + Okay, I can vote for GGQ. Unvote, Vote: GGQ meh, bandwagon, everyone jumped on so nothing to look at + Show Spoiler + Spread out the votes. We need to pressure other peoples. curiously this post was edited, while I agree with the sentiment it was faaar too late and feels like just a token gesture + Show Spoiler + On February 16 2011 17:38 aidnai wrote: ^^Pre edit it said something more like "GGQ has too many votes, can some of you vote for me so that I have more people to vote for" Don't edit your posts here, it's illegal in mafia games. I posted something unsuitable. Hence why I edited it out. My apologies. editing posts triggers every single flag in my head, I want to understand what was so important to change? I dont understand the "so that I have more people to vote for" part... + Show Spoiler + Renata is a very nice lady. And I think its a female name I see theres a lot of new developments. atheotes being mafia all the time is true. But for us Org players, that will make it too easy if atheotes is really mafia. trying to protect his scumbuddy from a definite flip, this feels like a tell to me + Show Spoiler + Yea, thank Romanic for that. He must've invested alot of time doing that. Mind you that is not percentage. I'm in the top five of the numbers of games I took part in, but I'm not mafia that frequently. ok...irrelevant dosn't really contribute anything + Show Spoiler + Vote: Gryffindor Regardless of his alignment, he must die. I wouldn't cross off the Org players just from the kill pattern. Mafia can have a Quick topic where all the team members can discuss stuff. But I believe me and Fluffy is innocent because who ever was chosen GF wouldn't choose a outsider Same goes for the style of writing. ok once again defending himself and a confirmed scum, interesting, also when we are close to losing "regardless of his alignment" is really, really fishy + Show Spoiler + I think gryffindor is one of the scums. He gets my vote next phase. well after saying he must die regardless of alignment you'll forgive my skepticism, yes? + Show Spoiler + Believer and Jbright was killed by the same guy? It doesn't say who killed Jbright. deconduo seems to be killed by the 3rd party. So we have either 3 mafia and a SK or GF and SK left. Anyhow, Vote: gryffindor yay for posting the obvious and then going after his target again, does he know something about gryffindor we don't? + Show Spoiler + @ Chaoser If you think i'm the GF why don't you vote for me? Afraid of revenge of Chaotix are you Why are you so afraid? here let me say what chaoser accidentally let slip, something in his PM didn't let him vote for you, how interesting that the guy with the FoS on you *happens* to die overnight, I'm disappointed that I didn't notice this earlier. + Show Spoiler + Your Crazed Rabbit yes? Repeat after me. Capitalize every word and don't change anything. I Insanious (Crazed Rabbit) is not Mafia or Serial Killer. I am on the towns side. If you have a red text it may be the "truth" nice try, but this still isn't a contribution, although I applaud the originality of the idea + Show Spoiler + Insanious is innocent. If his not, he must live with the shame of being a terrible and cruel traitorous liar. Chaoser is a better choice. this could be me, but I would much rather ensure the SK dies than go after someone who, oh, look, turned out to be town, I bet that Insanious would have died that night, or would have been out prime lynch target today + Show Spoiler + in typical mafia SK is just Serial Killer on org. They can only kill and they are on their own. ok + Show Spoiler + Chaoser and gryffindor. ok + Show Spoiler + If its me and gryffindor, why have I been voting for him for the last few phases? I dont think anyone said that, and your obsession with gryffindor hints at red text or hidden information, which if you were town you should be able to reveal + Show Spoiler + Vote: gryffindor gryffindor has lived for too long. I believe he is the last surviving baddy and he must be lynched. see above spoiler Conclusion: I am almost sure Beefy is scum, I still have to analyze the other players left though | ||
SiNiquity
United States734 Posts
![]() k idk wtf is going on anymore.
I don't know what to make of that at all. All I know at this point is that I'm town, but my saying so doesn't do any good. However what is certain is that I'm Reenk Roink and I chose to kill Mr. Wiggles because I get a day-shot if kitaman dies. I was also convinced (sadly) that Chaoser was GF ~ from the SK's point of view either Insanious or deconduo were GF [per why's clue], and hence would want to kill both of them immediately (deconduo dies in the night from the SK, Insanious lynched the following day). It's WIFOM, but why hunt down Chaoser and try to get the town to lynch the non-GF and risk my life in the process? I don't have a pulse on either gryffindor or beefy. GMarshal is pro-town enough, but I'm a bit suspicious that a detective of sorts has survived all the way to the end of the game. Help me out other townies :\ | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
Its also possible that there was a medic/vet save, however no one has claimed it, so unless beefy does we won't be able to decide either way. I think chaoser died because of his suspicion of beefy, but I could be wrong. Either way, I know I am town, and I think SiNiquity's claim holds water, so its between gryffindor and Beefy, of the two I think Beefy feels scummier, but I have not yet gone over gryffindor's posts | ||
SiNiquity
United States734 Posts
So GF is certainly free to write w/e, and I guess SK isn't (seems silly to leave a trail of clues pointing at your kills). So GF copies SK to kill Chaoser to trick us into thinking SK's the one that's alive. That's the only possibility that fits with why's cipher / death. Hmm. | ||
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