TL Mafia XXXVI

On January 19 2011 23:09 LSB wrote:
The plan is to have an extensive list of replacements full of vets.
I have yet to discuss this with Node of course. But what do you think about modkills happening at the start of night, but not revealing who the replacement is untill the start of day?

On January 20 2011 07:13 Node wrote:


That's up to you.

On January 21 2011 08:17 GMarshal wrote:
I want this to start soon, so please sign up. Personally I'm hoping that the whole mayor thing will cause a lot of debate during the first day.

And out the blood flew. Black as night, black as blindfolds, black as... blood.

The police arrived the next morning. Amidst the caution tape and penlights, were the two scientists. LSB and Node were bound with duct tape, throats slit. The strangest expression on their faces. A mad, wide grin.

On January 23 2011 11:52 GMarshal wrote:
The issue I see with this practice clue is that we don't know what pool of profiles it was pulled from, thought the game we'll only have 30 or so profiles to take a look at, for this clue though we lack a limited subset of peoples profiles to analyze. The only limit right now is that it cant be the 31 players in this game, LSB or Node, that only leaves the rest of team liquid to look at. On the other hand I think clues are awesome.

Also people should start their mayoral campaign's, if I thought I stood any chance I would try for it, but I honestly lack the experience necessary to even consider it. Someone proposed before the game started that the Mayor have to pick his bodyguards from the opposing candidates to discourage scum running for the position, what do you people think of that?

gl hf town, lets win this time

I am suggesting that bodyguards be selected among failed candidates. If mafia aren't sure if they can win the position, they won't want to risk being bodyguard.

Also, if mafia really want to have the mayor role, they must be certain that they could win. Therefore some of their fellow members must stand up and support their candidates. This is another risk mafia needs to take if we are using this plan.

On January 23 2011 12:57 Kavdragon wrote:
Kav's "For now" policies:

Unless something serious comes up, I will follow town majority voting on what to do. I agree that the mayorship should be transparent. (For instance, if the majority thinks I should check Mafia total first night, then I'll do that. If they think I should check town, then I'll do that. I will reveal all information that the mafia would already know, (Like mafia counts), but I reserve judgment on giving out information on greens, and will likely not say anything about blue counts.


My opinion on the bodyguards:
If I were mayor, I would try to pick mafia as my body guards. This would protect me more than anything else, as my death (Before theirs) would be an obvious tell that they are scum. I will NOT pick players who are showing a high level of activity. If the are mafia, then they will likely slip up. If they are town, I'd hate to paint a target on them. This is subject to change, if someone can convince me.

On January 24 2011 05:07 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Actually, I just thought of this:

What if we chose the bodyguards based on volunteers?

This could protect our blues from dying, as they only have to not volunteer. I'm also sure we won't get 24 people volunteering, as most people have some self-interest or sense of self-preservation. This would be most useful if we wanted two greens to be bodyguards. Anyone who volunteers will be put under instant scrutiny, so this would discourage mafia. Also, mafia would not put more than one member into the volunteer pool, or else there would be a high chance of picking two mafia bodyguards, which isn't really good for mafia, no matter mayoral alignment. The only problem is if we get a mafia mayor, he would have two townies protecting him. This set-up would rely heavily on DTs, as they would need to check and somehow release the information about the bodyguards right away, so that we knew they were town. This would force mafia to have to waste hits on the greens, or else make it look too much like the mayor is mafia. The problem arise though, when the mafia just leave the bodyguards, who are town, to try to get us to lynch our own mayor.

What do you guys think?

On January 24 2011 05:24 darmousseh wrote:
I would think a realistic scenario would be if we elected the mayor, and the mayor selected the two bodyguards. The bodyguards would be able to decline the oppurtinuty. The mayor would have the option to let people know who denied being a bodyguard (if its a good mayor) while hide information if its a scum mayor. Bodyguards would be revealed since its the mayor (who is a public figure) and unless the bodyguards are wearing masks, we'd be able to tell. This is all from a "take it from real life" perspective.

On January 24 2011 05:44 darmousseh wrote:


in the thread

As the host brought around the drinks, as the the crowd crescendos with laughter, as the band broke out into another song... I felt something was wrong. Did the lights in the ceiling just black out? Are those black shapes in the alcove bats? Is that shadow in the corner a black cat?

