EPTOn November 28 2010 12:13 annul wrote:
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THIS GAME WILL BEGIN WHEN SENGOKU AND SALEM ARE DONE.
I'll be free of the ban by then. can I sign up?
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On December 11 2010 11:38 LSB wrote: What will I do as mayor I will hold a secrete ballot for the first elections. And I will post who voted for who afterwards. You know, mafia loves to redirect the first election? This will make it harder for them to. This is important for many reasons. Say we're going to lynch inactives. One is mafia, one is town Mafia: "Yo! Lets bandwagon this guy!" Town: "We'll their both inactive so I guess I'll vote for the town" Annul: "You guys lynched a townie. Sheep =P" Now. Imagine my system LSB: "Person A and Person B are inactive, please send me pm for who you vote for" Town sends PMs. Each person has about a 50% chance of dieng. Mafia doesn't have that much influence. Annul: "This person is mafia! Woot Woot!" In addition, I will not be able to influence the vote because I will post who voted for who afterwards. So if you see something messed up, you can call me out of it. (Of course, this also means that we got a great way to catch mafia). Oh wow, this already started. Anyway, no. Wtf? We can't let just one person have all the say on the ballots. Your "secret vote" just is a means for you to control the outcome. The only way we can get mafia to slip up is through open votes. | ||
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And "Veterancy" does not have any merit. There's plenty of people who haven't participated much in TL mafia, but had previous experience. You can't use that for voting for him. | ||
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On December 12 2010 05:11 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: I did not once say I would listen to anyone. The masses are stupid and filled with scum and scum implanted ideas. I would do what I feel is right at the time. IE: Kill LSB. On December 12 2010 06:01 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: but that is effort I don't want to put into stuff! Its actually not even a hunch, I just want to kill LSB for not hitting incognito/infundiblium in TMM2. I know LSB looks really fucking scummy, but what the hell is this? Lynching based on personal feelings? What the fucking hell? at least LSB promised to listen to people, and he can be held accountable later by forcing him to publish the voting list. But you? Did you really just claim that you will: 1. not listen to the town at all 2. lynch based on personal feelings You are the most scummy out of all right now. A vote is the only way this will work. As people said, the MoM doesn't matter -that- much. It's just an extra way reds can get an advantage if they are elected - other than that, if the mayor just waits for all the votes, then it'll be fine. Any candidate who said OUTRIGHT THAT HE WILL NOT LISTEN TO THE TOWN knows this and wants to take away the town's only possible advantage - that of open communication. Do -NOT- vote for this guy. And seriously consider him as a lynch target. | ||
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There's a much larger proportion of mafia and 10+ alternate win conditions this game. If we don't lynch the right target, it just lowers our chances hugely dramatically. I'm not going to let some most likely scum to be able to lynch off anyone then just claim that he voted based on a gut feeling. | ||
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On December 12 2010 07:34 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Listen man, imagine if we all lived in crazy democratic states. The whole process of killing people would become just a huge middle man thing. Go with the "safe" choice which most of the "town" approves of and maybe they won't kill you the next day. The problem is the mafia manipulates the public opinion so heavily that if you go with that lynch chances are it is a townie on day 1. When I say I will kill whoever I want its because an individual is less likely to make a bad decision then a large group. A small group makes the best decisions but honestly if you want me to take 31 opinions into account and do some retarded vote we are asking for failure. At least on Day 1! Seriously, Vote RoL! I won't fuck it up! + Show Spoiler [DISCLAIMER] + "I won't fuck it up!" is just a campaign slogan, RebirthOfLeGenD takes absolutely ZERO responsibility if he somehow does fuck it up and expects everyone to forget about it the next day tumbleweed distracts the town and pulls them in a complete other direction. Look. At. The. Numbers. There are way more of us than the reds. That is practically our -only- advantage. Why do you think the standard F9 was used for so long, with a majority lynch rule? This is the exact same shit that was used during the kingmaker game. here: As I repeated time and time again, the town is just crippling themselves by not going the route of voting