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On February 20 2011 06:08 deconduo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2011 06:07 Insanious wrote:On February 20 2011 05:57 deconduo wrote: @Insanious Did you kill why? no I did not Ah well I was hoping your personality wouldn't allow you to lie, shame. I did not lie, I am not mafia or sk. i do not have any powers in this game. I cannot kill, I am a plain green.
sorry town, that I apparently look so scummy that you are going to throw away the game on this lynch.
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On February 20 2011 06:11 Insanious wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2011 06:08 deconduo wrote:On February 20 2011 06:07 Insanious wrote:On February 20 2011 05:57 deconduo wrote: @Insanious Did you kill why? no I did not Ah well I was hoping your personality wouldn't allow you to lie, shame. I did not lie, I am not mafia or sk. i do not have any powers in this game. I cannot kill, I am a plain green.  sorry town, that I apparently look so scummy that you are going to throw away the game on this lynch.
To me this looks more like a guilt plea and not a desperate try for victory. Mind you that if he is town he loses by this. I would certainly be more desperate and trying to hold on.
Most likely anti-town trying to guilt town into doubt. I support his lynch.
(Remember that these are the opinions of a first-time playing, dead townie)
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On February 20 2011 06:17 Believer wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2011 06:11 Insanious wrote:On February 20 2011 06:08 deconduo wrote:On February 20 2011 06:07 Insanious wrote:On February 20 2011 05:57 deconduo wrote: @Insanious Did you kill why? no I did not Ah well I was hoping your personality wouldn't allow you to lie, shame. I did not lie, I am not mafia or sk. i do not have any powers in this game. I cannot kill, I am a plain green.  sorry town, that I apparently look so scummy that you are going to throw away the game on this lynch. To me this looks more like a guilt plea and not a desperate try for victory. Mind you that if he is town he loses by this. I would certainly be more desperate and trying to hold on. Most likely anti-town trying to guilt town into doubt. I support his lynch. (Remember that these are the opinions of a first-time playing, dead townie) If I am SK i lose by this, If I am Mafia I lose by this, If I am town, town loses by dying.
So want to rethink this?
If I am SK, then I am alone, I die... game over
If I am GF, then according to everyone here GGQ and fluffy were mafia making the GF last living mafia member. If I am GF, I am alone, I die... game over.
If I am town, then I get lynched, SK kills someone, and GF kills two people. Town loses...
So guess what, no matter what role I am, if I die I lose.
I have been disapointed with the play in this game, so have not posted. I still am disapointed and have little to nothing to go on for a defense. As such I repost my role PM:
You are Crazed Rabbit
One of the veterans from the very early days, you originally had a reputation for never lying. You would always tell the truth. It led to complicated situations when you were mafia. Recently you’ve hosted some very interesting games
You are Town Victory condition: You win when all anti-town forces have been eliminated.
Really think my role would be anti-town...
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+ Show Spoiler +On February 20 2011 06:24 Insanious wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2011 06:17 Believer wrote:On February 20 2011 06:11 Insanious wrote:On February 20 2011 06:08 deconduo wrote:On February 20 2011 06:07 Insanious wrote:On February 20 2011 05:57 deconduo wrote: @Insanious Did you kill why? no I did not Ah well I was hoping your personality wouldn't allow you to lie, shame. I did not lie, I am not mafia or sk. i do not have any powers in this game. I cannot kill, I am a plain green.  sorry town, that I apparently look so scummy that you are going to throw away the game on this lynch. To me this looks more like a guilt plea and not a desperate try for victory. Mind you that if he is town he loses by this. I would certainly be more desperate and trying to hold on. Most likely anti-town trying to guilt town into doubt. I support his lynch. (Remember that these are the opinions of a first-time playing, dead townie) If I am SK i lose by this, If I am Mafia I lose by this, If I am town, town loses by dying. So want to rethink this? If I am SK, then I am alone, I die... game over If I am GF, then according to everyone here GGQ and fluffy were mafia making the GF last living mafia member. If I am GF, I am alone, I die... game over. If I am town, then I get lynched, SK kills someone, and GF kills two people. Town loses... So guess what, no matter what role I am, if I die I lose. I have been disapointed with the play in this game, so have not posted. I still am disapointed and have little to nothing to go on for a defense. As such I repost my role PM: Show nested quote + You are Crazed Rabbit
One of the veterans from the very early days, you originally had a reputation for never lying. You would always tell the truth. It led to complicated situations when you were mafia. Recently you’ve hosted some very interesting games
You are Town Victory condition: You win when all anti-town forces have been eliminated.
Really think my role would be anti-town...
My statement is not that you would lose regardless. My statement is that the route you have taken, trying to guilt-trip the town into not lynching you, is suspicious. Suspicious because it is not backed by anything other than "Darnit, if you lynch me WE lose". A more usual response would be backing up against the wall and pleading to your friends not to mistake you as a foe. If you catch my metaphor (is that the correct spelling?).