Never thought I'd walk on this street again.

I should have known that this voyaged was cursed with bad luck from the start.

FROM ANOTHER GAME
On January 15 2011 07:19 Impervious wrote:
Why? Probably because he's got such an original name.

Cue the clash of lightning.
Play the roar of thunder.
And make sure there is a shower of rain.

It was just a movie scene, just something from a scary film. A bad dream. This couldn’t be happening.

I should explain.

What do Tigers Dream of when they take their little tiger snooze?
Do they dream of mauling Zebras or Halle Berry in a Catwomen suit?
Well don't you worry your little tiger head we'll get you back to tyson and your cozy tiger bed!
And then we'll find our best friend Doug and then we will give him a best friend hug.
Doug Doug douggie Doug Doug
and if he gets caught by some Crystel Meth Tweakers
Then were Shit Outta Luck

totally written on an iPhone cause I'm a boss.

On January 24 2011 12:51 ilovejonn wrote:

Taken from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gothika:

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both willing, and able?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither willing, nor able?
Then why call him God.

On January 25 2011 07:49 darmousseh wrote:



But mafia are typically italian no?

On January 25 2011 08:13 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Sorry for /outing, i just couldn't bring myself to care about TL mafia for the time being. I promise not to join any more games until I'm really thirsting to play again.

On January 25 2011 08:14 darmousseh wrote:
Looking at Ilovejonn's profile with the poem about God. Wouldn't that be too obvious? In past games, how obvious were the clues in relation to the information on the profiles?

On January 25 2011 08:13 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Sorry for /outing, i just couldn't bring myself to care about TL mafia for the time being. I promise not to join any more games until I'm really thirsting to play again.

On January 26 2011 08:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
This seems short and interesting. If this is a clue focused game then maybe I'll /in. Mini games are neat.

I'll /in for now actually. If you can elaborate a bit more on how this game will work (you can PM me if you prefer) then I'll make a decision but the "picking a person" sounds awesome if it is what I think it is.

Anyway, I'll choose Thom Yorke (lead singer, guitarist, and songwriter from the band Radiohead)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thom_Yorke

Detective
You are a detective! Your job is to use your sleuthing skills to determine the true nature of players friend and foe. Every night, you may check a player to find their alignment and role.

On January 26 2011 13:20 Kavdragon wrote:
Yes, I have already sent in the night action: I'm checking the number of mafia.

On January 26 2011 15:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
lol Coag atrocious timing. Some mentions killing you (even in jest) and you show up to post that little gem.

On January 27 2011 05:08 kitaman27 wrote:
As mentioned before, this paragraph seems very odd to me. If anyone is bored, here might be a place to start. The only connection I could find was the fact that TheAldo is from Flordia or the hero references in multiple different profiles. It seems like there could be something else though that I'm missing.

"You know you've created god in your own image when it turns out he hates all of the people you do." - Anne Lamott

On January 27 2011 10:20 GMarshal wrote:
Well, this is interesting, waiting to see if I survived the night, I really want to get my hands on these clue though! It should be interesting to see what we can come up with.

On January 25 2011 12:40 LSB wrote:
All right. After a bit of reexaming of how the clues are going, I'll say these things. Please ignore all other posts.

Definitive Clues Post
Clues point to people with KP. This means Mafia, SK, and Vig.
Due to fairness. We cannot say much about day 1, besides the fact that there are clues. Plural.
For future days, for every kill that will occur there will be a clue pointing to the killer.

