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Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
February 02 2011 10:28 GMT
#1681
LOL you needed census to tell you nemesis wasn't mafia after that night post? Yeah I think you are lying.
Bartundar
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
February 02 2011 10:45 GMT
#1682
Right, I'm lying. Because I didn't try to stop Nemesis lynch back from the first time he was on the line. I didn't need any posts, but the rest of you obviously did.
That night post was not nearly as "absolving" as HIS post was. And nobody cared.

Besides, the night post was picking at Steelers, which was tied to Jackal58 not Nemesis. Are you trying to distract town from the problem at hand?
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
February 02 2011 10:49 GMT
#1683
The Karma part could be the key to LunarDestinys clues on day 2:

And then another persons enters the clearing. He is careful, disturbing nothing, as quiet as the trees surrounding him. A coward, he hid in the shadows witnessing it all, doing nothing. He gazes down at the body of Meapak, the drying blood staining his feet. He shudders, and continues on.

Really fills my mind

I followed TheAldo. And as I ran my knife across his throat, no one was there to help him.

Aldo was hiding doing nothing like a coward.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
February 02 2011 12:48 GMT
#1684
BTW anyone else who has noticed how quiet Mr.Wiggles has gone since LunarD posted a list with him as one of the most active? He did a suspecious vote day 2, and he has barely done clue analysis in this game, quite a contrast to MiniMafia.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
February 02 2011 12:49 GMT
#1685
On February 02 2011 19:45 CubEdIn wrote:
Right, I'm lying. Because I didn't try to stop Nemesis lynch back from the first time he was on the line. I didn't need any posts, but the rest of you obviously did.
That night post was not nearly as "absolving" as HIS post was. And nobody cared.

Besides, the night post was picking at Steelers, which was tied to Jackal58 not Nemesis. Are you trying to distract town from the problem at hand?

Not really, we pretty much posted the same thoughts, I just posted before you.
Bartundar
zerroth
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada173 Posts
February 02 2011 13:30 GMT
#1686
On February 02 2011 17:33 Barundar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2011 12:08 bumatlarge wrote:
Well, before things get out of hand, hold this open can of worms for me.

I am a detective

Night 1: kitaman27 is Medic
Night 2: Beneather is Vanilla Town
Night 3: LunarDestiny is [black]Serial Killer[/black]

Shouldn't Beneather have returned Townie Bodyguard as allignment? It seems very convenient that you check kitaman who died tonight, and Beneather who is suspected scum.

In any case either Lunar or bum is lying, so we got atleast 1 guranteed lynch. Can we afford to mislynch today?



I'm so suspicious of this post. Looking at the night 3 and night 4 clues, i think it would really point to beneather but you state that he is a townie. Also a kinda mess up there. So I'm questioning both beneather and you bumatlarge
With no power, comes no responsibility.
Eti307
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Canada3442 Posts
February 02 2011 13:57 GMT
#1687
Brownbear seems to be really pushing for us to lynch LD... that's kinda suspicious to me.

If LD is indeed SK then he's a threat to mafia as well. He might decide to help town and hit the people with the most links to clues in night posts (and Brownbear can be linked to some)

Just a tought
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
February 02 2011 14:12 GMT
#1688
On February 02 2011 22:57 Eti307 wrote:
Brownbear seems to be really pushing for us to lynch LD... that's kinda suspicious to me.

If LD is indeed SK then he's a threat to mafia as well. He might decide to help town and hit the people with the most links to clues in night posts (and Brownbear can be linked to some)

Just a tought


Oh God, we did this in PYP mafia and it blew.

Look, nobody is saying that bumatlarge is not scum. He PROBABLY is. But they FED us a SK. And bum's claim can easily be verified. If he is scum we have SK + 2 scum targets. I don't see how that's a bad thing.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
Eti307
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Canada3442 Posts
February 02 2011 14:34 GMT
#1689
I'm not saying it is. If he's indeed SK I agree it's a good move to lynch him. It's just that some reactions to the self-proclaimed detective revelations are kinda suspicious.

Bum might be saying the truth as well. If mafia somehow discovered who's medic and who's detective, now that the medic is gone he knows he's the next one on the list so he had no choice but to post his findings.
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4200 Posts
February 02 2011 16:05 GMT
#1690
On February 02 2011 16:05 Node wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2011 14:50 Impervious wrote:
If the detective checks the role of the mayor, and the mayor is a member of the mafia, will it specify that the mayor is a member of the mafia?


Rolechecks on the mayor return "Mayor" regardless of alignment.

Wow. We could be completely fucked at this point.....
~ \(ˌ)im-ˈpər-vē-əs\ : not capable of being damaged or harmed.
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4200 Posts
February 02 2011 16:05 GMT
#1691
If anything, this makes me even more suspicious of our mayor..... It's like he's the shepherd and we're the sheep being led in the wrong direction.....
~ \(ˌ)im-ˈpər-vē-əs\ : not capable of being damaged or harmed.
Beneather
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada451 Posts
February 02 2011 16:11 GMT
#1692
Just to let the town know I was roleblocked last night.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Day[9} <3
Kavdragon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1251 Posts
February 02 2011 16:29 GMT
#1693
On February 02 2011 23:12 CubEdIn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2011 22:57 Eti307 wrote:
Brownbear seems to be really pushing for us to lynch LD... that's kinda suspicious to me.

If LD is indeed SK then he's a threat to mafia as well. He might decide to help town and hit the people with the most links to clues in night posts (and Brownbear can be linked to some)

Just a tought


Oh God, we did this in PYP mafia and it blew.