on the lynch. I repeated myself so many times, showed reasons over and over and over and over again, but you are so obtuse. Why are you so focused on the "Kingmaker" mechanic? How many times do i have to tell you that if we follow the voting system, this game is just a rehash of the F9 setup? You know, the F9 setup that has been the standard mafia setup and was proven to be pretty balanced, despite all your arguments that the mafia could "influence" the arguments? The only way town has a chance understanding and exploiting the town's only advantage - THE NUMBERS. Why are the townies here, if any, still resistant to voting for the lynch? Jesus christ - it's so simple, and yet people are so blinded by the mayor gimmick that they refuse to see simple logic. I've fought all the way throughout the game to make you guys aware of this. But no... I'm highly suspicious of anyone at this point who keeps arguing for a secret mayor decision instead of a majority guided vote. This isn't a matter of anger or emotion - it's simple logic. If you are against something that is 100% in favor of giving more power to the town, then you are either a red, or a green who will only be a burden to the rest of the town. Do NOT vote for RebirthOfLegend. | ||
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On December 12 2010 05:11 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: I did not once say I would listen to anyone. The masses are stupid and filled with scum and scum implanted ideas. On December 12 2010 06:01 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: but that is effort I don't want to put into stuff! Its actually not even a hunch, I just want to kill LSB for not hitting incognito/infundiblium in TMM2. Again, if you didn't get it: The masses are stupid Its actually not even a hunch, [b]I just want to kill LSB Are you really going to vote for someone who openly says he won't be held accountable for whoever he kills? | ||
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Going beyond the simple mayoral candidacy, I'm highly suspicious of RoL since he kept arguing for a secret mayor decision instead of a majority guided vote. This isn't a matter of anger or emotion - it's simple logic. If you are against something that is 100% in favor of giving more power to the town, then you are either a red, or a green who will only be a burden to the rest of the town. His arguments these past few pages smothered all other discussion and gave mafia more time to rush the vote now. Brilliant strategy if you are a red, which I think you are. The "secret vote" idea of LSB was pretty scummy. But at least that is a type of idea for which he could be held accountable. Given enough pressure, I'm sure we could've forced him to cough out the vote list. But here we have someone who not only ran for mayor, but ran based on a platform of completely ignoring the town's votes. You can't possibly be more scummy than that. If you read over the posts carefully, even you will be highly, highly suspicious of RebirthOfLegenD. By the way, there can't be a VI this game (Village Idiot). 1. VI is a terrible role to put in a game such as this without actually revealing its presence. 2. Node mentioned that each role is somehow related to the name of the character. Even me, with a cursory knowledge of HP, can see that there can't be anyone in that list who clearly fits the stereotype of a village idiot. | ||
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On December 12 2010 14:46 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: err EBWOP sorry I said I would fully be accountable for who I killed btw. Its a burden I would be willing to take on. Look at my above post with my LSB analysis. In this current system if we voted for LSB he would be able to sherk off blame/responsibility because the masses made the decision even though hes the one pulling the trigger. It is really stupid to pretend that it is still a majority lynch, that is like saying America is a true democracy even though someone else is making the final decision. I was willing to take the burden of the MoM kill in deciding who I was going to put down and on top of that I was willing to take responsibility for that outcome. I would be lying if I said that I think a majority decision is always the best way to do it. The mafia is rightfully scared of one good player getting that first kill off and it not belonging to a townie. Its hard to mount a really strong case against someone day 1 and its much easier for the mafia to manipulate a mislynch which is why they would prefer to do exactly what LSB is doing and deferring the mislynch back into the towns hands and allowing us to fuck it up on our own volition, or so we would be led to believe. What the hell. You're really going far off with the [B]On December 12 2010 05:11 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: The masses are stupid idea. The only way we can have a chance of winning is by understanding and exploiting the town's only advantage - THE NUMBERS. If what you really say is true, how is it that the normal mafia setups (most famously, F9), always have a majority lynch system, and start off the first day immediately doing a majority lynch? Irregardless of the red's ability to manipulate public opinion, the millions of successful mafia games using the regular setup clearly show that we aren't as "stupid" as you may think. Know your place. You can't speak for the rest of us. | ||