On January 28 2011 04:51 CubEdIn wrote:
That being said, I am 90% sure that SiNquity is TOWN.
Reasoning: He claimed he was hit.
Scenarios:
a) He is mafia.
He would only claim he was hit if he was mafia in order to influence what the town thinks about mafia KP. This doesn't make much sense, since mafia wouldn't know about SK kp anyway. And even if they do manage to make town believe mafia has one more kp than they do, what good does it do? It's better (imo) for mafia to try to fake LESS kp not more.

b) He is SK
Claiming he was hit would be the dumbest thing to do in this scenario. If you are informed you took a hit, then you can just lay low and see if Mafia keeps trying to kill you (absorb KPs). If you see someone try to out you, then you know that that someone is most likely mafia (and pissed that he can't kill you), so you just take him out the next night. Town won't even know who was the mafia that died anyway.
By saying "oh, I've been hit" it only puts you in the spotlight for the town. If you don't die later on, they'll wonder why (and assume you are SK, or red). You don't need medics, you just need to not-get-lynched, and that's best done by laying low. So he's most likely not SK either.

c) He is town
This makes most sense. Since he "took a hit" but didn't die, most chances are that he's vet. I don't want him to claim or anything, and I don't want doctors that might have been on him claim either. It's good that you did protect him, and he may be a nice target for protection later on.
The only downside to this is that he should have been silent about this and see if someone tries to pull something from him, thus revealing themselves, but since it's out there already, we can safely assume that we have one confirmed town.

On January 28 2011 09:09 darmousseh wrote:
There seem to be a lot of people who are not posting anything. Are people always this inactive?

On January 28 2011 09:12 LunarDestiny wrote:

Give me a list and I'll try to tell you.

On January 28 2011 13:20 GMarshal wrote:
@LunarDestiny: I think that the names wouldn't be clues because its too evident, unless their profiles are otherwise bare, I suspect that the mods would make us work harder for results, this is why I think the RoL and Nemesis clue analysis both have merits, because they aren't immediately evident, and actually required work to uncover.

On January 28 2011 13:56 Impervious wrote:
Somehow, I don't feel the need to spam up this thread like I did in the last mafia game I played in (seeing as this one is far more active). All of a sudden, I'm "under active"?

lol. Great reasoning there LunarDestiny.

On January 28 2011 13:56 Impervious wrote:
Somehow, I don't feel the need to spam up this thread like I did in the last mafia game I played in (seeing as this one is far more active). All of a sudden, I'm "under active"?

lol. Great reasoning there LunarDestiny.

On January 29 2011 03:56 Kavdragon wrote:
Just a reminder, the "all" function will disappear soon, so if you like searching through everything like me, you'll probably want to save the page in the near future.

Here is how we counter this. Everyone fucking analyze everything. Do not EVER let one person do all the work, to win this game the town has to keep analyzing. Everyone has to analyze and we have to decide what has the most merit as a collective. If you have a few people doing analysis we will lose in this game faster and harder then in any other set up. Seriously guys. This isn't a fucking boot camp, this isn't some let us baby you set up. In this set up if you are lazy, if you fuck up, you lose us the game. This game requires an effort from EVERY townie to actually win and fuck if we get a mafia mayor then we are fucked. If any single person seems to be trying to take control of the town and who we lynch that is suspicious because channeling our lynches on the thoughts of one person who we can't prove there worth is going to make us die.

also you don't get it. A decent mafia team will manipulate the masses opinion against each other, while the town is shrouded in doubt the mafia knows what they want to do and don't hesitate to do it. By not acknowledging the mafia's pull with town you are basically saying that whatever the majorities opinion is is correct, which is stupid. Just because most people want something to be done doesn't mean its the right thing to do. The more people you involve in a decision the more likely you are to fuck it up. To use a real world example to show you how the majority doesn't do what is right you need to only look at gay marriage rights in the united states. When left to a majority vote in California it failed, because the majority of people are stupid and their opinions shouldn't be taken into account.

You shouldn't say what does the majority want, you should what is right, and by voting me you can accomplish that.

VOTE ROL!

On January 29 2011 07:38 Nemesis wrote:

Yet that still doesn't give your reason for voting me.

On January 29 2011 07:43 LunarDestiny wrote:

bumatlarge did a huge analysis on you. I don't think you have yet to respond to it.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=184939&currentpage=44#868

On January 29 2011 13:00 Nemesis wrote:

Something to note is that is that mr.wiggles suddenly changed his vote from abstaining to me when RoL was in danger of being lynched.

Looking back at his post, he hasn't made any mentions of being suspicious of me. The only reason I can think of for his last minute change of vote is to save RoL. So if RoL flips scum, I would take a good look at this guy. His post are mostly fluff and he doesn't really take a position on anything.