Look, nobody is saying that bumatlarge is not scum. He PROBABLY is. But they FED us a SK. And bum's claim can easily be verified. If he is scum we have SK + 2 scum targets. I don't see how that's a bad thing.


Town did this in Pokemafia and it was a nightmare for Mafia.
I'm currently on an indefinite hiatus from TL =(
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
February 02 2011 16:43 GMT
#1694
I see no reason to kill LD yet. If he is an SK then it is his best interest to make sure the game is balanced and doesn't sway too much to one side. At this point in the game it seems that the SK has very little choice but to help us townies if he wants to have a shot at winning. LD can act as a mini vig for us and if he goes against what town asks him to do (such as killing the wrong person) then we lynch him the next day.

My proposal:
Let LD live for today and ask him to hit someone for us.
Who to lynch? So far i'm leaning towards brownbear due to the clues. I said I would vote jackal58 today, but no one seems to be blaming him (mostly it seems due to the lack of steel-ers clues).

I still get the feeling that there is a massive conspiracy going on.
Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
February 02 2011 16:46 GMT
#1695
On February 03 2011 01:11 Beneather wrote:
Just to let the town know I was roleblocked last night.



Wow, so you are a blue then? Why would a greenie lie about being blue?
Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
February 02 2011 16:58 GMT
#1696
At the same time why the heck would they role block a bodyguard unless they were planning on hitting the mayor?

Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
February 02 2011 17:04 GMT
#1697
On February 03 2011 01:58 darmousseh wrote:
At the same time why the heck would they role block a bodyguard unless they were planning on hitting the mayor?



As far as I know, roleblocking BG doesn't mean he stops protecting the mayor.
But, if BG is blue (like VIG) you can roleblock him and he can't use his power.

Also, you don't have to be blue to be targeted by RB. Mafia can't know who is who, and you get informed either way, right?

Now I don't know what to say about letting SK live. If the town is ok with it, I'll play along, but did he even admit he is SK?
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
February 02 2011 17:13 GMT
#1698
On February 03 2011 01:11 Beneather wrote:
Just to let the town know I was roleblocked last night.




Are you a normal greenie bodyguard or did some other skill get blocked?
Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
Beneather
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada451 Posts
February 02 2011 17:25 GMT
#1699
On February 03 2011 02:13 darmousseh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2011 01:11 Beneather wrote:
Just to let the town know I was roleblocked last night.




Are you a normal greenie bodyguard or did some other skill get blocked?


I'm just a greenie bodyguard like bum had said.... Didn't get any skilled blocked since I don't have one.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Day[9} <3
Kavdragon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1251 Posts
February 02 2011 17:45 GMT
#1700
On February 02 2011 18:51 Divinek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2011 15:32 Kavdragon wrote:
On February 02 2011 15:07 Coagulation wrote:
kav what are you doing man.

are you really recommending lynching our dt over a checked sk?


Right now that's what makes logical sense to me. I'm not totally set in my thinking, explain to me why it would be better? Where is my logic wrong? People are saying that it's scummy play, but from what I've seen this would be pretty standard, right? Here: let me break down my logic:

Player A accuses Player B of being scum through DT check. This is a simple trade. 1-1. Lynch one to figure out if one is lying. Normal play, right?

Now, who do you lynch? The person who is LESS valuable to the town. (This is the same logic that they used when a DT accused Ace in mafia III)

I hope this is pretty clear to this point. Please, If you have a problem with this logic let me know. It's fairly common town play from what I understand.

Now the tricky part with this specific case is deciding who is more valuable. Lunar, or Bum.
I make the case that Lunar is the more valuable player. He has been more actively involved with the town in both clue, and behavioral analysis than Bum has been.

Now, you might say that Bum is a DT, therefore he is more helpful than LD. I disagree here, because he will VERY likely be dead tomorrow. (If he's telling the truth, we lost a medic already, so stacking hits will kill him unless this game has three Medics, and I don't think that's likely).

The mafia will try to push for my lynch, so I'm trying to be as open as I can about what I say. Please point out what is wrong with my reasoning, and don't just dismiss it because it involves lynching a potential DT.



mmmm i think a DT's value goes up a little bit in a non flip game. Im really confused why you're trying to defend a checked SK over a DT. Sure an sk can help town out, but at this point he has been identified, he has no more need to help town because he will surely die. Well that's not true he could some how not die if town listens to retarded suggestions like keeping him alive.

Your reasoning really has started to sway to making less sense, and it is of course entirely possible that you could be mafia. I don't care overly much to entertain the idea one way or another, but I am very convinced that lunar is actually the SK and that he needs to die. It just makes sense from many past sk's that ive seen, so pro town you couldnt possibly think they're not. Why would anyone else possibly finger him? Sure bum could be mafia, but even if bum was I still think lunar would be SK regardless because a mafia coming out like this would still be fairly sure of an SK. But I think it's much much more likely that bum really is a DT and lunar is almost certainly an SK.

If you are scum, and you do a census tonight you could simply lie to us about the SK number and then we end up lynching our DT the next day. etc etc


I explained why actually being a DT is not actually helpful to the town at this point. Mafia can, and likely will kill him before he can get another check in.

I specifically asked that my bad logic be pointed out, not generally lumped up. Be specific. Any scum can generalize and give good general advice to the town. Show me where my logic breaks down.

Also, why the sudden flurry of activity? You've been very inactive up till now. I'm not saying it's a bad thing, I hope it continues, but why now? (More importantly, why not before?)
I'm currently on an indefinite hiatus from TL =(
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