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On December 12 2010 15:25 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: your misguided, your wrong, and you don't know how to read and comprehend posts Sure. And you're a paragon of a mafia player as well. Anyway, Can I hear some reasons why people are voting for deconduo or Meapak? | ||
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On December 12 2010 09:32 LSB wrote: What's uncomfortable about the PMs? You never responded! I've attached it for your convenience. + Show Spoiler + I'd rather not draw that much attention to myself... ----------------------------------------- Original Message From LSB: If you want, you can be the auditor. The thing is, since I'm doing it, the mafia won't be able to slip in and and manipulate the vote. Changing the voting record is also a problem with normal voting. All the mafia has to do is decide slightly earlier. If you really don't like the private vote idea. (I take it the general sentiment is that they don't want it) We can do reasoned voting, or runoff voting ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Airbag: but if you are mafia it increases the ways in which you can manipulate the vote and it gives the mafia a long time to discuss how they'd like their voting record to look without ever having to appear wishy washy for changing it ----------------------------------------- Original Message From LSB: The issue is that people like to go with the bandwagon. It seems safer, and there is a false sense of security in voting with the majority. Private votes allow each person to make their decision independently. It cuts off ways for the mafia to influence people. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Airbag: I understand wanting to vote for a player with experience but you can just manipulate the votes if ur mafia Why not just have people post their votes publicly, then it's completely impossible for you to lie about it. On December 12 2010 09:34 Airbag wrote: isn't it suspicious that you omitted this part sounds like u want me to tell you if i am a good role or not so mafia can kill me for it? PMs are supposed to be private. If you're going to post it 1. You better have a good reason, and 2. You better post the whole conversation without any omissions or changes. That's the only way town can maintain its trust in PMs for it to be not posted and not manipulated to fake a red roleclaim. How can anyone who claims to be pro-town to do such a thing? This isn't a photoshop or a writing competition. If you start making up PMs, we go into a no-man's land where the reds can just laugh in the background as towns kill themselves. How can you be any redder? The last game someone posted their full PM conversations and subtly altered them was in Haunted Mafia, by Bill Murray. We all know how that ended up. Vote: ##LSB Next. My other red candidate is RebirthOfLegenD. Throughout his mayoral candidacy, he kept pushing for a decision based on his gut feelings only. On December 12 2010 05:11 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: I did not once say I would listen to anyone. The masses are stupid and filled with scum and scum implanted ideas. On December 12 2010 06:01 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: but that is effort I don't want to put into stuff! Its actually not even a hunch, I just want to kill LSB for not hitting incognito/infundiblium in TMM2. Again, if you didn't get it: The masses are stupid Its actually not even a hunch, I just want to kill LSB He kept pushing for this and openly said he won't be held accountable for whoever he kills. i.e. if we chose him as our mayor and he suddenly said, just now, "Oh, I'll just kill XXX because I feel like it, ##lynch XXXX" and XXXX turns out to be blue. We can't say shit since we'd have already given him permission to kill whoever he wants. This goes against the very thing town stands for - the power of numbers of the reds. Thus, my primary lynch target is [b]##LSB. After that I suspect RebirthOfLegend. | ||