I suggest Mr. Wiggles for dt check/vigi hit.

On January 29 2011 13:05 Kavdragon wrote:
We won't know if he flips red. We can only know if he flips green. (If there are 5 mafia left tonight)

we got 1 or 2 replacements so lynching lurkers right off the bat isnt necessary

On January 24 2011 13:46 zerroth wrote:
how can you consider who is very likely town when you are asking for only 3-4 volunteers. What if 6 volunteers show up and all of em are scum?

On January 19 2011 14:44 d3_crescentia wrote:
So I spent much of this game lurking and not sticking my head above the water so the townies could go around in circles and lynch themselves. I'm not sure if this was the best way to play after losing 2 mafia, but since none of us mafia had any substantial town presence after Day 2 I didn't want to take unnecessary risks and draw too much attention.

Unfortunately I'm pretty sure that if I had been town I would've called myself out for that kind of scummy play, so I'm really unsure as to how to deal with this in future games. What's the best approach in these situations?

On January 19 2011 15:01 Ace wrote:
Be a town presence early. But hey your best bet is to usually do whatever most of the town is doing.

If majority want to lurk, then lurk. It's hard for the town to pick mafia out of inactive players. Let them lynch their active players and you NK the rest.

Walla! Come up to LYLO and no one has a damn clue who's really Scum, and the only townies left are the ones who have 0 credibility so no one listens to them anyway.

And now you see why Town, when they have them, really need their Vigilantes/Night KP roles to kill worthless players if they aren't certain of who Scum is. I think if the Town isn't going to get rid of their inactive players then you should let some of your Scum team lurk too. Remember you don't always have to stick your neck out and look for Scum - you already know who they are. Let the Town kill themselves if they want to play poorly.

On January 21 2011 08:03 Ver wrote:
Ace is right. You did absolutely fine. Remember your goal in the game is to win, not to look good for the spectators lol. It doesn't matter who catches what if they aren't in the game. As long as you don't get lynched and win in the end that minimalist approach is absolutely great. In a town like this you really don't need to do much else to win. 1/10 or whatever with their kp really says you guys were doing the right things.

For example, when I look at the games I was mafia, I could catch myself very very quickly as it was really obvious. But that's irrelevant. Cause I didn't get lynched and we won. Now granted I spend so little time protecting myself since I'm putting it into analyzing, planning, and organizing the mafia team. Managing your time is an important mafia skill as well unless you are Pyrrhuloxia or Bill Murray. But the same principle still applies even if you are using that time to...not play mafia.

Mafia doesn't need people overlapping in the same roles too much either. Why was already putting a good performance while staying away from any prying eyes. He could influence town policy enough if needed. All the rest of you had to do was stay back and let the town focus on the guiltier people.

On January 25 2011 09:11 d3_crescentia wrote:
I'd vote for RoL if he didn't seem so lazy. Some good insight on the mayor role.

I don't have a strong opinion of Kavdragon just yet, as his playstyle generally looks town.

For the most part we need to ignore clues and focus on the people themselves.

@darmousseh all those situations lead into a bunch of WIFOM. I'll be watching you for better posts.

On January 29 2011 17:48 Kavdragon wrote:


Grr. I shouldn't try to respond when I'm tired, but here I go anyways, with part three of the response:

I very much disagree with having vigs hit people who the town all thinks are scum. That makes it possible for the mafia to influence the decision. I say shoot lurkers with vig because it get rid of the mafia shield that is town bureaucracy. This pressures scum much more than a double lynch.

Also, the town can't really discuss which lurker should be shot, cause by definision, there's very little to analyse. Lurkers are bad news for town discussion, so leave them to the vigs to take care of. Like I said, town can catch scum slips, but not if people aren't talking. If we can't catch a slip from the lurkers, chances are they won't get lynched.

On January 30 2011 03:45 Kavdragon wrote:
Can someone explain to me why having the Vig claim before, or after is useful? Why does he need to claim at all?

On January 30 2011 07:14 Kavdragon wrote:



What good does it do the town to have a vig claim after shooting? Sure a DT can check him, but we won't know the result unless he claims too, and there's no way to check him, and on and on. Not to mention that it's possible that we've lost the DT already.