These are my two cents, I will not pollute the discussion more at this time with my inexperience.
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On February 20 2011 06:24 Insanious wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2011 06:17 Believer wrote:On February 20 2011 06:11 Insanious wrote:On February 20 2011 06:08 deconduo wrote:On February 20 2011 06:07 Insanious wrote:On February 20 2011 05:57 deconduo wrote: @Insanious Did you kill why? no I did not Ah well I was hoping your personality wouldn't allow you to lie, shame. I did not lie, I am not mafia or sk. i do not have any powers in this game. I cannot kill, I am a plain green.  sorry town, that I apparently look so scummy that you are going to throw away the game on this lynch. To me this looks more like a guilt plea and not a desperate try for victory. Mind you that if he is town he loses by this. I would certainly be more desperate and trying to hold on. Most likely anti-town trying to guilt town into doubt. I support his lynch. (Remember that these are the opinions of a first-time playing, dead townie) If I am SK i lose by this, If I am Mafia I lose by this, If I am town, town loses by dying. So want to rethink this? If I am SK, then I am alone, I die... game over If I am GF, then according to everyone here GGQ and fluffy were mafia making the GF last living mafia member. If I am GF, I am alone, I die... game over. If I am town, then I get lynched, SK kills someone, and GF kills two people. Town loses... So guess what, no matter what role I am, if I die I lose. I have been disapointed with the play in this game, so have not posted. I still am disapointed and have little to nothing to go on for a defense. As such I repost my role PM: Show nested quote + You are Crazed Rabbit
One of the veterans from the very early days, you originally had a reputation for never lying. You would always tell the truth. It led to complicated situations when you were mafia. Recently you’ve hosted some very interesting games
You are Town Victory condition: You win when all anti-town forces have been eliminated.
Really think my role would be anti-town...
Roles don't mean anything.
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I'd just like to ask where the hell is rest of town...
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Alive: 6/30 SiNiquity gryffindor Insanious Beefy187 chaoser GMarshal
That's 4 town, one GF, one SK. Let's say we mislynch.
3 town, 1 GF, 1 SK. Wouldn't it be a wise choice for GF NOT to lynch two since then it'd be down to 1 GF and 1 SK and I assume SK wins since he'll just kill GF at night?
Just saying GF, you need to work with us this time and not kill two.
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I'm here, now I choose to believe that why's riddle was legitimate, which means that either deconduo or Insanious is the SK, now that deconduo is dead if we hang Insanious we are sure that the SK is dead. I assume the rest of the town is willing to go along with hanging Insanious?
In this case we have to consider who of the remaining players is the godfather (Im assuming there aren't two goons left because that would mean town is fucked either way)
the remaining players after we hang Insanious are SiNiquity gryffindor Beefy187 chaoser GMarshal
I'm going to remove myself from the list because its likely that I will be hit and killed tonight, and because I know I am town. Of the remaining players I have the highest amount of suspicion on SiNiquity because after responding to my inactivity pokes he just vanished into thin air, although none are clear, chaoser I believe to be town, but I cannot guarantee it
Now, let me go back and see who of the remaining players claimed
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Please don't let town lose the game due to inactivity ;_;. Not voting today=modkill all, just saying
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well, lets get it out of the way just in case I get struck by lightning or something
##Vote Insanious
Also, I claimed, chaoser claimed, Insanious claimed, did anyone else claim?
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So after town loses today, and the role PM's come out and I am shown to be town... I'm just going to say that deconduo + chaoser you two played a magnificent scum team... don't know who was your 3rd. Sad that you two are going to lose to the SK though.
##vote chaoser
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On February 20 2011 07:08 Insanious wrote: So after town loses today, and the role PM's come out and I am shown to be town... I'm just going to say that deconduo + chaoser you two played a magnificent scum team... don't know who was your 3rd. Sad that you two are going to lose to the SK though.
##vote chaoser
lol you are so far off
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On February 20 2011 07:08 Insanious wrote: So after town loses today, and the role PM's come out and I am shown to be town... I'm just going to say that deconduo + chaoser you two played a magnificent scum team... don't know who was your 3rd. Sad that you two are going to lose to the SK though.
##vote chaoser
Why would scum want people to vote? I've PMed the two I think are townie that haven't voted/posted in thread too. Scum would just be content to let people get mod killed/no activity. There's no reason for me to push you as a lynch candidate if I was red.
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On February 20 2011 07:08 deconduo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2011 07:08 Insanious wrote: So after town loses today, and the role PM's come out and I am shown to be town... I'm just going to say that deconduo + chaoser you two played a magnificent scum team... don't know who was your 3rd. Sad that you two are going to lose to the SK though.