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Here's my list again. 1. LSB On December 12 2010 09:32 LSB wrote: What's uncomfortable about the PMs? You never responded! I've attached it for your convenience. + Show Spoiler + I'd rather not draw that much attention to myself... ----------------------------------------- Original Message From LSB: If you want, you can be the auditor. The thing is, since I'm doing it, the mafia won't be able to slip in and and manipulate the vote. Changing the voting record is also a problem with normal voting. All the mafia has to do is decide slightly earlier. If you really don't like the private vote idea. (I take it the general sentiment is that they don't want it) We can do reasoned voting, or runoff voting ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Airbag: but if you are mafia it increases the ways in which you can manipulate the vote and it gives the mafia a long time to discuss how they'd like their voting record to look without ever having to appear wishy washy for changing it ----------------------------------------- Original Message From LSB: The issue is that people like to go with the bandwagon. It seems safer, and there is a false sense of security in voting with the majority. Private votes allow each person to make their decision independently. It cuts off ways for the mafia to influence people. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Airbag: I understand wanting to vote for a player with experience but you can just manipulate the votes if ur mafia Why not just have people post their votes publicly, then it's completely impossible for you to lie about it. On December 12 2010 09:34 Airbag wrote: isn't it suspicious that you omitted this part sounds like u want me to tell you if i am a good role or not so mafia can kill me for it? PMs are supposed to be private. If you're going to post it 1. You better have a good reason, and 2. You better post the whole conversation without any omissions or changes. That's the only way town can maintain its trust in PMs for it to be not posted and not manipulated to fake a red roleclaim. How can anyone who claims to be pro-town to do such a thing? This isn't a photoshop or a writing competition. If you start making up PMs, we go into a no-man's land where the reds can just laugh in the background as towns kill themselves. How can you be any redder? The last game someone posted their full PM conversations and subtly altered them was in Haunted Mafia, by Bill Murray. We all know how that ended up. 2. RebirthOfLegend Throughout his mayoral candidacy, he kept pushing for a decision based on his gut feelings only. On December 12 2010 05:11 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: I did not once say I would listen to anyone. The masses are stupid and filled with scum and scum implanted ideas. On December 12 2010 06:01 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: but that is effort I don't want to put into stuff! Its actually not even a hunch, I just want to kill LSB for not hitting incognito/infundiblium in TMM2. Again, if you didn't get it: The masses are stupid Its actually not even a hunch, I just want to kill LSB He kept pushing for this and openly said he won't be held accountable for whoever he kills. i.e. if we chose him as our mayor and he suddenly said, just now, "Oh, I'll just kill XXX because I feel like it, ##lynch XXXX" and XXXX turns out to be blue. We can't say shit since we'd have already given him permission to kill whoever he wants. This goes against the very thing town stands for - the power of numbers over the reds. Both players strongly give off many scum tells. | ||
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On December 13 2010 09:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I appreciate your vote however baring massive town resistance I will not be lynching LSB or RoL. They've both mellowed out and have started posting much better and being helpful. I in no way trust them but at this point I'd rather dt check them and then learn the results and go from there. Sigh - we have clear reds here. Lynching one or other will be a "safe" choice. Why are you willing to take a more risky route?.... Again, this is like what happened in Kingmaker... Ah w/e it'll be over in 2 hours. | ||
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1. Check them. and 2. Lynch them. | ||
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My FoS is still on LSB. His secret vote system could benefit none but the mafia. | ||
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On December 14 2010 09:15 zeks wrote: death eater 3 hits only 1 died RoL must've got killed by 3rd party then Then obviously 2 took a hit and survived ... hold off from claiming for now please. Is this a slip? How do you know they had 3 hits on 3 different people? They could've stacked the hits on one person who happened to be bulletproof. I think the people who got hit need to claim. If it's only one person, then we definitely have a red here. | ||
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This is exactly what the reds want - to take the town's attention away from scumhunting and into frivolous role discussions. This is what happened in Insane Mafia, and look where it got us. Lets reverse the recent trend of town losing every game, and get back to scumhunting. | ||