We had a new two new kinds of meat tonight. The flesh tastes like pork, a little bit more bitter, stronger. It tastes quite good.
The second meat was really fatty and greasy, so the meat kind of breaks up in your mouth

And then we realized that this wasn't any ordinary meat.
We never found the chef afterwards. Nor did we find d3_crescentia.

Have two dogs, named Elle and Abby. Elle's the good dog. Abby's the evil dog. But I love them both.

Live In Delaware, the state that doesn't exist.

On January 30 2011 11:24 Coagulation wrote:
the only clue i could find


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Jackal58

Steeler picture in profile

On January 30 2011 13:43 Eti307 wrote:
I gotta say the Beneather's case looks pretty convincing. He's the one we can link the most clues to so far

On January 31 2011 11:05 LSB wrote:
Conversation with Jackel58
+ Show Spoiler +

On January 31 2011 12:34 kitaman27 wrote:


Scum teams are RNG o.O



Still 24 hours remaining. Any suggestions for alternate candidates?

On January 30 2011 12:51 LunarDestiny wrote:
Here is my finding... Very vague reasoning though.

Pandain/deconduo: LINK

Interruption/Substitution:
We had a new two new kinds of DOG tonight. The flesh tastes like pork, a little bit more bitter, stronger. It tastes quite GOOD.
The second DOG was really fatty and greasy, so the meat kind of breaks up in your mouth

And then we realized that this wasn't any ordinary meat.(BAD DOG/EVIL DOG)
We never found (DOESN'T EXIST) the chef afterwards. Nor did we find d3_crescentia.

He looked up and saw a masked man with a blood-spattered black apron tied around his waist. The man masterfully handled his instruments, hands moving at a blur, flashes of steel rising and falling, leaving perfectly sized morsels behind. He lifted a finger to his mouth and sucked.

"Man is least himself when he talks in his own person, give man a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

On February 01 2011 04:16 deconduo wrote:
What does Jackal have to do with anything I've been saying?

I don't want to kill the mayor. I suspect him somewhat but not enough to want him dead for nothing. However if he dies during the night that gives us TWO confirmed scum. I'd be happy even going one for one, two for one is amazing. Unless a/the vig has someone better to shoot, then go for it. Worst case scenario is that the mayor doesn't die.

Out of curiosity:
Do scum bodyguards protect scum mayor?

On February 01 2011 04:29 deconduo wrote:


How nice of you to join us. Why did you completely ignore the dog in beneather's profile when you voted for me? Not to mention the fact that there are a shitton more clues pointing to beneather.

On February 01 2011 04:54 deconduo wrote:


You already agreed that the dog clue is pretty concrete and that it could only point to me or beneather. Beneather was already a top suspect before dog meat was worked out, and yet somehow you don't agree that this puts the nail in his coffin?

On February 01 2011 04:58 deconduo wrote:


Yeah I came to this conclusion too which is why I am voting Nemesis and not beneather.

I want to ask you this again though, why did you go straight for me and not even mention beneather when you worked out the dog meat clue?

On February 01 2011 05:04 Kavdragon wrote:

Lunar, you came to some of your conclusions based off of the hosts googleing info, right? Wouldn't they have caught that with the check they said they did?

On February 01 2011 05:10 Kavdragon wrote:


Sorry, I didn't mean that they were busing him, JUST to get at me. I agree that Beneather is scummy looking, and I think that the rest of the town is too, so it's not much of a loss to bus him.


I would like to know what the town thinks of my theory of the night actions, because If I'm right, then the clues are about the SK and a Vig. NOT mafia.

On February 01 2011 09:54 Jackal58 wrote:

The biggest issue with that connection is there are a shitpot of people in the game that have no idea who the Steelers are.

On February 01 2011 10:04 darmousseh wrote:
Omg I think we just missed a clue from day 2.



Quaterbacks snap the football right?

I'm definitely voting jackal58 tomorrow.

And there in the clearing, in the moonlight, Meapak_Ziph runs at full speed, jumping over roots, snapping aside branches. And close behind him a black shape, only a blur in the darkness, gaining, about to grab, only a hand-length away...