##vote chaoser lol you are so far off Meh, Mafia would know that I am not mafia, and would also know that I have a 1/5 chance of being the SK and 4/5 of being town.
Mafia would also know that by killing me then they only have to kill the SK to win the game.
As such, the player who gains the most from my death is the GF. I die, and the GF can take some time to kill the town + has 1 day to try and lynch the SK.
If I am SK, then Mafia wins game over.
You and chaoser are pushing so hard for my death, you obviously have something to gain from it... that being a mafia win.
You two are red, I call it.
I know I am going to get lynched here because of why... so I get to post this outrageous claim that people won't believe... but you will see once pever posts the role PMs.
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On February 20 2011 07:11 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2011 07:08 Insanious wrote: So after town loses today, and the role PM's come out and I am shown to be town... I'm just going to say that deconduo + chaoser you two played a magnificent scum team... don't know who was your 3rd. Sad that you two are going to lose to the SK though.
##vote chaoser Why would scum want people to vote? I've PMed the two I think are townie that haven't voted/posted in thread too. Scum would just be content to let people get mod killed/no activity. There's no reason for me to push you as a lynch candidate if I was red.
Actualy I disagree with this, I don't think you are scum chaos but if you were you would want to lynch the SK really badly, as if he survives victory is a tossup (5 people at the beginning of the night/ 3 die, worst case scenario Sk gets you or its you and sk left, leading to a draw), if only the GF is left then as long as he can convince a townie he can win the game.
Either way I'm convinced that Insanious is the SK and should die
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On February 20 2011 07:16 GMarshal wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2011 07:11 chaoser wrote:On February 20 2011 07:08 Insanious wrote: So after town loses today, and the role PM's come out and I am shown to be town... I'm just going to say that deconduo + chaoser you two played a magnificent scum team... don't know who was your 3rd. Sad that you two are going to lose to the SK though.
##vote chaoser Why would scum want people to vote? I've PMed the two I think are townie that haven't voted/posted in thread too. Scum would just be content to let people get mod killed/no activity. There's no reason for me to push you as a lynch candidate if I was red. Actualy I disagree with this, I don't think you are scum chaos but if you were you would want to lynch the SK really badly, as if he survives victory is a tossup (5 people at the beginning of the night/ 3 die, worst case scenario Sk gets you or its you and sk left, leading to a draw), if only the GF is left then as long as he can convince a townie he can win the game. Either way I'm convinced that Insanious is the SK and should die
Hmm ok, that actually does make sense. My bad with my fuzzy logic then
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On February 20 2011 07:11 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2011 07:08 Insanious wrote: So after town loses today, and the role PM's come out and I am shown to be town... I'm just going to say that deconduo + chaoser you two played a magnificent scum team... don't know who was your 3rd. Sad that you two are going to lose to the SK though.
##vote chaoser Why would scum want people to vote? I've PMed the two I think are townie that haven't voted/posted in thread too. Scum would just be content to let people get mod killed/no activity. There's no reason for me to push you as a lynch candidate if I was red. You think I am the SK, since you know who is the GF, and know that if you lynch the SK you win the game.
As such, in a normal case... getting mod killed works for the mafia... but in this case, you have to kill the SK first, as such keeping town alive long enough to kill the SK first.
This is also why you posted telling the GF to only kill once, not twice.
This doesn't benefit the town, only the GF.
If we miss mafia or SK today, then SK wins the game...
GF can only win if:
1) we lynch SK today 2) we lynch SK tomorrow AFTER GF only kills 1 person
SK wins if:
1) We lynch town today and gf kills 2 2) we lynch town or gf tomorrow 3) we lynch mafia today, and town tomorrow
Town wins if:
1) we lynch SK today and GF tomorrow 2) we lynch GF today, and lynch sk tomorrow
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Now, as the GF... you know we are lynching town today... this means town 100% loses. Now time to save your self... you have to kill 1 person, then lynch SK in order to win... you post it outloud to seem less like scum, but really...
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yes, but you seem to be ignoring vital evidence Insanious, why's riddles, as I see it there is no reason to doubt them, which means that either you or someone who is already dead are the SK, hence by hanging you we pretty much guarantee that the SK is dead, giving town an actual chance of victory. On the off-chance why lied then GF pretty much has to only kill one person tonight to make sure he dosn't outright lose, so as I see it we are in a good spot. Naturally GF while *I* have full faith on why being honest you should really consider if its worth risking losing outright by killing two people tonight.
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Ok, one, you're saying an SK exists. Two, we know that fluffy was probably mafia since the Kill count went from Two to Three. (1 mafia+GF+SK became GF+SK). You say that me and deconduo are mafia. Basically you're saying I'm GF, is that correct? Why did you question who the 3rd is then? We have 3 right there. Also, who is the SK then if you're not SK?
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Also at this point I think we may benefit from everyone claiming.
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