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How the hell did you confirm that he's a townie? We've seen that there's 3 types of detectives - role detective, name detective, alignment detective. How are you so sure that he's confirmed? Look, even if he showed as a confirmed townie, there's the existence of a bus driver and the existence of people with avada kedavera (instant death curse) and imperio (control curse). There's nothing that you can 100% be sure of here, no matter what you have. Do you even have a detective in your circle, or are you just taking him from blind faith? | ||
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Avada Kedavra - The Killing Curse (instant death, no trace) Crucio - The Cruciatus Curse (Inflicts excruciating pain on the recipient of the curse. ) Imperio - The Imperius Curse (Causes the victim to perform the unquestioned bidding of the caster.) We can safely assume any of these are in play. | ||
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On December 14 2010 11:37 oddo123 wrote: There are different town-aligned groups in the game. How could you not have known unless you are...MAFIA. ... What? I know there's the existence of ONE group so far. But multiple groups? How do you know about that? Further, did you not read what I wrote? Which detective did they use to confirm LSB's town? | ||
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On December 14 2010 11:42 why wrote: I don't have a particular reason other than that it seems overpowered to have two mason groups in play and no one else is chiming in with you which makes it likely its a two person group. What's the obvious two person group? Patil sisters. Regardless, I'm willing to hold off on LSB for now based on your word. Oh. Right. The Twins. That makes sense. But how do you know he's not a red... I don't trust him at all. A blue would not ask for a secret vote. | ||
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On December 14 2010 13:08 Coagulation wrote: Typical scum post right here. Pushing to expose blue info. focusing towns attention on roles and not scumhunting. you hunting for detectives or scum? ROFL Here we have Kenpachi who keeps claiming that LSB is town and should not be lynched, despite his clear alignment as anti-town that was shown through his mayoral campaign for a secret vote. So far, he has shown nothing but his own words that LSB is town. No evidence. Zip. For all we know, we're going along with a red scheme where Kenpachi's 3-player group is a mafia cell and is trying to convince us that they're all town by claiming for each other. What I asked for wasn't just empty words - I wanted hard facts. What detective did they use to check LSB? Who did LSB come up as? How do you know that LSB is town, other than your word? And yet you call this fishing? You were... should I say, a "lacking" mafia player in the other games, and we see the same evidence here again. Try harder, scum. Oh, and I just noticed LSB's OMGUSUCK vote on me for the lynch. If this doesn't show his guilt, I don't know what will. | ||
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Is this really happening? Notice how his so-called role claim has no way of being proven? He's covered all bases for detective and alignment checks - You are just trusting him on blind faith here. On December 14 2010 14:42 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Hi town, The same thing just happened to me as happened to LSB. We heard ONE scream. Notice the discrepancy? One of these two are lying here. And I intend to trust Meapak more than LSB. | ||
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On December 14 2010 14:15 annul wrote: A loud SCREAM is heard from a citizen of Hogsmeade! Notice, a citizen?? LSB is near being lynched and he's just trying to drag down anyone he could here. He has now already admitted that he counts for the mafia KP. I'll be damned if this shenanigans goes through. | ||
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On December 14 2010 14:47 jcarlsoniv wrote: Yeah, I googled and was like "who the fuck was I thinking of?" @orgo, LSB's claim makes sense.It is very feasible, and look, if we lynch you and you flip town, then LSB is on the chopping block. I say it's definitely worth it. Look. There was ONE scream. ONE!!!!! Either Meapak or LSB is clearly lying. Then look at their track records. LSB was really scummy from the start. I pointed him out for how many pages now? And now that he's so close to being lynched, he's trying to drag down anyone he could by concocting some weird-ass story. Oh, and this: On December 14 2010 14:35 LSB wrote: Because I'm secluded I can do things in secrete I highly doubt annul would make such a glaring typo on a role PM, when anything and its mother can be interpreted differently. All signs point toward LSB LYING and pulling me down with him. He already claimed that he counts toward a KP - why are you being fooled by his lies? | ||