On February 01 2011 09:54 Jackal58 wrote:

The biggest issue with that connection is there are a shitpot of people in the game that have no idea who the Steelers are.

For example, Node might look at a picture of a Banana and think of monkeys, while LSB would look at the same picture and think of a dick. So half the clues are about a monkey and the other half are about a dick.

On February 02 2011 12:08 bumatlarge wrote:
Well, before things get out of hand, hold this open can of worms for me.

I am a detective

Night 1: kitaman27 is Medic
Night 2: Beneather is Vanilla Town
Night 3: LunarDestiny is [black]Serial Killer[/black]

On February 02 2011 13:26 GMarshal wrote:
apparently you aren't willing to be reasonable LD, so here's whats probably going to happen you are going to hang and then mayor will do a census on SK if it reports zero then the DT is confirmed, otherwise we hang him

On February 02 2011 13:37 bumatlarge wrote:


We have time buddy, 48 hours to figure out what you are going to do and 48 hours for me to answer all the questions you have.

We have yet to reduce KP. SK has not hit a single mafia according to Kav. Keeping SK is detrimental to town, and we can assume there is only one left. Kita is dead, and Beneather is a big suspect, I'd prefer to clear his name at the same time as exposing the SK. I don't believe mafia would hit him, as he would be a nice shield from a lynch or a vig.

I am a detective, and you are not mafia, you are an SK. I'm not into the whole ambiguous statement gig. And you seem to be confusing your words? I should claim you as mafia as town so that census can tell me that you were not? You'll have to rephrase this.

Because he came back as Town BG. Unless he's GF, this is a red herring. It is possible for him to be a GF.

:/ holes upon holes dude.

Reducing KP, or keeping this to myself.

I live in a subway under the city
yeah thats how i like it bitch, dark and gritty
you look at me and go "what a pity"
but fuck you pal my life aint that shitty

On February 02 2011 14:51 Coagulation wrote:
thats kinda a stretch
but i wouldnt say hes 100% confirmed DT
but you sound like you admitted to being SK earlier.

On January 31 2011 15:49 LunarDestiny wrote:
Finger pointing mode:
Barundar/Nfi





Minor clues: Masked Man and "I Love Trance" which is his profile pic relates to music. Definitely not enough to say he is mafia. But needed to be pointed out.

As the host brought around the drinks, as the the crowd crescendos with laughter, as the band broke out into another song... I felt something was wrong. Did the lights in the ceiling just black out? Are those black shapes in the alcove bats? Is that shadow in the corner a black cat?

The noises inside are a mystery. The scampering in the bush, a deer? That blood-curdling scream, nothing an animal could make.

He looked up and saw a masked man with a blood-spattered black apron tied around his waist. The man masterfully handled his instruments, hands moving at a blur, flashes of steel rising and falling, leaving perfectly sized morsels behind. He lifted a finger to his mouth and sucked.

And laughing and singing the masked man ran along
And laughing and singing he shot Kitaman
And laughing and singing he ran along

On February 02 2011 16:01 bumatlarge wrote:


As much as I'd like to agree to that, what happens if I do not die? I am certain mafia?

This is the most basic form of WIFOM in the game of mafia. It's often used as an example to illustrate it. You haven't even mentioned getting hit, so unless I am springing this from nowhere, that is not how I know you are SK.

You are trying to beat around the bush because you are trying to delay this as long as possible. You have now proven you are incapable of following any town instructions. I will not be switching my vote off of you for someone I am not sure about. Excuse me if I am not letting your bad arguments have garner any substance.

On February 04 2011 04:22 Kavdragon wrote:
Curse my inability to stay away from anything that looks like a puzzle. I've spend a good 45 minutes trying to translate those numbers now.

...
...

I really hope it's a puzzle of some sort.

On February 04 2011 04:31 Kavdragon wrote:
Oh gosh. DUH.

It was one of the first things I tried, but I messed up the cypher. Cool, that confirms what I suspected.

On February 04 2011 04:52 Kavdragon wrote:
Why the link to Qatol?

On February 04 2011 05:00 Barundar wrote:
xzibit in that picture? gangsta rapper? qatol has something with the mayor in his pic. Trying to tell us kav's allignment?