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There was just ONE scream. There was just ONE roleblock. And yet here we have TWO people claiming that their role was blocked. OBVIOUSLY ONE IS LYING. Who's more likely to be the liar? Obviously the fool who was playing scummy from the very beginning. Meapak was actually chosen as a mayor by all you guys - compared to LSB who wanted a friggin SECRET VOTE. Listen. LSB is a very experienced player. I wouldn't put it past him to fabricate a story to bring me down, as someone who obviously had been attacking him from the start. This is sickening. | ||
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Jesus. It seems obvious to me. We can clearly see here that there are TWO players claiming a role block. This is inconsistent. There was only ONE roleblock. One of them is lying. WHATEVER information the liar may reveal is completely circumspect! Look at the facts. LSB has tried to trap me by making sure his role claim showed that he'd show up as red if lynched, and dt would show as red if lynched. SO WHAT? If he's red, he'd already -know- that he'd show up as red. Look. Nothing he has done is pro-town in this game. Everything he's done so far was designed to put himself in the center of the game. This is not pro-town. He hasn't scumhunted well, he tricked RoL/Meapak into the poorly supported lynch of Aidnai and now he has Meapak as his puppet. To put it another way, I've done everything I could to help the town. And yet you guys are believing a highly suspect scum's LIES as his role claim, and are prepared to 1) lynch me based on his lies and 2) lynch me again even if he turns up red, based on his lies as his role claim This proves it: TL townies are sheep. Stop listening to LSB because his name is big and start listening to logic and make plays that make sense for the town. | ||
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On December 14 2010 15:16 jcarlsoniv wrote: Ok, i have a question about the DT. When a DT checks his target. Does he get the info that night? Or does he get it in the morning? If it returns in the morning, then LSB is lying about orgo killing RoL, because RoL wouldn't be able to tell LSB his result. If he gets the result at night, then it's still not concrete on LSB. annuuulllllllllllll Exactly.Look at his words carefully and you can find countless holes. And look at LSB's claims right now. On December 14 2010 15:09 LSB wrote: Okay, that makes things a lot easier. 1) I contribute to the death eater count. So basically I hold half a KP (like all other death eaters). So yes, I understand, lynching me reduces the same amount of KP as lynching orgolove. 2) Since Meapak is not harry, he must be lying about being blocked. There you go. Two mafia. This explains why RoL was hit 3) As long as I am alive, Harry is unkillable. Thats why you guys should try to keep me alive as long as possible. Wow. So now he's claiming BOTH of us are lying? When he's have been scummy ALL GAME? And how many roles is he claiming now? First he claimed to be a Mafia Traitor. Next he claimed to have tracker. Now he's also claiming that, on top of all his other abilities, he's now an advanced martyr. Are all of you seriously believing this nonsense?? | ||
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Look. When LSB is lynched, his name, alignment, and full role PM will also be revealed. And you'll see what I've been pointing out from the start of this game - that he's a red. | ||
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On December 14 2010 14:35 LSB wrote: I am the Traitor. When Name Checked I am ****. When check my role shows up as "no role". When Alignment checked I am death eater. I also count as part of the death eaters when determining the KP. I win with the town. Anyways. I do have one special role though. I can pick a member and determine with absolute certainty if he is mafia, and who he killed. This is because I accompany him to the kill and help him do his business. On December 14 2010 15:09 LSB wrote: 3) As long as I am alive, Harry is unkillable. Thats why you guys should try to keep me alive as long as possible. First he claimed to be a Mafia Traitor. Next he claimed to have tracker. Now he's also claiming that, on top of all his other abilities, he's now an advanced martyr. On top of that: On December 15 2010 01:43 Amber[LighT] wrote: This is not true. RoL was checking Opz before he died, not Orgolove. All signs point toward him lying out of his teeth. And yet Kenpachi and deconduo think we're being "sheeped" by the reds? What the fuck? Are we reading the same thing here? It is you who stubbornly refuse to realize the truth - so much so that I'm having serious suspicion about these two . | ||
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For all purposes, he was red. He knew all the reds, and he counted towards the KP. Above all, because I kept pushing for him from the start, he tried to bring me down with him in a web of lies. So why would you lynch me, now that those lies have been exposed? | ||
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Guess when he was green/blue and when he was red. Yep, During the two big games, he was green/blue, while during Kingmaker, he was red. Don't let him lurk any further in the game. You need to come out and explain to us exactly why you aren't participating. | ||
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But the thing is, he is extremely, extremely inactive this game compared to the other games. Especially compared to Haunted mafia, when his spamming as a green put such an impression in my mind with his "yum yum" crap. I still want to look at all the lurkers in closer detail. | ||
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and we lost both detectives to inactivity? jesus christ Why the fuck did you two choose TODAY to be inactive FUCK pandain and his scumminess. I hope you're happy. -_- your Yum Yum crap loses games. FoS DrH. Now. | ||
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By iloveJon: I definitely suspect Pandain, but I also have my doubts on other players. Here's something about "why" that I made in the last hour or so. why On December 11 2010 12:57 why wrote: Good point. Sorry about that. I like reasoned vote a lot. Of all of them I think that would result in the most discussion and more discussion is always better. On December 14 2010 14:49 why wrote: right, sorry I'm not used to this. Apologetic tone in most of his posts Being cautious On December 11 2010 16:06 why wrote: All my Harry Potter knowledge has gotten me is that whoever is Colin Creevey probably has the sample "Camera Fanatic" power. Speaking of which, anybody got any good ideas of in flavor power roles for the death eaters? It would be nice to have some idea of what they could be capable of. On December 13 2010 06:39 why wrote: If I recall correctly, Snape looked evil but was actually good. I could see him as a miller, but if he was he probably would have claimed already. On December 13 2010 06:52 why wrote: ^ this makes imperious curse unlikely since there are 8 confirmed death eaters. I guess one of the death eaters could have polyjuice potion or something. But I don't think any of the death eater characters are specifically associated with polyjuice potion like barty crouch jr would have been. On December 14 2010 15:23 why wrote: This is what annul said on page 25. 1. Substitution roles. 2. Protection roles 3. Investigation roles. 4. Non-standard kill roles. 5. Non-Voldemort standard mafia kills. 6. Voldemort's personal kill. On December 16 2010 13:23 why wrote: There are alternate win conditions. We know that when Beneather died, the alternate win count went down by 3. This suggested (to me) that there was a Ravenclaw shared victory (Mr. Zergling, as the 3rd member, is Roger Davies or Cho Chang). There could be a similar Gryffindor House alternate win condition that Lunar can share in (if the Gryffindor house has 3 members, this neatly makes 4 total alternate win conditions left), or Pavarti could have yet another alternate win. IIOA (Information instead of analysis) Players who speculate about the setup more than they ask for other players' reasoning and/or accuse other players of being scum are probably group scum. On December 14 2010 10:46 why wrote: (ps breadcrumb is when you fill your old posts with hints as to your role so you can confirm role-claim later, this is especially useful for mod-confirmed Masons  )This post doesn't make him sound like a new player at all. And then: On December 14 2010 13:18 why wrote: I think we need some other people's thoughts on whether it is a good idea to reveal or not. I'm too inexperienced to know how this typically shakes out. Wants other people to help him decide on whether an idea is good or not using inexperience as an excuse. Reds usually like the opinion of the masses to help them confirm on things. +he has a lot of role fishing posts, however he does claim that he is in gryffindor: On December 16 2010 20:19 why wrote: By the way, we can confirm (at least the characters of) 3 more people. Cho Chang or Roger Davies (the one not in the Ravenclaw House) can confirm by saying they are in the Ravenclaw and having no one dispute them (there are 4 total Ravenclaws on the list, 3 are in the House). There are 5 Gryffindor members on the player list (Harry Potter, Hermione, Colin Creevey, Angelina Johnson, and Pavarti Patil). 3 are in the house. The remaining 2 can claim to be part of the House and, if no one disputes, are confirmed. Coincidentally, I am in Gryffindor. But someone needs to back him up on that.. On December 17 2010 10:05 why wrote: To be clear, I am not claiming to be one of Jcarl's group. I am claiming to have a character that is Gryffindor that is NOT in Jcarl's group (there are 5 total Gryffindor members, 3 in Jcarl's group). Again he is being very cautious here. Considering that he's a confirmed townie, I can't help but think why just managed to get by under the radar while that fiasco with DrH and useless roleclaiming happened. | ||