On February 04 2011 05:14 Jackal58 wrote:

From Qatol's blog -


You trying to tell us something?

On January 23 2011 14:56 bumatlarge wrote:
Cool game on fellas.



bingo, the duct tape/dexter quotes and the pic make it pretty clear. Not going to sit back here and nitpick, so...

On February 04 2011 05:23 Coagulation wrote:
hey dawg i heard you like mafia in your mafia so we put a mafia in your mafia so you can mafia while you mafia?

On February 04 2011 06:58 darmousseh wrote:


Wait if you were role blocked does that mean deconudo is still alive?

On February 04 2011 07:47 Coagulation wrote:

Kenpachi
Divinek
Brownbear
CubEdIn
Eti307
Beneather
Barundar

Need to change votes

On February 04 2011 07:54 GMarshal wrote:
and out of them there are 5 who are scum

On February 03 2011 01:11 Beneather wrote:
Just to let the town know I was roleblocked last night.

On February 04 2011 08:13 Divinek wrote:


what evidence do you have? I might have missed it, all i read over the thread were people saying he's scum and there was an analysis posted and it was alright, but not nearly as convincing as 100% sk.

On February 03 2011 01:11 Beneather wrote:
Just to let the town know I was roleblocked last night.

Based off of public information, we do NOT know that BrownBear is scum. Lunar, I know he tried to kill you, but that doesn't mean he's scum. If you want to build an analysis against him, that's fine. Is there another reason that you want to kill him?

On February 04 2011 10:18 BrownBear wrote:


Color me impressed by your in-depth analysis of me, complete with it's own table of contents, index, and fancy color-coded chapters. Bravo.

Also, Jackal, you have shown me absolutely no reason to trust your analysis or clue-hunting, at all.

On February 05 2011 05:15 Jackal58 wrote:
Play to win.

On February 05 2011 05:18 LSB wrote:

Well, I would say it would be bad form to simply withdrawl from the game. But I'm cool with you shooting yourself tomorrow night if needed.

On February 05 2011 05:19 LunarDestiny wrote:

I am shooting that fake roleblocked tonight. I rage at mafia for that trap.

On February 05 2011 05:20 darmousseh wrote:



Lol, I didn't know SKs could suicide. That's hilarious.

On February 05 2011 06:06 Foolishness wrote:
Don't kill yourself dude. That's just bad sportsmanship really (even given your situation). It's also extremely unfair for the mafia in this game who are still trying to win.

If you want a better reason, if I was mafia in this game, I would argue that you killing yourself violates your "play to win" condition, and that you should be banned for it. We'd have to ask Qatol the lawyer to interpret this law which is probably a path you don't want to go down =D

On February 05 2011 11:32 Kavdragon wrote:
Mafia count is 2. Papapanda was likely Scum.

On February 05 2011 12:54 Kenpachi wrote:
We lost 5 people in total this night and yesterday.
Siniquity (modkill)
papapanda (modkill)
Coagulation (beneather)
bumatlarge (lynch)
Beneather (Hes bodyguard so maybe he was martyred? if this was possible or vig hit him)

On February 05 2011 12:56 Kenpachi wrote:
"suspicious looking meat" is that no beneather?

On February 05 2011 12:56 Kenpachi wrote:
not*
also, Coag disappeared also as did kita the day before so yea..

On February 04 2011 07:55 LunarDestiny wrote:
LunarDestiny (8)
bumatlarge
Kenpachi
Divinek
Brownbear
CubEdIn
Eti307
Beneather
Barundar

On February 12 2011 00:50 BrownBear wrote:
bum - the instant I stopped believing you was when Kav revealed himself to be medic to me and I thought "hold on a second, 3 medics?"

So you would have been screwed either way, it just would have taken slightly longer.

Also, I still stand by my decision to want to lynch LD first over bum - the reason being lowered KP is more important than killing 1 mafia. We had no guarantee LD would work for us (even though he ended up doing so), and killing him ensured he wouldn't kill town. Plus, we could have just said "vigis hit bum tonight" and one of them would have done so.

Ah well, it all worked out in the end