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One of you are claiming that one of your friends investigated someone else and he was doctor, and that friend said that that someone he investigated was not DrH, and that someone who knew his friend knew that DrH was not Poppy then told you kitaman. By comparison, we saw that Amber was not a veteran as he had claimed, and thus he had to have been protected by a medic. Further Kenpachi was modkilled, not killed by a mafia. So we don't know for sure if DrH is actually lying. DrH was also one of the instrumental voices (as AirBag) in lynching LSB, who turned out to be 100% red. This is MYLO. I am as suspicious of DrH (or any one of you) as anyone else. But I'm not going to vote to lynch anyone unless we get something 100% concrete. And that's especially considering how many LIES there were in this game - you might still be lying right now, and trying to start a bandwagon early in the day to seal the deal. | ||
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Then suddenly, the person that EVERYBODY was so sure about, that he was such a definite blue, turned out to be a master of disguise. I'm looking at you Annul. This is a truly crucial lynch for us. Are we 100% sure that the person leading the charge is clearly a blue? In this game, there has been clear instances where 1) targets of actions were switched 2) many, many confirmed blues lied (see: the veteran claim) 3) people fake roleclaimed Here again it feels like we are being led on by the tongue through the fingers of a godfather or some other sort of role that lets you hide your true identity. And I'm getting a similar vibe from the people leading the discussion to lynch DrH right now - why specifically. | ||
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On December 20 2010 14:20 kitaman27 wrote: *Facepalm Might I suggest that the mafia take this time to bus your scumbuddy? I'm really getting tired of responding to these type of posts. I'm hardly inclined to trust you when even confirmed blues... you know... lied? On December 14 2010 10:10 Amber[LighT] wrote: i took a hit last night. (1 of 2 lives) If a medic protected someone else it would be a very good idea for them to contact that person to start a mini-circle. On December 16 2010 11:09 annul wrote: Amber[LighT] the Moaning Myrtle is dead. + Show Spoiler + you are Moaning Myrtle you win with the town. | ||
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On December 20 2010 17:27 annul wrote: rofl no, i am not an eligible vote target d00d =P I was just saying that I was so sure of the lynch during that game, but it turned out that you were fooling all of us. And it's somehow feeling the same during this game, as we go for what could possibly be our last lynch. We're seeing the same scenario here. Under the guise of one(?) leader in a supposed town circle, the town is inevitably going towards a single target. Every time in TL mafia, I've been fooled too many times. This time there isn't even any debate whether we have a 100% definite target. Looking at the results, we've seen that DrH is visited. If it's a town, then you must know exactly who he is. What is he? Is he red? Can you explain to the town? | ||
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On December 20 2010 17:55 annul wrote: if a tracker-type ability like the one you describe exists in the game, the bus driver's ability will be told to the tracker ...Wait, if this is true, then it means someone definitely visited him - the tracker should've known if his detection was moved by the bus driver. Uggghhhhh At this point I'm even beginning to get suspicious of the claimed tracker - there's nothing the town will lose if DrH is red. Can you please confirm, whoever you are that visited him - what you checked on him? | ||
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orgolove
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On December 22 2010 07:00 deconduo wrote: 9. Coagulation 13. Barundar 14. Node 20. orgolove 21. ~OpZ~ 30. tube Are the maf under the following assumptions: Meapak is Ollivander Why is a Gryffindor student Cubed is Flamel Kitaman is Poppy Obviously these are big assumptions. The main one I have doubts about is Cube because it doesn't fit into his roleclaim. I find it amazing you're so quick to dismiss me. I'm not going to claim any names here, but the reason I failed with my role was 100% due to town not trusting me -_- given the limited amount of information I had to work with, I tried my best, but it turned out to be wasted. Anyway. I still think why is highly suspicious given his past posting. If we have any DT ability left, please check. | ||
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On December 23 2010 08:02 annul wrote: i do not think that is accurate what killed mafia was their refusal to fake claim abilities that could apply to multiple names ... Not sure how much you've read HP, but it's really difficult, given the limited number of blue roles, to concoct an ability that would apply to multiples of them. | ||
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